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Image123:
Were they supposed to thank you instead? Don't be foolish if possible. It's like saying someone should not appreciate others for their successful projects, books and articles because others fail. Use your God given brain please.

So for other people to die in your place is a job well done by your god? Don't play stup!d bro and I mean this sincerely, how do you live believing these ridiculous things?

First I'd like to start by saying it's your right to express your beliefs and the same with others right to expressing their non-beliefs.

In Nigeria, there are a great many road accidents and they keep increasing in broadcast and yet the people who survive and the people who use the vehicles and roads continue "thanking god for safe journey and mercies".

I'd like to ask if you hold this view or any among them why you think all responsibility should be on god for your safety and you don't hold your government and their constituents accountable?

Do the people who die on the same road not worship the same god? Or is it better they died and not you?

Is it better if we all sit idle and so long as the rulers in charge don't kill us all with their incompetence in one way or the other continue "thanking god" hoping things would get better?

If your neighbour was burned in a gas explosion and you weren't does that make you happy? Do you feel content god didn't want that happening to you over your neighbor?

If god as you believed it gave you a choice for you dying so others may live(that you don't know) or they dying instead what would you pick?

Please feel free to share why you think god keeps selecting you over the safety of others, thanks.

elated177:
You think too highly of yourself and your position on the scale of reality. Actually, no one owes you any explanation. If you want to learn, you must beg, plead and implore.

Looooooool, I believe you're projecting yourself on me buddy. I'm not the one that believes I'm "gods" son like many religious believers.

The years of you pleading and imploring as a whole is no different than what those born before you did for their beliefs, You all think you're rightfor believing your holy books.

waldigit:
To start with let me let you be informed that God is no longer idea in the like of empirical evidence domain. I don't know wether you are familiar with science but if you are, please pay attention to works of inventors such as Necolas Tesla, Rodin and Gerald.
Surveillance cameras these days have captured evidences beyond reasonable doubt that non physical reality exist. NDE testimonies from humans who were clinically certified dead by credible medical records provided us with proofs. Many of them were renowned physicists, surgeons, and Atheist.
Space and aerospace technologies are providing shocking details of our universe confirming biblical truths. Get online and listen to testimonies of experts who were once unbelivers. One of them was an inventor of microchips.
Bible says and I agree that: Heavens declare the glory of God and firmament shows his handiwork. Day until day utters speach, night until night shows knowledge.
God is outside space and time, so He is not exactly like man, even though he created man in his own his image and likeness.
I am a science student and it has helped me to appreciate and love to know more about phenomenon of God.
The present age of AI has greatly helped by providing empirical confirmation of existence of God.
I appeal to you to give Jesus a trial and let him reveal God to you. This has nothing to do with religion.

You keep saying truth statements without saying how they relate to a being like you described existing.

What does it mean to be outside of space and time if that's the reference frame we have of grasping things? Isn't it contradictory to claim god is outside observable reality but then can(according to you and those believers) can interact with our universe?

Moreso, Should we ignore believers that also came to unbelieve the god idea from the same unverifiable evidences you listed? That's even small considering believers of other religions who have or are using the same experiences to say their cow/goat/bull god exists?

Believing is faith without evidence and science is mostly based on deductions from inferences to build on knowledge, i doubt the two ideas mix as religious faith is actually dogma which many refuse to change in light of conflicting evidence.

orisa37:
You are just confused. That's why.

You say I'm confused, whereas all I'm doing is asking questions anyone should have. If you are a believer who accepts the idea of a god can I know why you do so I can stop being confused?

spartan117:
The idea that microscopic organisms existed was a big fallacy before a microscope was discovered. But did that negate their existence?

The device with which you used to type this, the software that powers this forum, the Lamborghini's, Bugattis and Rolls Royce of this world were designed by someone right?
So why do you assume that the sun, the moon, the earth, the trees, the continents and the oceans as perfect as they seem don't have a designer?

Looking at the precision in the design of nature itself, the programming of the earth to revolve around the the sun and rotate around it's axis bringing day and night and seasonal changes at a specific period of time is enough to tell you that it was designed by someone. Something can never come from nothing, everything made was made by someone.

I belief it's because of all this that the Bible concluded that it will take a fool to say there is no God

So, from my understanding here, people like you who wrote the bible said those who don't believe the god written there are fools so that automatically makes everything about it true?

Before we even get to the biggest failure to reason on your part lets get something clear. Why or how can a being as you understand it have human body parts if it is the only thing that ever existed? If you can believe such a thing can exist then what stops the universe from always existing?

Leading to your last assumption. You said ;

"Something can never come from nothing, everything made was made by someone."

But your god idea just broke your own statement.

We can say someone is making someone for someone to exist. I can vouch that people have been giving birth to people, can you vouch for god/gods creating a universe? Why not god giving birth to other gods like in the greek religions.

