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PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 4:38pm On May 12, 2012
The important thing is that you have grabbed the morals of the story, respect ur host, be gr8ful for the opportunity to earn a living and most importantly lying is a sin...especially against ur host..
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 12:46am On May 12, 2012
You know my type abi....what an ignoramus.....

I have punctured all ur lies, but i know pride will not let you come down from your high horse..

I tot your silliness would take you to the extent of blaming piper alfa incident on 9JA delta youths. You have no shame, a major organisation fails and u blame it on community boys.....

I have pointed out to you how they have been failing from the beginning till now, and all u can do is come up with weak and lame reasons...

At first pinned the whole incident on the general communities of the 9ja delta, showing utter disregard for the people that host you...(i wonder how a human been can be so ungrateful)....i told you how a series of organisational failings lead to the accident, in spite of this obvious reality check you prefer to stay at the surface of issues....
You came up with after incident videos and reports written and doctored by shell management like the ignoramus u r.....then i pointed out the stupidity of this strategy...people had first hand knowledge of shells md insisting on pumping crude even when it was clear that there was a raging inferno and u r talking from reports...

Initially u said leaking pipes can be repaired while flowing, which is actually true, but not for major leaks...but ur narrow mindlessness refused to let u see this fact...

I now pointed out to u that shell now shuts down pipelines to repair such leaks and u reversed yourself after saying that pipelines can be repaired during such major leaks....see how u twist truth just to paint a people whos resources have improved ur standard of living...if such leaks can be repaired while flowing crude why is shell now shuting down crude flow to repair the lines.....abi oil no important again...

You dont even know that the shell fire truck, was supposed to be on site to spray foam over the crude, you dont even know that Shell supplies spares for the sealing works. Yet u choose to lie to the open world...u r very wicked..an angel if darkness....to be cast into the pit of the deepest lakes of fire....'

You said shell does not provide supervision for major or minor contractors, this shows how lame u r...you dont even know the number of contract holders to number of contracts shell should be maintaining is grossly inadequate......you another one from the ungrateful parts of this country....shame on you.

If not for people like leading this country, the IOC should be working for the 9ja families who who the land, the communities would be the ones determining how employment and contracts should be awarded, this is resource control, not the FG locating decision making units in lagos, what those freebie loving rascals fight for free fuel..
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 11:02pm On May 11, 2012
Maranzano: The clamour for the creation of Ministry of Northern affairs by Aregbesola is a clear indication that his interest is in revenue sharing instead of revenue generation.Aregbe does not need a ministry for each clan in Osun before he delivers the dividends of democracy to them. Lack of conscious efforts by past leadership in the north to change their orientation towards western education is responsible for their seemingly backward status today. The high level of illiteracy emboldens the priviledged leaders to corner the commonwealth of the region to themselves and pacify the impverished Almajiris and Talakawas with their token of "benevolence" What the North needs now is a change in orientation to liberate the minds of many. The North has always spoken through one of her most eloquent;Dan Masanin Kano in matters like this, i dont know why it has to be Aregbe from the West that will solicit for this on their behalf.
Aregbesola and maggots like alj harem are of this exact reasoning....no single thoughts for wealth generation...parasites on the loose!
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 10:59pm On May 11, 2012
alj harem: chai !!!!!

See lie, anyway what are you today. Ijaw now ? grin grin grin grin

As for me, ,,,,,, I have told you where I am from, whether you chose to believe na your wahala
Yes I believe you are from everywhere....
I think you better take the extremely wonderful advise offered below

Areosapien: [size=15pt]I'd advise you to stay off the internet, since you make a foool of yourself with each post. Stick to manufacturing those beggars and "boko harem cadets" you're all suited for[/size].
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 10:37pm On May 11, 2012
alj harem: cool cool cool cool Thanks brother, I am humbled cool o bu ihe oma smiley

Actually he did once can't find it now, probably deleted/edited
I did once, can you swear on your life with this statement?
The very first thread I posted on this site had to do with denial of opportunities of the 9Ja deltans of opportunities....
I think your behaviour is a result of smoking pawpaw leaves...take it easy sha
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 10:34pm On May 11, 2012
One_Naira: you are misreading me. Im Talking about you

Dalover have always maintained ss as his origin. He's never changed his origin like you've done.
He's never spoken igbo before. Na your lies again.

