Moneywomen17: shut ur mouth I want to know if the guy is Yoruba or not or just a sango follower. U are a big fool google is at the tip of ur finger and u can’t still google Jakuta. If anybody is stupid here it’s u davidnaze
mugu, you that is talking are you a sango follower? talk true
King Sango stop your lies.. Sango hanged himself out of frustration.. but actually there's talk that he didnt really hang himself but was executed by you know who..
KingSango: Sango never die. The Alaafin didn't become Sango until after his death so Sango can never die! All Afrikans kings that were defied from Pharaohs to Kabakas, to Alaafins, etc, were deified after death. You can't kill a God you fool.
I am not backing up Yoruba or Edo. I called for this nonsense to end several posts ago. What's the beef about? You are not the Oba of Benin? You are not of the royal family so what's it to you?
So when the Alaafin was alive he wasn't known as Sango? what was his name? I thought you Yoruba said he had mystical powers and could draw down fire from the sky? abi all that na lie too? I'm an Edo warrior, born a warrior to defend my people anytime..
Moneywomen17: if u can post this “historical archives” of the Deji of Akure being beheaded by Benin I will post a “historical archives” of ur Benin chief being beheaded and their wife being taken by ogedengbe hell I will post a screenshot of ur oba lying down being flogged by him too ok davidnaze. And I don’t need no write up or screenshot post the source u are reading the story from. History is waiting for ur descendants to know u never had a kingdom but a village where pepper was traded and Yoruba man was ur ruling class. Yoruba master and Benin is conquered fact
shut up there.. as if you and your yoruba brothers don't know the Deji was executed by Benin for messing up.. I don't need to even discuss what you already know with you.. unless u are a dummy. It should even be shameful to you yorubas that the execution took place towards the end of the 1800s.. that was a time when everyone was getting more civilized and developed.. but yet at that time yoruba was still under Benin Kingdom..
KingSango: Lies cause damage. Yet in trying to undo the lies you may be feeding into negativity that's the trap. People who need lies to keep them alive are weak people, if that is the case and not some confused Edo historian.
Finally you don show your real self lol.. I knew your preaching of tolerance was a charade. only when you are high and think you are seeing and reasoning with the gods you preach oneness but when your high don clear you show that you are not different from your deluded yoruba brothers lol.. no worry I go soon do some research on how your god Sango met his death and believe me it will be heart breaking for u.
Anyways the only people who are lying just to feel alive and important is your brothers.
KingSango: As long as you are talking Oba of Benin ruling over Itsekiris not Oyo and Ife.
Small groups can come under the rulership of another more powerful group, what's the harm in this? There was no slavery like chattel slavery European inflicted upon Afrikans in the West. What are you guys beefing about? Ancient Nigerian history that none of you lived and none of your grandparents. All this stuff is so long, long, long ago. Who cares? Benin is a great empire yet so is Oyo, Dahomey and Fulani. I don't get the back and forth, that's woman behavior yet I don't see the women partaking in such wasteful use of energy only men.
Ase
Love Sango
It’s your Yoruba brethrens that refuse to acknowledge that Benin was a great and mighty Empire.. Benin didn’t rule over Ife, nor did it rule over Oyo. But Benin ruled over most of Eastern Yoruba and shared boundaries with Oyo kingdom.. Benin also saw the birth of Oyo and the end too.. Benin was the only independent African kingdom till the end of the 19th century when it was subdued by the British forces.. As for slavery Benin didn’t engage in slavery but Oyo was the master of slavery selling almost all Yorubas in its territory into slavery.. Benin was a great Kingdom that survived time while others fell it stood..
KingSango: The ruler of Itsekiris not Oyo and from what I gather the Benin King wasn't ruler of Ife either. So what's your point?
King Sango what are you talking about? Did I say ruler of Ife when the Europeans came was the Oba of Benin? The ruler of the Itsekiris was the Oba of Benin and till today He still is the Overlord in that region.
Obalufon: after they circum navigated the whole African bight of benin was born from source from Portuguese explorer record accounting giving by Portuguese explorer even dahomey togo ghana bony was called bight of benin . because the map of africa was created from Portuguese source and the first hinter land contact Portuguese will have is with the benin kingdom creating the map they name the region gulf of benin
I'm thinking you secretly yearn for knowledge so I will freely educate you a little on this before I go back to tormenting you.
