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Whether Ikwerre is Igbo or not Igbo, I honestly do not give a ratarse to such inconsequential rant. However, it must be recalled that Etche people have adamantly and unequivocally maintained being Igbo. There was a road from Port Harcourt town to Etche LGA named Igbo road. A new road has been constructed and yet maintains the name of Igbo road while old one is also renamed Old Igbo road.

I wished there should be a catalog of Ikwerre people who have denied their ethnical identity as Igbo.

ChinenyeN:
and Mr. Ikechukwu A. Ogu is from where?

Mr. Ikechukwu A. Ogu is from Aba-Ngwa   

The madness being currently played out in Nigeria should be stopped. Granted Nigerians are very different culturally from one ethnicity to another and often display animalistic behavior, Ndigbo should not allow the inherent stupidity perpetrated in northern region of Nigeria by deluded Mohammedans to affect one of the core values Igbo people hold dear.

Ndigbo take pride in defending and protecting the guests or visitors among them. The northerners in Igbo land loved the land and its people. Igbo people love the northerners in Igbo land too. Most northerners have shade away the northern Nigeria's lifestyle and have done everything humanly possible to integrate into Igbo culture including marrying from the pool of Igbo girls.

I suggest strongly that every Igbo son and daughter contribute his or her infinitesimal effort to the disintegration of Nigeria. This will allow countries emerging from the rubbles of Nigeria to hold a country responsible if the citizens of a particular country subject the citizens of another country into the agony of lost properties and lives.

The threat of the possible war or the likelihood of sending commandos into another country to rescue its citizen is a diplomatic jigsaw to worry by both countries. I would suggest that a solution to the menace of Boko Haram is well-coordinated clandestine operation to foray deep into Muslim communities in northern region of Nigeria with one mindset to kill and destroy.

shymmex:
When did Boko Haram ever say Western education is forbidden??

You clowns just run with everything you see in the western media

The only thing they said was "IF WESTERN EDUCATION IS WHY THERE'S SO MUCH CORRUPTION, POVERTY AND UNDERDEVELOPMENT IN NIGERIA - THEN IT SHOUDL BE FORBIDDEN!"

Some of you just take things out context and run with it

Boko haramites are terrorists but y'all also need to stop spewing ignorance,

If we hear Boko Haram is a terrorist group we shall all jump and clap for you. In fact, I had taken them more for humans as Boko Haram if they were against certain European lifestyle than as terrorist. I may inquire why Islamic northern Nigerians should embark on terrorism. I guess because Islamized dimwits did not win presidential election in cesspit called Nigeria.

On your little contribution to Boko Haram, I suggest you snap out of stark ignorance, olodo.

@POST

If this picture is the true resemblance of the deranged maggot and so-called leader of Boko Haram decked out in a European style T-shirt and Denim pant, then northern region of Nigeria and its religion of Islam reek of hypocrisy. For posterity sake, Boko Haram in Hausa means “WESTERN EDUCATION, CULTURE AND CIVILIZATION ARE EVIL AND FORBIDDEN”. One would have expected this nincompoop to, at least, appear in a cowhide.

xtianh:
Innocent chukwuma, is nt making any mistake by building his factory in Enugu cus Enugu state government is among or if not the only government agency patronising his products in a very larg form.

I guess you could say the same about Imo State.

Kobojunkie:
[size=13pt]Governor Okorocha, where are the jobs in Imo State?[/size]

http://www.modernghana.com/news/375676/1/governor-okorocha-where-are-the-jobs-in-imo-state.html

Last week, the leader of Ohaneze, Kano State Chapter, Chief Tobias Idika denied media reports that Imo State Governor,Owelle Rochas Okorocha visited Kano and met with Ndigbo in Kano over the plight of Igbos in Kano after the Boko Haram attack. 'The report is false and insensitive to the plight of Ndigbo” said the Ohaneze Chairman. “Okorocha did not enter Sabon Gari to see anybody. He came for his own political business. He did not come to see Ndigbo. He did not set foot in the community” said the visibly annoyed Ohaneze leader .According to Okorocha's media men, the governor of Imo State arrived the city of Kano and held meetings with Igbos in Kano including ”his people living at Sabon Gari” where he discovered that no Igbos were killed in the black Friday attack.

All I can say to this story is — Shame! Shame! Shame!!! Why will the Governor of Imo State make such callous statement that no Igbo were killed in such a drastic bomb attack? This story further exposes him as over desperate for people's applause. That is how he has been trying to manipulate the minds of Imo people so as to gain unmerited commendation through his rescue Imo sweet talks when all he has been doing is playing a game of deception and rescuing his own pockets. Too bad, for it is obvious that people's commendation does not come by chance. It takes doing the right things to get commended. You don't do the wrong things and expect the masses to hail you.

