₦airaland Forum

fabulous85:
these are internet pics oga, see the naija made pics first. finishing and attention to details has always been our problem.

Exactly.

We get easily deceived by pictures

zuraking:
I don't know the durability of these pop cement I have been seeing online

4900 looks cheap compared to Abs selling 9k

Old advert.

Call the number and see the vendor claim it's ₦9000 per bag

Alex report on the beat

Awesomefoodie:
Thanks to those that shared their opinion and advise. I have told the Alhaja I am not interested in going again.

You're good looking. Run before Alhaja hand you I we to Arab/Indian for something else

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dudusky007:
you dey mad....?? na who dey count am say na 20 times Thanks to God for saving this boy when be lyk nana agrada client

Good question

Godisgreatest1:
Hello, I sent Dangote cement customer service a mail telling them the current price of cement is #3500 to #4000. This was the response I received. Thank you.

This is not a 'response' that is anticipated

They may not get back to you or if they do, they would not be able to provide satisfactory response

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bolaayenimo:
Very slow pace of work. They promised to open it in January 2021 or before then but right now, it doesn't look like it at all.

Very pathetically slow pace

We celebrate mediocrity in Nigeria

The stretch of the bridge from Adeniji to Iyana Oworonshoki is 11Km
The portion being repaired is from Adeniji to Adekunle exit, which is less than half of the 11KM

The Ministry is repairing it for a huge sum of N18,000,000,000 (N18 billion)

That small portion is taking 6 months

Who caused Nigeria to celebrate absurdity?

That portion shouldn't exceed 60 days for repairs

valencia2012:
If builders, house owners and contractors can chose between aluminium sheets and stone coated roofing due to finance or choice, why is there no such alternative to POP?
My thinking is because Okorommaduekwe did it, therefore Gbadamosi, Osunbor and Idongesit must do it. Just like iron wrought, chrome or stainless rails.
Not because its cheap or expensive.
Some have added penthouses to buildings but don't know it's meaning or usefulness, because they just want the penthouse title added when describing their edifice.
Its a matter of mentality and dynamism.

Says who?

The ceiling of upper floor or floor before the roof doesn't necessarily have to be done with POP. There are different kinds of ceiling finishing that are very durable

When we protested in the south, you guys didn't care.
We protested against bad governance, but some of your leaders brainwashed you into thinking we wanted regime change.

Even if we wanted a regime change, wouldn't that be appropriate, judging by the level of insecurities in Nigeria at the moment?

You guys are just waking up

Johndoxzy:
@Ticha
@femijk
She said its a company in NZ that's sponsoring the visa.


I've attached a sample of what they've done.

This doesn't look real.

I may be wrong

diordaves:
But the N4,000 per square meter for POP includes labour cost and all associated cost.

But the price you quoted (N27,000) plasterboard is just for the plasterboard only. You still need installation materials cost, screeding (finishing) materials and labour cost. By the time you factor these in, the cost difference may not be as clear cut. We've been here before just recently.

So to get a clearer perspective, how much will YOU charge per square meter using plasterboard? Or better put; how much do YOU charge using plasterboard? Give this figure and if the price is truly cheaper, I'm sure a Nairalander may take up your quote and come back to give a rating.

So come out transparently and quote jobs using plasterboard as an alternative. Only then can you kill off the debate. Same for the adhesive brand your are 'promoting'.

Forget about that plasterboard 'thingy'

It's more expensive than using the POP Cement, Top bond and the POP Paint.

I'm at that stage now and I've compared both options.

I've spent about ₦2m to screed all internal and external walls, including ceiling POP cast design.

I got a quote of ₦8,500 per square metre for plasterboard (material and Labour). The size of the ceiling is 7.5m*30m=225sqm.

Let's do the maths ₦8500*225sqm=₦1,912,500

But I will be achieving much more with about ₦2,100,000

My ₦2,100,000 spent covers:
All external wall Screeding (from roof to the ground)
All internal walls (save areas with wall tiles)
Ceiling of the entire upper floor

One4me:
I think the price will go down a bit, after the new year.
Reason being that every year, around October, November and into December, Prices of building materials always go up because there is pressure on purchases as everyone wants to finish their project and move into their New House on New Years day.

I will always pause major purchases around this time and wait till January when most people have done their rush, even sellers are more responsive in the New year when sales are down and everyone is broke, spent or more concerned about School fees.



At the bolded:
Will this increase not have an inflationary effect on house prices /house rent, as we move into the new year or would people build/repair at such exorbitant price and still rent at the same price of last year?

Till now, we're still chasing tenants to pay rent at old rate. Many are hiding under the pandemic by not paying

naturalwaves:
If you want to watch live
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This is good link.

Working fine

NwaNimo1:
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Tribalist, you're here again.

Your name says it all

gbadexy:
I think he should be able to do it. If they can use raw cement to dress cement plaster, they could use pop cement and portland cement mix.

We would try it definitely for fencing.

Material and Labor for Screeding my building has cost us over ₦2m if not more

Pop Cement, Top bond, Pop Emulsion Paint, Fillers, binding wire, marine board cost cost over ₦1.6m. Labour is over ₦700k.

