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@benincitys

The type of analogous statement you posted is what drives me nuts. I hope you are not insinuating that Africans should tow to every sacrilegious behaviors engaged by Europeans. Since the Europeans founded the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, Africans should have continued where the Europeans stopped.

This post is the height of inferior mentality. Please you can gather the same sex marriages and shove them. While you at it, do not for a moment think about Africa.

@Poster

They say charity begins at home. I recommend that you commit suicide so that it will be one person less than the people that speak your mother tongue.

I have lamented that Nigerian government had practiced and continue to indulge in institutionalized discrimination through quota-system and insidious federal character.   

My people say that “if person throws another person to ground and held the person thrown to the ground, the person who holding someone to the ground is equally holding him or her self on the ground”

However we must not lose the sight that this apparent change of view about things on the part of the Imam is due to the determination of the certain section of people to fight back.

Based on the free liberty of the contributors to the forum, there are Nigerians that could be simply classified as educated dolts who are unashamed of their ignorance and how they flaunt it.

I would like for DRANOEL and Knowall to make their ethnicity public so that benefit of doubt could be given them.

Until now, I did not know that Nigeria history is a piece of gold bar. How could someone who had been breastfed by his or her mother refer to the indigenes of Middle Belt region as brave? In 1962 up to 64, there was political riot in that particular area and the Premier of northern region was bent on the teaching the inhabitants of that section of jungle a serious political lesson. The Ahamdu Bello had his wishes on the steam roller but one young Major Chris Anauforo stood on his way.

The Sarduana of Sokoto had the 1st Brigade commander and zonal police commanders in his back pocket. NPC leaders had ordered the riot police to deal ruthlessly with the supporters of Tarka’s United Middle Belt Congress. The order was also relayed to commander of Race Squadron, Jos. Instead of arresting the Tarka’s United Middle Belt Congress supporters, Major Anuforo arrested the supporters of Nigerian Peoples Congress and ordered the release of UMBC supporters already in police net. This action infuriated the Premier who sought the transfer of the Major Anuforo out of Jos.

One wonders where the so-called brave Middle Belts soldiers were hiding when Bello was steam rolling their people. The civil war showed that cowards actually die many time before their death.

And for the idiotic Knowall, did you think the northern region would have been able to take eastern region in any warfare? Even with numerical superiority on the side of Nigeria, Biafra would have had her way with the jungle if not for massive support from Britain, USSR, Egypt, Cameroon, Chad, Niger and Arab league Nations.

Please Ndigbo as we remember the brevity showed by Soyinka, we must not forget one Lt. Col. Ayo Ariyo, a Sandhurst trained officer, the second in command to Col Adekunle in Calaber in 1967 who relinquished his commission into Nigerian army instead of fighting against the Biafrans.

Most segments of Nigerian societies could be classified as educated morons. They simple go through educational institutions without the institutions leaving an indelible mark on them.

There must be at least one criterion as a benchmark in order to deduce which of the Nigerian ethnic group is politically above the ethnic shenanigans such as ethnocentricity.

When other Nigerian ethnic groups were trying to sort who they really were, Ndigbo had elected Hausa man as the Mayor of Enugu. The Ndigbo had elected an Ibibio man the head of government in the Eastern Rigion. In addition, Ndigbo had called upon Efik royal figure to lead the house of chiefs.

In the then Western region of Nigeria, the people like Oba of Benin and Chief Obasiki were kicked to the political curb because they were not sons of the soil.

In Northern Nigeria, it was even worse because not only you would have to belong to the right ethnic group, you must also belong to the right religion.

I am of the view that reasons behind insults other or certain ethnic groups tend to pile on the Ndigbo today is because of the latter’s civilized approach to certain political ramifications.   

Ndigbo must eschew their approach in future political issues be it war or play.

Jarus:
Don't compare the classification Yoruba/Igbo with Hausa/Fulani. Hausa/Fulani is an officially recognized political grouping. Within themselves they may be distinguishing who's Hausa and who's Fulani, but at the national stage they are seen as one. They have many things in common and the classification sticks, but Igbo and Yoruba are too distinct to be matched together.

