₦airaland Forum

Beaf:
Abeg, give Fashola some rope. Anyone who hasn't heard of the man would think he is the most useless governor.
I'm sure there are other ways to draw his attention than a thread that is seeming to shame him.

Any goat elected as the governor of Lagos State shall always look good and wonderful in the eyes of deluded electorates. Lagos was a mega city developed by federal government and turned into a state.

The original poster is not deluded but wonders how Lagos is a growing jungle amidst heaps of positive propaganda generated for Babatunde Raji Fashola.

@POST

The so-called Confederation of Igbo Students is still behaving like some of the forbearers. The students should stop complaining and issuing empty threats. Rather they should start acting like youths and students from other region by arming themselves and letting their actions do the talking.

@POST

I honestly believe that the so-called politicians from Igbo-land are deluded peacocks. Any political structures set up in today’s or tomorrow’s Nigeria will always hinge on the Nigeria/Biafra civil war and its outcome.

It is a wanton display of idiocy for these idiots called politicians to embark on collection of signatories to enhance decampment from PDP instead of finding means to collect guns and ammunitions to actualize Biafra or Republic of Igbo land.

There were several quotations that got me really piqued from the article such as “The current zoning formula by the leadership of the party which treated the zone with disdain” and “You cannot beat a child and also ask him not to cry”. What arrant nonsense.

The idiots kept quiet when Goodluck Jonathan destroyed “zoning formula” in PDP and yet encouraged their constituencies to vote for him. The issue of being treated with disdain has been in existence since after the Nigeria/Baifra civil war. Were these fools not witnesses to the “abandon property” or the “draconian boundary adjustment”?

I am completely flabbergasted to read about beating of a child and asking the child not to cry. What a display of delusional disingenuous. The child had been constantly flogged and the pitiless crying is not a solution to stop the beating. I do honestly believed this proverbial child has grown into a man and should start acting like one by fighting back to claim what is rightfully belongs to the man.

If these punks had listened to the group which had advocated for armed struggle or combination of armed struggle and Nigerian style of polity instead of pursuing money and empty fame in Nigeria, the issues of zoning, disdain and beating should have be corrected by now.

Any blue-blooded Igbo person who believed the Igbo ethnic group’s issue in Nigeria can be wished away is a compound fool. If it will take going to war to resolve the issue of Igbo land in presently constituted Nigeria, I am fully in support it.

Deep Sight:
I like that term you have just used: "reserved legal audacity" - - - that says it all. In that term alone, you yourself have acceded that which i set out above to you: namely that jungle tactics are not always addressed by puristic legalism.

By the way, there is no UN resolution that authourises the invasion of Pakistani airspace - especially when Pakistan is supposedly an ally. If Pakistan claimed ignorance of Bin Laden's whereabouts, the legal thing to do would have been to inform them and seek their permission and co-operation. I am just trying to make you see that if you are to be strictly legalistic, then you cannot justify the invasion of the Pakistani airspace - for the exact reason that the state of Pakistan itself is not a declared enemy, etc.

Bros, we shall try not to intertwine the issues of USA/Pakistan/Osama Bin Laden and Okorocha/Imo State/Ohakim. I guess UN article 51 granted instances of self defense to its member nations.

Deep Sight:
You are wrong sir. If we are to be legalistic and puristic about it, whilst Osama may be viewed as an enemy combatant, the state of Pakistan is not legally so classed: and as such the invasion of Pakistani airspace remains illegal to the extent that it was done without the express consent of the Pakistani Government. The proper legal process would have been to proceed with the permission and co-operatoion of the authouries within that country.

However we all know that following such puristic legalism would have been fool-hardy of the US.

This seals the point that in extra-ordinary circumstances it is unreasonable to expect recourse to strictly legal methods when it is crucial to acheive an over-arching positive benefit. Osama's case is a prime example.

I intended to lean towards the issue of respect for Pakistani air space or lack thereof. However, Pakistan had expressed total lack of knowledge about Osama Bin Laden’s presence in Pakistan. Since Osama Bin Laden had also disregarded the Pakistani sovereign status by driving illegally into Pakistan with armed bandits, I guess the USA has reserved legal audacity according to UN resolution to chase him into Pakistan.

Deep Sight:
@ Dede: I feel your pain. I am a lawyer myself, and it certainly does rile that the application of the rule of law in Nigeria remains in the woods.

