₦airaland Forum

CGKing:
Of cause many of the critics are of that [/b]religion hence the hate. So we can live with that, just dont behead anyone, ok? Thank youuuuuuu!

This goes out to the real crtitics. Christ Embassy is full of entrepreneurs, business owners and very intelligent forward thinking men and women who know their beans. Feel me? They have enough sense to know what is right from wrong; these were the ones that bought the ticket to get into the venue, they were not swindled. They would have to be poor to be swindled of their monies. Pls stop calling them gullible, they are intelligent ppl. Only a poor or average man can be cheated. Now since the ones who bought the ticket didnt come complaining to u, common sense should tell u that there is a strange understanding going on here.

Now as christians [b]u should know that God is against judging his kids, let alone a Man of God. So y dont u calm down. stop been carnally minded and start thinking like christians. Ok see ya.

You are a m.oron, an ig.noramus, a f.ool. I will judge pastor Chris : he is a thief and you are his ambassador. And once again, people that paid the gate fee are naive, gullible, and mugus of the highest order. Please tell that thief what I said, I pray and look forward to being cursed by him, that will make my day! A$$holes.

biomes2001:
Joagbaje, Joagbaje, Joagbaje! How many times did I call you? Remember me, you vilified me last year because I told you your Pastor Chris is a fake , a freemason and a satanist who was being used by the Freemasons, Illuminatis and the vatican ,along side other fake pastors like Oyedepo, T.B joshua, Benny Hinn, Ken Copeland, etc to decieve many like u in these last days. You called me a heretic but God is vindicating me gradually with recent scandalous events plaguing the apostle of satan posing as a man of God.

Hope you know that pastor Chris brother, who is also a pastor in Christ Embassy, was convicted in South Africa for fraud and from there he ran to U.S.A? Now here is the same fake pastor merchandizing the "word of God" in the guise of crowd control. Jesus always had MULTITUDE following him, yet where in the bible did he charge money as a means of crowd control, save your silly excuse for infants,we have come along way to be decieved with wet lies. Fact is that Chris is doing what his fellow false prophets around the world are doing,i.e, milking the innocent people their hard earned money in order to fund their luxurious and un-Christ-like lifestyle. I did a little arithmetic and discovered that if multiply N1000 by 25,000(the theatre capacity) you have N25,000,000.00 cool cash which this deciever has milked innocent people in one night. No wonder it was revealed that his ministry come business enterprise nets about $50,000,000.00 per anum,i.e, N7,500,000,000.00 in naira by N150 the current exchange rate. And ll these money will still be used to continue to fund his satanic mission, and people like u will provide a part of this fund, making you a share holder in their damnation which is fast approaching, REPENT now before its too late, my beloved brother.

The truth of the gospel was summarised by our Lord Jesus when He says:"FREELY YOU RECIEVED AND FREELY YOU SHALL GIVEThe gospel should be for free,NO MATTER THE REASON, that is the doctrine of Christ. But God is exposing false prophets to the agile minds, because by "their fruits you shall know them". You retaliate agressively to this post, but one thing I promise you is that the day God will finally disgrace and expose this your pastor Chris, I'll personally fish you out wherever you may hide and only God knows what I'll do to you

I have said it a million times. You will think people will get wiser with time, but the opposite is unfortunately what is happening, the keep getting dumber. I keep asking the question but they refused to answer it, who is paying for the private jets, exotic cars, houses and flamboyant lifestyles that these "pastors" live? The poor sheep?

seun222kun:
No doubt,
Your own na Strong and Tight Envy they worry you.

Where REAL people are talking, you are too close up and shutdown your gulter.

Why don’t you  go and start your own church, since is a big business now, like the bank ceo you talk about,
What you first NEED is Salvation, not to judge others,  Strong , NEPI!

Envy? LOL. In my post, I asked for a REASONABLE argument against my point, but you offered none. I don't have to start a church (read fraudulent business). Don't talk like a kid and talk to me about salvation and similar craps. You should have known from my posts that I don't belong to the category of people that can be ripped of by such words. Once again, you are free to raise a reasonable argument about my earlier post and I will assume that a complete concordance with my opinion in the absence of such. Once again, I will repeat it, Pastor Chris and other similar "pastor" with no other source of income but their church (business) are complete fraud.

seun222kun:
Disappointed at me?

What does your disappointing has to do with me?
,  if you are a good nairaland born again Christian, you will know that guys here have tried all they can to bring down God’s present manifestation in his to day’s ministry. What have you done about it?