The people from the northern region of Nigeria may have displayed strong political togetherness does not tantamount to official ethno-political classification such as Hausa-Fulani.

If it roamed through your social order that Hausa-Fulani official political classification existed, one wonders if such official political classification also applied to Hausa-Tiv, Kanuri-Hausa, Fulani-Gwari, Tiv-Nupe, Hausa-Bachama and Kanuri-Fulani.

The phrase, Hausa-Fulani, surfaces as official political grouping when Nigerians of political virtue give way to those of political naiveté.

[quote author=ijaw_girl link=topic=239065.msg3535986#msg3535986 date=1236056743]

Ijo people changed it to Kalabari.

The name Kalabari was derived from their ancestor Kalabari or Perebo Kalabari who was the grandson of MEIN OWEI[/quote]I will urge you to left your lazy arse off the Wikipedia and seek out books written by authors without ulterior motives.

Nwananaku(Amakiri Oboko) Ikwerre town of Obu Amafo led the Endeme( claimed ancestral lineage to Mein) of Ogobiri Clan to Owame –New Calabar later changed to Elem-Kalabari under King Kamalu.

In fact, one of the King Kamalu’s sons, the powerful King Agbonye Ejike, founded the town of Bile town also of Kalabari.

Please quit reading craps that had been twisted out of the original form and then posted on Wiki.

If you think that the Fulani and their Hausa, Kanuri, Gwari and Nupe cousins are stupid, I urge you to rethink. Most of the amphibious rank and file of Nigerian army and navy are Ijo. This is Plan A in action by drafting Ijo boys in uniform to confront the menace posed by MEND. When they have located the position and method of operation of MEND through wasting the lives of these miguided Ijo people, they would apply Odi-styled approach.

Ibime:
Ama = Town

Nyanabo = Councillor

WTF does Ama Onye Ana Abo mean in Igbo?

Kalabaris history is well known.

They used to live in present day Calabar, after migrating from Delta area. They subsequently moved from Calabar to Rivers State where they presently live.

Till today, Calabar is named after them after a misspelling by the Portuguese.

Kalabari are known as very fierce warriors. Igbo people in Haiti can attest to that.

I know your knowledge of history is in bad shape but did not know that your geography is also horrible.

Let me get the facts straight. Did you mean that Ijo people paddled from present day Ondo, passed where the River Niger entered the Atlantic Ocean and settled in Calabar? All of sudden, they realized that they read the compass wrongly and paddled back to River Niger estuary.

The Portuguese had no hand in the misspelling of Calaber to Kalabari. The fact remains that Portuguese landed to the place know as Calabar and named it “Calberia”. However, it was changed to “Calabar” by the English who subsequently named the River Niger Estuary as “New Calabar”. I am not surprised that Ijo kings or the Igbo who became kings among the Ijo people changed it to Kalabari.

Please do not let those Ijo kings who are trying very had to become English men grasp the fact that you have reduced them to ordinary "town councilor". I have provided you with certain names that founded Elem-Kalabari, Bile, ruled Ubani and founded Opobo. There is no doubt that they were Ndigbo, slaves or not. Mind you that Ndigbo also made the decisions too.

@ kkk_ng

Please do not pay any mind to that misguided drone. The dude is a demented cock sucker. Even when it was fed to him that his/her assertion amounted to market women talks and lacking intellectual deductions, he still has the audacity to follow up ignorantly.

Even the jackass never bordered to check the fact about statement pointing to a trend that suggests statistics of almost first in anything academic, inventive genius and academic achievements usually trace their ways to south-eastern zone of Nigeria.

[quote author=St.Funmi link=topic=241182.msg3530799#msg3530799 date=1235945031]I didn't know he is Fulani. I always thought he is hausa. Anyway, are they not the same? . Abacha= Fulani; Atiku= Hausa; Abdulsalaami= Fulani; Ibb= Bwari. Who are the hausa that have been ruling Nigeria?[/quote]Abacha was Kanuri.

