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sexybaby22:
Why do you men think all we want to hear is money?!

How have u ppl proven that wrong?

lestat:
There you go again a clear contradiction!

Jesus the son of God was worried about his own death?

He raised lazsrus from the dead, he was the son of God the perfect Hod the omnipotent omnipresent and omniscience God and you say he was worried about death of his flesh?

He was worried about how dark and schemeing the heart of man was!!!

He saw that despite all he came to do was to show us with love that we should.love our fellow brothers and sisters the church instead of adopting this doctrine was trying to kill him!!!?

And he fulfilled by showing that despite having the poerr to end all life with a single word, despite having the poerr to booth out the sun with a single word he allow mankind murder his body beacusr like he said if one slaps you turn the other cheek

He wasn't he to die he came to show that the likes of adeboye , oyedepo, oyakihlomeh, etc are not the whole to paradise , it is in how you live each and every moment !
He came to show that you maybe the general.overaeer of the largest church on Earth but that doesn't gusrnstee you a place in paradise

He came to show that it's not by sitting in front in church or by being ordained Pope

But by how you think , speak and liv3 3ach moment of each day

Lord Jesus never had body guard even though people wanted to serve him to cautined them to be like.littlw children to live a simple life devoid of vanity

The church leaders had the plans , they knew the power of controlling people with religion.

Jesus never came to sit in any church , came to show the people.the way to salvation lies not in church attendance but by the manner of life you live !!

All the ost Cole.peole.att3nd church , but how do they live ?
Gej, osibanjo etc they are all high members of redeemed yet how do they live?

If Lord Jesus was here today you would.all crucify. Him for.soeakimg against adeboye, oyedepo, Mathew ashimolowo, oyakilomeh, oyadr , etc

You would.soon3r stone him tondeatbthan hear him say the pope.is wrong or adeboye is wrong

This is how Lucifer planned it.

And eveil the binle warms of this. When Lucifer tempted Lord Jesus to jump from the kijtain to prove he was the son of God what did he say?

If he was to die he might have as well have done same later, jump from a miuntain and still say he died for mankind

Or was having the murderous humans butcher him ansign of love?

Please the son of God was murdered innvold blood by the church under the influence of Lucifer as it is today ...

Why is it everywhere else in the binle where God the Father gives instructions it is always clear , to Jacob, Isaac, Joseph, Moses, Saul, 3tc God the Father says do this or do that, go there or sacrifice that

Why is it suddenly when his son, the ourest form of.love our Lord Jesus Christ came no one.heard instructions like.iill uim? Murder him?

Please spare me.

U didn't cite any scripture to back ur opinion, neither did u controvert the scriptures I cited.

nairaman66:
You didn’t see the humor

In dis Buhari era, who dey see humour?

Lukay99:
With all due respect, your argument is very weak. You're cherry picking verses or part of a verse from the Quran or the old testament to substantiate your flawed claim.

Sura 57:3
He is the FIRST and the LAST, and the Outward (His signs appear on all His creatures) and the Inward (Hidden). And He is the All-Knower of everything.

Why did ignore the part that said "And He is the All-knower of everything "? Both the holy spirit and Jesus (saw) are not All-knower they where both actually ignorant of the last hour.

Bible Mark 13:32 ►
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

The Bible says that Jesus is subordinate to God
‘Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.’ (1 Corinthians 11:3)

Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

But Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)
'He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)
‘the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5)

You also made a claim that Jesus was able to forgive sins and perform many miracles so he must be God.
But the The Bible says that Jesus could not do anything by himself
‘I can of mine own self do nothing.’ (John 5:30)
‘The son can do nothing by himself; he can only do what he sees his Father doing.’ (John 5:19).
‘All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28:18)
God is all-powerful, no one gives God His powers, otherwise He would not be God because He would be weak.  Therefore, Jesus could not be God.

The Bible says that Jesus was God’s servant
‘Behold, My servant, whom I have chosen, in whom My soul is well pleased.’ (Matt 12:18) Since Jesus is God’s servant, Jesus can not be God.

Finally you said that Jesus died, but God cannot die
The Bible teaches that Jesus died. God cannot die. Romans 1:23 and other verses say that God is immortal. Immortal means, ‘not subject to death.’ This term applies only to God.

Oya, take am! #singing: "Oga dis one is for u o"!

Vecto:
They're saviours and that's what matters. I'm not comparing them with Jesus. I'm simply pointing out the error in employing that line of reasoning.

Wat line of reasoning again. Abeg I go chop. The food over sweet me, I com forget that line of reasoning wey u dey talk about

lestat:
You raised no point just said alot but ended up saying nothing.

This was either a murder or a suicide the evidence pints towards a murder even the son of God said fatehr forgive them for they know not what they do!!

If this suicide was supposed to be what was there to forgive ?

It makes no sense as your argument pints to God the Father being a confused God that contradicts himself which he is not !!?