[b]For the past 6 months,Okorocha has been speaking in tongues and proclaiming heaven that will become of Imo State . Every month he will send out a press release, promising Imolites heaven and earth. We have not witnessed anything that will call for a celebration. To get cheap popularity, he is using praise singers who are lying to the world that all is honky dory with Imo State. Our ears are sore with “we will build this and that” in place of “we have done this and that”.

You don't get the peoples praise when you are sending them out of jobs. Owelle sacked 10,000 Imo citizens since June last year and has adamantly refused to reinstate them.The 10,000 sacked workers are undergoing untold hardship as a result of the suspension of their jobs. They have severally staged an 'nzogbu-nzogbu' protest march to government house to see if they can get their jobs back but no way.We will keep demanding that Okorocha should recall the sacked 10,000 legally employed civil servants in Imo state. Have we not pushed 10,000 persons into kidnappings and armed robbery? It is highly insensitive to unjustly sack workers in a situation when labour market is already over-saturated. The sack of 10,000
workers in Imo state has gone down in history as a testimony of Okorocha's anti-poor, pro-rich programmes. This is the highest singular sack of workers in one full sweep in Imo State history by any government.[/b]

You don't get the peoples praise when you cannot give them jobs. You don't get the peoples praise when you are misusing state funds in relocating the peoples University to your village. Imo State unemployment rate has grown each month for the last six months, hitting 8.5 percent in January. Unemployment is the number one issue in Imo state today. In an SP poll, 89 percent of Imo citizens cited unemployment as the state's most important problem. Imo people need jobs. That is how they can put food on the table. Unemployed graduates, unemployed construction workers, unemployed engineers, unemployed teachers, unemployed security guards, unemployed cooks, unemployed waiters and those desperate for a job in Imo can no longer wait. Job is number priority in Imo State. Okorocha, where are the jobs?

continued . . . . . . . . .

Word on the bolded.

manchy7531:
This is a rejoinder to Mr. Okachikwu Dibia’s article entitled “Ikwerre-Igbo Relationship As Seen By Ohaneze Nd’Igbo” published on www.gamji.com wherein he attacked a comment reportedly made by the President of Ohaneze Nd’Igbo, Chief Ralph Uwechue, that the Ikwerres are Igbos who now deny their true ethnic identity. It is an established fact that there are indigenous Igbo-speaking peoples in Rivers, Delta, Edo and Cross River States. My mission here is not to urge the Ikwerres and other Igbos who behave like to admit being Igbo. Rather, I intend to correct some historical gaffes, deliberate distortions and logical fallacies contained in Mr. Dibia’s write-up, and state the truth as I know it.

It amuses me when indigenes of Igbo-speaking communities outside the South-East deny their Igbo identity. The Ikwerres, represented by the likes of Okachikwu Dibia, are the fiercest and most strident in this act of playing the ostrich. The renowned writer Elechi Amadi, an Ikwerre man, restated this renunciation before the Oputa Panel in 2004 but was reminded of his Igbo name. Ironically, he is quoted to have upheld the Igbo origin of Ikwerres in one of his writings. Howbeit, Igbos in South-East Nigeria justifiably regard the Igbo-speaking areas of Rivers State (Ikwerre, Etche, Ogba, Ekpeye, Opobo, Ahaoda, Ndoni, Egbema, etc) as their kith and kin. On the other hand, the Ijaws and other non-Igbos of Rivers State also rightly refer to these communities as Igbos, and even claim that Rivers State has been under Igbo rule since 1999!

Generally, a person’s native name, mother-tongue, pedigree and ancestral geographical location define his race. But this may not be so in cases where an individual bears a name and speaks a language unrelated to the one associated with his ancestors. However, when the indigenes of an entire community speak as their mother tongue a language associated with a particular race, bear names borne only by persons of that race, share boundaries with communities within that race and have traditions similar to theirs, then the inescapable conclusion is that they belong to that race. This is the place of Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities in Rivers, Delta, Edo and Cross River States vis-à -vis the Igbos of the South-East. The Austrians and indigenes of Sudetenland in Czech Republic speak German, bear German names, have traditions similar to those of the Germans and share boundaries with Germany, although they find themselves in distinct countries. This is also true of the Yoruba-speaking peoples found in Edo, Kogi and Kwara States as well as in Benin Republic. Just recently, a monarch from Benin Republic visited the Alaafin of Oyo and acknowledged his Yoruba roots.

