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afam4eva: One can see why Africa will continue to be the way it is because we're suffering from inferiority complex and Nigeria is shoulder above others. This is the only country you'll be mandated for paying a fee for speaking your native language in school. The only country that you'll be looked down on for making a grammatical blunder in English. The only country where speaking English is a sign of being educated. The coming of the British have put our local language at the mercy of extinction yet our senseless leader are still telling us to learn Chinese and French. How many Chinese and French people are Nigerians going to meet in their lifetime compared to Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba. Instead of encouraging our kids to learn other African language in other to help foster unity in the country, these slaves are busy bringing new foreign languages everytime. If this were China, these people would have been shot in the eeye for even suggesting it. But it's Nigeria where stup1dity goes.

Btw, i expect out ACN apologist to come and defend this action.

SHAME!!!

Says the man whose people call themselves Jews of Africa.

This same poster opened a Topic during the Olympics eulogizing the US national anthem

afam4eva: For some reason, whenever the Nigerian anthem is being played i just don't feel anything. But whenever the US anthem is being played, it moves me. I get close to tears at times. Mind you i've never been to the US in my life. Why don't i feel anything when the national anthem of Nigeria is being played? Even the South African anthem moves me.

https://www.nairaland.com/1019599/nigerian-anthem-vs-american-anthem

Ngodigha: Ebonyi might be an educationally disadvantaged state but only Imo state dwarfs 3 Yoruba states put together.

Ebonyi in Igbo land is an Educationally less Developed state on the same level as Jigawa and Zamfara FACT deal with it

No state in the SWest can be called an ELDS. No wonder Igbos are illiterates

coogar: if sturridge cannot use his left foot to angle out a pass from that position then he should retire and let others have a shot in professional football....what does it take to slide a pass to torres between evra and evans? jeeeez!!!!!

Sturidge was standing on his left foot already, How would he make a pass with the same leg he is currently standing on?

Before Sturidge moved onto his left leg for the pass Torres was already in hiding perfectly hidden behind the opponent. Notice his left leg was raised to make the pass but where was torres? Hiding like Adam hid

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nateevs: You know, it's amazing how they come up with so much bollocks. In-fact, there's never substantial back up for their claims. Torres is shit without explaining why. We are suppose to have their word for it.

Look at the second phase of analysis and savour the beauty of it. From the position Anelka receives the ball, Torres is going to make a run leftwards and score. How can someone claim that his positioning is bad or that he never makes the right run after watching this?

This is what Benitez means by Torres is one striker he knows who's capable of playing in between the lines. This is a scenario of smart passer meets right run. Anelka anticipates that Torres will make that run and he makes the pass "regardless" . . This is how we should play always! Make that pass regardless!


Anelka could have passed back to Meireles on his right but he chooses the early ball and bang Torres scores.

Look at that instant and see where Torres ran to?

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Can you see the space in front where Anelka can put the pass. Yes thats what we are talking about.

This shows Anelka or anyone can work with torres if he makes the right moves. This shows the problem isnt the midfielders but Torres who doesnt make the right moves. MAZACAR have played with several strikers before and understand their movements How is it that its only Torres they have a problem with. torres of 2008 would have played well with MAZACAR, not Torres of 2012

I bet that goal vs Man utd is more than a year old and Torres has lost it completely

coogar: you just nailed it........dayo would not return to type gibberish after this still picture....
look at sturridge - he was in the darker shade of the pitch and he should be releasing the ball from that position. the picture dayokanu is having epileptic fits about now shows sturridge in the lighter shade of the grass - that's about 6 yards distance and still - he hasn't even released the ball.


thank you very much for these still pictures - maybe now ibime and dayo would rest in peace!.

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Now lets look at this pic critically, Sturridge was on his left foot and he can only make that pass with his left leg to Torres. he would need to take at least 2 steps before he can play the pass

On to the next pic, By the time he takes those 2 steps Torres has dissapeared to hide behind the United defender and the chance is gone.

This is exactly what Torres does time and again that frustrates his midfielders. Look at Hernandez and see how he moves , Do you ever see him making such Daft movement to go hide behind defenders rather he pulls aside on the shoulder and create room for the midfielder to hit the pass to

Sagamite: Shut up!

It is the upbringing that makes men faster than women.

If African misogynists like you stop telling women they are the weaker sex, women will be faster than Usain Bolt, play better football and even be taller than men. Men will even start getting pregnant too, love fashion, handbags and shoes more than women, and be more emotional.

