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Health › Re: COVID-19 Testing: Clarifications On Corruption Allegations By Prof. Akin Abayomi by davodyguy: 10:41pm On Jan 14, 2021

TV. News did the expose in their investigative reportage.

Those guys at Yaba charge as much as ₦35,000 for fake COVID-19 test

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:01pm On Jan 14, 2021

Beware.

Don't out of desperation or urge rush to buy land in Lagos.

You just might be buying a land acquired by LASG

Investigate your land, even if the popular real estate companies advertised it to you.

Chart the survey plan first.

Anyone who buys land illegally in a government scheme would lose out

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:30pm On Jan 14, 2021

ollykay619:
Thank you sir.

So to have a complete ownership of a land, one must have the CofO

Or should I say what document must one have to have posses the full ownership of a land

Or a registered Deed of assignment where the predecessor in title already had one

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:14pm On Jan 14, 2021

ollykay619:
I assume you are talking about the survey plan the land seller shows the buyer.

I have a question, what is red copy survey and does that serve as any form of a valid title?

No please

Registering your survey plan is a means to an end not an end in its self.

One of the prerequisites to getting either your Certificate of Occupancy or your Deed of Assignment registered is registering your survey plan at the office of Surveyor General, called lodgement.

This is why it's called 'Red copy'. The color of the survey plan is not red, just as the black box in a plane is not painted in black colour.

At the Surveyor General's office, they only check few things before registering a survey plan in the name of any applicant that comes for registration.

1. That the survey plan is signed by a registered land surveyor

2. The land is not within a government scheme

3. The land is properly positioned and not on Road alignment

4. Coordinates are correct

5. Land is not under Acquisition and if under Acquisition, consent to survey is obtained.

They don't care who's name is on it. Hence, they would only come to court to defend the plan submitted to them and not say who truly owns the land.

It's Lands Bureau that controls land ownership as vested into the Governor of that state by the Land Use Act 1978

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 3:58pm On Jan 14, 2021

[quote author=lorhema post=98054609][/quote]I always tell people this.

A survey plan on its own is not a 'valid' title, either registered or unregistered.

A survey plan only shows you the dimension and location of a land, its coordinates and may be the beacon numbers.

5 of us can have a survey plan drawn in our names by 5 different land surveyors on a single plot.

What you should do is to ask the vendor if he/she has a valid title that confirms he owns the land.

if he doesn't have other than a receipt (which itself does not confirm ownership, cause I can also issue you a receipt on a land that doesn't belong to me) take the survey plan to the Office of the Surveyor General of Oyo State, and Chart it first to confirm if the land is free from acquisition and if under acquisition, is it committed or can be ratified by you obtaining consent to Survey.

Start here first

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 12:38pm On Jan 14, 2021

Let's create something on this thread

If you have questions pertaining to titles of land or approval to build, please ask me

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 11:03pm On Jan 13, 2021

somehow:
Phew!
Thank you for this.
So when I am ready to build in any of the estates, I must part way with 750k to 1m... Okay o
Like the government is anti-progress..

That's why more than 50% of all buildings in Lagos doesn't have approval.

I had a meeting with Governor Ambode ìn 2017 and I told him point blank.

Audit all the over 2 million buildings in Lagos State today. More than half of that number are not approved, cos people got frustrated and abandoned the process.

Though, building without approval is illegal

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:01pm On Jan 13, 2021

n3xt:
I was on a platform and someone sent me the picture attached and asked “Why do you think LASG seal this type of structure?

May I co-ask my Ogas in the house “What do you think could make LASG to seal this building?”

I just zoomed the image and saw MPP&UD meaning it's the Ministry that did this and not LASPPPA or LABSCA. The commissioner and PS Control the ministry, while the GM of LASPPPA and GM of LABSCA report to both the PS and Commissioner.

The commissioner is the most senior, followed by the PS. But SA to Governor on Physical Planning is a senior to the Commissioner in terms of closeness to the Governor.

On why it's was sealed?

In my opinion

1. Building or built it without approval
2. Infractions ( when you submit a different plan, say 2 floors and you now go to 5 floors)
3. Failure to observe adequate set back
4. Failure to comply with Land use Zoning
5. Petition written against you by adjoining property owners
6. Building on road alignment
7. Building on right of way

One or all of the 6 reasons highlighted above could be the cause. After all, there's no curse without a cause grin

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:30pm On Jan 13, 2021

somehow:
Alright. how much does it cost to get such approval to build sir and like how long does it take?