Another exception to the above is where the community was a vassal to or colonized by the race whose language and names they speak and bear, as seen in Northern Nigeria where the Hausa-Fulanis have administrative and religious hegemony over many minority tribes sequel to Usman Dan Fodio’s 19th century jihad. Even so, indigenes of such a community still retain their native names, language and traditions.

Contrary to Mr. Dibia’s fictitious claim, there was no time in history that Nd’Igbo colonized or dominated the Ikwerres or any other community let alone imposed Igbo names on them. They never desired or attempted it. Owing to its republican and egalitarian nature, the Igbo race was never organized administratively as to colonize others. Had this happened prior to British rule in Nigeria, same would have been noticed and documented by the Europeans. Does Mr. Dibia regard the period when the entire South-East and South-South formed one Eastern Region of Nigeria as the period of Igbo colonization? That would be absurd. This warped idea means that, perhaps, only Ikwerres were so “colonized”, for no other community has alluded to it. If Nd’Igbo imposed the name Ikwerre on Mr. Dibia’s people, did they also force other communities to address them as such? The Hausas call the Afizere people of North-Central Nigeria and Igbos Jarawa and Nyamiri (corrupted form of nye m miri – Igbo expression for “give me water”) respectively, yet every other ethnic group calls them by their real names. Besides, some people have pet names for their towns, as the Aros call Arochukwu Okigbo. I presume this to be the case with the name Iwheruoha which Mr. Dibia claims as the original name for Ikwerre. What I know is that Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking peoples of Rivers State call Igbos of the South-East Isoma and vice versa.

Furthermore, was Ikwerre ruled by the 19th century King Jaja of Opobo, an ex-slave from Amaigbo in Imo State who transformed to king of Opobo (Igwe Nga) in present-day Rivers State? Even so, that is not tantamount to colonization by Nd’Igbo. However, the case of Jaja shows that some of the present-day non-Igbo indigenes of Rivers and Bayelsa States may be descendants of Igbo slaves who escaped exportation overseas and settled in the midst of Ijaws, gradually acquiring a semblance of the latter. For instance, a friend of mine from a community in Yenagoa told me that Igbo words and expressions constitute about seventy percent of their vocabulary.

History has not credited the Aros (Ndi-Aru) with colonialism, as we know it, although many of them travelled and settled around several parts of Igboland and beyond as merchants of goods and slaves and messengers of the Long Juju. Prior to the advent of Christianity, the Long Juju was voluntarily employed by its Igbo and non-Igbo adherents for traditional adjudication, divination and resolution of spiritual problems; it was regarded then as the earthly abode of God (Ihu Chukwuabiama). Today, as a legacy of our interaction with Ndi-Aru, some families in my town bear names like Nwaru and Uzoaru, yet they neither colonized us nor had any settlement in my town.

Let Mr. Dibia tell us. Between what dates in history did Igbos colonize Ikwerres? Who were the Igbo administrators? Where, when and how did Nd’Igbo force Ikwerres to change their names? What are the non-Igbo names Ikwerres bore prior to the alleged colonization and forced name change? One wonders why Ikwerres have not changed Ogbako (Igbo word for gathering or meeting) to something like Rogbako to make it less Igbo. Did Nd’Igbo also “force” them in 1963 to use that word when they formed Ogbako Ikwerre Convention? Surprisingly, Mr. Dibia, whose surname is Igbo word for [native] doctor, neither told us if his first name Okachikwu is also an Igbo imposition nor gave the non-Igbo names of his ancestors. I can mention the names of all my ancestors up to the founder of my village around the 15th century!

Pray, in line with Mr. Dibia’s bizarre hypothesis of Igbo colonialism, did Nd’Igbo also colonize the Igbo-speaking peoples of Anioma in Delta State and Igba

nke in Edo State? A friend from Igbanke informed me that his people should be part of Anioma in Delta State, but Dr. Samuel Ogbemudia whose mother hails from there influenced their being in Edo State. They bear Esan names, speak the language in order to be taken as such, yet their mother tongue is a dialect of Igbo. In his 18th century autobiography entitled The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano or Gustavus Vassa, the African, Written By Himself, Olaudah Equiano, whose roots have been traced to somewhere around Edo and Delta States, declared unequivocally and proudly that he was Igbo! That is how it should be.