Your assumption for a god boils to something can actually exist eternally. Now, between a universe existing eternally and a god that has eyes, nose and mouth like you to create things using nothing you'd bank on the god idea being true? LOL.

Were you taught man-made/artificial and natural categorizations when growing up? If yes, then why are you squeezing your belief in a god into things everyone met in this universe? What feature makes you think a being somewhere else has to exist for the universe to function?

From your write-up, you seem to think things have to be perfect for a god to exist and relate that to human beings designing cars and other things, but the universe itself isn't perfect, from the 6 mass extinctions that have killed 99.9% of life that once existed here to the way the moon affects our tides, everything we experience is at the mercy of these celestial bodies. Why are we trying to tame the forces of the earth if it was perfect to begin with? Because a human being ate a fruit?

Without assuming a god as described in the bible exists, reality is a mystery and if you include one it's still that mystery plus more mysteries of where the god came from, if/how it wants something and how it can affect our universe.

Lets even say somehow there is such a thing, why would it exist in a place resembling a human kingdom? does it fancy the lifestye of Jerusalem 2000 years ago?

So god is making houses and beds(with mattress) for you to sleep and wake up on in heaven?

FirmTR:
The idea of a God is false because na you create yourself..

Nonsense.

Funny, if questioning your belief makes you emotional should you be carrying them blindly(you can correct me on why if you have any) in the first place?

You know human beings can't magically appear but accept that a god with your face, tongue, ear, eye etc can? And more than that that it speaks languages when nobody exists to talk to from the beginning of your belief itself.

SWATMan:
"It is easier for me to accept a world without God full of conflicts, than to accept that there is God in a world full of contradiction" Nietze
You are an atheist simple and no amount of lecture would convince you about His existence until you are opportuned to encounter Him. If His Glory which is evident around you rather than the brain dead children you mentioned is all that you could muster to prove your doubt, well you are on a long trip. Your write up instead of conveying the message you intended to, rather shows a man in conflict with his inward being. If you can tell me how to weigh a kilogram of fire then, I might help you in your confusion.

You say I'm confused and yet ask me to weigh a kilogram of fire to somehow reveal what I'm confused about. I can't do that, have you or anyone else done that? And is there any way that relates with god or proves it?

It's been a while, to be clear the god I'm talking about is the general idea of a person, animal or object that exists as the first thing to exist and may or may not be responsible for everything else.

Let's start with the elephant in the room, we share this universe, you and I, we can objectively give ourselves as much evidence for our own existence. So why would we assume there's someone or something that's exactly like us(outside of the universe as a whole)?

If it's the first thing that ever was why would it have the physical characteristics(depending on belief) of the things in our reality? What does god need a right and left hand for? Clothes? Where'd it get them from?

For a person like me I'd reason these ideas borrow from the time they came to be that those gods would have the themes of the society they lived in, Greek gods occupy Greek mountains, Jewish gods occupy Jewish lands, Scientology spirits ride in airplanes(yes, google that).

And it's dumb to think of the creation stories as anything but myths of those cultures. So a perfect god(again, depending on the god) wouldn't get humans right the first time? And if it can't would a second time be any different?

If the god is an animal then why allow human beings exploit the animal for food, luxury and work? Why would a cow/goat, bull god make a human or even want to?

If there's such a place the god stays in but wants us to be with it what's the point of here then? Not saying there can't be reasons but when you start seeing brain dead babies and life born into this world that experiences pain and suffering 24/7 you have to ask why your god would be okay for a new being to be scorned for nothing at all.

Moving on to the naturally next point from the previous, if we humans did something to offend that being then doesn't that mean the being can't predict human behavior? Or wants humans to be exactly the way we are?

Lastly, if there's a way to reclaim peace with that/those being(s) then what function does our experiences serve if we're created with only one purpose in mind? I'm basically saying if you want object "b" to only do x in y then why add a feature that prevents or prolongs this process? Trial? For who? The object does not have to run any trial if it's use is for the creator.

These are my gripes with god/gods as an idea, it would be interesting to see if other people(believer or not) shares the same or have anything to add or clear over these. Thanks.

This village bicycle will then be bought by the highest bidder.

I made over #10 mil legitimately between those ages bro, so not true.(through crypto at the time)

Rosement:
If out of ignorance you believe there is a first thing that allowed the creator to exist, can you explain how the thing came into existence? How else do you want me to explain to you that every theory in the universe is a mystery? For you to ask this question after the explanation I gave you it means you know nothing about science. Go and do your findings properly before asking questions.

I'm not the one insisting there has to be a creator, that burden of proof lies with you. So again, what allows your creator to exist in the first place.

Rosement:
Every scientific theory about the creation of the universe is still a mystery, why can't you solve those mysteries before asking this type of question. Why is it only the existence of the creator(God) that you are querying? Next time, do your findings properly before typing anything.