Since you currently may not have a 'registered title' now, you'll need to get a survey plan of the land registered at the office of the Surveyor General, with beacon numbers showing, then hand the survey plan to your architect to prepare a drawing.

If it's a bungalow, you don't need a structural drawing, but for two floor building, you need a structural drawing.

You also need a soil test report. This is to tell you the kind of foundation you need.

Take all these documents to the LASPPPA office in your Local Government. They would prepare an assessment for you.

Assessment is done based on the gross floor area of your proposed building.

Less say your gross floor area is 300sqm, this size is multiplied by a rate of construction to arrive at assessed value.

The value in the assessment is what you'll pay.

You pay one to LASPPPA and another one to LABSCA called stage certification.

The part that out most developers is the tax clearance.

The minimum tax that LIRS will demand from any developer even in Ikorodu, Epe, Alagbado etc is ₦750,000 and if it's like Ikoyi, Lekki, VI, the developer can be asked to pay as much as ₦5million as tax clearance before you can be granted approval.

To LIRS, anything that makes you want to build means you must be rich. Hence, they ask for minimum of ₦750,000 from you, even if your land cost you ₦100,000

Give or take, the minimum to pay would be close to ₦1million.

How long does it take? It can take between 30 days to almost forever.

This is Nigeria, I must not talk too much

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Politics › Re: Don Okonkwo Assures Of APC Takeover As Ngige, Andy Uba Storm Stakeholders Meetin by davodyguy: 9:15pm On Jan 13, 2021

Alex reports is now a politician.

What happens to most beautiful girl show you host?

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 9:13pm On Jan 13, 2021

somehow:
Okay, so those estate with approved excision stating "buy and build" in their adverts are lying?

I'm looking for a better way to simplify this for you to understand.

The 'buy and build' should not be taken literally.

Before you buy, investigate whatever the estate claims to have and before you can build anything in Lagos, you need approval from LASPPPA.

No estate can grant you approval to build with a recourse to LASPPPA

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:06pm On Jan 13, 2021

n3xt:
I think it’s fair to try to understand the message is trying to pass across.

Land excision and building approval aren’t the same but you definitely won’t get an approval to build on an “Excision in Process” land even though omo-onile can trick unsuspecting buyer to buy such land.

The biggest scam today that real estate marketers, promoters, agents and companies use to hoodwink buyers is “Excision in Process” and that they already have file number blah blah.

I think every information is important.

@somehow how did you come about “Approved Excision”

In Lagos State and this has been for sometime now. Whether you have a Certificate of Occupancy, 'Excision' a registered Deed of Assignment, an unregistered deed etc, you can can still get approval to build, but that approval would be regarded as provisional, meaning we're granting you this approval to build on 'your land' pending when you authenticate your title, upon which we would then remove provisional from you approval.

Here's it, Fashola liberalized a lot of things just to make life easy for developers. Under Tinubu, no Approval would be granted for you to build without producing registered document to certify ownership.

As an Estate Management student, years ago we're taught the doctrine of Quicquid plantatur solo, solo cedit

The doctrine simply means he that owns the land owns everything under or above it.

If anyone decides to wrestle my land from me and goes ahead to start development, I don't need to fight him physically. Under this Doctrine, I'll sue him to court for trespassing and if the case is decided in my favor, both the land and any development thereon would belong to me.

The above is just an aside which we use when we go to court, but all we've been saying which you and I agree with is that, titles/ root of titles must be properly investigated before buying. Yes, the word 'excision' and ratification has been bastardized by illiterates these days and use it to defraud unsuspecting people

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 7:17pm On Jan 13, 2021

somehow:
Oga o

Approved Excision means you can build shey?

There's nothing like 'approved excision' signifying authorization to build.

There's just one agency in Lagos State empowered by the Urban and Regional Planning Law 2010 of Lagos State signed by Fashola to grant approval. That agency is called Lagos State Physical Planning Permit Authority (LASPPPA) and this agency is under the Ministry of Physical Planning and Urban Development (MPP&UD)

Land Excision is different from Building approval or Development Permit

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 7:13pm On Jan 13, 2021

somehow:
Is it by the name of the estate or the company behind the name?