Prior to visiting Western Africa the Europeans had been in contact with North Africans and Arabs and it was from them they heard about a people/culture (and great kingdoms) existing in tropical (rain forest) West Africa. The Portuguese explorers got permission from their King to navigate and chart the unknown African region. So starting from North Africa coast the explorers sailed along the coastal line of Africa to the West and finally they arrived at Benin Kingdom. Benin Kingdom was the first place they landed in the area now known as Nigeria. and FYI trading didnt immediately begin when they landed. When they came they met the Itsekiris who were living closest to where their ship docked, and as normal with every visit to a new place they inquired who their ruler was.. The Itsekiris directed them to their capital Benin City where the great King resides.. and the rest is history.
BabaRamota1980: I ask for name of Ekaladheran's deranged popsy's name, not for SARS. .
Whats name of your ogiso whose chiefs bleeped his queen?
If you want the name of Ekhaladeran’s father it is Ogiso Owodo.. now type your deranged story let me see and I will counter it with another true accounts of the beheading of your Yoruba Ewi in Ekiti.. my true accounts versus your deranged and frustrated feel good stories.. I’m gonna torture you and your fellow Yorubas till u start avoiding me like ur brother marcof is running from me..
BabaRamota1980: hhhemm, i cant recall right away. Hold on...
Hey Edos...umubiafrans..., Whats Ekaladheran popsy's name? The deranged Ogiso that killed his son so he can be blessed with more. What's his name? Ogiso what??
Do you know how the Yoruba Deji of Akure was beheaded by the Benin police in the mid 18th century? I will tell you because I like telling you things u don’t know.
After the Deji messed up, Benin special police (equivalent of SARS now) was dispatched to bring his head.. Benin didn’t have to fight a war to execute the Deji, yorubas was too weak and in fear of mighty Benin.. our police simply walked into Deji palace dragged him out into the street and took of his head while the Yorubas were just looking and wailing.. This account is stored in historical archives waiting for your future generations to read and judge who is master and who is the conquered..
Obalufon: you were trading in pepper what year ...you were the last to be contacted stop spurting rubbish bight of Benin is different from benin city fool the Portuguese were in contact with Lagos Badagry years before stepping foot on benin soil they get to know about benin from the itsekiri..hinter land was in the 1500
trading started in the 1500 at it peak 1550
Mugu mugu.. where did the name Bight of Benin come from? Oh so the name Bight of Benin existed before Benin was discovered by the Europeans? Chai!! If you mugus are Yoruba champions then we Edos are a superior race to you.
Obalufon: Lagos was in contact with Portuguese by Prince Henry the Navigator before benin , Portuguese heard of benin from the itskeiris i doubt if João Afonso de Aveiromade made it to benin
Portuguese had a port in Lagos " named lagos by them" strategic point for their navigation and exploration i doubt if they would assist you mongrels in destroying Lagos
I will assume that you and your fellows here are representing the Yoruba race and as such I feel sorry for Yoruba people. A people so cowardly and deluded with no pride trying to distort history just to feel good. Other tribes read the same documents we read and also knows African history.. they will be laughing at you yorubas at your desperate attempt to change what’s documented down. If you like tell your children to write in exams that Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin, Na failure and repeat go be their portion lol.
As I said earlier, your future generations will come to read history as it was documented, “Great Benin conquered and rule vast parts of Yoruba lands”.. History and documents awaits them.
Obalufon: 15 century is 1400 1500 they explore hinterland ,they were navigating the coastal region the late 15 century 1400 .before exploring the hinterland after they had already circum navigated Africa their main expectoration was to trade with indian if they had contacted the benin in 1484 so you were ruling Lagos 1400..when the first lagos king was in 1600 right ..you are a clone ..
If the Portuguese got to Lagos before Benin but yet when they got to Benin they documented Benin was ruling everywhere, from Niger to Lagos.. so probably it’s the Aworis you say they Portuguese met that told them Benin was the lord. Your brain must be scratching you.
Obalufon: ouch you said 14 century ...Christopher Columbus was born Before or after 31 October 1451.. Europe made contact with Africa in the 1500s please and Benin around 1550
Vasco da Gama was born on1460 or 1469 Sines, Alentejo, Kingdom of Portugal
Mugu you don quick go check google for Columbus date of birth lol. U are a real dumbass.. Europeans first reach Benin in 1485.. u for check google for that one too instead of lying..