We know that every language has dialects which vary from each other. Some persons erroneously interpret these dialects as distinct languages, possibly because some dialects are so deep that indigenes of another community within the same race hardly understand them. But if all indigenes of the communities concerned understand the central language of the race, then they belong to that race. When the Ikwerre man speaks what he says is not Igbo language, the average Igboman who speaks Igbo understands him, even easier than some other Igbo dialects. A dispassionate look at the Ikwerre tongue shows that it is just a dialect of Igbo language. The inherent (not the recently invented) variations are understandable for a dialect, for same are equally noticeable among the Igbo communities in the South-East. The names of the Igbo four market days of Eke, Orie, Afor and Nkwo and pagan gods of Ala, Amadioha, Ojukwu, Agwu, etc are the same among Ikwerres.

There are available records showing that during the colonial era, Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities of Rivers State related with the British colonialists under the name of Igbos. It was only after the Nigerian Civil War that they began renouncing any link to the Igbo race and altered the spellings and pronunciations of their names and towns to pass them off as non-Igbo. For instance, Amanweke, an original Ikwerre name was changed to Rumuokwuta to make it less Igbo. They did this to avoid being left out of the new Rivers State by Gowon’s regime, and to curry favour with the Ijaws who were given charge of the new state. There is even a rumour that the Ikwerres took an oath to do so. A maternal uncle of mine, who was born and bred in Port Harcourt, narrated how immediately after the Civil War an Ikwerre friend of his startled him by feigning ignorance of the Igbo language in which both of them had conversed previously!

There exist in some parts of Abia and Imo States two traditional dances called Eshe and Uko played during the funeral of elderly men and women, respectively. My grandfather, who died in 1988 at over a hundred years, told me that long before his birth, players of those dances, on invitation, travelled to Ikwerre and other Igbo-speaking parts of Rivers State to play same during funerals. I witnessed this when my eldest uncle who played Eshe travelled severally to Ikwerre and Etche to same. Could this have been possible barring any cultural and linguistic similarities between the communities involved? The same interactions which Mr. Dibia claims existed between Nd’Igbo and Ikwerres from the 16th century equally existed between Nd’Igbo and Ijaw and other non-Igbo communities of Rivers and Bayelsa States, yet they do not share the same cultural and linguistic similarities with Igbos as Ikwerres. However, a legacy of this interaction is that some of these peoples bear Igbo names such as Nwokoma, Chukwuemeka, Ebere, Odo, etc, just as some Igbos in Abia and Imo States bear their names such as Amakiri, Igbani, Gogo, Cookey, Ubani and Igoni.

My grandfather told me that before 1913 when Lord Lugard gave it its current name, Port Harcourt was called Igwe Ocha. Let Mr. Dibia refute this, and also tell us if Ikwerres objected to the name imposition by the British. When he claimed that Ikwerres bear Ovunda while the Igbos bear Obinna, he lumped two things together. The name Obi in Igbo means either heart or house; thus Obinna literally means either father’s heart or father’s house. In some Igbo dialects, obi in the second sense is referred to as ovu or obu which also denotes the central living-room in a man’s compound, usually detached from other houses therein. I doubt if ovu has a different meaning among the Ikwerres. The name Amadi is popularly borne by the Ikwerres, just like in Imo and Abia States. It is the short form of Amadioha (Igbo pagan god of thunder) and figuratively means a (free) man. Let Mr. Dibia tell us the distinct meaning it has among the Ikwerres. In Mbaise, Ngwa and Arochukwu, the second child in a family is called Nwulu or Ulunwa; in Ikwerre it is Worlu or Orlunwo.

I expected Mr. Dibia to provide a cast-iron evidence of the non-Igbo origin of the Ikwerres. Barring such, it is hard to believe that the Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities outside the South-East are not Igbos. It is a known fact that as an ethnic group spreads geographically, several variations emerge in its language. Again, communities on the border between two ethnic groups most times find themselves being receptacles of conflicting cultures and languages. Mr. Dibia should know that the fact that Ikwerres opposed the NCNC’s nomination of a non-indigene to represent Port Harcourt in an elective post is not enough to give them the status of a distinct ethnic group. When Enugu State was created, its indigenes asked other Igbos to leave their public service. Even some Lagosians opposed the appointment of fellow Yorubas from other states into Bola Tinubu’s cabinet.

By dismissing appearance, language and name while preferring character alone as the determinant of a people’s race, Mr. Dibia seems to suggest that a particular ethnic group in North-Central Nigeria where husbands allegedly offer their wives and daughters to cherished male guests is of the same race with the Eskimos of Eurasia who reportedly exhibit a similar character. It also follows from his postulation that since Nd’Igbo are republican and egalitarian like the Greeks, they both belong to the same ethnic stock. This will be a great assault on logic. He forgot that even siblings have distinct characters. Happily, there are some Ikwerre people who admit the truth of their Igbo identity. Currently an Ikwerre man is the 3rd Vice-President of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, the pan-Igbo socio-cultural organisation.

