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« #12 on: Yesterday at 12:45:13 PM »
People do not seem to understand the value of letting sleeping dogs lie.

« #29 on: Yesterday at 06:09:22 PM »
kabukabu, you don't know what you're talking about. I'll reiterate, people do not seem to understand the value of letting sleeping dogs lie.

ChinenyeN:
Ezeagu, are you really going to spend your time attempting to explain this issue to those blinded by bullshit '21st-century' mentality?

ChinenyeN:
See these 'progressives'; all talk.

ChinenyeN:
Why are people even bothering with these blind-minded 'this-is-21st-century' people? You know, there is one thing we must understand, and that is that there are some topics in which no amount of explaining will change anything. This is one of those.

ChinenyeN:
Ngwa, marry osu now, so that we can finally have peace, or will heaven and earth not rest until you all talk us to death? Oh, ye 'progressive'. If you actually understood this Osu issue, then trust me, you would not be making these comments that you're making now.

ChinenyeN:
I am truly tempted to say that you have no idea whatsoever what Osu is.

ChinenyeN:
Justify what stance? I hope you aren't assuming that I actually have a stance on this topic.

Oh, one can easily infer from the above what your stance is.

Dede1:
@deadie

"Let me start by saying that I am not an Osu or Umeh or whatever. My dad is a traditional ruler who is in support of the Osu caste system. I remember having a discussion with him once about it, which ended up making him really mad."


The above crap in bold came from you. If a dullard such as you could not have a harmless discussion on a subject matter such as Osu with you so-called traditional ruler father, I seriously doubt if you could muster the courage to convince anybody befriend Osu talk less a jackass such as you proposing to one

Well, my dad is as stubborn people like you, especially trying to educate him whilst still a boy. As you know, or maybe you don't, older people in our culture always consider younger ones as having little knowledge. I cannot monster courage to convince anybody? I wouldn't be responding to a reta.rd like who doesn't know his otherwise. Each of your post illustrates your confusion. Could you just answer the simple question of whether or not you support Osu? ChinenyeN is brave enough to make his stand known. Grow a pair.

ChinenyeN:
I've done enough explaining in my own lifetime, so I'll save myself the trouble of explaining and point you in a good direct. A good place to start would to read Ezeagu's responses to certain posters' comments, in this very topic. Then read through these topics:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-195145.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-428447.0.html
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-578138.0.html

I asked you to educate me, not because I do not know the story of Osu, but for you to justify your stance. The justification for my stance is that it is immoral and archaic, and was one dark side of our culture, just like slavery is to Europeans and Americans. Thus my request for you to educate me is an implicit call for you to justify your stance.

Dede1:
@deadie

I do not cross words with latent fools such as you. If certain cross-section of South Africans allowed themselves to be identified wrongly, then every loudmouthed nincompoop such as you should accepted it.

I guess your so-called royal father still practices the rituals that gave rise to Osu. Presently, the act of slavery does not exist in USA yet it does not remove the fact that certain African Americans are publicly proclaimed as sons, daughters, grand and great grandchildren of slaves. In fact, these African Americans will voluntarily inform any ear that they are of slave parentage.

There is no doubt a dumbarse such as you can not afford a wife I would have urged you to marry an Osu. Anybody who thinks Osu can be wished away is a compound fool.

Here is what you said before:

Osu is a machination of unfortunate circumstance and I am glad such practice has been terminated in Igbo land.

You just proved what you are, a classic m.oron. Except in your mind that blackness translates to negativity, I don't see why u should have a problem with that. I am black and have no problem being described as such. What's up with you and your denial/contradictions? Stick to an opinion and stop flip flopping.

ChinenyeN:
I am truly tempted to say that you have no idea whatsoever what Osu is.

Exactly, that is why I asked you to educate me on the subject.

ChinenyeN:
Ngwa, marry osu now, so that we can finally have peace, or will heaven and earth not rest until you all talk us to death? Oh, ye 'progressive'. If you actually understood this Osu issue, then trust me, you would not be making these comments that you're making now.

Whites enslaved our forefathers because they took them to be less human. Tell me, I still don't get it, what exactly did the Osu's do, or what do we take them as that has outlived slavery? What are their sins that is beyond redemption? Please, educate me. And did I mention to you, I am a true believer of Igbo culture. This has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, which I have little or no believe in.

ChinenyeN:
See these 'progressives'; all talk.

You live in your little world and need to suffer discrimination. I read your posts and it is sad to know that young people still support this system. Tell me, what makes you different from an Osu? If you think bad aspects of culture should not be discarded, then why are we no longer killing twins? It is a shame young people with this kind of mentality bears human DNA. I thought evolution would have taken care of this.

