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analize701:
Every Muslim will wish no one supports Israel abi?

Satan and his agents.

Again with Muslims I said the world isn't divided into Jews and Arabs , why can't you be a Christian and oppose both of them, your brainwashed that's why

Seun:
Please quote the verses they got the idea of the devil from in the Old Testament.

Isaiah 14:12-15 even the op admitted it

analize701:
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

***On your face***

well brainwashed people think they are not brainwashed you can't find even one verse in the Revelation that says Christians will fight for Jews nope you can't, compare America today and when it did not support Israel, Does it look blessed or cursed?

Verdict Passed: "Christians got their Idea from the Old Testament"... LA fin

analize701:
I'm asking you again, why are we talking about Israel and not about Islam whom you claim are not all Ismael's descendants?

Maybe you only read the Bible to see what you can use against the Jews, but here is what Prophecy says will happen to the Nation of Israel and it is happening before our very eyes.

Zechariah:8:23
Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

Why do you think all of a sudden, all these people wants to become Jews?

Does it not surprise you?

The Jewish tribe is the most hated and despised tribe on earth. Even the blacks who are believed to be the Cursed Bloodline of Shem mock the Jews.

What is in Israel for all these people who are claiming to be Jews at the long run?

The Jews themselves are not even accommodating of these Gentiles who are claiming their ancestry, yet these gentiles are still pushing.

Muslim, you are fighting God in this matter. When he choose them as His people, He exactly what they'd do. They have never truly Obeyed YHWH from Egypt to the Wilderness till Jesus's, till date, but he chose them anyways.

Do you think when he told Abraham that he had chosen him to start a people who be His, and He decided to keep them separate as His own, he didn't see today?

Bros, the promises YHWH made to fight those who hates the Jews will come on you. I don't know how you read your Bible.

The Words of YHWH never fails.

okay it makes no sense arguing with a brainwashed person

urahara:
not so fast, power puff boy.


How you are fallen from heaven, O morning star! You have been cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations!” (Isaiah 14:12 )

if you say the morning star is Satan, that means Jesus is also Satan.


Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

look at the passage below, the morning star is obviously the king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar.
it makes more sense seeing that the book of Isaiah was so fixated about king Nebuchadnezzars destruction of the temple.

this was never about Satan obviously.


That thou shall take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, ‘How hath the oppressor ceased, the golden city ceased!’” (Isaiah 14:4)

your Bible is fake, honestly I was expecting you to say that, you atheists are somehow predictable
King James Bible "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, SON of the MORNING! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"
Isaiah:14:12, son of the morning, not morning star, only in satanic Bibles like the one you are using, that's compares Jesus with Lucifer

correctguy101:
Urahara, your head dey there

The bolded makes me lol when I remember some funny funky Jew wannabes in Nigeria

Black man will never seize to deceive himself... SMH

im not urahara

urahara:
brother the Old Testament teaches that Satan was a good agent of god.

why does Christianity contradict this ?

stop going around the question

which part specifically? Isaiah 14:12-15 didn't call him a good Angel, so where in did you read Satan is a good Angel doing what God tells him to do

urahara:
you don't seem to get my point.

all the Jews, both modern and ancient have never believed that Satan was evil.

in the Old Testament Bible he always had to take permission from god before causing mischief.


you forgot to also state that god brings evil to also test peoples faith, as in the case of job

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN, which say they are JEWS, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."
Revelation:3:9, how do you expect them to believe that Satan is evil?


"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
1 Corinthians:10:13 God did not let Satan tempt Job beyond what he could not bear, God is good he doesn't support Satan

analize701:
Why are you talking Judaism and not Islam?

Our God through Christ has GRAFTED, (Do you know what being grafted means?) us into the Covenant He made with Abraham. We the gentles becomes spiritual Israelites. The Seed of Abraham.

Tell me how Muslims who are not descendants of Ismael came about.

No wonder Arabs treat you like animals.

Good we are the Israelites who will inherit his kingdom, not those wicked gay loving people in Israel so stop supporting them

urahara:
Satan in the Old Testament and in Judaism is seen as a heavenly obstacle , a holy angel who even has no free will.

Jews state that the serpent in the garden of Eden was not the devil but a real talking snake.

Satan never rebelled against YHWH but was created for the purpose of tempting people — usually Satan is more a symbol than an actual being.

In Judaism, It would be blasphemous and a violation of monotheism to regard him as a rival to YHWH, as Satan is in some forms of Christianity. Judaism also rejects the concept of original sin.

since Christianity claims that both the Old Testament and the new testament were inspired by god.

then why does the new testament contradict the Old Testament.

it's either Yahweh decided to deceive the Jews about Satan's real nature or Christians are being deceived.

In fact, the Talmud says, all that Satan does, he does for the sake of heaven. Without him, the defense attorney wouldn't bother to dig up all the merits of the defense. And the defense would have to try so hard to give himself more merits.

If we take a look at Isaiah 45:7, we see that Hashem is the creator of everything, as the text says, “bringing forth light and create darkness, I make peace and create evil, I am G-d who does all these things.” In the Jewish bible, everything is under the jurisdiction of G-d and under His power – all forces, even evil forces. Everything comes from G-d, He created everything, good and evil. That being the case, Satan is not a rival of G-d, he is a messenger of G-d and unable to do anything outside of G-d’s will.


so my question is..... where did Christians get their foreign concept of Satan from?