However I think that you expect an utopia. You need to recognise that systems and institutions within a society take time to evolve. When the systems are poorly developed there will be anomalies - and in many cases it might take outrightly unorthodox methods to acheive otherwise salutary ends. This occurs when the system is still run largely on jungle justice - and it will be naive for the ideological purist to imagine that recourse to legal propriety alone would resolve the drastic situations that arise within the jungle.

Ours is still a jungle, and it will take sustained effort over time to advance from that point.

However where jungle tactics are still in force, it may take jungle measures to deal with such behaviour.

Study Niccolo Maciavelli's works.

You will find that the greater interest of society is not always met by puristic legalism.

Nigeria embarked on curbing excesses of jungle justice by adopting the system of government know as democracy. Bros believe it or not, precedents are major tools of change.

The alleged Okorocha’s action does not set a good precedent for Imo State. In fact in the next for years, governor-elect might want to place Okorocha in a house arrest so that Imo State treasury should be safe before the new governor is sworn-in. I am completely lost for words to note there are well articulated individuals of Imo State and Nigeria willing to cut Okorocha some slacks on this issue.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=263214.msg8320803#msg8320803 date=1305398414]What if? Look my friend i don't do illegal bunkering. If am getting you right.

All those places you mention are below my feet.
Done that like 3 years ago. So, If you want a favour from me we can go private. If you are picking up then i relate you up. Atleast lemme touch a life on NL.

Stop mentioning African pots for ME. Doesn't worth the effort under Yar adua/GEJ[/quote]Do you think I am crassly irresponsible person to engage in any meaningful discussion with a person who had publicly claimed to have sex with a woman old enough to be the person’s mother?  Look jackass, I have a class in the grade of the world not Nigeria.

kasiem:
how can u say that Rochas is ordinary man on the street when he has received the certificate of returns from inec as the new governor of imo state? Man, as far as nigeria is concern, Rochas is the new governor of the state, just that we are wait for official and ceremonial transition to come up. Okay, if u are insinuating that we go through the beaureacracies attached to our constitution that means that u can support the military commander incharge of kano that allowed mayhem to thrive with the claim that he never got any directive from the fg. How does that sound reasonable, when the lives have been lost? Sometimes, we need to act beyond the scopes of the laid down laws when the case involved need to be treated with high exigency. Okay, why didn't the USA government inform their pakistan counterpart before invading Osama's hideout?

Bros, again you are citing ridiculous and unparallel analogies. Firstly, the action of commander in-charge of brigade in Kano State amounts to dereliction of duty. When an officer is graduating from NDA or any military academy, he or she swears an oath to defend the lives and properties of Nigerian both internally and externally. In situation exhibited in Kano, the commanding officer should not wait for orders to come from force headquarters in order to spring into action. If the officer’s excuse of no actions is based on lack of order from the above, the officer has no business in the armed forces of Nigeria. At least in this scenario, the officer had sworn an oath during passing out ceremony but Okoracha has not sworn an oath of office yet.

Secondly, there is a UN resolution that calls for “self-defense”. Since Osama Bin Laden had been allegedly precipitated attack on the USA, the aforementioned UN resolution allows USA to pursue Osama Bin Laden anywhere possible. Again, I do not know the section of Imo State statutory code that allows ordinary citizen of the state such Okorocha to embark on such reckless endeavor. Okorocha has not been sworn-in as governor and allegedly breaching laws and protocols already. What would happen when his is finally sworn in as governor of Imo State? I say God save Imo State.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=263214.msg8320693#msg8320693 date=1305396833]Wow! Is that a threat or what? Hmm. No one threatens ME!

Honestly i just feel sorry for you guys trapped in yankee with FAKE documents.
Doing FIVE hour @ 5/hr, dual combo jobs.
Can't goto hospital nor take a flight.


I could give you a good offer, but need to know what you can DO. I like tax free money with 2 mopol excorts.
Lay off, serving WHITE man tea.

Come back home![/quote]Look punk, I do not threaten people rather I promise them. I just placed you on notice to curtail flaunt of ignorance by injecting wishful crude oil or refined product deals on the public arena such as Internet. Have you traveled to Accra, Ghana or Duala, Cameroon?

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=263214.msg8320447#msg8320447 date=1305394125]^^^ you know what? I just call airport to post pone my PM flight till tomorrow and ordered my PA to get me two Igbo girls tonight. Fine and ugly

You guys just anger me and your girls will pay for your crimes. I will nick named one Dede1 while the ugly will bare Bashr4.