The weight of imbecility rests on the shoulders of those Nigerians who classify certain people from northern region of Nigeria as Hausa/Fulani. There is nothing like Hausa/Fulani as in Yoruba/Igbo.

ow11:
His history lessons are so bogus that it is quite difficult to respond to. You just laugh it off

His lessons reminds me of the spat between Kiwi992 and Quotasyste on the thread https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-161857.416.html. Anyone who's interested in the history of this Igbo/Ijaw spat and wants more information can visit that thread from pages 15 to 16. I think the same issues were also flogged on those pages.

Which of the history's planks are you not agreeing with me? There is no question the Kalabari is New Calabar even a suckling type like you would want us to believe otherwise. If there is anything I had to give up to those people marauding as Ijo, it must be their ability to twist original names out of its originality.

Are you still in shock the Elem-Kalabari is founded by Nwanneaku (Amakiri Oboko) who migrated from Ikwerre town of Obu Amafo? I speak the history that the town Elem-ama was ruled by King Kamalu. And his son, King Agbonye Ejike founded the town of Bile.

Like I rightfully informed my friend Ibime that Opu obu (Opobo), prior to 1870, was neither Ijo nor Igbo land but Qua Ibo. At least, it was founded by Igbo sons.

Ibime:
Discuss them one by one in descending order.

Also, I would like to hear your Amanyanabo = Ama Onye Ana Abo theory!

Ibime

My friend, it was your choice to pitch your tenet wherever you saw fit and you exercised that prerogative with Ijo. I am very happy for you because you could not have gone wrong with either Igbo or Ijo as you did.

Since you know you have alleged that you know Ijo better than I do, I would want you to educate us on this issue of dynasty with regards to the Ubani (Bonny) kings as enumerated.

You and I know very well that a typical Ijo family lived on boats or canoes anchored off a structure onshore. The terrain in riverine swamp is hellish and highland is very hard to secure for inhabitants of the canoe houses. When eventually a highland is secured, a structure was erected on the land and it usually belonged to the chiefs and heads of canoe houses. There is doubt that the heads and chiefs of these canoe houses were occasionally chosen as kings.

The entire families of the canoe houses make sure that roads and compounds leading to the structure constructed for chiefs and heads of the canoe houses are kept clean because of the caliber of people that usually pay the chiefs homage. As evidential by the recorded events, the heads or leaders of these canoe houses became the kings of these city states like Elem, Bile, Nembe, Ubani, Okirika, Bakana, Degama etc. Now, I hope you have gotten my drift about Ama Onye Ana Abu.

Even if other structures for the commoners would spring around kings dwelling structures, it should not burdened upon the shoulders of the entire communities to keep them clean as in the case of the King.

Ibime:
The guy is real funny. I wonder if he thinks we are taking him serious.

@Ibi

Please do not quit because this discourse is getting fundamental and straight to the roots of the beginning of this Ijo crap.

Whether the likes of you take me serious or not, I will teach you the history of the ancestral places and persons you are foolishly claiming.

For example, Ubani (Bonny) and from the great Kings of Ubani (Bonny) such as:

Alagbaria

Okpara Ndoli

Opu Amakubu ( Opu ama ka obu)

Okpara Asimini

Perekule (anglicized Pepple) Sons: Fubara and Opu obu

Allison Nwoju (Igbo slave who became King of Bonny)

Please choose the one to discuss but first, enlighten us on the issue of (Ama Onye Ana Abo)

Today’s Opobo is neither Ijo nor Igbo land but Ikot Abasi land founded by Igbo slaves tuned royalists and ordinary Ijo as in Jubo Jubogha aka King Jaja, Ichie Obomanu, Peterside and Oko Jombo (Cookey).

I am not interested what transpired and efforts engendered to twist the daylight out of certain person’s and village's names as to either suit colonial masters or certain hidden agendas put in motion by misguided cretins.

The words Opu, Ama, Obu and Abo in particular and others in general were Igbo words. The Opu is door or road while Ama is compound. The Obu or Obi is house and Abo is act of clearing as in clearing the farm, roads or person’s compound of weeds.  There was a title prominent in old Opu obu, Ubani (anglicized Bonny), Elem and Okirika.  I would want these loudmouthed punks to proffer what is the symbolism of “Amanyenabo”

Few contributors have labeled my assertions as flawed elementary history. However, I do believe that it is lack of elementary history, flawed or not, that is generating their unwanted imbecilic distortion of facts as in this case.

