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budaatum:
It's not plagiarism. He quoted source in the first post!

DeSepiero:
Okay
So who in your story did not think something was true but went ahead to believe in it?

DeSepiero:
Your story doesn't prove who was correct or wrong. I recall that a deluded fellow is the one who sticks to his beliefs even in the face of contrary evidence.

dalaman:
The theist always use God as their default position for " I DON'T KNOW ". While the atheist is honest to admit that he/she doesn't know, the theist just use God and magic always as an explanation. The theist knows nothing and has NO answer to anything. He just uses God to cover up for his lack of knowledge. This can very clearly be demonstrated.

We can simply turn the questions right back at the christians here and other theist and ask them. I will specifically ask the christians here to tell us exactly how their God created the things they are asking the atheist to provide answers to and you will see that they do NOT have any answers to it despite claiming that it is God . Their answers is simply God did it but if you ask them how God did it, they will never be able to tell you because as I said earlier, God is just their default position for I DON'T KNOW.
They ONLY conjure God as an answer but in reality they have NO idea of what they are saying. Their answer is always an appeal to magic and that's where it all ends. An appeal to magic is simply saying or admitting that you do not know while claiming to know. As we all know pretending to know what you don't know is the life blood of all religions.

So christians over to you. Now tell us:

If, as Christians have argued, there is a creator God that created everything and they are in a personal relationship with him and that they also communicate with him, then these questions should be answered very clearly:

How exactly did God create two separate genders, each with its own physiology?

Why did God chose sex?

Did God create sex by accident or did he intelligently create it? What mechanism did he use to create sex?

Modified:

How did God create female members of a species that produces eggs and is internally equipped to nourish a growing embryo, while at the same time evolving a male member that produces motile sperm cells? How did God do all these things?

And, further, how is it that these gametes (eggs and sperm) were conveniently created that they each contain half the normal chromosome number of somatic (body) cells? How did God create the cells? What did he use to create the cells and how did he go about it?

The christians should provide all the answers to these questions. This should be very easy since they claim to be in a personal relationship with God and they also communicate with him. They should simply ask him and let him provide them with the answers.


To the atheist in the house just sit back and watch. NONE of them will be able to provide any answers. God to them is just their default position for I DON'T KNOW.

Cc: danvon, iamwhat, mohemos, butterflyl1on .

frank317:
If atheists say humans are created by nothing and u say ur God was created by nothing why are making a fuss about it?

hopefulLandlord:
Danvon and iamwhat are we done here?

hopefulLandlord:
This is fallacious, one doesn't need to provide a counter hypothesis to reject another hypothesis
this is why the court of law deals with "Guilty and not guilty"

They don't go "Mr iamwhat, we've found you not guilty of the charges brought against you, therefore Mr Danvon is guilty of those charges instead" The connection of your innocence is unrelated to Mr Danvon's

butterflyl1on:
Expect another red herring.

hopefulLandlord:
This is fallacious, one doesn't need to provide a counter hypothesis to reject another hypothesis
this is why the court of law deals with "Guilty and not guilty"

They don't go "Mr iamwhat, we've found you not guilty of the charges brought against you, therefore Mr Danvon is guilty of those charges instead" The connection of your innocence is unrelated to Mr Danvon's

hopefulLandlord:
1. I never said "I don't accept evolution theory", I said I haven't studied it enough to accept nor reject it. don't strawman me again please

2. I don't know but I understand why man created gods like Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Olodumare, Chukwu etc as "I don't know" has always been a difficult answer to give to a question

3. Atheism is as old as man, Darwin existed in the 19th century

hopefulLandlord:
how

I hope you're aware Darwin was never an atheist?

hopefulLandlord:
I don't "believe" in evolution theory, no one "believes" in evolution theory. one either studies it well and "accepts" its true or one rejects its validity

Let me rephrase your question to "Do you accept evolution theory?" and my answer is that I'm undecided on it, why? because I haven't studied it enough to have an opinion on it

hopefulLandlord:
Another misinformed theist thinking he had a eureka moment

1. Atheism is not a scientific claim

2. Evolution is a scientific claim

3. There are Christians that accept evolution theory

4. There are non-antheists that accept evolution theory
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theistic_evolution

5. There are atheists that reject evolution theory



Now go back and ask a germane question or you're just rambling ignorantly sir

Niflheim:
A picture is worth a thousand words!!!

Cute9gerian:
The Satan I know is mostly portrayed as red with horns or black

Cute9gerian:
Jesus is portrayed as a white man, Mary as a white woman, the angels in heaven are all white men, Adam and eve are white couples,amongst the 12 disciples there is not a single black man in sight, what more do you need?

LordVoldermort:
The big bang mythology remains an unproven myth

OtemAtum:
The Christian god called Yahweh actually messed up in that area, but we can forgive him. Let's pardon him and focus on the future of the world as nobody is above mistakes. I'm sure Yahweh would be regretting his actions in his spiritual prison by now.

@ solite, what do you have to say about your god permitting and commanding slavery?

Cute9gerian:
I'm a free thinker

My common sense tells me, and why it is evil? Subjecting someone to suffering and hard labour is evil and that's basically what slavery is all about

I'm inno way wanting anyone to support slavery

What makes up the world? In what context?

Cute9gerian:
You should be asking the Nigerian's that were held captive in lybia why slavery is bad or maybe it's cause you or probably any member of your family havnt experienced it,so it seems normal to you, and yes I say the Bible God 'Yahweh' because this facts clearly are from his supposed Bible...And most Christians don't support it because the world don't support it and it is seen as immoral but funny enough the God you allegedly worship supports and order it.

joseph1013:
CREATIONIST, FIND YOUR OWN EVIDENCE!

Danvon is urging us to allow schools to teach the Bible. That way, I assume he intends that we teach kids the creation story, since he obviously believes that evolution is perfectly unscientific. He insists there is nothing wrong with teaching and promoting Christianity in school.

I'm quite curious about his response to hopefulLandlord. S/he provides danvon with a link to check out what evolution is about, but instead of setting down to get educated about natural selection, he instead impatiently tries to pick holes in the theory.

Why do creationists do this? Why is it that they never present evidence to support their own creationist hypothesis? Because they have none. So they are left with the futile strategy of picking holes in evolutionary theory using half-truths, distortions and lies.

They miss the rather obvious fact that, even if evolution were proven false, their own Biblical theory would not be advanced a single inch.

Creationism needs to find its own evidence and, until it does, it will continue to be seen as a pitiful attempt by believers in superstition and magic to salvage some credibility where none is deserved.