Get educated. Go to University of Cumbridge, forget University of Cambridge.

Fck the similar gender defined roles in the other animals in the world. Welcome to the new age cutting edge Cumbrigde education thinking (not Cambridge o).

Ok. We don hear ooo. Na we African misogynist compel the UK and US to enrol more men into the military make men stronger, Make Usain Bolt and other men faster than women

What can we do to those African misogynists sef, they are taking over the world

danjohn: I am not an Igbo man. I am a South Southerner. All I am saying is that Lagos is a melting pot and if ACN picked a non-indigene like Pat Utomi as their candidate, it will rebrand ACN to the rest of the South. It could also make Southeasterners less suspicious of ACN.

Nigeria needs to do away with the whole indigene/non-indigene crap. A person should be able to run for office in a place where they have established residence. Pat Utomi is a resident of Lagos, he is a well respected technocrat, and he will be a good person to continue the good work that Fashola has started.

Pat Utomi emerging as governor of Lagos will help ACN remove the regional perception the party currently has, and it will help the party make inroads into more states in the South and the North Central.

I know that this idea can make a person laugh the first time they read it but if you give it a second thought, it could start making sense .

If you want Nigeria to do away with the indege settler crap, Make a Yoruba man governor in your state then we would take you seriously. Until then No non Yoruba would rule a SWest state.


Who cares what other regions think about the ACN. Go to Anambra State you would see a Hausa man there, tell APGA to make him the Governorship candidate so APGA would not be viewed as a Igbo Party

Na only PDP why not MASSOB?

victorD3: Your are insane

Her oilfields are even off Lagos coastline.

Now Igbos go and kill yourselves

queensmith: again, i'm no longer entertaining uneducated statements

Point to uneducated statements you see.

If you dispute the sexual composition of the Military anywhere in the world lets know

Or You can compare the World record for the Men in 100m and compare to women

When you make a statement on the WWW you would always be challenged, You cant make emotional statements without any factual backing and get away with it

coogar: you must be a fool for writing the above.......sturridge could have put that ball behind the defender.....can u not see or you are deliberately trying to be obtuse? that pass goes between the 2 red shirts everyday of the week!

Which 2 red shirts would the pass go through? Are those 2 red shorts pillars that they wont move? Compare this to the ones you posted about Hernandez earlier and see how much distance Chicharito puts between himself and the last defender without straying offside and compare this to Torres hiding behind the defender which I copied from Nateevs

nateevs: Typical example of what the pro-Torres camp tries to pass across. Utd V Chelsea. Sturridge picks up from his half and runs into space right into the heart of the Utd defence. Torres intelligently makes a run wide, expecting that pass as seen in the pic 1 here. I draw a line to emulate where we all think the pass should go. That pass should be released early. Check out Pic 2 and see what Danny chooses to do instead.



In pic 3, I draw the path the ball would follow if Arsenal or Utd were playing. The understanding of build-up play at Utd and Arsenal is sublime. They will attempt to make that pass across goal. At Danny position on pic 2, the chance to find Torres is not totally lost. Instead see pic 3 for what Danny chooses instead. At pic 3, the chance is lost. He turns, almost falling, finds Mata on the right who then shoots with his right foot but the point is, Torres could have been set free on goal but it never happen.

There are a hundreds of scenarios I can pick from.

This is a good example of what I have been saying, By putting this out you just nailed what I have been saying about Torres.

In Pic 1 How would Sturridge get that pass to Torres ? Would he push the United defender out of the way. Use your knowledge of spatial geometry and plot how the ball would get to Torres from Sturridge without it being intercepted or you just want Sturidge to make that pass, get it intercepted and point to Torres to blame him for the missed chance?

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I would look for some Hernandez gif and see what i told you about positioning. Hernandez in an earlier scenario pulls away from the defender to give the midfielder a bigger chance of hitting him with the pass not running into blind alleys or Hiding behind the defender like Torres is doing above

Look below and how Hernandez pulled away from his marker and gave the midfielder a wider space to hit the ball into without interception from the opponent

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Senselessness, Does the stats of Anambra wipe out the abject illiteracy in Ebonyi? Abi Ebonyi is no longer a Igbo State

Its like saying the opulence in Asokoro and lekki should have covered the deficit in Jigawa State

A Igbo State is an Educationally less developed State. FACT

queensmith: Prove myself a feminist? Do I need to prove that? I believe men and women are equal, I don't need to prove that.

Ok, i'm not going to read anymore trash at face value- any further statements like this need to be backed up by science.