Be mindful that it is not only in Ijo land that names of persons or places have been twisted or anglicized to suit colonial masters. The differences between the Ijo and Igbo are that the former is in denial of itself or had ulterior agenda.

I maintained that Ijo people, other than Ndigbo who intermingled with them, were of the canoe people and slaves/servants of Europeans who visited the coastal areas know as Nigeria,

Many lazy loudmouth punks have been putting up disgraceful historical shenanigans without grasping the degree of damages they are causing.

It is funny that these punks realized that Jubo Jubogha is King Jaja himself. Now, Kalabari is derivatives of New Calabar that was born out of Calaber of Efik that took her leave from Portuguese name Calberia. The early visiting Europeans had named the coastal area that is known as Calabar today as Calberia.

The so-called present Kalabari was founded by Nwananaku (Amakiri Oboko) who migrated from Ikwerre town of Obu Amafo, currently Obuama, settled in Elem-Kalaberi. Later, the town Elem-ama ruled by King Kamalu ( Ibo native doctor). One of the King Kamalu’s son left to find Bile another powerful Kalabari city state. He was King Agboniye Ejike.

@Ibi

It is unfortunate that you do not know iota of issue in discourse. Well Opu Obu Ama is not a person but community founded by Jubo Jubogha, Obomanu, Peterside and Cookey.

Opu Obu Ama (later bastardized as Opobo) is combination of Igbo words meaning a secret door of the house to the outside.

After a brief debacle in the kingdom of Okpara Asimin, Jubo and his fellow mutinous gang left the kingdom of Ubani (Bonny bastardized anglo) moved eastward where they overpowered the inhabitants that constituted some part of Ikot Abasi in 1870 to proclaim Opu Obu Ama.


@ijaw girl

You are a drooling simpleton and should shot your putrid and maggot infested mouth when issues beyond your pedigree are being discussed. This issue is way beyond your Google expertise.

@Ibi


It is an aberration on your part to spew crap about Ijo people pulling out of the Nigerian-Biafran civil war as if Ijo people had any army to commit such an act. The truth of the matter remains that any powerful force that emerges from the southern Nigeria today, the Ijo people had no choice but to comply.

Biafra emerged as a powerful entity and the Ijo of eastern Nigeria complied. When Biafra capitulated, the federal Nigerian side emerged as the powerful force Ijo complied too. It is on record that delegation of Ijo leaders actually went to Enugu and met with Ojukwu. The delegation was not in Enugu to negotiate on how to engage on a hand wave as you would want us to believe but they went on solidarity purposes. There is an undercurrent political flow taking shape today through consultation meetings at Enugu between the Ijo and Ndigbo leaderships. The people of Ijo, Ogoni, Ibibio, even Efik and Ndigbo had come a long way. Especially Ijo as there are very few families in Ijo without a trace of Igbo blood existing therein.

The name Biafra was given to the country by Ijo son of Biafra from Yenegoa. There were Ijo sons who fought and died for Biafra as there were many who later defected to Nigeria. For example, while Major Frank Okilo commanded the 52 Brigade of “S” Division of Biafra army and was among the four Brigades threaten to take Port Harcourt in 1969; Lt Col George Korubo defected to Nigeria. Commander Nelson Soroh, an Ijo extraction, commanded the NSS Lokoja, the main frigate that spearheaded Nigerian sea born attack on Biafra.

The Ijo people were boat/canoe people, mainly slaves or servants, who came to the shores of what is known today as Nigeria from places like present day Ghana, Togo, Sierra Leone with the Europeans. Even in 1825, Dr. William Baike stated that Igwe Nga (Opobo), Igwe Ocha (Port Harcourt) and Ubani (Bonny) were outposts of Ngwa, Asa, Ndoki, Uratta and Ikwerre/Eche people.

Anybody who can contemplate the terrain of the River Niger estuaries as it enters the Atlantic Ocean will conclude that it is not inhabitable without canoe. Even during civil war, if Biafra had a mere frigate or PT boats, the outcome of the war would have taken another shape. I had attested to the fact that Borokiri was mosquito infested swamp at the early life of Igwe Ocha (Port Harcourt).