Perhaps, Ikwerres had hoped to be taken as non-Igbos upon renouncing their Igbo identity, only to face the reality that no matter how strong in flight a butterfly is, it is not a bird! Now, they and others in the same boat are victims of self-induced identity crisis which the likes of Mr. Dibia are perpetuating. I am proud of my Igbo identity; God forbid that I should turn myself into a bat, neither air nor land animal! What, however, I cannot explain is the hatred the Ikwerres have for Igbos, exemplified by Mr. Dibia’s malicious and unproven accusation of “the ill activities of the Igbo in Ikwerre”. They were willing allies of the Ijaws in the formulation and implementation of the anti-Igbo Abandoned Property policy at the end of the Nigerian Civil War. A very amusing argument by Mr. Dibia is that Ikwerres are better endowed than Nd’Igbo, a spurious claim for which he supplied no supporting statistics. I assume he has the enormous crude oil reserves in Rivers State in mind for his claim.

However, the admission or denial by Ikwerres or any other Igbos of their true race will neither enhance nor derogate from the status of Nd’Igbo. Nevertheless, in line with Mr. Dibia’s emotional plea, let Ikwerres and others of that hue be whatever and whoever they now claim to be. But my father told me that in spite of its unsightly appearance and feeding habits, the vulture (udele in Igbo) is still a bird; and despite the beautiful yellow-black stripes of a particular species of rat (called oguru in some parts of Imo and Abia States) it is still a rat.

Writer: Ikechukwu A. Ogu

It is very interesting write-up by Ikwerre son who assertively declared he is Igbo.
My problem with Ikwerre issue lies with the fact there is no quantitative reference that will be used in the future to separate Ikwerre who disowned their Igbo ethnicity from the ones that wore Igbo ethnicity as a uniform. Other than the likes of Elechi Amadi and Dibia, I had hoped many Ikwerre should announce their non-Igbo as classified on the newspaper.

I have severely commented on certain Igbo words anglicized or distorted to serve a purpose. For example, Opobo was Opu Obu as Ubani became Bonny. Opu is door or entrance while Obu is house or heart as the writer had indicated.

My recent journey took me through Isiokpo town and I saw a banner with inscription of “Iwheruoha Celebartion”. I wondered if the people who stood up the banner understood conflict between Iwheruoha and Isiokpo. What the hell is Iwheruoha?

Isi and Okpo, to the best of my knowledge, are Igbo words. Isiokpo and Isiuzo are the same thing. In certain Igbo community, okpo is road as uzo too. Isi is head or start-point or beginning depending on the connotation.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=867026.msg10161546#msg10161546 date=1328818059]I know you are aware that Mallam Umaru Altine  was elected the first Mayor of Enugu in 1956, way before Independence. Azikiwe was obviously instrumental in ensuring that Altine became mayor. How did Azikiwe's actions or your claimed opposition of the Northern elite lead to pogroms between 1956 and 1960? Please clarify which pogroms you are trying to tie the said election to.  When did the pogroms take place?[/quote]Pogroms took place in northern region in 1945, 1956 and 1966. I am not surprised you decided to limit your knowledge of pogrom in the Protectorate or Nigeria to 1966.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=867026.msg10161373#msg10161373 date=1328816339]Ndigbo did not let anyone become mayor, buddy! Get your facts straight.  Mallam Umaru Altine who hailed from the old Sokoto  and who served as President of the Enugu Branch of the (NCNC) was elected the first Mayor of Enugu in 1956. No one "let him" become mayor, he earned the office.  

It is this kind of elevated and futuristic politics played by Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe, the first Premier of Eastern Nigeria and the most sincere proponent of Nigerian national unity of all time, that enabled Altine to become the 1st mayor of Enugu, and I believe that we all should learn from Azikiwe. The pogroms you referenced above are completely unrelated to the mayoral post in Enugu. Azikiwe got it right, back then.[/quote]Can you listen to yourself with this deceitful spin? I guess Mallam Umaru Altine was elected  the first Mayor of Enugu by NCNC members from Sokoto or there was nobody as qualified as Mallam Altine or probably more qualified then the mallam in Enugu to compete with him for position of Mayor of Enugu. I am disappointed you insinuated the pogrom in northern Nigeria was not remotely connected to the unity and oneness expressed by Ndigbo.

nagoma:
@ndu-chuks

God bless you . Ojukwu was one of the greatest Nigerians and was born and bred in the north before he went to England and came back to serve the fatherland stationed in the north. He must be burried in the north. Where are the northern governors? Where is Arewa consultive forum ( ACF) . We cannot lose our right to the easterners who only got to know him during the 2.5 bad years. When he returned from ivory coast he joined NPN AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH SHAGARI. I will start a pressure group , ndu - chucks please help. Ikemba belongs to us .

