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DonBobes:
Make i add more

chai abeg e don do

This is evil they will go to hell for dis

DavidEsq:
Ur failure to answer my questions that could have raised valid posers in ur mind speaks volumes

I don't know if ur an atheist or ur a Jehovah witness but ur so indirect u told me to read ecc u didn't ask me any question even if hell appears in d new testament does that mean it doesn't appear in d bible ur confusing pls don't quote me again with indirect nonsense and its in the old testament anyway proverb 15vs24, 7vs27, 9vs18 5vs5 it compares life with heaven and death with hell so I don't know what ur talking about but since ur Jehovah witness I bet u don't have a king James bible

DavidEsq:
In the scripture u quoted, did Jesus Christ mention that the rich man was a sinner (I guess u and ur church just assumed that part into the verse) or that lazarus was righteous(u also assumed that part here too abi?)? And pls don't quote the part of a camel and a needle eye, cos in all the parable of that rich man who asked his soul to rest and enjoy, the picture was clear: He placed his hopes and life on his earthly belongings and in Jesus dialogue with the oda rich man whom he as to give off his wealth, the rich man's response was wat led to the camel an needle eye analogy and not the mere fact that the man was rich.
Jesus Christ had never given a parable that had blank spaces for us to assume facts into the parable. Check all his parables. Here, he wasn't talking about hell at all.
So back to my kweshon.......cld u answer it pls?

first that wasn't a parable it was reality when Jesus tells us parables he uses a man in a certain town, but here he gives a detailed explanation even using names Abraham Lazarus, the rich man went to hell because he saw a poor man starve to death in front of him knowing fully well he could have helped him he was all dis I don't care people and nobody like that is suited for heaven, hell is more proper, so ur trying to say there is no hell? well "the dead know nothing"

DavidEsq:
Pls read Ecclesiastics 9:5-6.

I've heard that one a lot in the bible God refers to those who are saved as the living he refers to the unsaved as the dead, for those who will be saved know that they will die they don't attach themselves to this world, but the unsaved know nothing, if you need proof of heaven and hell read Luke chapter 16 vs 20-27

anssy:
Have you heard of the theory of the virgin birth

yes I believe my God can make a man without a woman *Adam* make a woman without a woman *Eve* yes I surely believe in the virgin birth prove d story of creation is a myth den I'll say d virgin birth is a myth does that answer your question

There is no such thing as an atheist d only thing close is someone who has lied to himself frequently that there is no God he actually believed it

hopefulLandlord:
You're saying absence of evidence is evidence of presence?

u haven't answered my question anyway, I'm trying to say if you can't prove he doesn't exist don't say he doesn't exist if you die what if you were wrong about it, u see in d end u admitted atheist are stupid if they are even atheists

hopefulLandlord:
if you say something isn't there and someone says its there, then the person asserting its there has the burden of proof

same way if I assert a pink elephant exists and you think it doesn't the onus is on me to provide a pink elephant or argue logically for why I'm certain a pink elephant exists NOT turning around and telling you to prove no pink elephant exists

using ur pink elephant theory ur trying to say God exist because you haven't searched the whole universe to prove he doesn't exist

hopefulLandlord:
prove pink elephant doesn't exist and I'll use your methods

now ur trying to talk ur way out like all politicians do ur an idiot why don't you defend let me do d attack confused deluded you can't even try

hopefulLandlord:
I never called you an idiot! BTW why do I have to die to find out? was that what your Elijah said to the prophet of Baal in your storybook? or did he reportedly call fire down from heaven instead?

I actually wasn't arguing with you, calling the conversation we just had an argument would be insulting to the word cuz you were absolutely no match for me, no offense meant, all you did was spill illogicalities and wrong info you got fed by your fellow theists about what atheism is about while I countered them with verifiable info
therefore, I would this conversation me educating you and burning off the strawman you've been fed

now I can see ur a brainwashed person who is attacking believers but can't even defend or define what he believes in

hopefulLandlord:
actually I want to stay on topic, I was silent on this thread till you pulled argument from complexity as an evidence/proof of a creator, I never claimed there's no creator but I'm sure Yahweh doesn't exist

Then prove it u didn't answer my question

hopefulLandlord:
I never called you an idiot! BTW why do I have to die to find out? was that what your Elijah said to the prophet of Baal in your storybook? or did he reportedly call fire down from heaven instead?

I actually wasn't arguing with you, calling the conversation we just had an argument would be insulting to the word cuz you were absolutely no match for me, no offense meant, all you did was spill illogicalities and wrong info you got fed by your fellow theists about what atheism is about while I countered them with verifiable info
therefore, I would this conversation me educating you and burning off the strawman you've been fed

verifiable let's turn d tables around prove there is no God

hopefulLandlord:
lol, you're throwing insults to save face from your failed claim and attempting to shift the goalposts in the process
let's stay on the topic that started this discourse which is

"The universe is so perfect it means there's a creator"

I'm willing to admit that possibility but where does that train of thought lead us?

Q: how perfect is this creator you're talking about?

Danvon: This creator is even more "perfect" than the universe

Q: if the perfectness of the universe make you conclude there's a creator, doesn't it follow that the even more perfect creator must've been created?

Danvon: You're an idiot!