Dede1:
Any unfortunate hand, such as Osu, dealt to us by circumstances beyond our control can not be easily swept under the rug. I would love to see these loudmouthed punks throwing abuses on the Internet to actually marry Osu unless they are Osu. The funny thing is Osu will stop at nothing to marry Diala. Should such Osu be accused of discrimination?

Yeah, this is coming from someone who said Osu has been terminated in Igbo land. Is is denial or are you just too d.umb to remember your own stance on issues?

Dede1:
It is very apparent that mad person would be the first to call a sane person mad. I must be ashamed to even reply to a post by an idiotic troll such as you. You are a latent dullard who would refer to Africans as “black” and still frown at Osu. It is beyond the pale of comprehension to identify an individual with hue yet a nincompoop indulged.

It is only in the figment of your deluded imagination that every African in USA would be regarded as slave. Why would Obama be termed a slave? Is his Irish American mother or Kenyan father a slave? It is a moronic slowpoke such as you would jump to such idiotic postulation.   

Osu is a machination of unfortunate circumstance and I am glad such practice has been terminated in Igbo land. It is wasteful thing to run your putrid mouth when a punk such as you could not break the stigma in your autonomous community where you loftily claimed a father as  “king”. It is not unfortunate a jerk such as you have not pronounced your intention to marry Osu. You can not even engage your self acclaimed royally father in civil and harmless discussion of Osu issue talk less of proposing to one

If you can not possibly marry Osu to backup your irrelevant rant on Internet, I urge you to shut the hell up.

You are a latent dullard who would refer to Africans as “black” and still frown at Osu.

Africans are White, right? In South Africa for instance, how do you differentiate Africans from European settlers? They are not called European South African's, they are are called Whites, and the Africans blacks. Hope that has sunk into your thick skull.

It is only in the figment of your deluded imagination that every African in USA would be regarded as slave. Why would Obama be termed a slave? Is his Irish American mother or Kenyan father a slave?

Again, you reveal your poor level of understanding. In my original post, I said if slavery still existed in the US, Obama would be a slave. So African's living in the US weren't slaves? Were biracial children in the US during the slave era not treated as one? I doubt you know a thing about slavery.

Osu is a machination of unfortunate circumstance and I am glad such practice has been terminated in Igbo land.
Oh really, it has been terminated? So why are the royal fathers meeting and why are we having this conversation?

It is wasteful thing to run your putrid mouth when a punk such as you could not break the stigma in your autonomous community where you loftily claimed a father as  “king”.

Again, you typify your poor level of understanding. Where in my posts did I refer to my father as a King? I guess you do not know the meaning of a traditional ruler.

If you can not possibly marry Osu to backup your irrelevant rant on Internet, I urge you to shut the hell up. 
How exactly do you know that?

You seem to be confused frankly. One post, you sound like you support the system and the next you like it is an injustice that exists no more. It is wrong, and can never be justified.

Dede1:
I must state categorically that any form of ignorance displayed on this discuss comes from you. You are not only ignorant to the soul but deluded to the nature. You simply can not eat your cake and have it.

You elucidated two schools of thought that tend to contradict your goofy believes about the issue in question. If you publicly accepted the tradition, via your father as traditional ruler and freedom of religion which saw the creation of Osu and still call out those who cherish their religion and culture with moderations, I say you are yet to find your self. It is matter of delusion for you to remotely call Obama, whose grandfather was traditional ruler in Kenya, a slave.

Since you are a self acclaimed prince, thus you father is a traditional ruler as stated, I suggest you blaze the trail by marrying Osu from your autonomous community. It is very funny you wrote about education or lack thereof. Again, I resourcefully say you have no business talking about “education”. I am quite sure you are also deluded about the word-education. By the way, the secondary education I received from my forebears was to understand the dictates of Igbo culture and tradition. In fact, I did not need the four walls of European-styled curriculum to comprehend my space.

Whether you are an Osu or Diala, marriage requires stringent family background investigation unless you are such an imbecilic m.oron who would murder prudence on the altar of stupidity called anti-discrimination.  Nobody has stopped Osu from achieving personal goals in Igboland. Some of the Osu have become anything from school headmaster to governor in Igboland. Who is the fool talking about discrimination?

You are the biggest mo.ron if you do not understand the point I was making. Obama would have been a slave in today's America because he is black. Is that too difficult to comprehend?

thosedays:
They should end it in their respective families NOT in Igbo Land.

Metalgoong:
Who wants to marry an osu? Never!!

Dede1:
I am not surprised that the lady mentioned in article, Chioma Adeoye, who seems to spearhead the futile effort on Osu is married to a Yoruba man. Any Eze that allowed his family to get involved in OSU issue shall cease to be royalty. The practice that gave rise to Osu system is no longer obtainable in Igboland. Those trying very hard to extricate themselves from the unfortunate cultural maker should be very careful not to rekindle the awareness.