This post sounds like a rejoinder to “I am happy Ojukwu died a Nigerian”. I guess you really want to make it fait accompli by saying “I am happy Ojukwu was buried in northern region of Nigeria too”.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=867026.msg10160837#msg10160837 date=1328812264]Being born to military or diplomat parents on foreign soil is an obvious exception, don't you think?

One of our major problems in Nigeria is that, people who have lived in areas for 50 or more years, including those who are born in the same areas, are denied full legal rights, property rights, and even the right to contest for political offices in those areas.   We must stop this abusive acts if we are going to progress as a nation.  Why must ndigbo or Yorubas who have lived all of their lives in the North be deemed as "foreigners" simply because their ancestral homes are a misely several hundred miles away?  Why must a Northerner who lives in the South suffer the same fate?  This is the issue I am trying to highlight here.

Progress is when an Igbo man can become the governor of Lagos state, and a Hausa man, a governor of Enugu - so to speak.  [/quote]When Ndigbo let Hausa man to become first Mayor of Enugu in 60s, the northern region political elites termed it a disguised trick for Ndigbo to take over northern region of Nigeria hence the pogrom. What actually is your drift on the bolded?


There is no amount of misguided spin you injected into this debate that looks desirable.

dayokanu:
Bros shey na Adekunle make you write Burial instead of Bury?

I wished it was the time I had some jigs with EDS under INS show, I would have smoked your black arse out of McKinney during my several visits to Plano, TX.

dayokanu:
Dende the legendary m0r0n.

What does B-U-R-Y and B-U-R-I-A-L have in common? You typed additional 2 alphabets and you claimed it was a typo?

Are you senile already? Or has the Post traumatic disorder caused by Adekunle turned you into Ugwu vegetable already

Benjamin Adekunle was forced into a wharf traffic warden job by gallant boys from Biafra. I could not believe my eyes when I saw the photograph of diminutive and wide-mouthed Adekunle directing wharf traffic under the intensive heat of the sun. Till today the wide-mouthed punk from Ogbomosho had never recovered from the post traumatic shock received when he was demoted from GOC to wharf traffic warden.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=867026.msg10160210#msg10160210 date=1328807114]The bolded is the kind of ideology which keeps Africans uncivilized. When are you people going to learn of some of the primary principles of civilization and move out of the bush for good? You, a whole well published and internationally recognized University professor who lives in diaspora should know better. Learn one or two things from yoour adopted country, biko. Take your USA for example, do the white folks carry their dead to their ancestral land in England, Austrailia, Russia, etc for burial? nwanne, its time to jettison some of these dumb ideologies; O bu mmuo ndi na-efe na-egbu ha

May I recommend that posters show some respect and stop the insults. like it or not, Ojukwu remains one of the greatest Nigerians ever.[/quote]We are not juggling ideologies in this post but a fundamental aspect of peoples’ way of life and behavior also known as tradition. We must not cow-tow to the many life styles doctored by the Europeans. I could not believe my eyes will see a day when a group of people had to be indicted because of their strict adherence to culture and tradition. Even Asians with numerous contributions to the so-called civilization still embrace their culture and tradition religiously.

dayokanu:
Gbosa gbosa, Dende Ecomog soldier

You wan kill us for this thread.

Can i ask where do Igbos now "burial" their pipo wey die from HIV

Daokuta:

You are a celebrated mooncalf if you could catch only one typo in the post.

There is yarning need to arm Ndigbo as the northern political leaders have armed almjiris in the northern region however the so-called Igbo politicians c.um leaders seemed to be asleep on duty like Ironsi.

I do not spend a day in Nigeria without being armed to the teeth. Sometimes I get twisted out human form when Uwazuruike preaches about non-violence MASSOB.

@POSTER


You are entitled to your opinions regardless how goofy they may appear. Igbo do not bury their dead outside their ancestral homes even when born in another city in Igbo land talk less of Hausa, Fulani, Yoruba, Kanuri or Tiv land.

[quote author=Rhino.4dm link=topic=866502.msg10159773#msg10159773 date=1328803459]Grand pa

You need to see a shrink!!!

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQk1loirlVOwf-YrnPAz1_X2UFS57kNs6zHKto0six2_aJUYM4y[/img][/quote]I hope an Osaka swine such you becomes a neglected road kill as you concentrate on the color of Bianca’s underwear, agbaya.