Lets say Gracias group
Revolutionplus
Adron homes
Silver pacific
or landmark. omo Nile will enter the estates owned by these guys to disturb them too?

The estates cited above are luxurious ones where a plot of land can cost as much as ₦100m.

I have no idea of what operates in private real estate companies' estate

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 6:43pm On Jan 13, 2021

BiigTee:
One of the reasons is their service charge(infrastructure charge development charge) and all of that rubbish they don't tell u before u make payment.. In adron estate, u can't build and stop.. U must build from foundation to finishing at a stretch! I had already bought the land before i saw that nonsense rule! So i just abandoned the land and got another one. Just know if u buy land from adron at 2m..the other hidden charges will almost double ur 2m. Before u can lay a block on ur own land

Chai.

See condition

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 6:41pm On Jan 13, 2021

somehow:
Does building in an Estate stop government agencies from coming for such practices?

Does it also stop omo Nile?

Let me answer in parts.

1. So far the land is within the geographical location of Lagos State, MPP&UD will visit your site to demand for building approval. Even in GRA Ogudu, MAGODO, Lekki Phase 1, VGC etc.

2. There are some estates that no ọmọ onílè dare enter. Eg Lekki Phase 1, VGC, Ogudu GRA, Northern Foreshore, Carlton Gate, Parkview, Banana Island.

But all those CDAs that call themselves estates, Omo onile will enter to collect Foundation Money, roofing, decking etc at anytime

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 2:05pm On Jan 13, 2021

zuraking:
the funny part is, there is no receipt for most payment.

Building to your taste is still better when there is inflow of cash.

But no timeline to when you can complete your house, except if you are under pressure.

Take your time to achieve what you want.

For my building, I first targeted December 2020, but since some materials didn't arrive and yet to arrive as at today, we are looking at sometime later this year. May March 1st or April 1st. Before I was putting myself under pressure. Now I realized it doesn't worth it.

Building is wired up 100%, tiled up to 70%, plumbing fittings done, doors, POP internal and externally done and what's left can be finished in 20 working days with another N5 million, but I am not in a competition with anyone, so I can take my time to avoid having hypertension.

School fees is due next Monday. Madam just sent me invoice now grin

I checked my kobo kobo exercise book yesterday and realized we've spent N37.850m From April, 14th 2020 to 12th January, 2021. The money didn't come at once but in piece meal. the days of buying items of N500 to that of N500,000 gradually till we got to where we are now

It is about priority

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 1:54pm On Jan 13, 2021

Jasobry:
I'm building in an estate,ive not made any extra payment to anyone,either government or whoever. Though not in Lagos

Lagos does'nt have 'oil' as mush as the Niger Delta states, but they make so much in terms of taxing Citizens.

Imagine LASg telling you to pay N750,000 as tax just to get building approval, even if the cost of land is N200,000.

We pay millions to LASG to build, aside from omo onile

Ogun State is learning in a bad way.

To establish a Gas Skid or PFS in Ogun State, you'll pay Physical Planning over N7million for approval. Please how much is the land? or how much do you require to set up a modular Gas Skid? May max N4million which should include land cost. But Ogun State Govt will tell you to pay N7million for approval

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 11:53am On Jan 13, 2021

zuraking:
lol. We all know most house builder na Kobo kobo people. If the money dey, we go carry money buy house for good location. How will someone be telling me I will spend 13m building an average 3 bedroom bungalow.

Ideally it pays to build to taste, but the terrain in Nigeria is discouraging. Start building and see different LASG agencies that you never know exist visit your site for documentations, couple with Omo Onile, area boys etc

When you build, you can be rest assured of comfort, compared with what a profit minded developer would do, just to make his return.

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 4:21pm On Jan 11, 2021

EgunMogaji2:
Very difficult but the rewards are great for whoever figured it out.

Baba, under this government and Coro inclusive, people are just staying afloat and no one want to take risk.

I just spoke with the Customs officer handling the container where all my house's DBs, switches and lights are kept. He said the Shipping companies are asking for N5,000,000 each in order to release the containers before they can truck them out of Apapa to destination of Pick up.

