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Eya. But why does she feel the man is smiling down at her? Is it biblical to think so? Ecclesiastics 9:5 & 6 says "for the living know that they wld die but the dead know nothing at all ....... also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished.....".

Sori dear. Celebrating Valentine is scripturally wrong. I wld show u dat

frosbel2:
Wife beater detected !!!

Unmarriageable fellow, detected

Culin:
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You should be looking for the school fees your parents spent in sending you to school. You need to return it to them.

Edakun hep me find am na. Akant find it. Iyaf loss o!

Culin:
You still don't get? Mehn you're really a slow punk. There's a difference between faith and fate, I was talking about fate. That makes the first statement in my first comment sarcasm. So in all, what I've said is, those people didn't die because God hated them, but it was just their fate. I hope you get it now.

U put "faith" there just now. I didn't. I asked a simple kweshon: "what is fate"? U became confused and spewed avoidable and diversionary responses and practically walked up a wall over a simple kweshon of "wat is fate". Anyway Le'me goan look for Mairuwa fes

dkronicle:
that's good.

Just negodu ppl papa

Culin:
Abeg what is this one saying? Seriously what's wrong with people these days? Did you even read what I wrote? Or you just commented because you felt you just had to type something. You're probably going through some emotional stress, I don't want to believe you're so dumb not to understand what I wrote.

So in all, wat have u said? Nada. Typical of ur ilk.

grandstar:
They were just unfortunate (Read Ecclesiastes 9:11-12). God is not to blame ( Read Job 34:10)

The lady who survived is not better than the ones who died (Read Luke 13:1-5)

Yauwa!

Culin:
I guess God hated the others who died. People forget there's something called fate.

Wats fate? I think ur answer wld be gibberish. My dear, just as she missed the flight, same way she misses oda ish. She may have been emotionally unstable, or in a hurry, so much dat she forgot her wallet. In fact, she may have been over sexed, the night b4. So tell me: wr does God come in here?

alBHAGDADI:
I never admitted that you preach in those countries. Read my post again. How can you boldly preach from house to house in countries where you are afraid of building kingdom halls? Don't you think the thing you are scared of will still get you especially when you go from house to house?

So according to u, preaching discreetly, means house to house?

thunder74:
Animals everywhere..

Python dances in the East and South
Crocodile smiles in the west
Cows roam in Benue and Taraba (North)
Snake swallows in Markurdi

Who says Nigeria is not a zoo? Abeg where animal reigns?

Okokokoooko! Laffing in isoko.

alBHAGDADI:
You claim there are no Kingdom halls in those places cos JW fear they will be burnt, but preaching takes place there. How can the JW style of house to house preaching take place in a country that doesn't want to hear the gospel and are eager to burn Churches and Christians? The questions i, how many JW kingdom halls have been burnt in those places? Why should the cost of building again bother you when you boast of being 8 million JW? Will the provision of the money be too hard for your 8 million members?

Every place where the Apostles were killed today, you will find that those places still have Churches standing. If the other disciples were to reason like JW, Christianity won't have had a solid footing there. Paul was killed in Rome, today Christianity abounds there.

Just admit that the only presence you have in hostile countries is an online presence. And do give credit to those who endure it all and are actually on ground despite persecution to ensure Christianity is established in hostile grounds.

The

Since u now admit that preaching work goes on in doz countries, the only issue u have is d supposed failure to establish a church in doz places, shebi? Well, I guess preaching being the crux of d means of spreading the gospel is the underlying ish. That being so, ur grouse is neither here nor there. This is because there are a whole lot of churches with just one building. No other branch anywhere. E.g SCAN, Word of life bible church (the Omo Jesus piece pastor), etc. Their failure to establish a branch in neighbouring cities which are very accommodating has no root in fear of losing their buildings to hostility.
Like I said b4, which I believe u failed to see, probably due to too much huffing and puffing, there is onland preaching in doz places o! Hear word o! Only that it is discreet o!

Toks2008:
Then it was never love but they probably thought it was.

Except a case where they found out they are family members but any other reason is a facade.