Now on slavery, the Ijo people have been servants or slaves who came with early Europeans and acted as middle men for Igbo slave traders. It is a fact that Ijo or any tribe never engaged in slave raids in Igbo land except the raids conducted by Ndigbo. As a matter of the fact, the middleman status of the Ijo or any other group did not last as Ndigbo took over the control of all trading activities along the south eastern coast of current day Nigeria .

Till today, the Europeans never conducted any raid because of the jungle terrain and harrassing guerrilla warfare perfected by Ndigbo as early Europeans found out very quickly. The British has not forgiven Ndigbo for stumbling blocks created by Igbo people and vicious attacks they encountered in Igbo land. British had to engage on series of negotiations because of the fact that any attack on one community in Igboland tantamount to attack to other communities be it from Gakem-Agbor- Abaomega-Igwe Ocha-Igwe-Nga. It is not even a surprise that the early resistance to the British rule on what is known as Nigeria was rooted in Igboland.

I say an arrant nonsense to this baseless assertion. Is there any reason for someone with an average organized social order to let go an unsubstantiated statement in a public domain? In UK, USA and Canada, majority of intellectual gatherings that I have attended with mainly Nigerians as invitees have proportionately placed Ndigbo on the above average.

I am not here to argue on the behalf of Ndigbo but the group’s academic records speak loudly. For the sake of this discourse, let us assume for a moment that south-western zone of Nigeria trumps south-eastern zone on academics, I request that we approach very wisely the question posed by Mr. Walter Mandel, the USA presidential candidate of Democratic Party, “where is the beef”?

Statistics after statistics, data after data, in most cases first in every thing, the flow of inventive genius and pure academic achievements have managed to trace their ways to south-eastern zone of Nigeria or Ndigbo in general.

Quote from: ADint on February 27, 2009, 12:20 PM
The data provided by JAMB is probably correct - there is currently more admission from the SE and SS region than the SW in Nigeria.

But looking at a bigger picture this does not mean that there are more SEers or SSers going to University than SW. The SWers have taken the quest for higher education to a different level. There are 10s of thousands of Nigerian undergraduates studing abroad, especially in Europe, and majority of them (just go to any Uni in the UK for example) are of SW origin. The average SW family, given the opportunity, will not spare any expense to send thier kids abroad to get quality education (in some cases even selling landed property or vehicles), this has been happening now for going on 2 decades hence the seemingly lower number of admissions from the SW region within Nigeria.

In the final analysis the SW region will still be the region with the highest number of graduates albeit a sizeable proportion with foreign degrees.

KarmaMod:
I see this pathetic gay is still stalking me. What real dude goes around looking for females to argue with sef? Shameless lunatic.

Did I not say Ciao to this agbaya earlier? Koriburuku e kuro waju mi. Omo aja.

Please let someone tell this ugly duck to jump off her high horse. It is always true about the saying that it takes a thief to catch another. It does not come to me as a surprise that a lesbian such as you is fond of calling any male contributor that disagrees with you a gay.

I have made it known on this board about my gruelling plays with beautiful Yoruba ladies. So your gay reference is a mute issue. I challenge you to state if you have made a blind man’s plate. I know this a bidding that will remain a dream to you because of your ugliness.

Your antics on this forum stink to the high heaven. If you were as quarter of beauty as you would want us to believe, your pictures would have been running riot on this forum. Any man that remotely thought of stalking you for a moment needs to be shot.

KarmaMod:
Debo definitely isnt in the group that yarns garbage about Yoruba women.

Her was being sarcastic in regards to the BS many others have said.

If there is an invite for only Yoruba women, you would also have the impetus to drag your ugly self to the rotunda as a legitimate Yoruba lady. Look bad-news, you can not make a blind man’s plate. I pity the innocent man you are about to hook with diabolical means. I would not want to see you first thing in the morning.

@oyb

Baring typographical errors, which I care less, grammar reflects the style of the individual author. Dunces such as you will always look good while reworking someone’s original work. Again, you have done nothing to mitigate doubts which led me to identify you as a plagiarizer. It comes natural to boneheads such as you to deliberate on someone’s original work.