My agent is asking me to plead with all those who's goods are trapped that we should support him in order to clear our goods. This support is in adding to what we already paid him for clearing oo. At the end of the day, why didn't I buy these things in Nigeria? I felt for a man who's goods is also trapped along mine. He said since March, 2020 he has been on it with the Agent. He has lost almost everything. Some people they have doors, some furniture in same container. My own items are still small naa. I feel for those business men among us

I am just tired of this country.

My tiles issue with that chap is still there unresolved since December. The guy's claiming he;s not back in Lagos yet and he wants to bury his father, so i should wait till end of January, 2021 grin

You just gets frustrated in this Nigeria and feel like just relocating

Travel › Re: LASG Gives Report On Rehabilitation Works On Oba Sekunmade Road, Ikorodu by davodyguy: 2:14pm On Jan 11, 2021

[quote author=Lanrelagboi post=97947886][/quote]This is good development

We just opened this station on that road in July, 2020

It will go a long way to boost Goods and services

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 2:12pm On Jan 11, 2021

zanshi:
What is your take on Revolution Plus, any good?

I haven;t dealt with them.

But in all, do your due diligence. That what I do year in year out and go to court and prepare lots of court documents that has to do with Real Estate and Landed properties. Even if it Revolution Plus or Adron Homes, due diligence is all that matters.

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 2:10pm On Jan 11, 2021

EgunMogaji2:
In the USA we have what we call Escrow Services.

Escrow will never close on a property that has unsatisfied liens (except if part of the sales is to satisfy that lien), is a government land or the property doesn't belong to the seller.

One can buy land in the USA and just leave it for decades, nothing will happen except government eminent domain and they will compensate.

This is an excellent opportunity for someone in Nigeria.

PS: The escrow companies are licensed and insured and they own the risk of satisfying any oversight on their part.

This would be difficult in Nigeria

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 2:09pm On Jan 11, 2021

Enyinne:
Hi Dave , how far with your goods ? All sorted ? Can u please share contact of the DB and switch seller in china so i can compare

My seller in CN is one of the best and I got the cheapest deal.

I would gladly share his contact with you.

He;s a young Chinese guy called Peace.

Send me a message via Nairaland and I can share more details with you.

I called my Agent in China this morning and he told me that he has cleared with the Nigerian custom, but he needs to pay demurrage. Hopefully by Friday all can be cleared. So he said and I am hoping it is so

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 11:35pm On Jan 10, 2021

Moda1:
Hi David , i need one connect from u . Pls i will send u PM

I replied you but message bounced back saying your mail box is full or disabled.

Please check

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 8:15pm On Jan 10, 2021

KolaShangOne:
I talked about someone that bought land from a big real estate company that we later discovered to be government acquired.

Dem plenty.

I tell people to spend ₦50,000 on search before spending millions on buying property.

We are about buying a filling Station in Ibadan This week.

I first went to Secretariat at Agodi Gate and the search conducted revealed that the present owner Mortgaged the property to FCMB and a Legal mortgage was created.

Until he pays FCMB and there is a deed of release, if we bought the property from him, we're on our own.

That's why my client engaged me to act professional.

Don't buy any land without getting all these 3 professionals involved

1 Estate Surveyor and Valuer (Conduct search at Lands Bureau)
2. Registered land surveyor (Chart at the office of Surveyor General)
3. Lawyer (Preparation of deed of assignment)

My discipline covers all 3 mentioned above cheesy

You can call me 'trinity' grin

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 7:41pm On Jan 10, 2021

Moda1:
Hi David , i need one connect from u . Pls i will send u PM

Go ahead

Celebrities › Re: Victoria Inyama Tests Positive For COVID-19 In UK by davodyguy: 3:23pm On Jan 10, 2021

This second wave seem to be affecting under 50 people more.

The first wave was for the elders and it seems this second wave is for the youths that are carefree

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Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 2:44pm On Jan 10, 2021

redcliff:
what is it?

Kindly send me hi on Nairaland PM, I'll forward the guy's number to your mail box

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 10:28am On Jan 10, 2021

redcliff:
it seems like they use machines to cut their tiles right? can you give me their details?

Yes I can

Properties › Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by davodyguy: 12:48am On Jan 10, 2021

diordaves:
This your TV 'stand' fine o. It gives the living room the needed character. I like it.

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