Obalufon: read basic west Africa history atleast you will have basic knowledge of history you are talking base on sentiments nothing more .,.you are genetically backward people in comparison to yoruba race is a known fact accept it or not "the fact are out their" ..you people have beast like troublesome behavior with no cognitive capacity it shows way of life also in your ancient art work savage heads with fearsome look
...ibadan fulani war 1840 5yrs after ilorin was taken by the Muslim yorubas with the help of fulanis scholars oyo lost it prestigious northern city ilorin without cavalry northern garrison oyo is useless, after their victory capturing ilorin they tried to expand their territory over other cities in yoruba..Ibadan smoked them out with punitive fire of guns at it's knife savvy swords men .if other yoruba nations had accepted Ibadan ruler ship they would have chased the Muslim out of ilorin.. ilorin and ekiti connive to fight Ibadan because of its growing strength and military might also to the south was incursion of egbas and ijebu were also fighting Ibadan
You can lie!! anyways it’s okay to try feel good, u need am.. the Fulanis conquered the northern Yoruba, Benin Kingdom conquered the eastern Yoruba and Dahomey conquered the western Yoruba.. if these great conquerors had imposed their languages on their conquered territories the Yoruba language would have been extinct by now. Na God save una.
Obalufon: if you don't stop this bullshit you will hexed for life ..why would compare primitive skirt wearing forest people to ijebu Benin lil city ruling ruling ijebu " you are a bastard " a well orginized people as ijebu ..Benin navy benin navy my ass where is your sea ? ..you na fit swim.. you na get river self not to talk of sea ..ijebu is water borne..ijebu water side haven't you heard of it ...epe in lagos taste is ijebu
See mumu wey don get plenty heart attack lol. Ijebu was under Benin Kingdom. Go read ur history books again. First port in Nigeria was in Benin Kingdom.. Abi na Oyo or Yoruba lands the Portuguese pass enter West Africa? Our navy always ferried our troops whenever they were going for war.. Our armies was the most organized and disciplined in West Africa.. even British confessed the Benin-British war was their hardest in West Africa.
ib0221: I think we can come together to establish a center or foundation for the purpose of research and dissemination of information. I would be glad if we can achieve this. A caveat at this juncture is justified- I don't live, preach and support incivility, tribalism/tribal jingoism, vituperation and hatred. Please my eminent persons- Olu317, KingSango, Obalufon, BabaRamota1980, Metaphysical, moneywomen, even davidnazee and the rest I can't remember now, let work for our generation unborn.
True talk.. I was expecting the Yorubas to be like the Igbos who accepts the past the way it is and promotes and touts their present, and work for a better future.. but they choose to distort the past for reasons I still cannot understand. Is it shame or pride? I do not know. Anyways my Kingdom lives on forever.. even in defeat to the British we have not lost our pride or our Kingdom.