She is a mother for crying out loud, MoFo.

[quote author=Rhino.4dm link=topic=866502.msg10159399#msg10159399 date=1328800955][size=18pt]Here is what bianca was doing . . . when her husband is still crying on hospital bed in London, left at the mercy of a Filipino nurse. [/size][/quote]I guess she was struggling to enjoy your weakling strokes of the hip with small protruding stump you called pen.is, olodo Oloshi.  

You will die of hypertension from constant thought of the hue of Bianca’s underwear.

dayokanu:
Can you all just ignore the troll called Dede.

He is the village jester

Look at it who gives birth to a child and names him "Dende"?

Ignore Dede1 at your own peril, olodo.

When Shou of Ogbomosho turned tail and ran like mad dog to Ibadan at the sight of Sokoto Caliphate's soldiers, where was the Aare Ona Kakanfo from Ogbomosho? Agbaya kalukalu.

shymmex:
@Dede1 doodoo1

Why are you such a shallow minded bigot? And don't tell about you fighting in some imaginary Biafra war you never fought in, Poverty knows no tribe in Nigeria - and you need to vent your anger on Babangida, Obasanjo and the present President - they destroyed the Country, I think the poster @GenBuhari posted a topic showing the history of Nigeria - check it out, and stop hating on innocent people that are victims, just as you're,

If you refuse to change, it's better you take your own life - and don't pollute the minds of innocent people, And don't reply me with your Patrick Obiagbahon-esq type of English - that belongs in zoo,

It is only idiotic dingbat such as you who resides in foreign land and enjoys ammonites provided by those who had come to terms that unity based on lip service as in the case of Nigeria is act of redundancy. Nigeria for intent and practical purpose is a divided entity both geographically and ideologically.

I do not care if my post turned you into a maligned maggot but there is no doubt Ezeife will compare favorably against the father of kid that called him idi.ot including your father too.

If you think it is not proper for southern Nigerians to carry concealed weapon such as northern Nigerians carry concealed dagger, which is a dangerous weapon by any standard, I suggest you consult a psychiatrist, olodo.

dayokanu:
^^ Actually Ogedengbe was given Oyo tribal marks

Ogedengbe was trained by Bashorun Ogunmola

Wow Daokuta, for once in your miserable life, you sounded very intelligent.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=864525.msg10145987#msg10145987 date=1328654252]Efunsetan Aniwura - [i]That [/i]African Lara Croft that shook Ibadan to the marrow.
Another pointer to tell you Ibadan people are cowards. This woman defied the Oba, killed people at will. . . .murdered slaves at will and it took the Oba himself to arrest her and the shame of her apprehension wouldn't even let her rest so she committed suicide.
If Ibadan had 4 women like her in unison, they would have conquered Ibadan and you have the gall to mention Ogedengbe or the Ekitis in the same breath as the Ibadans?

Hercules, we go start Kiriji War version 2.0 here o.[/quote]You foolishly forgot that Ogedengbe was once captured by the Bashorun of Ibadan and he, Ogedengbe, was forced to fight for Ibadan. Without Ibadan warriors, few loudmouths such you would have been appending “Mallam” to your names.

Few of these loudmouths should inquire why Sokoto Caliphate and even Oba of Benin maintained that expansionism towards southeast was the must unfortunate, regrettable and dangerous undertaken attempted.

They were shown the act of separating human head from the body with style. They realize the jungle hides the strongest and quickest warriors known to human.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=864525.msg10144105#msg10144105 date=1328636939]The Ndigbos must have forgotten this tactic/technique during the Biafra war. [/quote]Ndigbo did not forget the tactics however what took place is the risk involved when one teaches close neighbors one or two things about oneself. You should inquire why 3MCDO and 2nd Division of Nigerian Army were mostly populated with elements/characters drown from southern Nigerian ethnicities.

@POST

This is another official money sharing technique. Nigeria is a hell hole.

Katsumoto:
Why are you so scared

You are with Onlytruth on this? A comment from someone (onlytruth) whose people settled communal disputes through wrestling contests when Oyo and Ibadan had some of the most advanced Infantry and Cavalry units in Africa. The first set of rifles purchased by Igbo people were the 12 rifles Ojukwu boasted about just before the start of the civil war.

Your comments about sword swinging is ignorant at best. Yoruba had been using guns in warfare since the 17th century.

Quit trolling.