This forum is an undisputable testament that you can not even string two coherent sentences together. Grammatically, your constructs have left much to be desired unless when plagiarizing on someone’s original work. Let us assume for the sake of your life that you are good at grammar, one wonders what the hell stops your dumb ass from posting in such a manner.

@Debo

Please do not pay any mind to the jackass known as oyb. Just like his forbearers and few loudmouthed punks of Yoruba extractions, they would digress from issues when confronted with undisputable evidence as the marriage between Akindele and Chinenye, including testimony given by the groom, have provided solution to the protracted argument as the reason behind latest trend in the unions between Yoruba man and Igbo women.

I hope you remembered when some of the loudmouthed fools argued that it was the considerable endowment of Yoruba men rather than the smashing beauty of Igbo woman that had forced the upward trend in such marriages between Yoruba males and Igbo females.

KarmaMod:
Rofl. Na you get time sef to bother reading the incomprehensible gibberish that dork wrote out. Cant be bothered by uptight retards. Humorless losers.

If you have an iota of class, I would have been bothered. Believe you me; I had hardly notice you as a lady because I never labored to feast my eyes on paragon of beauties that attend to my everyday endeavor talk less of a thing that could pass as a dork.

You are a qualified drooling piece of leftover cheese. I am completely disgusted with your anatomy especially the oozing foggy and funky bottom of yours. Water is not that expensive and I recommend that you take a good bath and while at it, brush your putrid mouth as well.

oyb:
look here you bloody retard, stop trying to blow incoherent grammer. while your immediate circle may consist of semi illiterates who are wowed by a ceaseless flow of disjointed terminologies, big words, we recognize them for what they are - unintelligible ramblings. you are NLs becomerich of english - abusing your access to an electronic thesaurus.

please do us all a favor and stop trying to become the nna Jakumo . there is only one.

It does not surprise me that a roadside technical turned engineer had issues with grammars meant for the above ordinary human beings. I am happy to hear from you since the vigilance mounted by the Area Boys in lure of catching the serial Peeping Tom is still in place.

I would plead with you to consult your dictionary when perusing my post however you will still read it upside down and complain about the words.

I took leave of the argument when someone stumbled onto archived data on a server that houses the database. At this point, I missed the terminal. The problem of Nigerians in particular and Africans in general is arguing loudly and pontificating on issues they have little or no knowledge.

I have heard about cloning but tunneling. I have heard about web hosting but the proxies. In a very restricted domain, servers within the same domain may have issues reaching resources in another server if the IP addresses were not probably listed in host file. There is also a trust issue and boundary constraints between domains that have to be resolved or implemented before free data flow could be engaged. What validation would behind the scene configurations give to a datum that is supposedly guided unless provided by owner’s discretion or agreement? 

I am only disappointed that few people mistook scripting language indicator as the classification of a web site. All the .mil, .com, .gov, .org, and .edu are unique addresses of individual entities and pointers to resources on the Internet and Intranet. 

Not every professor is qualified to become a Vice Chancellor (VC). Professors are tenured then assessed in order to hold a particular position of authority in the university.

I recently discovered Nairaland and appreciate the type of characters that stroll on as to argue. We sometimes may argue on issue that has no definite answer or solution but along the line some of us may have learnt one or two things.

By 1957/1962, Nigeria has four universities, UI, UNN, UNILAG and ABU. Two among the four were headed by Igbo VCs and remaining two universities were headed by expatriates. UI and UNILAG were headed by Dike and Njoku respectively.

However, the most unfortunate statement heard during this discourse came from a drunken and a loudmouthed jackass stating that “average Yoruba person sabi book pass average Igbo person”. All I can say is that data after data, statistic after statistic and individual academic achievements and laurels tend to suggest otherwise.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=237534.msg3513269#msg3513269 date=1235560638]It's baffling. . . . . . . .

Maybe more SW students travel abroad to further their education more than the students in the SE.

That could well be a factor but it's still inadequate and cannot account for the huge disconnect.
It doesn't make sense but then nothing really makes sense in Naija.[/quote]This is one of those fill-happy craps that people often deceptively pad into argument hoping they will stick unnoticed.