Im laughing at you, not him. Dont confuse that. You've called every ss you've disagreed with including those known in rea life igbo. Whose nicknamed chameleon on this forum? No be you again.
Other people are also seeing...
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 10:32pm On May 11, 2012
alj harem: Dalover Igbo today, isoko tomorrow, ijaw now, Ogoni 2 weeks time

He can only speak Igbo langauge

LOL grin grin grin grin grin grin Na real welcome grin grin grin grin LOL grin grin grin grin

One Naira my friend, smiley How was your day ? smiley
See someone who claims different tribes here and there trying to pass that attribute to me... if you can ever show me where I claimed anything other than Isoko, then I promise to stop viewing you as a loony boffun....
I am not Igbo, but I will choose Igbo any day day over Yoruba because they keep it real, with yoruba apart from the fact that you never know what to expect.. your back is never secure...you can be betrayed at anytime....An igbo man says he is with you or not and keeps to it...
Surely the Igbos have their vices like all others, but the fact that the average yoruba man looks down on other and is decietfull makes thing very bad....


For instance the Yoruba will keep shouting true federalism all over the place, while the Igbos keep quiet about it, when it came to time to actually support it at the constitutional conference, people like Clark got the shock of their lifes, as the reps from SW openly sided with the North against true federalism....a classic case of denial, deceptive and back stabbing..
PoliticsRe: Osun Kicks Off N300m Hydro-power Project. by DaLover(m): 10:16pm On May 11, 2012
alj harem: Would you shut up, What free oil ?

Did you buy the oil for Osun or did you hand it over to them ?

Better get you head screwed on and stop this stu,pid free oil chant you are going about.
Sorry, but where is the 300m coming from?
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 9:29pm On May 11, 2012
alj harem: everyday Igbo Vs Yoruba.

Same discussions different days
You forgot to add 9Ja Delta vs Yoruba
PoliticsRe: Osun Kicks Off N300m Hydro-power Project. by DaLover(m): 9:28pm On May 11, 2012
alj harem: Haba Gbawe

15 kilowatts for 300 million naira shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked WOW !!!! That is day light robbery and I expect you to condemn Aregbe for that.

There is absolutely no justification for that !
Y now? there is free oil money to handle all expenses
PoliticsRe: Obasanjo, Tinubu can lead Yoruba –Bishop Adebiyi by DaLover(m): 9:25pm On May 11, 2012
OBJ is already on record as one of the ugliest person to ever lead a set of people since the beginning of Time, combining this with Tinubu is asking for mega watts of disaster!!!
PoliticsRe: Aregbesola Calls For Ministry Of Northern Affairs. by DaLover(m): 9:19pm On May 11, 2012
shymmex please come and take some sweets, don't mind them eh, ndo...lol
PoliticsRe: JTF Arrests Boko Haram Sect Leader Suleiman Mohammed In Kano by DaLover(m): 8:50pm On May 11, 2012
Omo boyz r shocked ni...
C dem rushing to clear the yoruba race...lol...even before being accused..
How anybody can even think that one man and is family as it is, can represent a race baffles me.
PoliticsRe: Justice Ayo Salami Reinstated As President Of Court Of Appeal? by DaLover(m): 6:36pm On May 11, 2012
jp philips: are you sure lagos state has nothing to show for ACN presence there over the years? or you just woke up from a quick self-service!ng session?
Akwa Ibom has something to show for PDP...so what r u talking about...does one individual make a party great?
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 6:34pm On May 11, 2012
You shot the video yourself, during the incident or after?
The report your read, did you prepare it yourself too?

What argument am I running away from?
The piper alfa incident was a BOP failurehuh? You are just a he goat, a quick search of piper alfa on google and you can see many reports there
See the quote from one of them,

Later in the evening during the next work shift, the primary condensate pump failed. None of those present were aware that a vital part of the machine had been removed and decided to start the backup pump. Gas products escaped from the hole left by the valve.
http://www.fabig.com/Accidents/Piper+Alpha.htm

I am sure if you were in the UK, you would quickly accuse a community guy from aberdeen for forgetting this valve....You are so sick, its unimmaginable how someone benefitting from the kindness of people who have allowed you to exploit them for so long, probably generated the wealth that paid your fees would turn around and pour scorn on these people, their resources ensured that you paid for PMS at a reduced price...and you dared open you smelling mouth to insult them...you will be paid back in kind for such wickedness, thrust me...