Olu317: It was Edo revisionism that made it messy . It became imperative not to ignore the lies being peddled everywhere online and almost turning to seemingly acceptable by readers, who don't have knowledge of Bini and Yoruba linked history. The truth is that ,Yoruba wouldn't have had anything to do with Igodomigodo, if it wasn't the Uzamas, that went to ILE IFE to ask for help ,so that Udo, won't be ungovernable. Udo,account did mentioned that the last administrator,who was linked to Ogiamein, wanted his son to take over the ruling of Udo but the groups that formed Edo refused,which was the reason, the Uzamas seek help from ILE IFE. This happened after, Owodo had died and Ekerlehadan chased to Ughotan,simply because, the kingly pattern in Edo wasn't based on dynasty at first but Owodo ancestor had about five–eight lineage that ruled before Ekerheladan was banished(Dmitri Bondarenko, Connah et al ) and thereafter ,[b]help was seek from a dynasty that was organized under a king that had Kings kings under him. [/b]Secondly, Oranmiyan's father wasn't on the throne ,when Uzamas visited ILE IFE to ask for help,which simply mean the people that fabled a story of seeing Ooni Olofin( Odua) ,was a big fat lie. Thirdly, The ritual for a king to ascend to the throne as a King are different and some words spoken were different from Yoruba dynasty. This simply showed, Yoruba are different from Udo people. Researches have been done by Jacob U. Egharevba,Ryder, Roese, Dmitri Bondarenko,connah,Ryder,shaw etc ,so need to do any more research again as regard, where the Oba Bini came from.Even, the issue of warring amongst Yorubas was always based on princes,who decided most time to set up a kingdom of his based on population. Again, some set up states that was helped to attain self glory who decides to back down on agreement also do lead to fracas,land do lead to fracas,amongst Yorubas. If you are conversant with Yoruba history, no group of IFE wearing princes that set up a kingdom that Oyo attacked, but instead,make them an ally. Kwarafas were the people Oyo fought for many years. And when Dahomey had problem with Asanté , Ketou/Ketu was the Yoruba group that was the link that made Yoruba Oyo to fight Asanté and defeated them in war. And Ibadan was the only reason Yoruba went to civil war because she tried to destroy, what had been built by Yoruba ancestors to sustain themselves. And I have stated here isn't native to Yoruba alone,because every ethnic group has such. Lastly, You are wrong because, travellers from Mahli Empire, mentioned ILE IFE in his account in 13th century. The reason , many people don't know this is because, Nigeria is an anglophone ,while most of these people who had mentioned Yoruba are in modern day francophone people.
In your write up u claim Ife was already a dynasty that had kings under it when Edo went to ask for the return of their prince. please which kings are you talking about? At that time only Ife existed in Yoruba land.. Yorubas with their lies, it never ends..
BabaRamota1980: In every political voting pattern since after the war Edo votes behind Yoruba. Till today whatever Yoruba vote, Edo follows behind.
There is a history behind that. Its what wise people call "lessons learnt".
What is the lesson?
The colonials recognized that Yoruba was a Supreme race to Edo. In their study, every race of people on the East of Yorubaland all way to the banks of Niger told their history and claimed Ife as their beginning, whether they made a stop-over in Benin or not before their current abode. So they were all put under Western Regional Government.
Edos have a streak for rebellion. This genetic is borne out of their love for chaos. We saw same thing in the analysis of ekaladheran that I gave two pages ago....where his Ogiso monster father condemned him to death, after the Ogiso's queen had used poussy to compromise the chiefs to disobey their king and the oracle of their land. Truly a classic case of tragedy. So the Ogiso's palace was in disarray, his society was in constant state of disorder....much so that the foreigner Oranmiyan had to tag them as the land of anger.
So, soon after Nigerian Independence Edos began their chaos and lobbied to be freed from the civilized and orderly society that supervised them. Its like swine and immaculate sorrounding dont coexist....Edo and organized society cannot cohabit.
They want their own region to be called Mid-Western region. Seeing a great opportunity in the demand, the Ibos met secretly and advised Zik to support Edos demand. They called a referendum and the Anioma Ibos voted gleefully to bring Western Ibo and Edo out from the watchful and protective eye of Yoruba.
1963, Edo got its wish in MidWest Region. Wahala come start. There is what is called "buyer's remorse". . That is you see a product that usually cost 5000 naira but someone is offering at 900 naira and you jump on the bargain. You got home opened the product and start to sweat. Make i no go further.
Oba of Benin could not speak up but he instantly recognized their new overlord in Anioma is worse than the one they just separated from. Zik conceded political powers in MidWest to the Anioma Ibos. Soon there was coup and followed shortly by war.
The long held in plans of the Ibos to bring Edoland under its domain unfolded. Their first act was to invade Edoland and planted the BIAFRAN flag. Then they went round the communities and spoke in Ibo to them asking the Edos...."have you started learning Ibo yet?"
Two days later Yorubas were there to rescue Edo from their Biafran conqueror.
Ever since.....Edo has been trying to return to Yoruba Commonwealth...we reject them. The most they do to show allegiance and loyalty is copy and lean politically towars us.
Recent new awakenings by Biafra has again jolted them. This is why in all of SS, Edo is the only APC. Biafra scares the shi.t out of them. The Ibos know this and periodically puts out a map of Biafra that includes Edo in it...to remind they are still coming after them.
If it was not for Yoruba fulani would have swept Edo into the bottom of the sea. I will bring fulani atrocity against Edo some other time. Let this lessons of their Biafran conquerors sink in first.
