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Euouae:
Hello, he never did, just made references to them. And come to think of it really in actual sense. They are more on track than the Business centers we have today

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Euouae:
By who?

Like your Bible has left you?

Who knows

First of all are Christians worshipping the Pope? Isn't he human like everyone else

I would have taken freeze more seriously if he wasn't always trying to promote the Catholic church

Number 1 freeze attacks pastors

He is paid to do so

hopefulLandlord:
hmmmmm okay

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hopefulLandlord:
Anyways I see our posts has had the desired effect and I'm not interested in going further on this anymore. Take care

How is it yours? the Op made it clear he's no Atheist

Well I'm used to your attitude already

I think it's impossible to be on nairaland and not be insulted by Christians whether your a Christian, Muslim, Atheist whether Catholic or Jehovah's witness

It's impossible I've had my fair share

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AnonyNymous:
I appreciate you finally acknowledging the error I complained about, and which topic are you asking about?

The one where you typed unnatural

AnonyNymous:
For the record, I'm not an atheist.

Secondly, you still haven't answered if the behavior displayed by Christians towards me was proper or not. Or are you refusing to condemn them because they're 'one of your own'?

Lastly, I have repeated myself over and over again. The Jesus I read about in the bible was an extreme pacifist. At the very worst, if an insult offends you, the best you can do is to report it. Instead of descending to the level of name calling that isn't expected of those who follow a man that asked his followers to turn the other cheek when slapped.

Okay I have learnt

(To be honest I haven't seen that topic you keep talking about)

hopefulLandlord:
Like I said, its reductionism to say someone who "Likes" Jesus should become a Christian because he likes him. There are several people I like but I can't worship them

I'm used to this your nature already let's forget the worship part

If Jesus is wonderful you'll act like him

Even people who read storybook try to emulate a character they like

Lenin read Communist manifesto he loved it he tried to put the 10 plancks into practice (he succeeded)

Some Muslims read Qur'an they don't worship Mohammed yes but they do exactly what he commanded

People watch television they try to be their favorite character

One way or another the human mind can't separate fiction from non fiction

If you believe Jesus is a great guy you would believe God exist otherwise he was just another stupid crazy religious theist preaching about an invisible sky daddy

AnonyNymous:
Are you even reading my posts at all, or are you just quoting and replying?

I said "define unnatural" and I was met with series of insults and crude remarks. Is that Christian?

I modified it I'm not referring to just you are you the only Atheist on nairaland

AnonyNymous:
You're going off topic here. I'm not talking about your beliefs, I'm talking about the COMPOSURE of people who claim to be Christians. Simply put, a Christian isn't expected to be making crude remarks and insults. Besides, I did NO provocative action to warrant such, I LITERALLY said "Define unnatural".

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For the umpteenth time, it isn't expected of a Christian to hurl nasty, vile words at people who don't share their beliefs. Besides, all I did was ask a question so I could enter a rational debate.

Jesus took a whip and fought people in the temple of God

For the umpteenth time how are Christians supposed to behave on nairaland we should say ohhhh "Nice insult on God more grease to your elbow" or... we should simply keep quiet

which is far worse

Tell me how are Christians supposed to behave?

And I'm not referring to just you

AnonyNymous:
Because I think some of his statements were nonsense . For one, I don't believe in some magical father in heaven that'll give me handouts. I'm also not an extreme pacifist like he was, though I try to keep my calm as much as I can and avoid conflict at all costs. Personality wise though, he was a cool person. But all that (and much more) aside, the people who claim to be his FOLLOWERS behave absolutely nothing like him.

P.S, there's no "twisting" in the rest of the post. I wrote it in plainly worded English.

And how are the followers supposed to behave?

Making nonsense statements? (To you perhaps)

Believe in magical father in heaven?

I think you got it all wrong the followers are behaving exactly how they should behave especially when people like you attack their magical father

franky317:
Actually thats what being Christian is... but it also means no Christian exists

This is precisely what I'm complaining about

you just felt like quoting me for quoting sake?

What did Jesus Believe in...edited by anonymous

Battling hypocrisy
Believe in God
Love your neighbor
Pure pacifism
Believe in Heaven
Believe in repentance

You believe Jesus is a great guy why don't you believe the things he believed

That's like a thief saying he loves the law but he wants to keep on stealing

cc hopefullandlord

hopefulLandlord:
that I believe my friend's grandfather, Arthur, was a wonderful man doesn't mean I should become "Athurthian"

Being a Christian is all about emulating Jesus Christ

You believe your friend's grand father was a wonderful man won't you make him your role model and try your best to be like him?

AnonyNymous:
Why did you ignore the rest of the post?

Also, are you saying you consider the "turn the other cheek" statement to be extremely stupid? Can you still call yourself a Christian if you find one of Christ's statements extremely stupid?

I'm asking that as Christians, you compose yourselves in a "Christ-like" manner instead of being a hypocrite- claiming to be something, and advocating for it, but not acting like it. It requires extreme patience to be able to respond to someone who's hostile to you calmly, and still articulate your points without making disgusting statements. Do you think my statement 'define unnatural' warranted all the horrid responses I got? Especially from Christians? Even Jesus supposedly 'healed' the ear of one of the soldiers who wanted to kill him.