U never see. Who no go, no know. Just pray dat u don't see sha.

RuthDaniels:
No!

Sometimes we leave those we love because letting them go is the only way to prove we love them.


If you have never being in love with someone who finds happiness in another, you may never understand me.

[b]If you haven't been in love with someone whom your presence in their lives will only give them pains, you may find me crazy

There is always someone in a person's life whom they love but can't be with. [/b]

BankeSmalls:
I will vote for him to continue as president, una think say na only una sabi wickedness

Bubu till 2089 jare

U no dey sleep ni

alBHAGDADI:
Having a website that those hostile countries can access doesn't equate to you being on ground. Apostle Paul had no website, yet he approached difficult terrains to preach.

You claim JW are in every country except 3. Pls, give us addresses of their kingdom halls, especially in saudi arabia and pakistan. You claim you don't want your kingdom hall burnt that's why you don't go there. Do you know the amount of Churches that get burnt in the middle east all the time, especially during Christian festive periods? Has that stopped those Christians from building more?

I think the central point must not be missed by even the blind in dis forum. Wats the center point of building a church? In order for ppl to congregate. That is completely different from preaching or spreading the good news. Now if dat can be done, without the risk of burning down a church, why be the foolish one, den? Wat did Jesus say about the modality of preaching? Matthew 10:11 say "into wateva city u enter, search out deserving ones and stay (which is equivalent to build) there until u leave". Matthew 10:14 then says "wherever anyone does not receive u or listen to ur words, on going out of that house or city, shake the dust off ur feet". Jesus didn't say "stay there and manage the place".
D Apostles whom u claim to know so much about, did dis in Pisidian Antioch. There is a difference between building a church (staying there after preaching and being accepted to establish a congregation) and preaching. If deserving ones happen to surface later on, wld u build a Kingdom Hall for just 5 ppl, wen u can conduct their bible study online? Dat a Kingdom Hall is not in these countries, doesn't mean preaching doesn't take place there. It does. However in snippets and in a very discreet way.

pauladonis:
Yes, it explains the issue of salvation vividly...

Chapter 8 summarizes it as... Hebrews 8:10-12 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjvstudybible.bible.kjv.bibleverses.bibleoff[b]

Yes, it explains the issue of salvation vividly...

Chapter 8 summarizes it as... Hebrews 8:10-12 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjvstudybible.bible.kjv.bibleverses.bibleoff[/b]

Yes, it explains the issue of salvation vividly...

Chapter 8 summarizes it as... Hebrews 8:10-12 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

chapter 7 also proves that Jesus is a priest after the order of Melchizedek FOREVER... A priest to whom even the Priesthood of the Levites paid Tithe.

Hebrews 7:11-17 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Melchizedek didn't receive Tithe from Abraham under any laws or commandments,
The Levites did, and Jesus came out from the tribe of Judah, (the tribe that didn't have anything to do with priesthood, but royalty just like Melchizedek) therefore, the death of Jesus Christ didn't abolish the paying of tithes. It only reinforces the need to pay it not as under any laws or commandments but as a matter of understanding and freewill.

I pray that you will understand all I have said and yield yourself to the blessings thereof.

Is dah so?

SoldierBoy1:
Yeah actually I didn't. Anyways sha have a great Sunday.

Just negodu. Read dat thing jor, before u "great Sunday" me. . Na so truth dey hard to see?

SoldierBoy1:
Bro you're going too far By asking if I feel uncorrectable. I said I don't understand cos I was talking about the leading of the Holy Spirit and you also wrote a Bible verse about the Holy Spirit teaching us all things. But the remaining part of ur previous mention made it seem like we Were not on the same page, so I said I didn't understand so as to clarify. Anyways Happy Sunday to you.

U see wat I wa saying? If u had read doz scriptures, u wld realise we are on the same page. But u didn't. Hence u felt that way. Sori, I didn't intend taking it far on t uncorrectable ish.

Rebuke:
Hahahahhah . No where Sir.

I will humbly suggest yhu read all the above quoted scripture yhur self again. And when yhu do dis time, reflect on dem very well.