I'm no longer entertaining misogynist African crap.

Is it the misogynist African crap that makes men everywhere in the world physically stronger than women of the same culture?

If it the African crap that makes more men enroll in physically exerting jobs than women e.g Military, Sprint, Wrestling, Lumbering, etc.


Nature has designed a man to be different from a woman and there is no way you can equate them when they have different capabilities

i forgot about this Gameweek completely.

Imagine Fellaini is the last sub on my bench despite having a home game

frosbel: Girl A. If your Son came back home with a girl who wore a mini skirt , bosoms hanging out, with layers and layers of make up, will you honestly approve of the relationship or marriage.

Or


Girl B . If your Son came back home with a girl who dressed all covered up , quiet, respectful and almost shy-like in attitude, will you consider her too out of date for your Son.


Suppose Girl A is more sweet , kind hearted and loving than Girl B , would you not rather try to speak to her with respect and love , so that she might consider her outward appearance or would you write her off almost immediately.

Suppose girl B is really a demon in full head gear and long dress, how would you know ? Surely this is not a pre-requisite for approving their relationship, no ?

I am trying to be balanced here.

Let me know your thoughts.

It depends on the size of the breast hanging out.

And Did my son bring the girl for me?

solomon111: Na so we see am o.
Tommorrow,you will hear them asking people to leave lagos,as if it was built with their resources.

Most likely her blocs are offshore which according to the Law regarding Onshore/offshore dichotomy belongs to the FG

chosen04: she has an oil bloc that pulls in N157 million a day.

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SW peeps robbing the natural resources of SS people and not contributing a kobo to their "host upkeep"

Ifeanyi Ubah says Hi

debosky: The above two played to his strengths and he scored in 2 Euro finals, winning a golden boot.

The goal he scored 4yrs ago are now the determinant?

Samuel Etoo also scored in the CL final in 2009 he should still be a ball of fire

No wonder Spain chose to stick this ball of fire on the bench even in David Villas absence

In your sisters interest She should let go and be glad that she doesnt have a child with him

Even if they reconcile, i would advice they postpone child birth because it would make the situation messier

Kristian ma ti wa sinmi

Beni angeli re wi

Ni aarin Ota lo wa

Ma sooo raaaa

debosky: @ A-40

I'm not one of those who deny Torres has regressed. BUT, I do feel the current side ins't playing to his strengths enough.

The Chelsea of lampard, Malouda and Anelka werent playing to his strenght

The Chelsea of MAZACAR weren't playing to his strength

The Spain of Xavi, iniesta and Busquets weren't playing to his strength

Vicente Del Bosque 2 time CL winner, World Champion, European Champion wasn't playing to his strength

Carlo Ancelotti 2 time European Champion wasn't playing to his strength

AVB Europa Cup winner wasn't playing to his strength

Roberto Di Matteo Champions league winning coach wasn't playing to his strength

Roy Hodgson wasn't playing to his strength

[size=18pt]Which kain Mighty Igor strength is this that no one understands[/size]

[quote author=A-40]Back to Torres I think the biggest thing everyone is leaving out especially the pro-Torres camp is the fact that this dude is simply not the player he was at Liverpool (could it be he moved to the wrong club? Could it be his rash of injuries in the 09-10 season? Could it be his loss of confidence? Could it be that he has simply refused to adapt to his new environment)
Lethal acceleration missing,Killer first touch missing, let's face it this goes beyond Mata,Hazard,Oscar. Torres has regressed![/quote]Nooo lailai. Its everyones fault.

Once he got to Chelsea Lampard, Anelka all stopped working. Once hazard, Mata and oscar got to play with Torres they conspired to be selfish and deny Torres passes.

The coach in Spain in Villas absence would rather play without a striker than Play Torres.

Even in the last 2 years, Xavi and iniesta too have been conspiring to feed only David Villa with passes and ignore Torres or what explains that Villa despite copping several injuries in the last 2 yrs has scored more than double of Torres goals in the NT

He is joking around, No one can be that gbagaunlicious

emmatok: Who knows and respect Ojukwu in Africa except the Igbos?
Zik, Awo and Amadu bello are one of the best men Africa ever produced.

But the irony is that some peeps respect Ojukwo the warlord than ZIK the Pan Afican.

You think Igbos respect him? They just use the name Ojuku to troll others.

If They really loved Ojuku. Now tell me,

Was it Yorubas who refused to vote for him into the senate from Anambra his own constituency?