Because the rest of the post is just twisting and twisting it's obvious you want to convince yourself that Christians are at fault everywhere it's not new for an atheist

If you believe Jesus Christ was such a wonderful guy why aren't you a Christian?

AnonyNymous:
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Then, like I said, Christianity is about extreme pacifism. The founder himself said to turn your other cheek when slapped!! You're the same people that scream "by their fruits ye shall know them"!!! Is it so hard to maintain your composure and prove yourselves instead of getting so petty and nasty?? Show the character that's supposed to define you as a Christian

Christianity is not about extreme pacifism which is nothing more than extreme stupidity if every Christian was a pacifist Christianity would not exist today everyone would be Muslims which is the case on nairaland,

I'm still asking

How do you want Christians to show love on nairaland?

drey076:
How is this a news?
Mtcheew
Nairaland and rubbish like 5&6
In short, thunder will strike the moderator that brought this to front page.

uhm lightening strikes not thunder

AnonyNymous:
Because the Pharisees were pretending to believe in the same thing as him, but their behavior proved otherwise. The character Jesus in the Bible stood against hypocrisy- the same thing I'm talking about here. Even so, did he go out of his way to call them all sorts of disgusting names? Did he for once involve their families in the discussion? Did he not attempt to correct people in love? What 'love' have you Christians on Nairaland shown to your fellow man? To me, it seems like you kind of enjoy the thought of people who didn't listen to you ending up in an eternal fire.

And why would you want to see a vow of them swearing allegiance to Allah when they don't believe in him?

First: Jesus called them names

Second: I rarely [never] see Christians insulting peoples families so I don't understand that part

Third: What do you mean by showing what what exactly you tell me, when every post promoting Christianity is usually attacked and instantly derailed, you'll have to explain your love idea to me

Fourth: They should take the vow to prove they don't believe in him atleast have a go at the Muslims once in a while afterall Islam is what affects Nigeria today but they don't why, afraid to take a vow? Somehow the pastors scamming people seems more interesting than the terrorist doing the killings

Jesus Christ stood up against the Pharisees and Sadducees of his day those propagating lies and he wasn't having a friendly chat with them

Op I have never seen a breed of atheists more hypocritical than the ones on nairaland

One fact: They believe Allah is a myth but yet I don't see the Islamic vow on their profiles

blackpanda:
Isnt it interesting that in a period of recession the govt was still able to give bailout funds to all states that needed it, regardless of political party or ethicity?? How about completion of abuja rail, rice revolution, massive investments in agric, lagos ibadan road construction, 2nd niger bridge, east west road and a whole lot of others

Anyone would have thought the oil would have been enough to do all that clearly it's not, moreso who are you leaving the debts for

MrMystrO:
Who cares about America? but our constitution was modeled after theirs?? And our economic systems after theirs too?? You have to care about America whether you like it or Not.

Anyway my point is i don't think you're very well read on debt analysis and management and so your question is sounding like that of a Novice in that area. Do more research on it first and maybe then you'll start asking the right Questions then. Have a great day.

I've made my point clear your not from America I'm not from America I don't know what goes on their what I know is what I watch on TV which is highly unreliable

Novice in that area? Asking the right questions? let's keep borrowing more then

MrMystrO:
How. much is America's debt? Seems you don't really know much about the nature of National debt and how it works. Check America's debt and get back to me.

Again with the international argument who cares about America? Am I from America I'm asking a question relating to Nigeria it's none what happens in America

AlwaysUltraPad:
how old are you and who was your history teacher?

okay educate me show me a place a link that says he was shot

The way I learnt it was that his body was found under a tree looking normal except he was dead

blackpanda:
Debt is not necessarily a bad thing
Its not about paying debt. Its about applying the loan judiciously

how have we been applying the billions?

I read this, our national debt is $57.39 billion the government isn't too concerned about paying it up all everyone is thinking about is the present it's always the present no one is concerned about the huge debt we are piling for the unborn generation

When will we pay our debts in Nigeria

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/02/nigerias-total-debt-profile-57-39bn-dmo-boss/

Op by religious countries I hope you included Atheism as a religion?

kevoh:
You don come again...Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland are among the least religious countries in the world compare them with Nigeria that is very religious. Now use your church mind and tell among the four countries which is very morally corrupt? One among the countries even has almost empty prisons, which one is it? The very religious or least religious one?

They have few churches how are they least religious?

kyjuan99:
i am referring to the overall head of the coup
nzeogwu was brought in late
babaginda plotted against buhari yet it was dongoyaro and abacha that read the speech
orkar was brought in late but he was the one who read the speech
Nzeogwu like all the officers who partook in that coup were detribalised officers

As far as I know it was ifeajuna who died trying to prevent the Biafra war

kyjuan99:
bro believe me ifeajuna killed balewa
ppl call this coup nzeogwu's coup but even the army personnel then knew ifeajuna was the brains of the coup
ifeajuna killed balewa,ran to the east and then went to ghana

Is this your way of trying to justify the burial of Nzeogwu by Gowon?

Nzeogwu never denied leading the coup he gave a full boast you can watch the video on YouTube

kyjuan99:
ifeajuna killed balewa when he saw the coup failing
dunno wia u got d no bullet wound part

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abubakar_Tafawa_Balewa

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