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how does that verse supports Satan, God will bring evil to those who reject his Word, he sent the plague to the Egyptians when they refused to let his people go, he sent Babylon to destroy Judah because they rejected him, doesn't say God loves Satan, the Talmud also teaches that Jesus was the bastard son of Mary the prostitute, is that were you get your beliefs from?

analize701:
Really? Some are descendants of Esau abi?

And not all Jews are descendants of Isaac if you accept Judaism your a Jew and a citizen of Israel

analize701:
I thought you were a Christian?

Gerarahia.

Now not all Muslims are descendants of Ishmael

Just want to ask op before you tell them God doesn't exist which 'God' are you referring to specifically

analize701:
What was he? A child had outside of marriage is called what in Islam? In Christianity we call them bastards.

Come chop, she want come commot food for madam mouth.

Muslims are thieves. I just pity anyone who allows those creatures close to them.

Animals like dogs and Cats are better as companions that muslims.

Just give them a little space, they will pretend to be humans and bring their smelling folks around, before you know, they'll want you out of your own land.

you just gave a perfect description of Jews

analize701:
And God also cursed him by saying, He shall be a WILD MAN, (A BEAST OF NO NATION). Wherever he finds himself, they shall be no peace, for his hands shall always be against the people around him.

Look around you Muslim, Is the curse working?


You never stop to display your ignorance by quoting the Bible you call corrupt to validate your claims, albeit, out of context.

where did you see that curse in the Bible?

And some mumu Christians are supporting Israel supporting the Anti Christ birth

analize701:
Satan came not, but, to steal, to kill and to destroy. Take a closer look at Muhammed and Islam from inception.

They kill,

they still

they destroy mostly what belongs to the Christians and Jews.


From Hagar, they have been trying to steal from the Jews.


Hagar was brought in as a surrogate to have a child, she tried to.throw sarah out of her home.


Ismael the bastard son, tried to steal Isaac's place by claiming we was the one Abraham sacrificed.


Muslims steals every major character in the Jewish Bible and make them Muslims. All the Jewish prophets were Muslims, leaving the Jews with nothing.

They tried to steal the Jewish God and name him allah. God for bit.


They stole Jesus and named him Isa.

After exile, the Jews ran into the dry desert and turned it into an oasis, Muhammed attacked them on Sabbath day, knowing they will not fight back, he killed them all, and stole their land.

He commissioned his followers to make sure to steal everything which belongs to the Jews.

After his death, they went after Jerusalem the Jewish Holy City.

Allah is satan and false prophet Muhammed was his messenger.

I know how stubborn you are and won't want to hear the truth, two wrongs don't make a right both Jews and Arabs reject Jesus, you call Ishmael a bastard remember that God promised to make him a great nation, Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN, which say they are JEWS, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." There's only one religion that uses synagogues and it's those who call themselves Jews, you can be Jewish if you accept Judaism, stop talking about Jews like they are saints the world isn't divided into Jews and Arabs.

Nice image building

The world would be a big hell North Korea, Russia are good examples

And I just read a thread about a man who posted his daughters breast

Rape cases are rarely done by strangers

saintmark88:
They r a confused set of lies......this one prolly doesn't know the meaning of alpha and omega, first and last.

Argued with one who knew, he knew if he agreed that that statement was made by Jesus, he will contradict himself, so he decided that the statement was made by Jehova but was given to Jesus to give to the angel and then to John, my brova, I tire

Just stop don't waste your time

"When a rich nigga want ya and your nigga can do nothing for ya, ooh this ____________"

Wow despite all the technology of China it's still a developing country

dalaman:
How can God be said to be the epitome of moral goodness when he does evil himself? How can evil be contrary to it's nature when he does evil?

Accordingto the bible, God does evil acknowledges it and even repents from it.

Jer 42:9 - And said unto them, Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, unto whom ye sent me to present your supplication before him;
Jer 42:10 - If ye will still abide in this land, then will I build you, and not pull you down, and I will plant you, and not pluck you up: for I repent me of the evil that I have done unto you.

I've asked you many times without getting an answer and I'll ask again. How is your God the epitome of moral goodness when he does evil, acknowledges it and even repents from it? How is evil contrary to his nature when he does evil?

. lol your not a Christian but your using Bible you're a joker

I Talk Am!!! saintmark88 I've had enough experience with JWs

The only reason they aren't striking him is because he doesn't claim to be a Christian he's a deist historically deist have been called atheist

saintmark88:
Now u have answered him... I tot u didn't know this verse to respond to that his lie

they will never admit it they will be looking for counter

ojobolinda:
Yea, i knw he existed bfore Genesis 1 jst lik d Father, bt does he have no beginning jst lik d Father or was he created along wit d Angels. Dat's d question Sir

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."
Revelation:22:13 no he didn't

Peacefullove:
Before I proceed , let me drop an advice sir .

Whenever you want to comment on a thread make sure u understand the OP very well, to avoid posting OFF topic like you are doing , even breaking Nairaland rules .

This is not a trinity thread, so the " Same God " phrase is highly nonsensical .

I was asking this:

why is Jesus , Angels , Man all called " Son of God " ?

why is Yahweh, the Father of all... never addressed with such title ?

where were Angels called begotten Son of God?, Yahweh is referred to as the Godhead in the Bible