I will instruct them to answer those name throughout my stay with them.
Mimicking two foools that anger will be my joy TONIGHT!

I will bleep them through anus (apology to my wife ) VERY harrrd with double CD rom while shouting the names of you two.

And i wont PAY them in the morning. Then post thier unclothed pix in sexuality section.

Don't ever ANGER me again! Or else your women will continue to pay for it.

Sta sera molto felici, sesso a duo Igbo girls : D [/quote]Be very careful what you wish for your self. I lived in Yoruba land before your mother was finally betrothed to your father. I have dined with Obas and owners of the land in Yoruba land. Yet the idiocy you have displayed on this forum can not force me to publicly disclose my scintillating sexual escapades with gorgeous Yoruba ladies. I do not monkey with the ugly ones and I guess you can imagine my level. If I place a mere phone call across the Atlantic, you could be bared from any trip to Port Harcourt or any of the cities in southeastern part of Nigeria.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=263214.msg8320321#msg8320321 date=1305392567]^^^ Dude the device in my hand worth more your house. lol.
My left hand worth more than your entire clan. . .i can still prove that if want.


If you are waiting to see anything about Rhino, then you are lost soul.

I came in to SEAL some oil deal . Let the aba boys continue thier fraud.

We ARE MADE fo LIFE!

We leave no traces. I delibrately mention 'trekking' to disguise my personality. lol.

Am invincible!

Alooora! i o sono rhino, tu chiami capone, grande padroni le tutti e gruppo mafiaso! Numero uno![/quote]If you keep postings craps on the Internet with measured amount of recklessness as you have shown, you could not conclude the crude oil or refined products you claimed to seal because you do not know all the individuals whose signatures are required. Olodo of loud mouth!!!

kellybaba:
How do you intend to stop him? How do you intend to stop the mandates of Imolites Please better pack your ragged bags and disappear from Douglas House with your godfather-Ohakim !

I do not pay mind to goofy jackasses such as you. You can get lost, air head. I guess you are deficient in comprehension because I did not even insinuate that Okoroacha should be stopped.

However if Okorocha and his cronies could allegedly issue such orders when Okorocha is not even sworn-in as governor, It is humanly possible he would not be governor come May 29, 2011.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=263214.msg8320148#msg8320148 date=1305390654]This is ph. Live![/quote]Thanks goodness you have no ride of reputable class, its picture and silly punk arse such as you would have dotted this forum, olodo.

You will continue to suffer under the sun in Port Harcourt on those worn out slippers courtesy of Aba industrial ingenuity.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=263214.msg8319518#msg8319518 date=1305383803]^ Am right now in PH live! Am trekking between Ust to Agip junction. Where do want me to snap and paste for proof?
Just mention anywhere.
Am invincible![/quote]If Nigeria had allowed this misguided drone to step foot on the grounds of NDA as the lamb dung has claimed, I blame the quota system and despise the colonial contraption more than ever.

Have people cheering over the silly action of Okorocha’s Chief of Staff realized that come May 29, 2011 Okorocha might not be the governor of Imo State?

kasiem:
and the dictates of democratic laws is being focused to benefit the masses. So, in this matter matter u can bring the law of neccessity which can be gotten from delegated legislation and the delegated power should be gotten from the choice of the masses in a true democratic setting not from some egocentric people who pose as legislators.
Another thing is that u can get the real unmanipulated opinion of people through dint other than referendum(i.e news stands, market places, motor parks, schools etc), cos we do things in our own style. And the opinions emanating from this place are in favor of the policy. Democracy started from igboland, so USA should be the ones that'll take a leaf from us.

Please kindly point out to me where the “law of necessity” is enshrined in the Imo State book of statutory codes. If alleged action of Okorocha’s Chief of Staff is remotely true, it is serious breach of the law and protocol. As much as I wanted Ohakim evicted from the government house in Owerri, I detest the first action of governor-elect to be a borderline rascality.

Even if we attempt to see through the plank of your argument of “law of necessity which can be gotten from delegated legislation and the delegated power should be gotten from the choice of the masses in a true democratic setting not from some egocentric people who pose as legislators”, it still does not hold water pertaining to the actions of Okorocha and his cronies.