1. If he wanted someone to do for another sin then suicide would.not be a sin

At the highlighted:
If in their thoughts, they believed they were overpowering or killing him, whereas, the scriptures was being fulfilled, wld u den say they really knew wat they were doing? Besides, in Matthew 5:44, didn't Jesus say pray for our enemies? Wr his killers not also part of those he came to die for?
2. Exodus 21:23 clearly points out God's view of life. Therefore, if Jesus took his own life, it wld be a suicide. Take note in Luke 22:41-44, we see that Jesus became worried about the idea of suffering death. That is clearly not a suicidal disposition. however, ur understanding of this fact, wld be complete if u understood God's purpose for man. Now kindly point out how I painted God as a confused being.

alBHAGDADI:
You just keep saying trash. Why do you think satan can't tempt God? The same satan that has been opposing God?

He can tempt but he can't succeed.

Does he oppose God b tempting him? The guy said "tempt". Why are u flying off the handle? Simply restrict ur answer to his assertion, in the manner a rational person wld do

Vecto:
This is special pleading. Using proof texting, I can simply deify a bunch of folks in the scripture simply because they share the same title with God.
You realize the bible says God is the only saviour but there are other verses in scriptures where God raises other humans as saviours to accomplish his will.

What type of saviours wr they? Saviours from sin or from the general dangers and pitfalls of life? That they were so named or so described did not mean they were not not same capacity with Jesus, as shown in Acts 4:12.

stephleena:
Judas,is never a hero..but rather the seed of the serpent..now take a look @Genesis chapter 3:15.
I will put enmity between thy seed and the seed of the woman, it shall bruise thy head and thou shall bruise his heel..
The seed of the woman,eve was Jesus christ,and for that prophecy to come to pass,the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent,(Judas)came into a final contest..though he disguised himself, but was later brought to light, in the book of john,chapter 13:vs 37.
and we all know,the seed of the woman ,Jesus triumphed,which has brought us all to grace
the serpent is always a traitor, and shall continue to be,he's always cunny and never straight,so are his seeds.. Judas the seed,is a traitor.
quite unfortunate most Christians don't understand the bible to the in depth part of it..and that's why we have so many misinterpretation of the word.. May God help us.

I love ur points. However, if u say Jesus was a seed of Eve, wldnt that mean dat Jesus was born in sin, in accordance with Romans 5:12? God forbid!
Revelation 12:1-6, tells of the woman who gave birth to a child. That child is Jesus Christ, but the woman is not Mary, because Revelation 1:1 tells us that John saw things (visions) that were to take place shortly (in the future) and Jesus Christ had already been born, died a had ascended back to heaven. The woman represented a figurative expression of God's arrangement of a heavenly government/kingdom which has Jesus Christ as it's ruler, as was foretold in Dan. 2:44 and Dan. 7:13-14.

lestat:
I have asked several pastors this question, if indeed the son of God came to commit suicide then Judas act was not one of betrayal but fulfilment meaning he didn't commit a crime hence the guilt and his suicide wasn't necessary. He should be a saint then? Why then did Lord Jesus say father forgive them for they know not what they do? Why ask for forgiveness for mankind when indeed they fulfilled the prophesized suicide ?

Revelation 17:17 reveals a personality of God. Which is: his ability to achieve his purpose by using u, in whatever capacity u represent or whatever u stand for. In the minds of the Jews, they thought th had overpowered Jesus Christ, but in reality, God's purpose was being fulfilled. Mathew 2:3-8 reveals that becos of wat herod chose to stand for, the prophecy that Jesus was called out of Egypt became fulfilled in verse 15.
So yes, God sent sent son to die for mankind, but why was it not the Apostles that killed him? They stood on the part of supporting God's arrangement but the oda Jews who killed him stood against him and God's purpose was fulfilled at their hands. In Luke 22:22, Jesus said that he has come to die for us, woe to the person by whose hand he (Jesus) is betrayed.

Liliyann:
Nonsense!!
Horse that she can always ride on
Your wedding is a special day,everything you do that day must be special!!
On my day, I will use private jet!
I can't start my marriage with suffering!!!

NwaAmaikpe wannabe

Vecto:
God shares titles with men. I can mention at least three people in the bible who are designated with the title "King of kings".

Those person described as "king of kings" are world powers. American government today is one of such. They have strong authority and power to demote, suppress or even destroy oda kings (rulers). Daniel 2:37 clearly describes Nebuchadnezer as such. Besides, sharing title with anoda does not amount to having the same authority as dat oda

Pls read Matthew 4:10

mikejj:
did i say it was written in the story..

That's how u ppl behave anyhow like buhari and his co cows, twisting simple tinz up and dan

Abeg, make una show me wr dem Bury am put. . Want to goan look at the grave and come back home

evanjoo:
There is no way you can get kobo from anybody's account with BVN so what is the essence of the test when I am 100 per sure it is not possible. You can only confuse ignorant ones. Come to think of it, you think that if BVN can be used in withdrawal there will common code to check BVN on phone.

U go gree give me ur own b4 I woze u now!

mikejj:
some whomen wil leave the man saying he is impotent.

So u mean it's the man's fault they remained childless abi? Abeg wr e dey for the story?

GeniusHawlah:
My question is "how did it happen?"
Aláàfin sent it through wave (wireless) or physical contact (wired connection)

If we can plainly explain those things behind their "jujus", Africans too can be investing you know.