What are you talking about henchmark? It will not surprise me if you are not one of them.
Okay, ticket was sold, well. Ask your self (henchmark), if it was a mistake or a wrong the church has done. What is your duty as a fellow Christian? Are you to join others to start tearing down the church? Or you will intercede on behave of the church?

Look henchmark whatever you call yourself, I am a Christian and i will stand for that any where, any time AND I will do any thing good to defend this Christianity in my generation. If i come cross any Christian today, who did some thing wrong, as long as he bear the name Christian i will stand by him. Not because he is a man, but because he bears the same name with me (CHRISTIAN)

When I look at all of you, who come up here to talk bad against the church of God, because of one wrong or mistake the church did, and you call yourself fellow Christian, i just laugh. (the church is not for perfect people, the church is for perfecting people)

( Ephesians 4:12 (King James Version)
12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ

Take a good look at the Muslim; they can go to any length to protect their own, weather he is wrong or not.
But ‘Christians’, when they see a Christian that did some thing wrong, they will be the first to spread the news.
Judge yourself (henchmark )today, if you call yourself a member of the body of Christ, what have you done to preserve this body, that is if you are not among those that are killing it.

So,  henchmark,  Since according to you I am not a Christian, because i render abuses, what have you done in this issue on ground now that allow people to talk bad against Christianity.

Will you join them to judge too? You will step outside and pray?

Romans 8:33 – 34 (33Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.)

So tell me, what are you bringing out here? (henchmark )

Hey shut up. Pastor Chris and his likes who milk the naives are pure fraud. And don't tell me crap about how are "men of God". They run a business empire and their customers are being duped, plain and simple. What is the source of income of these "pastors"? Prove to me with  a reasonable argument the difference between these churches and any other business, then pastors  and bank CEO's. They own their private jets, exotic cars and homes, probably millions if not billions in their bank accounts. Tell me then how the F#¢k they are not businessmen. Either u are part of the fraud or just a friggin m.o.r.o.n.

CGKing:
I think i understand the mentality of these critics. I now know they will never ever see anything good, nor make any good comment about ppl like Pastor Chris. No matter what he does. Even if Pastor Chris gives nigerians unlimited and uninterupted power supply, they still will find some nasty thing to say. So just leave them.

So much power and influence in the hand of another man gets to them cos they tried to get there for so long. The despondent will ever be at war with the wealthy. Make una cheer up.

I understand you . . . you are just doing your job.
But who said Nigerians are not the biggest Maga in the world and Pastor Chris the biggest Guyman?

Pastor Chris Oyak's (and other pastors) favorite secret song:
Maga's keep paying . . .
. . . shout Allelujah (copyright Kelly Handsome)

And save ur time if u plan telling me not to insult "ordained men of God" except you saw where and when God himself ordained them.  Or you can tell me why being a "man of God" is an occupation.

[quote author=petres_007 link=topic=580005.msg7475669#msg7475669 date=1294334453]oh, really?? [/quote]For real. Have anyone been there? NO.
Where is this heaven? Somewhere up in the sky.
And hell? Somewhere down.
And how come you believe it? Cos someone has been hammering it into ur head since you were a kid. I bet if the content of your brain was wiped out right now and someone came to you with such a story, you will laugh at him. The only people who keep propagating this lie are those who benefit from it.

IrunmoleD1:
@deadie

Let me re-phrase;

It's a crazy living, hope it's better when you're dead.

Happy?

Well, better. When u are dead, nothing bothers u. As for the heaven part, believe, it is the greatest piece of fiction in human history.

IrunmoleD1:
Guys, don't take it personal, it's a crazy world, hope it's better in heaven

Heaven? Muslims use it to wage Jihad, Christians use it to rip the naive, how can it be true?

Announcement

Christ Embassy Nigerian Limited in conjuction with other corporations viz: Winners Chapel, Redeem (RCCG), etc are organising a joint prayer night. Details are as follows:
Gate fee : N5000 (for crowd control)
Participation fee: Free, but bring your tax (sorry tythe) and contribution to the needy.
Remeber: God loves a cheerful   giver.
Expect abundant miracles!!!!!