I would simply ignored yhur mention bt jxt for d record, read my messg again.

Bro, if yhu think yhu have d rght to advise me to stop paying my tithe or anything contrary to paying my tithe to my local assembly then I certainly have d rght to tell yhu to gerreout or go hug a transformer.

Now, keep yhur judgement n condemnation coming.


Hypocrite! Yhur likes find it fun calling notable men of God all sort of names and insulting dem anyhow here bt find it a sin to say "go n hug transformer."


Read again, dis time in capital letters, if yhu are advising me nt to pay my tithe in my place of worship, GO AND HUG A LIVE TRANSFORMER!

Cus dahz datz jxt d best yhu can do n itz easier for yhu n yhur likes dan thinking yhur advise will stop me from paying my tithe.

Jxt as itz easier for a horse to pass thru d eyes of a niddle.....

Since u cldnt find wr I called certain preachers "all sorts of names", we can rightly say dat u are just being desperate to avoid scriptural truths. Besides, I wasn't advising u. Far from it! Lastly between u and me, who really is d hypocrite. Is it u manner of approach is very unbecoming of a true xtian (which u admitted) or I who just seek to point out bible based truths?

neutrotoba:
Jesus didn't state it, but it had been stated in Malachi 3:10. No verse of the bible exists in isolation, they're all interwoven.

Tithe belongs to God brother

In Malachi 3:10, it wasn't just anybody speaking, it was God himself! Which higher authority is there?

So u deliberately used a quotation that has no application to the issue?
Now on to Malachi-He was a prophet of God who sought to turn back the isrealites back to God. Hence throughout the 4 chapters of Malachi, he talked about several standards of God that had been breached by the isrealites. God spoke against offering blemished animals by priests (1:6-8, 14), stolen things used as offering (1:13), whimsical divorces (2:14-17), priests misleading the ppl (2:1-9), marrying foreigners and their gods(2:11), making sacrifices and doing evil (2:12) and finally, 3:10- the breach of the priesthood arrangements originally contained in Numbers 18:20-24, 28; Deuteronomy 12:3, for the welfare of the priests. These composite issues were all that the book of malachi is about and as u said, no part of the scriptures is isolated. They are interwoven. Malachi represented God's reminder to the isrealites of their departure from his standards and abandonment of their duties to the priest's sustenance. Now in the face of Malachi 1:6-8, 14, wld u take that scripture d same way u take 3:10? More particularly wen we consider Hebrews 7:12 (u shld read it)? The answer is no.

kistone:
dat is a lie

Edakun, I'm still waiting for ur answer. If u don't find the answers, isn't it time u raised questions on ur tithe-based belief?

neutrotoba:
You bursted no bubble.

Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar (taxes)
Give unto God what belongs to God (tithe)

Is dat the contextual meaning of that scripture? Was it tithe or tax that was in issue? Did Jesus say the things we shld give to God is tithe in dat scripture or any oda scripture?

agabusta:
You are joking with your last statement right? The orders of the court stands unless overturned by a higher court.

The argument of a counsel is not a court judgment. You are making it sound as one.

As at the time the counsel was making the argument, there was no order from the court. The order was made after the counsel's argument was discountenanced by the court. The issue was the absence of the defendant in the face of a criminal charge. If the order was made before counsel's argument, wldnt it be absurd? Yes it wld, as counsel wld be asking the court to sit on appeal over its own decision/order.

SoldierBoy1:
Sorry I don't understand, are u correcting me, I don't get ur message properly. I would need clarification

On wat exactly? Wat don't get clear? Do u feel uncorrectable?

Rebuke:
I stand with yhu brother! I must pay my tithe.

Paying my tithe is my duty, what my pastor does with it is between him n my God.


If because yhu sense or feel d government might misuse tax n refuse to pay yhur tax I am sure yhu knw d consequence.

Anyone who advises me not to pay my tithe or give it in any different way other dan to the ministry where I am spiritually fed, such person isn't even fit to advise me in d first place, so let he/she gerreout.....let them go n hug a live transformer.

