₦airaland Forum

newmi:
My brother no bi only you o infact l am flaberwelmed and overgasted

deji.ariyo:
Paradoxically, the same people who complain about the extravagant lifestyles of their spiritual leaders are the same ones who finance it. Every Sunday, swarms of worshipers rush to the church to give away their hard-earned money to the pastors’ coffers in the form of tithes, offerings and special gifts with the deluded hope of multiplied financial blessings in return. For many, this is but a pipe dream. Deep down, the pastors smile; they’ve got just the perfect suckers.

deji.ariyo:
It’s not cheap to own a private jet. On average, it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars annually to maintain a personal plane. The majority of Nigerians frown at such flagrant displays of opulence, particularly on the path of their clergymen, given that 60% of Nigerians still live below the poverty line.

Joagbaje:
I wonder why some relentlessly take pleasure in evil speakings against men of God instead of focussing on their Purpose in christ

Joagbaje:
This has nothing to do with the thread about bodyguard

Kgdavid:
4. who are you to decide how they use money you never contributed to?

dare2think:
Who are you to decide what I decide to decide??

Kgdavid:
where did i decide wat you should decide to decide? merely pointed out that you are not in any position to decide for otheers. (gotta give u an A for your efforts to sound smart while evading the fact that you are really commenting on an issue without having any basis for such)

Kgdavid:
3. work out your own salvation with fear and trembling i.e mind your business

Kgdavid:
here is indeed the bit where your lack of understanding is most exposed. work out your salvation with fear and tremblng has nothing to do with being afraid of a pastor, it simply means God does not care wat you think about any pastor, all he cares about is what you do with your life, so if you're gonna spend your time scrutinizing the activities of another man, you're wasting your time. your question should be am i right with God? not is bishop David Oyedepo right with God?

Kgdavid:
3. work out your own salvation with fear and trembling i.e mind your business

Kgdavid:
lol,
obviously churches make their money through offerings and tithes, these are honest means(legally) or are you adding a new accusation of criminal activity? 

Kgdavid:
if you would have merely paid a little more attention instead of being in a rush to sound smart you would have realized im not a winners chapel member so i dont know wat arrangements they have concerning those but surely those who are members are satisfied with the arrangement no?. so organizations distribute profit amongst their members lol Oh my God what am i reading here? look up the meanings of organization and company pls, for your own good.

Kgdavid:
lol, im not unhappy at all, wat gave yu that impression? your the one who comes across as extremely unhappy

Kgdavid:
how do you propose God's word should travel from Nigeria to pakistan from example? by boat??

patrick45:
Well i am not saying this to mean that some pastor are better than the other, cos the bible expressly instructed that "we should not judge", My pastor Rv. Sam Adeyemi. Drives himself and wife to church every sunday. No tinted glasses, no convoy nothing. I just believe that people are different and do things differently , having cogent justification for their actions. So i wont say it is bad, My pastor has follower-ship but not as much as some other pastors. It might just be for crowd control as well.

Kgdavid:
3. work out your own salvation with fear and trembling i.e mind your business

Kgdavid:
1. the money was gained through honest means

Kgdavid:
4. who are you to decide how they use money you never contributed to?

Kgdavid:
2. those assets belong to the organization not the man

Kgdavid:
1. the money was gained through honest means
2. those assets belong to the organization not the man
4. who are you to decide how they use money you never contributed to?
3. work out your own salvation with fear and trembling i.e mind your business

Don Shark:
I pray that God should bless you richly so that your mentality will change.Amen.

Don Shark:
May God have mercy on all those negatively criticizing the servant of God for buying a jet.
Let me ask you these questions;
1. Is it a crime for God to bless someone.
2. If not,is it a crime for someone to enjoy God's blessings on one's life.
2. If not,why the hullabaloo about Bishop David O. Oyedepo owning a private jet.
Let me confide this to you;God's blessings maketh rich and addeth no sorrrow,if only you can give up pleasures of life to serve God genuinely,God will not only give you a jet but shall make you own an airline company.You know he can do all things.I pray that God should bless you richly so that your mentality will change.Amen.

nuclearboy:
^^ Are you not being too critical?

Olaadegbu is using Biblical standards to judge and accepts his own fallibility so its not hypocrisy. The Bible states what is fine and what is not. I doubt if you'd want to call him false anyway. I too have before argued against him and we don't agree on everything. But the stuff he uses only state his own feelings is why he uses them - not all of us are good at composition. As long as they pass his message, they are fine and teach a good message in a society where some are almost selling indulgences. They (not him) should face heat!

Bury the hatchet, please!

Azibalua:
It's like saying we do not need church buildings in the country because of it's economic state,we should rather use the money on welfare
No, to every thing there is a time and season
The plane is a necessity not a luxury,[b]even if it were a luxury is it wrong? No,[/b]Aside from helping members of his congregation, he does this too for non members,but this is not even his primary responsibility,his primary responsibility is to equip the saints for the work of ministry.

You are yet to say what you think the plane is used for.

Azibalua:
It's like saying we do not need church buildings in the country because of it's economic state,we should rather use the money on welfare
No, to every thing there is a time and season
The plane is a necessity not a luxury,even if it were a luxury is it wrong? No,
Aside from helping members of his congregation, he does this too for non members,but this is not even his primary responsibility,his primary responsibility is to equip the saints for the work of ministry.

You are yet to say what you think the plane is used for.

dare2think:
Firstly, I dont think there is a need for a plane in a poverty stricken country like Nigeria. The money for the plane and its maintainance can be used productively on welfare and the less priveledged, not only to church members but anyone who needs help.

"Love thy neighbor" not love thy Christain neighbor.

To answer your question, I think the planes are used to satify Oyedepo's ego, and an unecessary show of wealth in a country or continent ravaged by poverty and disease.

So, what materials do they carry?

food? mosquito nets? what materials does a luxury jet carry??

OLAADEGBU:
I have broken all the 10 commandments of God, I have repented and have received the grace to go and sin no more[b] and if I fall into sin [/b] I have an advocate Jesus Christ the righteous who is the propitiation for my sin. In short, I have now put on Jesus Christ as one would put on a parachute and when I pass through the gates of death I would land safely in the hollow of my Lord and Saviour. The question is are you good enough to make heaven? Click on the questionnaire to find out.

Azibalua:
Why not start first by giving examples of what you think the planes are used for

Azibalua:
Travvelling to minister in other countries,
Conveying[b] materials [/b] to other parts of the world

OLAADEGBU:
I am not judging you, what 'am doing is simply telling you of God's judgment, that God, (not me) has judged all the world as being guilty before Him (Romans 3:19,23). When you were referring to Jesus not judging the love peddler in your earlier post what Jesus was offering her was forgiveness of her sin, because He was on His way to die on the cross for her. The woman acknowledged Jesus as "Lord" but He still told her, "Go, and sin no more." as you implied here. If the woman didn't repent, she would perish. To sin no more means that we should repent otherwise we would all likewise perish.

Azibalua:
Why not start first by giving examples of what you think the planes are used for

Azibalua:
A man of god buys planes and we can easily jump to the conclusion that he took the money from the poor. If they are poor where did they get the money to give to him,
I think we should be more concerned about the fact that these planes are used for missionary work instead of being used by unbelievers to transfer all manners of wrong goods