And don't listen to the comments of unbelievers criticizing how we own private jets, exotic cars and choice mansions , , remember that we are the "the servants of the Lord" and YOU are well, the sheep

nvo5:
blame it on the economic situation of our dear country. Na poverty dey cause am
everyone wants to make it big, the quickest way to make it, is to open a church.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TRUE MEN OF GOD, men who truly love GOD

Before I agree that someone is a true "man of God", he must have a source of income and must not (including family, friends and relatives) take a kobo from the coffers of the church, then I will agree that such person is a man of God. In the absence of that, they are a bunch of crooks ripping their willing customers. I wish I could get back ALL the money that I ever gave to the church when I still attended one, I am sure it is well below N10,000, but it will be nice to have it back.  As per going to spend 5 hrs listening to someone interprete a thousand yr old book, I will, if I am paid  

Indian charm Chai, this man no suppose dey do this kain work at all

seyibrown:
It wasn't compulsory to be there! Those not happy with the fee could have watched from home or from a designated centre. It is NOT COMPULSORY TO GIVE TO GOD OR GOD'S WORK! Some people put in their time FOR NO PAYMENT to make that event possible! Some people too can put in SOME MONEY to enjoy the work of those who put in their time! Giving IS NOT BY FORCE and God is not constrained to THAT PARTICULAR VENUE!

[quote author=crabs_oyst link=topic=580005.msg7473130#msg7473130 date=1294312923]NLanders, why do we take every opportunity to slander Men of God and God's work, see I tell you this tins are beyond us, the Man of God has good reasons and I believe based on this, he is justified, forget all other thoughts. When u drop your offering in church, do u go back and request for accountability or request dat church accounts be audited,[/quote]All pastors are thief! QED. Show me the God and I will give him the money myself. The only difference between pastors and fraudsters is that they steal ur money legally.

nakedall:
na ppl wey carry their legs go there be fool.

I couldn't agree more. I will pay that amount to go see a comedian than see religious actors  

F you and your F'ing God or Allah or whatever he is called if he supports the death of innocents

dSolution is a frigging m.oron. What does posting a gory picture of an accident (a lorry ran across the victims unknowingly as they were made to lie on the road by armed robbers) got to do with Islamic terrorism? Friggin m.oron.

honeric01:
^^^^^^

Don't preach to me about police, i have had my own fair share with the police, but that does not mean what i said about the average Nigerian attitude to the police is not on spot. the more you hate the police, the more the line is drawn and the more they misbehave.

The police didn't just get bad all of a sudden, its because of the way alot of people have neglected them, the government did the same too, the police are all by themselves, they are parents to your neighbors, they aren't ghost, alien, they didn't fall from the sky, they are all your neighbor.

So look at it this way, how do you treat your neighbor? if you are hostile to your neighbor, he/she himself is going to be hostile to you, that's the case of the police,

They got neglected, in turn, they took it out on those who neglected them, and who are the people who neglected them? you and i of course.

My guy, I feel like writing something that would be offensive to you but I will try and hold myself back. So the victim is now the guilty party right? And how did we NEGLECT them? The minimum salary for an entry level policeman was around N27,000 when the minimum wage was about 8000. Do they get owed salary like teachers? How exactly do we neglect them and what exactly are we supposed to do, buy them ice-cream when we see them? I have no reason to be nice to the police, it should have nothing to do with the way they carry out their duties, except if there is need to provide them information that will help solve a crime, which is least of their priorities. So how exactly have we neglected them? Should we smile at them when they stop you for 2 hrs looking at ur F'ing car papers? Even if I squeeze my face whenever I see a policeman, it should have nothing to do with how they F'ing carry out their job. If you go to the bank and squeeze ur face at the teller, will she not pay you? So, it is insulting to blame the victim. eExactly what are we) supposed to do, F'ing bow when we see them?

honeric01:
Some Nigerians don't get it, you don't hate the police and at the same time want them to work well or like you.


The more you hate the police, the worse they become,

Make a police man your friend today, see the positive behavioral changes you get from them tomorrow.

When someone hates you like poo, you are naturally going to hate the person back,

Stop making police a case of YOU AND THEM, stop making them see you as them and seeing themselves as some alien.


Someone on this thread must be indirectly related to at least one police officer.

Uhmm, correct me, so it is our fault that they are behaving badly right? Let me tell you a true story that happened to my brother. He bought a new car in Lagos and was driving back to the East. Some policemen begged him at a checkpoint close to Lagos if he could give a lift to their colleague to Onitsha. He agreed and gave this fool a ride for FREE. When they got to Onitsha, the policeman asked to be SETTLED (close to a checkpoint), that he cleared the way for my brother . My brother went crazy because every document for the new car was available. He screamed at this guy and attracted the attention of passerby. The guy was lucky or people for lynch am.