Show me anywhere in the scriptures wr Jesus or the Apostles said we shld go an hug transformer. 1 Peter 3:15 regulates how we shld reply persons who confront us, demanding an explanation for our beliefs. Using the bible as a yardstick, Ur response clearly confirms wat Jesus said in Matthew 7:16 that "by their fruits u will recognise dem and dat figs and grapes do not come from thorns and thistles". Wen the bible is no longer necessary for forming our beliefs or opinions, stories become the basis of our beliefs and opinions. 2 Timothy 4:4 "and they wld abandon the truth and give attention to false stories".
Cc Kistone

pauladonis:
Not to argue, but Melchizedek received Tithe as a king and priest... A priesthood that Jesus's priesthood resembles.

If the issue of tithe was insignificant, it won't have been mentioned.

The only resemblance Jesus had with melchizedek that melchizedek was both a priest and a king, just as Jesus is both our high priest and King-Hebrews 7:15-17. If u read downwards, u wld discover that at verse 18 and 19, I tells me that the former covenant was set aside because it is weak and ineffective as it made nothing perfect.
I believe that explains it now.
Cc Kistone Pauladonis

SoldierBoy1:
All this controversy about tithe sef, most Christians need to check their own personal life with God,If they're confused if tithing is right or wrong .As a Christian, you should have the Holy Spirit in you and he should be the one to guide u in all you do. So instead of listening to what freeze has to say, go straight to the Holy Spirit and ask him to lead you .Also some say they're no more paying cos of their Pastor's life, if truly you are a Christian with the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, in the first place you won't be in a wrong church not to talk of paying ur tithe there.

What is the function of the Holy Spirit? In John 14:26, Jesus state that his function is to "teach u all things".
How u he teach u wen u distance urself from studying the bible? Read ur bible. In fact, read Hebrews 7:12.

neutrotoba:
Matthew 22:21, how about that? God bless you

Sori to burst ur bubble. That scripture u just cited deals with payment of taxes. An act of respect to the governmental authority. Paul, in his message to the Roman Christians implored them to respect the authority. See Romans 13:1-7. The situation that led to the scriptures u cited was that the Pharisees challenged Jesus Christ as to weda it was proper to pay taxes.
If 2 Timothy 3:16 is the basis for our reliance of the scriptures for our daily life, then that scripture u cited wld not apply to the issue afoot. Rather, it wld be a wrong application and I think a "deliberate misuse" is the proper description of ur use of that scripture.
This is the reason Paul said in 2 Timothy 3:7 "always learning, but never able to come to an accurate Knowledge of truth".

rottennaija:
Bros, make goggle your friends. I once ask the circuit oversear those questions and he couldn't answer. Because all watchtower feeds them is that it's only JWs that are suffering in those lands.

Make goggle your friend. Those countries you have listed, find out how other Christians religious groups are fairing

Are u asking me to help u do ur work for u? It's just the same way u guys blame God for tragic events, expecting God to stop the events, despite the fact that the world is under the control of the devil and it was the devil who challenged God's ryt to rule man and control man's affairs. Wld u then expect God not to vindicate his name, by allowing time and events to prove the devil wrong? Is God not already Vindicating his name, now that we have seen that no amount of the force of law can change man and solve man's problems?
Why then are u not supplying proof to ur own assertions? Why asking me to help ur cause?
So I ask again: why are u not mentioning the oda banned churches na.

rottennaija:
Is it only jw kingdom halls that are burnt down? Are churches not burnt down too? Are Christians not persecuted in those countries? Are they not in prison for their believes? Are they not also ban in Russia?

Why don't u just name the oda churches na.

tonyimadu:
this is so unfair. What is wrong with Christians. We go online to discredit another church.
The propose of the post was simply to discredit the missionary efforts of JW. Its wicked and unnecessary.
If the JW are breaking the Lord's commandments that's a different matter. But we start a trend that encourages stupid debate. What is wrong with us.
Now its make it a private matter. let everyone ask himself, how well am I doing in preaching the gospel. What sacrifice have I made for the kingdom. Do I give my time, my recourse and my all to the furtherance of the gospel? if not I have failed indeed

Help me tell dem o