Questioner: Now you've convinced me

okay fine I'm an idiot die today you'll see how stupid I was and I'm still saying dis obviously I'm deluded stop trying to argue with me and practice what you believe

BlackManta:
Adolf Hitler is atheist
I dont know the kind of weed you are smoking but that stuff is very strong.

he claimed to be Christian because Germany is d cradle of protestianism buhari went to church before election does that make him a Christian I see ur not talking about Stalin

hopefulLandlord:
for the umpteenth time: EVOLUTION IS A SCIENTIFIC THEORY NOT AN ATHEISTIC ONE!!!! Many Catholics have accepted evolution theory, go figure

a theory is something that can be proven its a myth and only an atheist can produce something so stupid

hopefulLandlord:
then you've terminated your own logic by admitting something as perfect as your supposed god wasn't created but something as "perfect" as the universe must have a creator

anyways, with faith Its possible to eat one's cake and have it

even basic science will tell you that energy can neither be created nor destroyed but can be converted from one form to another God is more powerful than that anyway sha I'm arguing with an idiot how can I make a point

anssy:
Now that America is world power and Hitler has failed, let's leave evolution aside, can you prove that god exists

America teach children evolution theory in public schools, and I still don't get your question can you prove God doesn't exist after all ur d genius who knows everything

hopefulLandlord:
okay let's follow your train of thought and see where it leads, shall we?

premise 1: everything is so perfect there must be a creator

premise 2: the creator is even more perfect than the universe

question: who created that perfect creator?

Nobody he is the past present and the future

Xisnin:
A simple dictionary search would have cleared your ignorance.
You are in the same class of the illiterates family member who bundled
a rational mind to a psychiatric ward.

You are not dead and have never been dead, yet claim knowledge
of the dead.SMH.

yeah so are you but like I said when we die we'll know who was right and who was brainwashed

anssy:
Let me educate you, it is the person that says that something exists that should prove it,

it doesn't exist look at the world you live in look at stars look at everything that is perfect only a fool would believe it was all an accident that d universe exploded into existence when has an explosion ever created? Idiots

anssy:
Hitler was Catholic and all Catholics are Christians. It is only a fool that will say in his heart that your god doesn't exist, but the wise ones will open their mouths, say it loud and clear that the concept of god is brain washing

Hitler was an evolutionalist who believed d Aryans have evolved more than other races and are deemed superior to rule d world and I ask did question again prove God doesn't exist even d best scientists Aristotle,isaac Newton Albert Einstein blaise pascal etc all believed there is a God somewhere even ur ancestors were not stupid April first should be atheist day because you guys are all fools

anssy:
He also patronized the virgin birth theory

He is dead anyway .

so he lives on in stupid atheist like you no wonder d bible says "professing themselves to become wise they became fools " its Romans chapter 1 vs 22 in case you children freeze ask me

anssy:
You are a perfect example of a slave who is in love with his chains.
brain washing is evil

your d one who is brainwashed prove God doesn't exist right here right now

anssy:
Hitler was a Catholic

"was" thank you he loved d evolution theory as you very well

anssy:
So how do we educate your type? How do we stop your kind from being brain washed, how are you guys going to be sensitized if we keep our mouths shut

thank you very much for your kind gesture but we liked being brainwashed look at pot calling snow black who is truly brainwashed us who believe we were created or u guyz who believe we exploded into existence

1Sharon:
Lol. you could say the same for Christians. If they truly believed god exists they wouldn't need to organise seminars and debates and even share testimonies.

Why do they do these things? To keep convincing themselves with doubt all around them or what?

I know it is like a big slap in the face of Christians when they see non-Christians doing well in life without worshipping their god. Bwahaha.. .

doing well you mean atheist Joseph Stalin who killed 30million people or atheist Adolf Hitler who killed over 6million yeah atheist are doing well Christians know God exist that's why they pray and besides Christians can prove God exist atheist can't prove God doesn't exist

Theoretically there is no such thing as an atheist, if they truly believe there is no God they would stop trying to organize seminars and debates to prove he doesn't exist becus when we die we'll have all d proof we need

I'm sure the atheist will be fasting and praying in custody they will know he was not an atheist

raymytech:
Could this be the reason why Bible says, we shall collect from poor and add to the rich?

where in which bible?

9jakohai:
Hmmm

Bubu, here is HOW you stop people from migrating to Libya...and then to Europe.

Once upon a time, thousands of Koreans and before them Japanese were migrating all over the place...then something happened.

Their home countries became industrial...and started manufacturing goods for the world to consume.

Bubu, i can never be you...but if i was in your shoes

1.I will cut all government spending...especially on our Senate and House of Reps and special advisers

2.I will increase taxes and also increase fees in health and education. All universities are gonna become public private.

3.I will start a ten year no, FIVE year programme to increase power gen to 20000MW...and we dobule that in ten years

4.Increase spending on technical schools, mono and polytechnics.

5.Deregulate the downstream petrol sector...yes, we waste millions on subsidy

6.Fight corruption...including APC members.

7.Attract foreign investors

8.Take a loan of 100bn USD to fix power transmission thoroughly.

9.Increase manufacturing.

10...Then there will be jobs galore...and no one would want to go to LEEBYA.

. I swear everything u listed is evil pure tyranny thank God ur not our leader
Take a loan of 100bn, who will pay it?
Increase taxes , sure give more money to the rich
Increase health fees, now I know ur evil
All universities should be public, meaning people will learn only what you want them to learn besides if they don't behave u could take them out with ASUU strike
Fight corruption? Ur already corrupt how else did someone like you become d president

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