There is no legislative measure, delegated or not, that allows a man on the street to issue orders on the behalf of Imo State government. As far as I concern, Rochas Okorocha is an ordinary man on the street until he is sworn-in as governor of Imo State.

kasiem:
@dede, mind u that democracy is the government of the people. So' if the people find okorocha's policy okay, that's it. U need not to go about in borrowing people's style of democracy cos our culture differs and so is our interests. Okay, can u go ahead in adopting the USA's policy of separation, whereby, our senate president will be our vice president? U know that one will not work in our ethnically diversed society cos of zoning conciousness. We are africans, so shall our governments be.

Bros, I am mindful that democracy is the government of people based on the laws. The last time I checked though, democracy is not the government of Okorocha. I can not remember when referendum was passed in Imo State allowing a person who is not yet a governor to issue gubernatorial directives. So your use of the language “people find okorocha's policy okay” is not only ridiculous but downright disingenuous. 

If we are not borrowing USA style of democracy, what the hell are we doing with executive governor? The Igbo culture does not allow the concentration of authority or decision-making on the hands of one person. In the parliamentarian system ran by Nigeria in the 60s, the Senate President or Pro-tempore was the Vice president.

My point remains that democracy is system of government based on the tenant of laws not the tweaks individual countries could bring to bear.

Eko Ile:
Ode, we don't need sissy clowns and mercenaries to further anything, that's for mumu and foolish ibo people to do and get their a.s.s whooped again. We just took back our states without shedding a drop of blood. We have enough brains and smarts to disarm  and achieve our goals.

, and who are you to even voice to us who we should name anything? it's 2011 and you and your people are still slaves crying and begging for positions and recognition,

Do you people not have any shame ni?

You write very irresponsibly. Granted you are a domesticated monkey, the person who put you in a cage must have taught you few manners, Olodo. I guess Nigeria had an election not war. It is true that inherent stupidity can not be fixed. You are a living example of such notation.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=666210.msg8312033#msg8312033 date=1305279515]GEJ destroyed the PDP zoning agreement to run for re-election while making enemies of some powerful Northerners. GEJ has also managed to anger the SE zone in the process.
The best bet for the SEers is to start now by forging meaningful alliances with the North - this will be their best hope of producing the next Vice President in 2015.

To tell you the truth, the SWers are positioning themselves to become completely (economically)independent from the Feds for the most part. It may not matter whether the president is from the SW in 2015 as long as the monthly allocation keeps flowing in.

The phrase Yoruba Ronu should more appropriately be replaced by Igbo Ronu. Ronu means think, in the Yoruba language.[/quote]Whilst I agree with the bolded paragraph, the subsequent follow-ups should be reserved for beer parlous postulation.

I think GEJ has failed politics 101 if he allegedly supported the very PDP zoning formula in Obudu, CrossRiver State which he destroyed during PDP primaries. He will end up a lame duck president if the northern region gets both Senate President and House Speaker as the SE allegedly threatened to support a northern nominee for NAS speaker.

Regardless of the fact that some states in northern region voted for PDP, the individual elected members from the northern region could team up with CPC and SW ACN members to make sure his reign as an elected president of Nigeria is irrelevant in history.

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=666210.msg8310672#msg8310672 date=1305254516]Na real wa! Na so the thing pain SE reach?

All 98% votes for nothing.[/quote]I know you are deficient in comprehension. If not, you would have understood that SE does not give a rat ars.e about nonsensical power structure of Nigeria.

Kobojunkie:
Another thread creatd by an Ibo for attention to Ibos. Now, as soon as the attention comes, the @OP and his gang will, once again, HAVE A WHINE-FEST.

@Moderator, could we please stop these threads and @Posters who thrive on the TRIBALIST-IC attention?

And your ugly self tend to be attracted to such thread as housefly is attracted to “you know what”.

@POST

I shall even volunteer as a mercenary to fight for the declaration of such republic if the people concerned will ever muster enough courage and intestinal fortitude to embark on such epic endeavor. 

However, I shall take my cues on the part of history with regard to this lofty and wind aided imagination.

I am only for Republic of Yoruba. Awolowo was a political damaged good via SL Akintola.

sirjec:
My Brother, drinking will be a good solution. May be I need to go and drink because thinking of how to change this country gives me headache

Best offer to change Nigeria remains disintegration.

Eko Ile:
After stitching together your bogus and disjointed rant, you're still not making any damn sense

Sometimes I wonder about your sanity.

It will take you a lifetime to comprehend the thoughts conveyed by the sentences I wrote. Is it not shameful act that you altered a word, sanity? A compound fool is comparably better than an empty Osaka swine such as you.