Was it Hausas who made him lose Presidential elections in his own states and region

Was it an Ijawman who was phucking his wife while he was in London in vegetative state

Was it Tivs who abandoned him in a London hospital and left him to rot?

Ojuku isnt respected anywhere in the country.

nateevs: You are ignoring the more important question, Was the pass made? There lies the crux of the argument. If a flurry of passes in anticipation of a Torres move happen time and again, it will be clear for everyone to see. Infact, Ibime will not need to post a still image to try to force an explanation, there will be live feeds.

Now post a gif of a flurry of passes towards Torres that continually eludes a proper Torres move. Only then can you match up with the incisive analysis that Coogar puts forward.

I hope you realize how stupidd this request is? You expect Mata to make a pass to Torres running in the opposite direction or putting his hands on his waist JUST TO PROVE Torres is a waste?

lemme ask you if you are a midfielder and the striker isnt making the run you would just lump the ball and show the fans that Torres is the problem? Or if your striker is offside you would still make the pass and be ruled offside just to prove what point?

Weren't you guys the same ones who posted earlier that If Torres is the problem Let the others do the scoring

Other have done their part and atimes they need Torres to do his part which he is failing miserably at

Ibime: What are you talking about 13 this, 13 that.

Mata assisted 26 times last season in all comps, none for Torres.

I was being League specific, All competition would seem like an overkill

nateevs: This is the part that irks me. It is insufficient to argue that just by playing Mata behind Torres, he will get supply. Yes Coogar and I argued that playing craftier players behind Torres "is capable of creating chances", it still all relies on the method of build up which is the core of the discussion.

If Ronaldinho plays behind Torres but the method of attack is phased and slow then we are back to square one. So instead of just assuming that our suggestions have not works, you should instead analyse if by playing MaZaCar behind Torres, the passes have really come in numbers.

So now its insufficient to play MATA behind Torres? The Mata that you advocated for last season suddenly became the problem now. Mata suddenly forgot how to play with Torres like you said he was doing last season At least the posts below all wont lie

The same persons who posted this last Spring

nateevs: The midfield revolution I have been preaching for ages is finally about to happen next season.
Just sit back and watch Torres next season.

nateevs: Juan Mata. What a player!

coogar: i have always known torres is dynamite. thank feck for mata.
villas-boas biggest error was not playing mata behind torres.

Ibime: Hehehe. . . why didnt you ask to see the flurry of passes when Sturridge was on the pitch against West Brom.

Or how about Manure League Cup game?

We all saw it.

You are expecting to see flurry of passes away at Juve with midfielders deputising for Torres.

You know the right parameters for judgement but your dishonesty has veered you toward Juve.

At least thats more honest than those asking us for GIFS of Mata playing the ball to nobody just to prove Torres isnt making the run.

People want to see evudence of midfielders making passes into open space just to prove that Torres wasnt making the run.

Juan Mata that made 35 assists in his last 3 seasons in the La Liga now doesnt know how to assist players at Chelsea

Last season he had 13 assists in the league this season he already has 6 and not midway yet despite him missing a few games at the beginning.

The same Juan Mata who has excelled playing behind David Villa and Soldado but when it comes to Torres everyone stopped knowing how to play

Lampard that was a ball of fire stopped knowing how to play, Mata that was assisting and still assiting in bucketloads stopped that, Oscar Hazard that is assisting in bucketloads stopped doing that.

ALL THESE WHEN THEY STARTED PLAYING WITH TORRES

debosky: Yawn - so even when Torres wasn't on the pitch, MAZACAR couldn't make runs for themselves and produce the alleged 'flurry of passes'? Shebi Torres is the problem?

Torres is the problem because Torres is the striker the person who should receive passes

I see - so there were only 'a couple' of chances created (2 shots on goal)? Again I ask, why didn't they create a 'flurry of chances' since the single impediment called Torres was absent? Is there a law that says 'short passes' cannot create goals?

Two shots on goal in an entire game, Torres only coming on in the 71st minute and he is the problem.

This is taking daft to a new low. How many chances do you expect Chelsea to create vs Juventus in Turin?

How many chances did Chelsea of Last season create against Bayern in Munich, or against Barcelona in Nou Camp where they played a similar tactic to the one deployed in Turin

Turin is one of the toughest destinations in Europe. A team that won Serie A unbeaten, An Italian team? The Italian Champion? The best Italian team currently you are expecting 15 clear chances on their goal? If I need to be telling you that then really HOW LOW CAN WE GO?