What happened to that poor man could just be lil portion of dog rabies in his food.

I dont care whatever it is sha, they should explain or keep the secret! If technology was hidden we would say it is juju. Iranu!

Dem dey chop rabies ni?

mikejj:
27 years.love is good.but these type of women are scarce.

Did u mean to say "men"?

evanjoo:
It is not possible. You cannot get any money from his Account with his BVN. Pls go to your banks they will guide on securities you need for you Account. BVN is just like ID card for bank Account number and cannot be use for any money transaction.

Edakun, why are u talking plenty nau? Just gimme the tin na

partnerbiz4:
So if I give you my bvn now you will access my account?
use your senses.

Oya gimme na. Les see weda u no go cry. Na den u go know say Edo boys na Einstein.

evanjoo:
I do not need to ask, I am simply saying there is no case there. BVN cannot be used to transfer or withdraw money. MTM has no case about her cleared from her account and Lawyer can take such case after studying it. It is between her and her bank if she is sure she did not compromise her password or pin. Her bank will review the avenue through which the money was transferred. If it is customer induced then her pin was comprised. If it is bank induced then bank is liable. Nothing concern MTN with bank account cleared. You can verify that.

I'm doing dat. Iv done that and it still says green, not red as u allege

Mobilia:
Ok...cause it seemed like you got a little upset...

Just saw dis online. Chai! Devil don do many of us take

Mobilia:
Ok...cause it seemed like you got a little upset...

Nah...knowledge is power and I don't underestimate it at all. I got it clear as to why eggs feature in Easter. Cldnt figure Jesus laying an egg on his death or resurrection.

evanjoo:
I am wondering the kind of Lawyer that will take such no case. I bet you the case is dead on arrival because BVN cannot be used to withdraw money or transfer money from Account. BVN is just identification code that unite individual's accounts in all banks. It is not used for authorisation of any form of transaction whether transfer or withdrawal.

Ask properly bro. Ask again. Then ask again. Keep asking. Ok?

Mobilia:
So what do you hope to achieve by doing this thread sir?

Just saw a comment on Easter egg and wanted to know wat it was all about.

Mobilia:
Well with all of this being said, the info can be put out there, folks can pray and ask the Holy Spirit to give them wisdom and understanding...if they want to know.
I'm not sure that debating the situation really and truly helps.
There is still however, cause to honor Christ' resurrection...(regardless of that other part).

Nobody needs any understanding from any Holy Spirit. The bible is very clear. It's not a matter of debate. Luk 22:19 is very clear as to wat we shld observe. Jesus Christ specifically instructed that we commemorate his death, by re enacting the breaking of the bread and the drink. Although there are certain restrictions on who eats the bread or drinks the wine. Have u ever asked urself why the churches never do dis. Holy communion is not it, if we are to be strict about observing the scriptures, after all, Easter isn't celebrated every day, the way , communion is taken on on regular basis. Observing Luke 22:19 is to be d same way we observe anniversaries. Anniversaries are not everyday ceremonies. It's shocking how we do not perform memorials on the anniversary of Jesus death, the date of which we know and which he commanded us to commemorate, but we choose to celebrate his resurrection in a very twisted way, which he never instructed.
The devil is playing tricks on us.

A bank issues the BVN code to a customer. It is therefore wrong to have a general code to check up one's BVN. Any phone thief cld as well type that code in a stolen phone/sim card and out comes the BVN: invoked by a fake priest. Besides, MTN is very much liable here. All she needs is to get a court order quietly, seeking the records of her call to the customer agent, without telling MTN sh1t. Then she proceed to court to seek the exact amount as special damages from mtn and then more a general damage. It's simple: if the line had been blocked, the BVN code wldnt have been accessed. Ah swear mtn go chop kpomo my hand, for this kain ish

Mutemenot:
Even bakery never get that kind bill bro.

. Abi dem think say u dey do pure water ni?

Mutemenot:
Me wey them billed 200k for 3 months. I dey wonder if I dey produce rod for house to warrant such bill.

Maybe dem mistake ur house for bakery

Mobilia:
People do a whole lot of things based out of ignorance...so I have to be sympathetic in that regard.
They simply don't know....
However, they also don't research things either...which is their responsibility.
There's no point in exchanging eggs...it has "0" to do with Christ' resurrection.
When I was young, I couldn't wait for my Easter basket filled with all types of candy....and guess what?
Real dyed eggs which I could eat! We also got to dye the eggs in any color we wanted!
I loved it so much! I also participated in lots of Easter egg hunts....
But u know, when one gets older and learns the truth, then he/she needs to adjust to that truth.
Can't be ignorant anymore.....

Many of us are too choked with the need to funkify Christianity, we are blinded to obvious facts. Nowhere in the Holy bible is Easter regarded as a form of celebration among Christians. In fact, it wasn't until not long ago that It was incorporated into Christianity and it regarded at first, with suspicion by the puritans in England.

I think I've met this guy someplace in the FCT. His face kinda rings a bell. May be just a coincidence tho