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^^^ - Shakes head- If you can't understand or refuse to understand my reply, shame. Again, no point having a constructive engagment with you. |
@ Martian Just saw a programm on Tv in which the indoctrination of children was addressed. It was mentioned that as well as good morality is passed on to the children, prejudice I.e Homophobia and others, is also passed on to this children. In that respect, I agree with some of your views. |
Azibalua:Hilarious, Which world?? |
muskeeto; Dude-----------PARAGRAPHS ![]() |
This is what he said: 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” This is what you said: Joagbaje:He even mentioned it twice for clarification, yet your are still trying to dilute and twist it to justify yourself. Ofcourse if you use it (riches) to serve God it is commendable but it still does not change what Jesus said. |
Azibalua:-Sighs- Are you telling me the person that made this statement ; Matthew 19:23-24 (New International Version) 23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” Was the richest man on earth? Wow, I'm speechless. Jesus even said it twice. |
Joagbaje:What is the "Infilling" of the holy spirit? How do we know if one has this Holy spirit? |
Joagbaje:Why?? Why can't we discuss and learn from each other. Must the "Pastor" do the thinking for you? |
He will weep and just turn back. |
@papido I like your approach too, though I don t agree with some things you said , I respect your stand. But be careful, do not depend or exalt Or put complete trust in your fellow man, You will be disappointed, only God is infallible. In my view, no need for jets when their are still hungry people in the country. Good luck, I'm sure your are a pleasant dude. |
@papido thanks for the insight. However, pls how did you come to the conclusion that the source of his income is from personal gifts? Where you there when he was recieving them? From the way you sound you seem to know a lot about him. Or are you a member of the church group that deals with finances? I'm only asking since I don't know, and you seem to be aware of the details of the church. Or did you research it just like the "oyinbos". By the way, I don't "hate him ", asking questions and debating on issues does not equate to hatred. Thanks ![]() |
Joagbaje:I agree with the Bolded. But you initiated that there is a difference between the "rich sinner" and the "rich saint". But Jesus never used those terms in the bible when he was discussing about the Rich man and the Needle. But you chose to differentiate them yourself thereby distorting the real saying of Jesus Christ. Dont Think you can just come on a public forum and spew things unchallenged. Here is not a church congregation. |
Joagbaje:You are guilty of the same offense you are accusing me of. When did I mention that God is against being rich? |
Joagbaje:Dude, that is your prerogative. If by challenging your assertions you call it ridicule then you, my friend, are afraid of the same truth that you speak of. |
Martian:I agree. |
Martian:I dont do any of the bolded. I never disregard other faiths (Did I disregard you?). If you read my post on this forum, I challenge bigoted views and obvious hypocrisy. And I subject scrutiny to all faiths including mine. I feel the fear for the uncertainty of death is natural maybe that't why alot of people are into religion. Truth is, I dont know, I can only speak for myself. Are you afraid of death? |
Joagbaje: dare2think: Joagbaje:Stop the comparison then. ![]() |
@ nukeboy? Simple question, he keeps evading, funny guy I tell you @ Joagbaje Just answer the simple question Did Jesus differentiate? |
dare2think:You missed this bit out. I never mentioned Money in my post. By the way, YOU ARE NOT JESUS. |
lol, Joagbaje Please supply the evidence that Jesus collected Tithes and "seeds" Did Jesus differentiate between the "rich sinner" or the "rich saint". Did he not say "rich man". Why do you always give your own interpretations to justify your arguments. That is scary and fraudulent. You keep falling for the names that you are being accused of. Pls correct me if I am wrong. |
I get you Martian and I see your points, But I have to say, Personally I have an innate feeling about the presense of a strong force within me. Whether it is due to the induced indoctrination you say, or the fear, I dont know. BuT I believe in God, However I still acknowlegde the havoc religion has done to humanity and how It has been used as a source for manipulation. I feel the true essence of religion has been corrupted and Individuals use the text to satisfy their "fears" and greed. Througout documented history, some people who claim their faith is the epitome of love and salvation often do the opposite and contradict themselves. This forum is a case study. I feel there are some valuable teachings we can get from religion i.e loving thy neighbor and helping the poor. I do not feel as you are , Martian, that I am better than you because I believe in God or because you dont share my beliefs you are condemned to hell. That is not my position. Fact is, crime is commited accross the spectrum of humanity, religiuous or non-religious. And morality is dependant on the individual and influenced by circumstances and environment. One of the Irony of some folks on this forum that I noticed is that they seem to pen prosperity on religion. Which is clearly not the case as prosperity is a natural phenomena that crosses the boundaries of religion. There are several rich Atheist as there are several rich individual of other faiths. That is my view. One more thing, do not view theist folks as Ignorant. Evryone is entitled to their beliefs and faiths just as you are entitled to your beliefs but debates must not be avoided as we must continue to question each other so we can learn and also look within. . we can still chat more if you want. |
Zikkyy:Lovely Reply, Imagine if Jesus collected tithes and "seeds", the guy would have been the richest man in history. But that would have contradicted his view about the RICH man and the NEEDLE which our "prosperity" brethens always shy away from. "My God is not a poor God", Pls when did God ever get concerned about earthly riches. Hypocrites is too nice a word for their kind. |
Joagbaje:Which are the false religion? Is it the little boy's fault (the boy in the pix) that he was born in a muslim region?? What about those in predominatly muslim states, where they were born and died, generation after generation. Are you calling their religion false just because you might have been "lucky" to be born in a christian region. How is that fair? |
@Martian I just read over my post again (I did not construct the post well), and it looks as though am questioning your assertions but Infact , I agree with you. But bigotry seem to be the order of the day. Everyone is trying to prove their religion is the right one. If only we spend all that effort on humanity the world would be an utopian entity right now. |
del:Foreget about violent, How did Oyedepo get his wealth? Indulge us, so all this "blasphemy" stops. |
dayokanu:lol |
Joagbaje:Where you there?? or wass he the one that told you this? |
mazaje:This is what I don't understand, and nobody seem to be able to answer me, If I were born in China, 97% chance I would be a buddist and I would laugh at the concept of another faith. Why cant we all get along?? |
@muskeeto Martian was being sarcastic. |
Joagbaje: ![]() |
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