6 months ago, we would have spent half of this amount for same job when POP cement cost just ₦4000

gbadexy:
I don't do application and from the description, it would have to be done by the people doing the plastering because it must still be workable and not totally set.

My bricklayer is not an engineer, but Baba Taye (Èjíré)

Baba has been on the job for over 60 years. I hope it's something baba can do

erico2k2:
Bro look closely what you posted are not vents they are actually ROOMS!

More like a pent (pent house pent room)

gbadexy:
This here is something that would work. The pop cement slurry would set together with the cement plaster and it has a surface that is soft to be sandpapered.

Is it something you can do in Lagos, based on all he said?

gameboy55:
wall screed 2m, damn


there is a very very cheap way to achieve dat with less than 50k (depending on the size of your project) and to me its best, becos it does not peel off after sometime like that of top bond nd pop combination

in south here, its called plaster screeding, WHY because, its goes along with your plastering

as soon as the walls is plastered and allowed to dry (to the point if you apply force on it won't spoil the job) you mix few quantity of pop cement with water nd add a little quantity of black cement nd stir properly

use a screeding brush to apply the solution on your plastered walls and smooth with sand paper wen dry


its very beautiful (very smooth nd cellophane like walls)
its the cheapest method you can get
nd it last longer than top bond method which paints usually peels off on most occasions


I used just one bag of pop cement for both inside, outside, and parapet screeding for my 4bedroom bungalow with labour not up to 40k. It was done by those doing the plastering


the attacted fence including the four sides inside fence walls (100 by 50) was done with half bag of pop cement. labour was less than 30k.

This is interesting and worth giving a try.

For my fencing, I can try this

ceelog:
For screeding...
@Aventures and @gbadexy had provided these answers before.
1.for a smooth plastered wall, use two coats of primer (thick) paint
2. Then use sand paper to smoothen the wall.
3. Paint with matte or satin.

I am doing these for all non critical rooms and wait for POP for living area.

Of I had seen this earlier, may be I wouldn't have invested about ₦2m on Wall Screed.

I'm particular about cosmetic cracks that the plasterers always blame on plaster sand. Hence, opted for POP.

I'll definitely use satin paint

Jasobry:
Sure... But gradually projects are been suspended.

I stated this days ago, that many projects have been discontinued.

Yes, some are still ongoing due to Nigerian's ruggedness to succeed

n3xt:
The problem is they’ll still get patronage.

That's it

Nigerians can cope with anything

Another bad news on where we're heading.

100% price increase. Like POP cement price moving from ₦5,000 to ₦9500

Takoro13:
Government silence is enough proof sr. Cement and the likes are amongst national natural resources which is known to be a blessing from God to the citizens. Why has government chose to neglect their role in controlling commodity price of such goods while they aware of resultant of hick in petrol price on good and services. Why has government chose to allow cement producers to sell out larger part of their products? What hasn't government talk or set up committee to look into the reason for this crazy increment?

Oga mi, all these you know. You only want me talk ni

Peace

Maybe opening the land borders can help

n3xt:
Well, it’s good (or let me say fair) you’re experiencing this as a homeowner and not as a contractor/builder.

Imagine you’re a builder/engineer receiving fund from a client in diaspora and all these happened, what will you do?
Some of these things are what contractors/engineers experience on projects.

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It's amazing how quickly things can change and affect planning.

Last 2019, when I thought things were going to remain unchanged, I was Globetrotting.

Started from Journey in September from Dubai, landed in Sydney (Australia) before resting in Auckland (New Zealand)

See me sitting comfortably in the biggest commercial Airplane in the world, Airbus A380 and getting served a great meal by Emirates Airline. (Ticket cost alone was ₦1.6m)

By December, it was another adventure from Istanbul to Paris to Brussels enjoying my Christmas at the popular Eiffel Tower and Notre-Dame de Paris.

Dollar was ₦360
Euro was ₦398
Pounds was ₦450

Those in the Diaspora too can see and feel what's happening across the globe and can't blame contractors, especially regarding price control

Freestainworld:
most priceless gift right now

Thank God I don't eat Garlic and onions

Jasobry:
I was told today by a cement distributor that the current price of cement is caused by them(major distributor) and that the cabals want them to maximise profit for now. He said the government wont interfare,because they are involved.

It's just annoying.

Budget ₦10 for a project.

Start the project and spend ₦50 without still completing the project.

That is NIGERIA

When we say middle men are the cause of price hike, we are right.

Bought cables today from Lagos Island and after agreeing on price, transfer was done. As my staff was about packing up, the guy said it's no longer the price and decided to add ₦3000 extra on the price of 16mm cables.

I became upset and immediately asked for refund.

Bought cables worth ₦1,100,000 from the guy and he thought I was desperate, then opted to cheat.

Everything is not just about the government, but greed of some of our fellow Nigerians.

SurveyorGeo:
A Concrete rumour has it that cost of doing land documentation in Lagos will increase by 100% to 200% next year. (Please don't quote me, just for your information)
Attached file is the current official cost in Eti Is a L G A.

Thunder fire them

Physical planning already did same

It was Fashola that synchronized everything to 3% , now this puppet want to make people suffer

The outcome will be that no one will want to perfect titles again

SurveyorGeo:
Half plot with old building on it. for sale #6million, Alapere

Which part of Alapere?