ChinenyeN:
People do not seem to understand the value of letting sleeping dogs lie.

panteleonk:
God forbid, i will never marry an osu or umeh, neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr it can never be abolished neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Let me start by saying that I am not an Osu or Umeh or whatever. My dad is a traditional ruler who is in support of the Osu caste system. I remember having a discussion with him once about it, which ended up making him really mad. The above quoted comments will probably resonate well with my father, but it I see it as the highest level of ignorance that one can display, especially in the 21st century. I am a very proud Igbo man, who really loves my culture. What I love most about us is that we are hardworking and believe in the freedom of religion.

However, this Osu system is probably what I hate most about our culture and anyone who promotes it deserve to be stuck in the slave trade era. I am not speaking from a religious point of view, I don't really consider myself a Christian. I consider myself more of a traditionalist, so why shouldn't I be in favour of the  age  old tradition?

I can't quite tell how Osu and Umeh originated. But let us argue that culture and tradition should be maintained and not changed. The consequence? Obama would be a slave. Every black man in the US would be a slave. I, living in Europe would be a slave. You think it is horrible right? Well, those were White people, doing it to people they considered were less human, so it should be easier to justify. Speak in favour of slavery in the civilised world now and they probably would put you in a museum as an archeological discovery. How about discriminating against your OWN brother, who speaks the same language and shares the same cultural value with you? That is the ultimate, the worst form of discrimination that you can do.

It is really sad that young and educated Igbos can espouse the views quoted above. It just shows that you guys are stuck in ignorance and deserve no place in a modern Igbo society. I salute the royal fathers for their stance. Time to end discrimination against our own. And for you guys who wish for the system to continue, I hope you travel out of your little world to where you would be discriminated against. Classic M.O.R.O.N.S.

God's business is the best business Come on guys, allow the man enjoy. The money was donated to him by his sheep, which most Nigerians unfortunately are.

Big a$$ Nissan Altima for sale. Picture tells the condition. In Lagos. 1.4 m. Not driven in Naija. Also on available is a 2009 Toyota Camry. 3.6m. First class condition.

For 1.4m I give u this rude big a$$ muda4cker

Well, maybe the Northerners will realise the dangers of the extremism posed by the "religion of Peace".

Darwin. Natural selection.

dayokanu:
^^ WHat about compensating the soldiers killed by Biafran soldiers in the midwest and SWest

Biafran soldiers only fought to defend themselves. In any situation, the aggressors are the ones to pay compensation. The Germans paid compensation to the French for their aggression despite some Germans losing their lives. In the case of the Biafrans, clearly, the aggressors were the Nigerian entity (all the aggressive none Igbo tribes i.e Hausa (evilest people on earth), Yoruba's, and their colonies (minorities in between) and everything the Biafrans did was to ensure their survival. It is time for Nigeria to pay for their inhumanity against the most peaceful Christian nation (Igbo's) in Africa.

lucabrasi:
they are on their own,and the good news is that as the days go by they are getting smaller in numberwait for it they are counting the 150 trillion
btw who is stopping you from going off to create your biafra

Waiting to collect the USD 150 trn first.

Just wish both groups can kill themselves to extinction. They are no good to this country. I rather be in the 'safe' hands of Boko haram than the Nigerian police. Hell, Nigerian police has killed more victims than the Boko's. If it was a civilian that was killed, chances are that we wouldn't know about it. It happens daily. The army probably belong to the same category, and treat civilians like filth when they get the chance. Please, kill urselfs, we might be better off.

As a former Biafran soldier, I am not interested in the peanut being offered by Jonathan. What is 1.5 billion s.tupid naira in comparison to the atrocities committed against the Biafrans? The federal government should rather pay USD150 trn (One hundred and fifty trillion United States Dollars) for the killings, violation, genocide, marginalization, exclusion, exploitation and deprivation channeled against the Igbo nation. This money will also serve as compensation for the economic progress that would have been achieved by the Biafran nation (easily surpassing Japan, Israel and China combined together) had the evil British empire not forced us to live with the wild wild North (a.k.a Buharistan).

I urge Jonathan to do the right. IMF, UN, World Bank, United Kingdom (I wish I can get my hands on that Lugard) should make the money available. Biafran shall seek independence if this conditions are not met within the shortest possible time. Otherwise, brace urself for the real Ogbunigwe  

Chai, lekwe nwoke Igbo aghola nwanyi! He wan even prepare bitter leaf soup. A nwuola m! Umunne, ngwere a gbaala aji!