Call us chimps for all I care, its an artitude we have come to expect from you and your kind....unfortunately you and your people who are far above chimps are still living in this same under developed country, surviving by the crude which you want to contuinue enjoying freely...even writing article on how best to enjoy the crude

See how you are f00ling yourself, you dont even know that for non EPIC contracts, SPDC provides, standby fire fighting resources, material spares, site superviors and a host of others....you just come here to blab...

The only thing we did wrong to you is to provide you with your source of livelihood, pay your education...because, I dont see how you would wake up in the morning and start insulting someone from kafanchan, if the guy doesnt have anything to do with an ldiot like you.
PoliticsRe: Abuja City Gate Being Removed(pictures) by DaLover(m): 6:09pm On May 11, 2012
Ilaje44: [size=13pt]If the FED would draw up development roadmaps and truly invest a little of the energy and money wasted on Abuja and take active role in the development of the largest cities in all the Geopol-Zones of Nigeria, it would go a long way in alleviating/adressing:
1. Poverty
2. Infrastructural deficit
3. etc...

The FED is getting just too much of Nigeria's revenue! The federal Government share of the national cake is over proportionally high.
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Bro, the states should be the ones driving this, what you souold be asking for is resource control!!
PoliticsRe: Abuja City Gate Being Removed(pictures) by DaLover(m): 6:08pm On May 11, 2012
[size=20pt]Abuja people are more intelligent than the rest of the country, see what they are achieving!!!!!!!! [/size]
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 9:21am On May 11, 2012
@jp phillips,
So you read a report and watched a video produced by SPDC, and you expect to know the truth....lol, what a pity......you obviously lack what it takes to engage in constructive discussion......

Apparently you have some affiliation with SPDC, so do I, and I have good enuf experiences to know when cover ups are perpetuated...I believe you either know this or deliberately sdt out to misinform the public here.....

After interacting with people who were at the emergency response session conducter at the time if the incident, i am better informed....
At first you blurted out that a community man put a gen set inside crude oil causing the explosion, now the truth is coming out...passing wrong information out to the public because u want to put people down is just plain evil.....

Making the public believe that the reason for the explosion was community involvement, as if several incidents have not occurred were 9delta community was not involved... Piper alfa, the resent underwater spill at gulf of mexico were cuused by 9ja delta boys abi?

The questions about whos fault it is for the several ruptures on pipelines is a deep rooted subject.....if the 9ja delta militants fighting for more stake are trying to stop you from producing their oil and you insist.....then i guess who to blame depends on what line of the divide you are... The oppressor or the exploited..

I know all the five staffs who were in the pipelines mtce team, and i can assure you that it is not about having 39 contractors, but about have the appropriate number of staff to manage the contracts, and perform the contract site supervision....if this are not adequate, as was the case then, then SPDC is liable and culpable.......

You insist that due to FG demand for oil, the oil must be produced at all cost, how come after the incident, shell had changed this philosophy? For instance, the topic of this thread, shutdown of crude supply to bonny terminal? shut down of bonga recently, now any spill that occurs, and the production is shutdown....but back then the case was different...it was much worse....regard for the environment was of little consequence....

You have failed to admit the role continuous pumping of crude to the location caused in the incident, as in the piper alfa situation in the north sea....the only difference is that while the british government and regulatory agencies took action against the company for neglect.....in nigeria, the blame is being passed to community boys.....
What a big shame
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 11:20pm On May 10, 2012
jp philips: failed in its responsibility to give a clamping job to locals, yet you have typed hundred pages clamoring for empowerment, helloooo!!!!! have you gone to sleep like your people?

failed in his responsibilities by giving a job to a local that hired a nonentity that thinks a pool of crude is a swimming pool?

even if the SPDC safety officer didn't stop the job, is it not commonsensical for a human being to mere physically distinguish between crude oil and palm wine?

lets be clear,the pipeline did not rupture on its own but was vandalized by kpo fire boys so don't even go there.

tell me what SPDC could have done better for the local that made that mess?

I told you not to go there but you insisted, like Ahj Harem above, you are delving into an issue...
Do you know that several SPDC staff had their jobs terminated because of complicity in the issue, these are the educated people from outside the 9ja delta who you feel can do no wrong?