If not for Yoruba, Edo should by now be saying Chineke in place of Osanobua. Wetin be oviedo? They would be saying umubiafra instead.
Make i stop abeg....laughter dey make me roll for floor...
Ehhn, wetin be Ogiso...they should by now be offering kolanut to Igwe.
Lessons learnt.....but you cannot come back to the enviable Yoruba Commonwealth.
Great Edo join Yoruba on their knees worshipping Fulanis?? God forbid bad thing! You Yorubas are forever subjects of Fulanis on your knees serving them like your great Yoruba leader did..
BabaRamota1980: You finally got some sense to know there is a difference between civilized Bini and uncivilized Edo and that the separation line must remain distinct! We thank God! .
Now that you yourself can see the separation line....it will be less painful to you to accept a new dynasty.
Olu of Warri will be approached for an option to add Edo under his domain. Peru of Gelegele will be approached as well if he will be interested in adding Edo as a sub nation.
Get reafy for your third dynasty. Please, no HOAX this time.
Did u see me write “bini” or u think I’m a mugu like u? There’s nothing like bini in Edo. It’s moronic Yorubas like u that use that descriptive term.. Benin Kingdom was built by Edo people and Benin city is capital city of Edo people.. this is also in archives waiting for your future generations to read along with accounts of the countless Yoruba monarchs beheaded by the Edo people.
All these people will say one by one that they came from Bini and Bini came from Ife.
And that my friend does not change the truth that Benin Kingdom and Edo people conquered and ruled your race, the yoruba race.. History has been recorded in details and stored waiting for your future generations to read.
BabaRamota1980: We dont need to stick to the Yoruba position to prove our point.
We can bring the Itsekiri position and they will tell you Bini have roots in Ife.
We can bring the Ijaw position and they will tell your Bini have roots in Ife.
We can bring Ugbodu to talk,they will tell you Bini roots is in Ife.
We can ask all those to the West of you and they will all claim Bini have roots in Ife.
Even oyinbo came, saw and conquered, ask them, and they have written to conclude that Bini and all its sorrounding have roots in Ife.
Do you have anyone that can speak on your behalf to say Ife has roots in Edo? None but Edo has this story.
You have no witness. We can bring the whole world to witness for us.
All these people you called will tell you that they themselves came out of Benin.. Its only the current monarchy you lay claim to and say came from Ife, but the origin of that monarchy in Ife itself is from Edo.. and the whole world will tell you that too. Also the whole world will tell you that Yorubas are not indigenous to West Africa, you guys don't belong here.. Only God knows where you migrated from.
Anyways I will continue to stress this that; Benin Kingdom and Edo people's military conquest and ruler over Yoruba lands is fully documented and archived. You cannot change history.. Your future generations will read about it too, and their generations too.. They will read how a small group of Edo people organized themselves and built the mightiest kingdom and empire and led by a powerful King, a conquering lion, they conquered far and wide.. Conquered and subjugated the Yoruba race.. They will read how many Yoruba kingdoms crumbled before this mighty Benin Kingdom and how we established cities in your lands and set up monarchies for you. It is all stored in archives for your future generation to read. and if your future generations choose to act like you guys, deluded and denying history, Edo future generation will be there to torment them with the truth. So you see, there is no escaping from the truth.
Obalufon: 100yrs ? some is going bunkers here... nupe never ruled oyo you are sick
Mugu go ask your brothers about Nupe invasion of Oyo. Oyo no get levels.. Nupe ended the first Oyo Kingdom, chased away ur monarchy and ruled Oyo for 100yrs.. The Bariba were even the ones that helped set up the second Oyo which later died painfully..
Shut up.. which sense did ur senseless brother make? Ijebu was under Benin rule.. our soldiers were always ferried to Lagos by the ijaw edos.. they acted as navy. Keep deceiving yourselves and silently cursing your ancestors.. anytime you search archives you will always see Benin owns Lagos yet ur jealousy won’t let you accept that fact. Keep on fighting yourselves, those records and accounts will remain in archives forever and future Yoruba descendants will always read it that “Benin owns Lagos and Benin conquered and ruled Yoruba “..