My solution to depression? Do nothing. After a while you get used to it and it and depression becomes ur second nature. That way, u can turn depression to fulfilment :-)

Ok, so GEJ rigged in Bauchi State and got 1,000,000 votes less than Buhari? And Buhari didn't rig? Where are the more than 1,300,000 voters in Bauchi? There is no doubt GEJ rigged, but Buhari also rigged and there is a huge evidence of underaged voters in the North. Rigging is unfortunate, but there is no doubt that half of the northern votes probably came from cattle and under 10 voters.

Akosbaba:
sounds like appointing an al qaeda chieftain to judge osama's terror charges

82 years Northern Islamic cleric probing the massacre of Southern Christians? If this story is true at all, then I really will be skeptical about the mental capacity of Mr. President. An 82 yr old man should be retired. I am sure there are younger less religious fundamentalists who have the objectivity to hold that position. I wonder what GEJ studied for his PhD, moronism?

I was just telling this to my sister the other day. I HATE wig, weave on and attachment. I also hate the way Nigerian ladies put on make up. Frankly, I really don't care if my girl friend shaves her hair, just leave it clean. It is really disgusting the make up and other additions that most girls put on at times.

I can't say if Rocha's Okorocha is a good guy. HOWEVER, politicians will want to perform when they know that reelection is not automatic. I feel sad for my state Abia.

[quote author=EzeUche__ link=topic=655119.msg8214055#msg8214055 date=1303909527]Aba will neglected for another 4 years while T.A. Orji will focus on his own hometown.[/quote]Yes, he will focus on his hometown, buying all the properties there that is. Orji Uzor Kalu is a thief, but he is a saint compared to this guy.

In Nothern Nigeria
Draw some Prophet in Denmark = kill a Southerner/Christian
Hold beauty peagant = kill Southerner/Christian
Lose election = kill southerner/Christian
Christmas celebration = time to kill some infidels
"Insult the prophet" = kill more infidels

Yet, their slogan remains "Is-Lame is a religion of piss"

mikeujoel:
Nigeria we hail thee. Foolish old man at 51

LWKMD

lastpage:
The only thing we can do is LAUGH!
Its a kind of idiotic arrogance borne out of fanatical indoctrination!

I use to think "RELIGION" is strong enough a bond to "unite" people because God is above anyone but not for my HAUSA BROTHERS!


Tippy Top has been hammering at the "healthy competition" between Yorubas and Igbos!

Question is: ASIDE FROM THESE MURDEROUS ALMAJERIS,
*Show me one instance where IGBOS have beheaded YORUBAS for just being YORUBA or MUSLIMS, in the EAST?
*Show me one instance where YORUBAS have burnt IGBO HUMANS to death, just because they are IGBOS or Christians?

We can have disagreements on anything (politics, policies,e.t.c) but we will NEVER as a people, kill for the sake of Religion or Tribe!
(You need to see the fight between myself and I.K., when we were small!   )

Even the 1967 Civil war was an abberation instigated by Northerners! (and then co-opting Yorubas into it, through Awolowo's selfish interest, l must say! Like all elites, he wanted to rule over "a vast Nigeria" than a "smaller Oodua" country and thank the God of Justice, he never did!)

Go to Idumota, Badagry, Lekki, Ajegunle, Apapa and about every other place in Lagos and see how IGBOS flourish! Go to Onitsha and see YORUBAS inter-married and living happily with IGBOS, without any fear at all! That is the Nigeria of our dreams, not some fear-mongering, murderous poo-heads!
Your "divide-and-rule", fear mongering strategy does not hold at all.

That the YORUBAS will vote for GEJ (a S-South person), That the IGBOS would vote for GEJ, over Buhari or one Dele Momodu is a CLEAR INDICATION THAT NIGERIA IS NO LONGER THE NIGERIA OF YESTERDAY!
The divide and rule of the civil war days are beyond us in the South. [size=8pt]We share a common culture of respect for human life and welcoming strangers(non-natives) in our midst! Can we say the same of Northern Muslims?[/color]

GBAM! I hereby nominate you for the ODIDIGBOIGBO OF AFRICA  (Ibori is henceforth stripped of the title).

LeoMax:
Let them kill themselves who cares? And any Southerners who loves money more than life can live up North and die.

Any NYSC member ready to be a Corpse can venture into voting booth. I cant die for Nigeria, cos am dead already.

I agree with your comment but the highlighted quote. Those killed were not in poling booths, they went to their lodges and killed them. And there will continue to be more NYSC victims as long as they keep sending them to the north to serve. If the southern politician have brains at all, they should vote to scrap NYSC. The North will suffer most as they are the ones who benefit mostly from the exercise. Most of their schools lack teachers. And believe me, I was the only professional in my profession in the hospital where I served. Still, I could have been part of statistics.