The Iriama issue is a sour issue that shows how a company can treat its immediate environment and its people with levity and disregard...

I wrote at length about the root causes of the 9ja delta struggles, so if there was vandalization on the pipelines, while you attribute it to lazy youths, i would attribute it to years of struggle that eventually lead to militancy and now crude ways of resource control..

Without going into so much details let state some key indisputable events that found several SPDC personel culpable in the iriama issue
1- Several Pipeline ruptures at the time (designed to halt oil production)
2- The SPDC and of course FG insisted on crude oil flow, and hence quickly restoring all pipeline ruptures asap (The free oil must flow)
3- The pipelines mtce team was overwhelmed, instead of 1 of 2 leaks a month or two, they were handling leaks every other week.
4- SPDC management refused to respond by increasing resources to meet this new challenges ( i.e personnel, materials hole sealants etc)
5- The contracting team withe the knowledge of SPDC personnel started to use chunks of wood as plugs before placing the metal clamps on the pipeline

On that very period,
1- Information got to shell as usual about another leak at iriama
2- contractor mobilized to site, shell count not provide adequate fire protection truck and fire fighting personnel as required for such jobs, A fire truck was dispatched to site with just one fireman, no foam spray. The fire truck could not progress close enough to the exact location, so he had to park at some distance, The lone fire man could not carry his heavy equipment to the site, even if he did, it required at least two people to operate it.
3- At the site , they discovered that the leak was from a previous clamping, after removing the metal clamp, in a bid to remove the wooden peg, oil started gushing from the pipeline, as high as some feet into the air
4- normally for such operations, the flow station pumping oil into this line should be such down to depressurize the pipeline, but greed did not allow for that.
5- a pool of crude was forming quickly, as usually done in such cased, a retaining bond wall was built by the contractor,
6- All appeal to get SPDC management to stop flow stations from pumping crude into the pipelines fell on deaf ears, as they insisted that repairs could be quickly effected in such conditions,
7- Meanwhile the flowing crude was getting out of hand and the bond walls could no longer contain the spilled crude, a holes were dug to contain the excess fluid.
8- A diesel pump which is usually used in such situations was brought by contractor to site, placed at a distance and a hose was now being used to pump the fluid into the holes, all these happened in a space of a few days and SPDC management still refused to shut the flow stations down.
9- eventually the whole atmosphere became supercharged with hydrocarbon and the heat from the long running disel gen flashed and the rest is history..abi
10- Do you know that even after the explosion and reports of death, SPDC management STILL refused to stop pumping crude into the pipelinehuh?///


Stop going around passing information that a community boy ignorantly started the fire...its very callous of you.
PoliticsRe: Justice Ayo Salami Reinstated As President Of Court Of Appeal? by DaLover(m): 10:24pm On May 10, 2012
dayokanu: If the AD had nothing to show, why were people soo eager to vote them back in the form of ACN?
You are asking me why Yoruba people went back to a Yoruba party after the Yoruba president left...hmm...this seems like a tough one, I would have to conduct a detailed research a come back to you on this one..
PoliticsRe: Justice Ayo Salami Reinstated As President Of Court Of Appeal? by DaLover(m): 6:41pm On May 10, 2012
greateros: re-instated after PDP don finish their mago-mago and wuru-wuru! you can never beat PDP to the game! undecided undecided
All those that keep calling pdp as if there is a better party, a the partiez are the same jo...ACN in the form of AD ruled the SW for 4yearz with absolutely nothing to show......all the parties are the same....only that ACN and CPC are regional parties
PoliticsRe: Justice Ayo Salami Reinstated As President Of Court Of Appeal? by DaLover(m): 6:38pm On May 10, 2012
ziccoit: Only God knows how many times GEJ has acted before thinking? Who are the Mr GEJ thinking-tanks? Is he the one who bypasses all the hugely renumerated advisers and co? Somebody needs to tell me what he has done without later come to face Nigerians with tones of regrets. He has retraced his steps many times that I have lost count. How do we move forward when the government is occilating about a point like a pendulum? Nigeria is a goner. I am not sorry.
Guy do you even bother to study the process at all? I really don't know what u might have been expecting but tbe president has to follow certain processes and procedures....
The man was relieved of his job by his peers, and GEJ appointed someone to act while the issue was being resolved, its really to be a buffun at times....if it was Obj, do u think salami woukd still be walking the streets?
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 3:36pm On May 10, 2012
jp philips: should we clap for them for living in 17th century umbrage in the 21st century?
You may clap if you wish

jp philips: Amongst all the places i have been to in Nigeria, Niger delta is one place that i can bet my life savings that no individual or group has the monopoly of violence. every group is strong in their own way and they respect their supremacy.