I did not know about this incident until one day when I was driving with my brother to PH and some policemen in a checkpoint asked my brother if he could give a ride to their colleague when they ascertained where we were going. My brother told them he couldn't. I was shocked and a little scared because it was only the both of us, but my brother refused. It was when we left that he told me his experience. Guy, make the police your best friend if you want, but I will rather buy me a dog

Islam is a "Religion of Peace!" Uhm, sorry, does that sound like an irony

violent:
Oh well, thankfully, Christian Bible orders have been reduced to just two:

Love God

Love your neighbors! it even went further to say if someone slaps a cheek, turn the other cheek. . . shows the extent to which Christianity advocates tolerance.

Apparently the ones who claim to be custodians of peace don't share this same school of thought, to them we'd either blow you up or cut you to pieces simply because "you don't believe in our god, and it is the right thing to do"

Oh well, if someone is crázy enough to fix bomb in his/her pants, walks into a tube station and then rants "allahu akbar" before exploding into a few thousand pieces. . .why should the world let nationals of such country gain an exposure to a nuclear device?. . It's not oppression, it's called "Being careful lest the whole world go up in flames"

Oh man, you just won the arguement on that one. I guess I used to think Iran have the right to "The Bomb", but you got me thinking that I'm DEAD WRONG.

kabukabu50:
He should get a good lawyer and sue the police dept and the city government,there should be an investigation and the officers involved should be fired,as they seem to lack competence to do their job effectively,the city should pay his medical bills and this will be a lesson to future stalwart police officers on the street

LWKMD. How long have you been living in the US?

Zeddicus:
Nonsense Goats! They just wanted to take the guy to the station by any means and collect their 3k 'i no follow' fee. I have been made to pay 8k after staying in their cell for 2 freaking days!! My offence? trying to rectify my street's light issues(which i normally do). They termed it vandalisation of government property! There was also a time they caught me travelling with my laptop without reciept, the fools were insisting that i have to pay 10k else i will be taken to the station and arraigned for stealing. After pleading with them for a while, i got angry and said okay lets go to the station(afterall the reciept was at home). They began dilly-dallying on who will take me there. Then a barrister in the bus, who had been silent all this while, came down and talked with them. That was how i escaped without paying a dime. So my boys and girls, Police is NOT your friend! I never wish the bad ones among them well and thats like 90% of them! Rant Over!

Ehmm bros eh, u be police? Seems you are trying to launder the image (rebranding campaign) of the Nigerian Police. How can you put the figure at 90% when it is actually 99.99 percent. Haba, if 10 percent of the police are good, we for don see the effect. And the good 0.001% appear to mostly be on vacation.

AIRDIG:
I join all Nigerians, Muslims, Christians and other faith group alike to unequivocally condemn the Violence in Jos in the strictest of terms.

I commiserate with those affected by the carnage and look forward to Nigerians working together across the faith community to defeat this common enemies. They will be defeated.

I equally distance myself from the hate-inciting utterance of those who accuse Muslims generally. I refuse to subscribe to the groupthink of blaming group of over 50 million people for the crime of a handful of hate-mongering extremists.

I look forward to a capable leadership in 2011, so that Jos can go back to the good neighborliness and interfaith cordiality that existed way back up to the early 90s _ _ _yes, even among the xtians & the muslims

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD0OHnDDXqY

I will not submit myself to the error of hasty generalisation, neither will I blame a man for the sin that was not committed in his name.

PARALLELS_ _ _
Are there Nigerian drug barons & 419ers?
Do they consult with you b4 defrauding others?
Are you culpable of the crimes?
Will you take the blame for the crime perpetrated?
What have you done personally to curb this menace?
THINK ABOUT IT!!!

barons & 419ers do not commit their crime in the name of Nigeria, your terrorist commit their crime in the name of religion and they are mostly abated, tolerated and encouraged by your religious leaders and find justification in your 'holy' book. So tell me, shall we blame it on the Igbos?

Mobinga:
Google Itself

Uhmm, Ok, I take the first one

A police man asked my friend who was acting like a big boy during a stop and search "You don hear about accidental discharge"? My friend coupled himself and behaved like a zombie to orders afterwards. There is a simple solution to the problem of the Nigerian Police: FIRE ALL OF THEM and create a new police from scratch. The corruption and indiscipline is too endemic. It has been done before, in Georgia. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4849472 But our politicians would not do a thing of sort, a corrupt and undisciplined police is an asset.

I read about a GEJ campain bus that was caught with a lot of arms (13 guns), the police announced shortly afterwards that it was ONLY one gun (Pump action) and that it was licensed. I am not using this to attack GEJ in any way so don't think I am an Atiku supporter (I think he is worse), but this shows you how corrupt the police is and how such a police favours politicians and their supporters.

Lugard, oh Lugard, you see what you done?