You are a funny chap indeed. When Alaafin of Oyo under Oba Atiba was losing every capital of the Oyo Empire, from Old Oyo, Oyo-Ile to Ago oja, and towns and villages such as Ogbomosho, Osogbo, Osi, Otun, Aisegba, Ikole and Itaji to Sokoto Caliphate, you should have inquire who are the people that advised and helped the Yoruba to beat a tactical retreat which instigated the onslaught witnessed at Osogbo.

After a bitter lesson taught to Sokoto Caliphate Cavalry at the northern fringes of Igbo land, a war popularly known as Hausa/Akagbe debacle, Igbo warriors were dispatched to teach the Bashoruns and Baloguns of Ibadan tactical approach needed for jungle warfare. Before this interaction, Sokoto Caliphate was kicking Yoruba arse uncontrollable.

Since then, Fulani, Hausa and Kanuri do not sleep with both eyes closed when Ndigbo are closely.

yelanst:
@ dede,
i wonder where you got they information that rochas doesn't pay civil servants; that he allows members of state house of assembly to loot; and ur case of double contract awardance. Please stop making false claims. I have an uncle in the state house of assembly who often complains bitterly to me that rochas doesn't want them to recoup the money the spent in order to get elected or rigged in. According to him, he spent over 20 million naira in order to get himself elected or rigged in. That serves him right. This will serve as a deterrent to other politicians who will want to spend huge amount of money in order to rig themselves into elective offices. He complains that rochas pays them like civil servants and does not give them chance to loot.
Again your claim that rochas doesn't pay civil servants is wrong. Apart from the 20 thousand naira he implemented as minimum wage, i learnt from colleagues that he has been consistent in its payment. As i am typing now, no civil servant is being owed in the state. Previously civil servants where owed and this problem was caused by an unscrupulous director in the ministry of finance who had the wage bill withheld in an investment account in order to accrue interest to himself. Rochas however discovered this and sacked the director.You may do some research to confirm the validity of my claims. Besides the issue of ghost workers had been eliminated by introducing a system in which each worker has to present himself before a committee set up by him for clearance before being paid her monthly emolument.
That of double contract awardance i can't say with certainty if rochas does that or not, but evidences abound where rochas had some inflated contracts revoked and contractor to poorly implement projects indicted.
He is always seen at project sites in the state inspecting work done. He is also seen at roadside buying and eating akara( ie beans cake) with the commons. Hahaha.( no joke meant. This is for real.) .
He also controls traffic flow in areas where traffic wardens have abound from duty just to punish them later.

If your uncle is a parson of questionable character as you have alluded, you are also a person of disreputable character because it runs in the family. I guess you do not know the main functions of the legislators hence the reason you injected the silly comment of recuperation of electioneering expenses by a member of Imo State House of Assembly. You wrote like a dunce. Tell your uncle who spent N20m to get himself elected to jump cliff. Both of you are moronic imbeciles.   

I have written in my previous posts that Okorocha played Father Christmas to members of Imo State House of Assembly in December 2011 by giving Toyota Prado SUV to each 27 member chamber. I attended the ceremony when invited by a friend. Further inquiry revealed Okorocha runs Toyoto Dealership in Jos, Plateau State and this is the main reason Imo State is filled with Toyota Prado and Hilux trucks.

The only roads with dual lane in Imo State were built or started by Udenwa/Ohakim administration. It is rather idiotic on the part of some goons to insinuate that dual lane carriageway from Owerri to Okigwe that terminates at Obilubi/Orji where the combine team of Army and Police mount road block is built by Okorocha.

Okorocha, for the last six mouths, is still clearing brushes at the junction of Owerri/Port Harcout and Orlu road, opposite F U Anyanwu Steel Industries. In a socio-political gathering which I attended during December 2011, in his usually manner, Okorocha alleged that Ohakim built new government house in Owerri with $50m and the he, Okorocha, would accomplished a better job with $30m. However, he ran serious over cost on a project when he, Okorocha, renovated the commissioner’s house complex in new Owerri.

Do I have to dabble into wasteful resurfacing of Wetheral road near OgboOsisi market? When a question was put to Okorocha while he embarked on such useless and wasteful endeavor, his answer was “to make the road smooth”. Tarred roads only need to be solid and passable. I have been tempted to give Okorocha credit on the massive grading, pouring of laterite and compacting of many obscure streets in Owerri but should wait until the roads are tarred.

I do know more about Imo State and its government than few people on this forum so it is high time I stopped writing about Okorocha until 2014 when he will unleash the capital/money he claimed to have served from stiffing the teachers, civil servants, local governments and absolute disregard for due process. He is a master of bamboozle and maestro in confusing people with bull crap.