but your quote is a diversion from what i am talking about when i highlighted the FTO, the Excos you talk about rotate amongst the strong groups no doubt but the average creek brought up belongs to same groups one way or the other, so the rotation amongst excos is still a party for all, but that is not my argument.

i am saying that i expect that the proceeds from the FTO could have made a reasonable impact on the well being of the community considering the opportunity they have.
yes no group or individual has monopoly of violence, that that is why community excos are always fighting each other, when they finnaly settle, they now resolve to do it on turn by turn basic....the point you missed here is that the people the IOCs now negotiate with, and spend money on are now thugs who definitely have nothing to offer, those who would have seen the bigger picture, those who have collected thoughts are usually unwilling to go into the squabbles are systematically divorced from the process, remember that this system is induced by the government and IOCs years of devide and rule techniques..
The answer is resource control....the land owners mush have a say in the exploitation of their wealth...there is no other solotion

jp philips: please re read by first post above to see that the structures the IOC's are operating now has grown beyond the use of "muscle men" to grass rooted, individuals participation.
i gave you a break down of "some" elements of the SPDC FTO.

i was in one community in brass creek still an SPDC WEST controlled region, the contractor hired community labor and was paying them on site as they work, at a point the contractor was forced to demobilize his active staff, sent them on diff projects while the community boys continued with the job.

i realized that the decision was borne out of the fact that those boys over the years due to their "active participation in similar operations have mastered the art.

was there no muscle men? did the traditional rulers not collect their FTO lump sums? but the serious guys got to work, learnt the art and broke all umbrages of unemployment in their life, that is what i am talking about.

the empowerment has to be a gradual process, they are looking for multi billion dollar contracts but that of few millions they cant deliver,

i tell you what; oil and gas operations reserves some level of professionalism and competence, it is not what you leave for any "bingo" to come fiddle with in the name of empowerment.

take your time and read the review of "Iriama incident" to get a wind of what i am talking about.

"a local contractor in charge of leak repairs was clamping a life line that ruptured without even isolating the affected area, when the pool of crude reached a disturbing height, the m@r@n brought in a discharge pump and buried it in the pool in a bid to to discharge the crude, the next thing was "boom" and 7 families lost their bread winners now how cool does that sound? imagine the cavalier

before you talk about empowerment, are they prepared for it? have they positioned themselves strategically to benefit from the opportunities that comes with it? have they realized the need for individual emancipation before the IOC's and Govt at large can come to help?

the answers to these questions are the reasons why total empowerment remains a mirage.


chibuike amaechi pays bursary to all rivers state indigenes in their various tertiary institutions, does it guarantee more rivers graduates from UST,Uniport and other institutions? that is precisely my point

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hello,
I continue to witness first hand the community sustainable initiatives being executed by the oil companies, as a worker in here, and I can tell you that its a load of theoretical bull, the negatives you are proclaiming are now as a direct result of the years of oil company and government manipulation and its not as black and white as you are trying to make it seam. Ask if black people in America are naturally lazy or something in the system and history causes them to behave the way they are...

People of niger delta region are excelling all over the world and Nigeria, and they are by no means lazy, they need to be give the opportunities,

imagine if the federal government was to go to your so call villages in Enugu and Anambra,take over they farms and tell them to look for other means of livelihood, that food is now a security issue....then promise to pay them what ever figure it deems fit...the FG operates and runs the farms, then Hausas, using their control of the FG apparatus, monopolize the juicy activities revolving around the farms....while your people stand aside and watch, probably employed as low level people cleaners, driver etc, for the educated ones amongst you, those that protest this situation are systematically frustrated, many seek opportunities elsewhere, those that stay become docile and cooperate with their overlords, some will be bought over, etc etc etc....after 30 years how do you think villages in Enugu and Anambra would be behaving?