Olu317: If I am his descendant,does it mean,am the only one?So,you are interested in your nonsense Edo history without fact. My ancestor's tradition is different from your bloody bush villages,that is based on Edionwere.....Trash
Liar like you.. you are not Oranmiyan descendant.. our bush villagers subjugated your people for hundreds of years till the British freed you. Shame on your people..
KingSango: Benin is married to Yoruba royalty and vice versa. Ancient Afrikans married along royal lines from neighboring kingdoms to promote the peace.
You mean economically the Benin came to power over the land not slavery and subjugation.
Different ethnic groups in Afrika had their shine at one time to the expense of another sometimes. No shame.
Ase
Love Sango
Thank you.. you the only Yoruba with some sense here.. however Great Benin Kingdom’s domination over the Yoruba was done by military.. We had Economic power too but our rule was by subjugation.. the slavery was carried out by Oyo.
Moneywomen17: my guy shut up there is no ife head in Benin or what are u talking about. What was dug up in benin palace is an artwork of the ooni not his actual head dumbass. But the actual head of ur king is buried in ife and why will it be dug our. The ooni point out very well to ur oba where they were buried when he visit ife. How far is Lagos to Benin and the awori went to Benin to ask for a king so did the Benin come to ife lying down begging for a king before oduduwa had mercy and sent one of son like how God sent one of his begotten son to the world. When oranmiyan got there saw what kind of people u are and saw that his Yoruba way does not tally with the bini way he took a Benin woman smash her had a son that his descendants will continue ruling u till today. Till today u worship almost every Yoruba gods like Shango, Ogun, osun and so many others the same way a conquered people should. Just like African worship their conqueror god Benin also worship Yoruba gods. We don’t any Benin food in eastern Yoruba is Shapa efo riro Benin food do u even know what shapa his. Benin eat our food not us. What Yoruba do u see wearing skirt like Benin we are men for god sake we don’t wear skirt at least for a long long time. Benin is just one of the lost people that ife birthed I know it hurts but accept it and stop crying now to Yoruba master men and respect ur Yoruba ruler in Benin we don dash u.
I have been searching articles just to find any that will say Yoruba or Oyo ruled Benin. But till now I haven’t seen any. Only found some that talked about Oyo’s conquest of Dahomey and mostly fellow Yorubas. Most of the articles discusses the tragic and painful death of weak Oyo. Died and never rose again. nothing about Oyo venturing near Benin territories.. but archived round the world is full of articles about Benin Kingdom and Edo people’s Conquest and rule of the Yorubas.. almost all Yoruba kingdoms in Eastern Yoruba lands fell to imperial Benin rule. Yorubas were the tribe Benin conquered most.. you guys was our footstool.
Fact: Imperial Benin expanded far into Yoruba Land, conquered and rule the people..
Olu317: shut the Bleep up. I am a patrilineal descendant of Oranmiyan. And a proud Father of a twin. I am an Orisa . Ifa testified to it.....Stop distorting my history.
If really you are son of Oranmiyan then you are descendant of the Edo race... and you are lost.
MetaPhysical: As told by your neighbors, the Ijaws....
Na lack of reasonable facts or missiles to use against me make u post this rubbish? I hate it when black people claim they descended from Arab nations or Egypt.. You are an idiot to post this nonsense.. even if Benin conquered and ruled your ancestors try to have pride in your race and black African heritage.. your other mumu brother moorish said Yorubas are the moors that conquered Spain and they are the Egyptians that built pyramids.. shameful
Moneywomen17: edo boys never u forget how ogedengbe was killing ur chiefs sacking ur town floging ur kings and taking ur women, Yoruba king rule over u and displace ur ogiamen, Yoruba priest are ur priest. Bini was conquered by Yoruba from the time of oranmiyan till the time they break free from western region. Edo are slave to not only their Yoruba master but ur igala master also flog bini too what a shame small edo abi u want me to post screen shot of Yoruba ruling u and igala sacking ur lands? Well u will have to wait am done on this thread for now we go see adios my boy.
Shut up.. there is no screenshots of that anywhere in the world.. but on the other hand I have hundreds of screenshots of Benin “hordes” (I like the word hordes, sounds terrifying) ravaging Eastern Yoruba..
Culture › Re: Oba Of Benin Visits Ooni Of Ife by davidnazee: 10:07pm On Jun 03, 2018