If you believe the creator has a creator, then the creator of the creator has to have a creator, stop deceiving yourself, we cannot fathom this. All I know is there have to be a first, there is nothing that does not have a first and without a first a second cannot exist. God is the first. He is eternal, He does not have a beginning or an end because He has always existed.

No, if everything has to have a first then what was the first thing that allowed the creator to exist?

Jokerman:
C.

Only a fool will say no one created the universe, or that the universes just exploded and became what we know of today.

There are intelligent signs everywhere for us to discern the truth...

So what created the creator?

macrodata:
I understand what you're doing and it has no connection with providing help. This is simply money laundering. Using people's account to transact cryptocurrency with their debit card on foreign exchanges.

I'm not criticising your hustle but I'd advice you review your method or else many more losses will come from many more Judases. You want alternative method, then reach out to me.quote me

Go and read on what money laundering is.

How is your hate different from someone saying he doesn't want to be seeing black people on the screen that it's like they're trying to shove "them" into his face?

The world doesn't revolve around what you like nor your beliefs, keep frustrating yourself thinking people have agenda to add things you hate.

Women/girls often do those things when they're treated well in a relationship so the man would know she can also look after him.

einsteine:
You can't.

I am guessing you watched The Big Short recently.

There are no swaps traded in Nigeria and even globally, you can't trade CDS without an ISDA.

I am guessing you don't have an ISDA.

The only derivatives traded in Nigeria are simple warrants, FX options and non deliverable forwards and they are mostly for hedging purposes by banks. For example, a bank may give out fcy loans to an importer and if the importer is paying back lcy, they will hedge the position with a non deliverable forward.

You're right, I did watch the big short and I'm looking to see if there are options like that in Nigeria. Aren't there offshore financial markets that hedge foreign markets?

I want to create credit default swap positions on several areas of Nigerian finance can someone post here the minimum requirements and the financial agencies that allow such?

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ufotty2001:
Girls are so demanding nowadays likewise men too demanding for sex.. to me I can't give to a girl that I love so much that I know that we will end up marrying reason is because I don't want her to get used to it..

How can men demand for sex when both parties end up enjoying it? Compared to giving out money? Or do you orgasm when billed?

Let's stop talking as though sex is a chore to women, na them dey nack high value men at 15 years of age while you were still playing brick game.

In reality if your life is set up well, they will be the ones lining up for your bed and you don't need to disturb them at all.

You're being told to pet and spoil a woman you should chase out of your home with a belt, lol. You've been emasculated in your household(go check what that word means).

Men have forgotten the society was built up in a way to destroy people who messed around after marriage. She's disloyal to the core and you will either end up dead before your time or with a disease if you keep tolerating it.

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FreeSpirited:
My dear Men, abeg are these stories really true? Are men so mentally paralysed by pvssy that they can't even think and act like a man...seems like made up story

I've witnessed worse and in my younger years I tolerated worse. It is happening to someone out there even if the story isn't true.
Women can be obviously cheating and not invested to an outsider, but you wey struggle for the relationship will be blind.

When rich men don't look your way anymore you repackage as repented and changed, women really have it easy.

It's got Mercury in it and that's a toxic bleaching agent.

kelfree99:
Bro homosexuality is evil, no matter how you try to view it.
If this evil act was to be legalized, there would be serious consequences for example : rape cases would increase drastically.
Let us think before defending something, we must not always follow the foot steps of the whites.

White people didn't invent homosexuality, educate yourself. If many religious documents and historical books talk of homosexuality then you should know it has been a part of humanity since the beginning. Consider a white man saying before blacks were free that freeing blacks would make black people start killing white people. There's truth in it but it's for the wrong reasons, so ofcourse same sex rape would increase the same way you and I can kill a white man but that isn't an argument against letting human beings be free since everyone is created equal.

kelfree99:
All this nairalanders defending gays sef.
Nigeria has a law against homosexuality so obey it , or you travel to America or other countries that legalized the act and knack your fellow man there simple!!

Las Las na napkin all of una go wear.

Something being a law doesn't make it right. If it were a law to kill your first born child is that right? Will you say everyone should leave the country or try to repeal the law?

Uteghe:
That's a gargantuan lie. No one has the right to be gay just like no one has the right to eat faeces.

Lol. You're too emotional. People like you can't think rationally. Between homosexuality and eating faeces which is more detrimental to your health?
People are gay and there will always be gay people, they were here before you were born and will be here after so why the persecution on their lifestyle?

There used to be a time black people were considered unnatural animals, beaten, killed and flogged daily to know their place in the world, now it's these guys we're facing?
Call a spade a spade guys, they did it with themselves, they didn't force kids or animals or anyone's wife.
Whereas you can't try such with influential fornicators or adulterers, you will gladly clap to forgive a pastor or minister but your fellow neighbor must bleed. We are our own worst enemy.