I laugh when I see your take on the Iriama issue, i would implore you not to say this story again, off all the failings that lead to that explosion and subsequent ravaging fire. It pains me you decide to put the blame on the poor youth, when SPDC as a company failed in it responsibilities.....
I dont want to go into those details now, but you should know what I am talking about
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints Here by DaLover(m): 6:14am On May 10, 2012
OAM4J: Sorry, Its visible now. The anti spam bot mistook it for spam.
Thanks, but warn spambot not to try me again ooo...lol
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints Here by DaLover(m): 11:17pm On May 09, 2012
@mods, please my last post on the thread "SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings" is hidden for unknown reasons, please kindly help un-hide. Thanks
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 12:56pm On May 09, 2012
Moderator,
Please my last post before this was hidden, what did i do wronghuh
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 11:18pm On May 08, 2012
jp phillips, r there any set of people that are born Lazy?

I quite agree with the structure you illustrated, though you wrong termed it empowerment, but this is not the empowerment I was refering too...

30 or 40 old years ago when the FG decided to seize the resources of the 9ja deltans and exploit the oil via the major ethnic groups and forginers, various means were devices to suppress the populace..these included physical force and divide and rule tactics through bribary of the traditional rulers and those who could show that they commanded some sort of powers in the communities...any attempts by the general community to rise against their corrupt leaders and traditional ruler was meet with brutal force by the state on the side of the corrupt traditional rulers and leaders...this is exactly what brought about the death of Saro wiwa...the saro wiwa story reverberated around the world because he was a popular figure....but thrust me this same situation played itself all over the 9ja delta, a disenfranchised people were that were over a 30 year period cowed into submission.....the artitude you explained here is the kind of behaviour that came about as a result of the behaviour by companies like shell a co, over a long period of time....

After the death of Saro Wiwa and the international comdemnation that followed, shell tried to make a show of sustainable community development, this is what gave rise to the FTO, and other support which shell pays to the communities directly or indirectly through the contractors...

Obviuosly given the culture that was built up over the years, a group of powerful thugs in the communities set up excos and rotate membership amongst themselves to collect monies from the IOCs, the companies are quite ok with this because it keeps the communities out of their business, and when approached on the wrongness of the strategy...they, like you have just done will point to the amount of money paid to communities...


But what is my own solution...it is as simple as teaching the man to catch fish, rather than giving him fish every day.....The way the system is run now, the personnel from the conmmuniies are treated as if they do not have a stake in the issue, the actual transaction take place between the oil companies and the muscle men (those who can be called upon to sqush any uprisings).
Now, the people are tired of waiting for the right things to be done, the are taking their destinies into their own hands, they are already used to taking the crude and selling or refining, even if we could get the poorly paid army officers to stop them, the possibility of willful ssabotage is very high...

What I feel needs to be done, is to find a way of stoping the cash payments to thugs while gradually involving communities in the ownership and operations of these oil companies,,, it sounds funny when you say people are willing to risk their lives to to tap into flow lines or pipelines, transport the crue, refine it in a crude manner, and sell it but these same people are not willing to settle down and own legal oil companies... What I have proposed it not going to be easy to achieve, but there are usually no easy solutions to difficult problems, the existing culture was set over a 30year period and will take time to change, but we need to start in the right step, and that is assuring the people that they have a direct stake in the oil producing business
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 2:15pm On May 08, 2012
jp philips: i care less about the boys and what they do with Army, my greatest concern is the environment, gosh!!
the creeks are a monumental mess, u can hardly breathe in the creek these days.
If you care so mush about the environment then lets legalize local participation in the business, because unfortunately you cannot reason environmental issues with those poverty stricken people.
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 2:11pm On May 08, 2012
jp philips: the NCTL pipeline is a 30", 46km pipeline spanning from Nembe to Adamakiri passing through Awoba and cawthorne channel, the reason i mentioned these places is to remind you that the said pipeline is an SPDC (east) major trunk line and yes it was neatly buried not just underground but underwater as well.

it is one of the multi million dollar projects SPDC awarded to Eni group (SAIPEM) and completed in 2010.

the company in question is qualified to give you the best in projects of that magnitude, nevertheless, oil theft aka bunkery has graduated to a height where effective policing is the only cure,
the armed forces themselves are compromised so who exactly will do the policing? civil defense?