I can say without a doubt that those pictures are the most horrible thing that I have EVER seen in my life. How can any human, Christian or muslim do that to another human? See the skull of a CHILD cut open? HORRIBLE! Humans roasted. This is repulsive. If Islam is a religion of Peace, how come this sort of thing only happens in the Muslim north? This is a sick, it is a shame I belong to the same country with animals. I am glad from the Muslim-free tribe part of the country.

Don't sweat about the mass failure. The result is skewed because of the contribution of the NORTHERN part of the country. They do quite well at blowing things up/

tbaba1234:
Normally i would just ignore this statement, Because it just shows ignorance of the contributions of muslims to algebra, technology, medicine, architecture , philosophy at the peak of the islamic civilisation. This was a period where the church actually stifled development in the west, it wasn't until the separation of church and state that the west actually started developing. Do a little research.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_world

I am a muslim, and i do have a bunch of non-muslim friends,  If you even look at the life of the prophet you would find out that even christians that visited him were allowed to carry out their services in the mosque. What do you have against people saying 'God is Great' in the mosque. You show your hate on iraq, but forget that they were invaded on a lie. I do not support hamas but neither do i support the israel,  The palestians have suffered untold injustice, driven out of their homes, massacred. and 20% of palestinians are christians, so it is not even a religious battle,  

I would have you know that arabs make up only 10% of muslim population, and there are numerous multi-religious communities that exist in peace in the muslim world. However, i accept there is a vocal minority with extremist ideologies, I do think it is wrong to use the same brush to paint 1.5 billion people.

Islam didn't cause the church inquisitions, or the world wars or the belfast bombings,

Nobody likes to see the innocent die, but if you want to find out about islam, read the Quran,  Instead of basing your convictions on  the actions of a few.

I know some people would hate unconditionally, no matter what i say

Allah subhanahu wa ta’ala says what means in the Quran,
“Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; but turn away from the ignorant”.

He subhanahu wa ta’ala also says what means,
“And when they hear vain talk, they turn away therefrom and say: ‘To us our deeds, and to you yours; peace be to you: we seek not the ignorant.’

Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) said
“The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by his strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger.'

Thank you
Peace.

Yea right, those happened many years ago and the Nazi's  paid for their crime. Tell me, which other religion practices religious terrorism? Only Islam. And for those of you arguing that it was not carried out by muslims, they have already set up a website claiming responsibilty. Islam is an outdated religion invented by men who were probably hallucinating from being beaten silly by the desert sun. What a religion that cannot entertain contrary opinion, prevents its followers from converting, declares war over nothing, legally accepts paedophilia, oppresses women, the list is endless. You guys deserve your own country, somewhere in the desert North were you can blow each other up faster. I wonder who will provide you virgins since they are all getting married at 6 yrs. Guess day olds will count. Aturu.

I cannot bear to read people write how Islam is a "Religion of Peace", and other similar rubbish after every terrorist attack. It is better to just shut up and not insult the victims. Islam is the most wicked religion ever invented, with clear support for terrorism against non believers and its support of paedophiles. I can't fathom how such a religion, which ought to have been confined to the desert still has followers whose lives are dictated by some herb smoking fellow who lived in the cave a thousand centuries ago.

olabukola:
Weep not, Nigeria as it is will remain like this unless you all join Islam.

I doubt this F.O.O.L read the wikileaks report that show corruption up to the door of Ya'ardua. And as for your preaching for all to join Islam, I will - when I am ready to bring down a plane. But until then, take your Islam and shove it up your rear entry.

olabukola:
@deadie
What have u achieved with your education and riches. Is it not insulting for an illitrate poor to be leading the litrate rich. Go figure. Yes i mean it Islam is coming to south east and its coming fast. Do you know we have sharia law in London? if we can in UK SE is just a work over. Islam has taken my state(Kwara) and we are going to take the whole SW. Nigeria is a member of IOC go figure. Remember SE were defeated 40 yrs ago it means christians are defeated as well cus they made the large %ed of xtians in Nigeria.

What I have achieved with my education and riches is that the life of the average Southerner is way better than that of the Northerner. Read my post, I said there are a few Nothern elites, but the majority of the persons are illiterate, poor, disease prone, high maternal mortality due to illiteracy and paedophilic men marrying kids, high infant mortality, kids dying from lead poisoning like rats, death from Boko haram and other Islamic terrorists, etc. Now tell me, is that your dream town? And it is [b]walk ove[/b]r, not [b]work ove[/b]r  .  Sharia in SE? LWKMD. I am not even gonna answer that. UK has muslim population, Igbos don't. We are smarter than practicing a religion that encourages paedophiles such as yourself and Sani Yerima