"kpo fire" is not a hidden activity because of its characteristic thick smoke that can be seen beyond thousands of miles radius, these creeks are been patrolled by joint task force of army, police and navy.on daily basis.

imagine where the temperature of a refinery is blazing at several spots within a very short radius,how hidden can that be in the middle of the night?

recently i heard that the boys that are doing the pipeline cracking are contract staffs normally pushed out when the construction coy could not maintain them out of projects with security apparatchik comprising of ex and active militants and sea pirates.

if you see these bunkery points, you will have no doubt that these guys are real professionals, can you seriously break a life line of 60bar pressure safely without knowledge of pipeline operations?

i was happy when they started the business truth be told, the hole wo wo wo boys were no longer in the river cos they are busy making money, even the sea pirates that harass sea travelers disappeared, the military were not left out, i wish they will org anise themselves to reduce the environmental impact cos i foresee a serious epidemic in the nearest future.

Abuja can cry for all i care
If the communities were empowered to run these facilities and pay taxes to Government like every other buziness, will they allow people vandalise and steal their sources of livelihood easily...would it be easy to compromise army and JTF to steal your own crude, or would it be easy for outsiders from the comunity to compromise JTF to steals from pipelines??


Guy the only way forward is resource control...you can't run away from it...
by the way what solutions do you propose.
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 2:00pm On May 08, 2012
otokx: bros lets tell ourselves the truth, our guys in the villages, what do they do with the cash they get from bunkering? is not to finish on ashy and palmy? do they use the money to build roads or health centres or schools? is not to buy more guns and terrorize the others? Do their activities not end up destroying the environment? we should look inwards and stop talking theory, the few niger deltas that control companies, is it not to buy house in Abuja, Lagos and London? Do they give anything back to the community where they come from?
Are we talking solutions or elaborating the problems?
All the reasons you gave above are simply because you and others like you have not allowed and still do not want the people to work, I don't understand your problem here....
so if the few 9ja delta people opportune to work with oil companies siphon the money they generate...then you deny all the legitimate land owners opportunity to produce their natural resources.

So if some people finish money on palmy and ashy...then you deny all the legitimate land owners opportunity to produce their natural resources.


You are very funny
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 3:43pm On May 07, 2012
jp philips: i wish it is as easy as you think, bunkery has taken a new dimension in the delta, it has graduated to "kpo fire" where the crude is stolen and locally refined in the creeks and products sold at the water fronts.
in the SE and SS now, you can hardly see small refueling stations buying from importers cum major marketers.

the reason why that menace is thriving is because the military are compromised.
the boys pay as much as 40million naira to both Navy and army mondays and tuesdays every week, how do you think those sector 130 guys became so wealthy? military pension?

that is the problem, the boys settle, army is happy,Navy is smiling shell is wailing.

there is no excuse for criminality, unemployment the least, if the law enforcement agents have sincerity of purpose. i can remember in DEC last year when army got greedy and decided to be collecting 40million a week alone and the boys refused, Army nearly finished them off.

all the refineries were temporarily shut down for 3weeks before they reached a compromise.
brother it is the insincerity of purpose of the armed forces that is the problem
If the land owners are producing the crude, then they would pay taxes and everybody is happy, army is wailing..lol
PoliticsRe: SHELL Declares Force Majeure On Bonny Light Loadings by DaLover(m): 1:46pm On May 07, 2012
otokx: The level of theft from oil pipelines is at an all time high making many overnight millionaires and it appears there is a complicity of security forces and villagers in that area. Federal Government as usual has simply abandoned its responsibility.
9ja deltan are unwilling to wait again ooo...
Any attempt to stop it with addressing the economic situation will end in disaster...we urgently need to involve the people in the processing of their own resources...if we set a time line of 5 years to achieve this, then we can conduct extensive trainings required to make the people participate in the running and operations of the oil industry..

ldiots and lazy f00ls who do not want the land owners to have anything to do with their own oil will always kick against this, some even go to the extent of interpreting this demand as asking for the breaking of the nation, nobody asked to break the nation when their region was earning 50% from resource control in the 50s and 60s, the myopic mugus have forgotten all of a sudden...well if that what you want...feel free to initiate it yourselves...rouges

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