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I would love to read the junks on this UNIBEN VC issue from few misguided individuals that usually contribute to this forum that Nigeria is everything but ill-advised colonial contraption.

I do not know that it has constituted into unbearable problem for one to decline marriage from certain quarters or group of people.

In every part of the world, there are traditions that forbid people from engaging in certain human endeavor as the Osu has its pedigree wthin few places in Igboland.

This is very typical. Hyena can never loss its spots

@Poster

You are a lazy slowpoke. To be opined does not encourage stupidity.

@Spankykid

Please do not sell yourself in an arena such as nairaland and very cheap at best. A sand man is a sand man anywhere (Ogwu Ajaa). We have serious engineers in Robotics, Fluid Mechanics and Applied Numerical and Computation at Goddard Flight Center in Greenbelt, MD.

The people of Njaba in particular and Imo State in general should have stopped this latest development. I hate to see a cent out of crude oil from Igbo land trickle into the coffers of the jungle called Nigeria. I am completely saddened that crude oil exploration is still underway in Igbo land. Believe me, any further discovery of crude oil in Igbo land could lead to uncontrollable chaos.

@osisi (FG Returns 46 Oil Wells to Abia)

This is another classical ploy of divide and rule by the greedy and wicked leaders of the jungle called Nigeria. Now that the so-called MEND and its leaders have finally realized the stupidity of their forebears, the FG of colonial contraption called Nigeria has decided to return the oil wells ceded to neighbor’s of the Ndigbo.

prittigrrr:
@Dede1

I condede that not all Africans are "black" but I am speaking as an American lady and in America, for many generations, one drop of "black blood" makes you "black" to the larger society. And before you say it, I also concede that there is a huge issue of skin color among African Americans. I just personally find it ridiculous because to the larger society, a dark "black" person is just as "black" as the lightest "black" person.

I have been schooled on the color chart and there is nothing black about Africans. By the same token, there is nothing white about Europeans. A book in philosophy held the view that it is a display of ignorance to define human beings with colors. If you still want to embrace the imaginary color attributes of human beings, it is all your choice. I have never seen a black blood, it is always red.

prittigrrr:
who cares about skin color? we r all black whether we r light or dark.

No, woman. Africans are not BLACK because the continent of Africa is not synonymous with back. In that regard, people of the world have different shades of skin color and must not be defined with colors out of color chart.

Charlesmud:
My guy maybe Nigeria is not as perfect cus of poor leadership but Nigeria never got anything and will never get from this countries that you say they are develop.

Look at how we have helped the whole Africa in the past :

"The prevailing perception in Nigeria's foreign policy was that, as predominant the African leader, it should play a bigbrother role in relations with African states. Nigeria was a founding member of the OAU and often channeled major policy initiatives through that organization. Most of its relations with other African states took place outside the OAU framework but were guided by OAU principles. Nigeria's primary African commitment was to liberate the continent from the last vestiges of colonialism and to eradicate apartheid in South Africa. Promoting liberation had grown from a weak and conservative stance during the 1960s to an increasingly firm push after the civil war. This commitment was pursued most actively after Murtala Muhammad successfully backed the Movimento Popular de Libertação de Angola's ascent to power in Angola in 1975 by providing the swing vote in the OAU decision to recognize the MPLA. Nigeria had played a role in the independence of Zimbabwe and in the late 1980s was active in assisting Nambibia to achieve independence of Namibia. In the latter case, it contributed about US$20 million to assist the South West Africa People's Organization in the 1989 elections and other preparations for Namibian independence. The country also contributed financially to liberation movements in South Africa and to the front line states of Zambia, Tanzania, Mozambique, and Zimbabwe, which were constantly harassed by South Africa. Although Nigeria's armed forces were among the largest in black Africa in the early 1990s, sizable military might has rarely been used in foreign policy (see Local and Bilateral Issues; African and Regional Issues , ch. 5). The army participated in peacekeeping forces, either alone or through the OAU and contributed personnel to United Nations peacekeeping missions. In line with its ECOWAS comunitment, Nigeria was one of the main contributors of troops to the ECOWAS Cease-fire Monitoring Group (ECOMOG) sent to Liberia August 23, 1990 after the peace talks there failed. Additional forces were sent in late September 1990 under a Nigerian field commander, General Doganyaro. Threats to fight for southern African liberation were made but not acted on, but Nigeria did give military and financial aid to the African National Congress for its efforts against the apartheid regime in South Africa and provided military equipments to Mozambique to help its struggle South African-backed guerrillas.

In addition, Nigeria gave aid and technical assistance to several African states, often through the African Development Bank of which it was a major benefactor. In 1987 a Technical Aid Corps, operating along the lines of the United States Peace Corps, was established. Under it, young Nigerian professionals served in other African, Caribbean, and Pacific countries where their expertise was needed. Nigeria also provided scholarships and fellowships, training facilities, grants, equipment, and medical supplies, and subsidized oil during the 1970s' oil crisis to African countries under certain conditions.

In July 1974, the Gowon government decided to sell crude oil at concessionary rates to African countries on condition that they had their own refineries and would not re-export to third countries. The decision came despite Nigeria's role as an Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) member generally in favor of higher prices and after more than two years of deliberations. Nigeria acted largely in response to external pressures: international actors attempted to divide Third World countries into OPEC members and nonoil producers; various African countries, especially Liberia, begged for less expensive oil; and both the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the Organization of Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries had established programs to aid poor countries while encouraging other oil producers, especially African nations, to follow suit. Providing subsidies for African countries was a safe move for Nigeria because Africa comprised only a small portion of the country's total oil export market, it enhanced Nigeria's position and influence in Africa while building African solidarity, and it protected security interests by preventing economic decline. Moreover, this example of generosity aided Nigeria in its efforts to create ECOWAS. In November 1990, Babangida suggested that Nigeria might again offer concessionary prices to other African countries as the Middle East crises pushed oil prices upward".

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-9449.html

This should be likened to the case of a fool trying very hard to catch a rat while the fool’s house on fire.

@Poster

It is not exaggerated.

Ibime:
It is time to stop all this 'umu' propaganda.

Since when was Rumuokuta called Umuokuta? The Ikwerre's called it Amanweke, then the Igbo's changed the name to UmuOkuta. When the regional government was dissolved, the Ikwerres changed the name to Rumuokuta.

If you want to know the Ikwerre's view on this whole schnitzel, read this:


http://www.ikwerreusa.com/achinewhu.pdf

Ibi (swollen Scrotum)

I guess you know better than you have written and that the Ndigbo have much better things to do than changing the names of villages or communities in Ikwerre areas. In issue of Amanweke, do you not think that it is more undisputable Igbo name than Umuokuta? Why would Igbo change it to Umuokuta for easy conversion to Rumuokuta by Ikwerre people? This allegation that Ndigbo changed a community or village name from Amanweke to Umuokuta is naïve at best.

Ibi, have you also lost your wobbling mind completely? I can not believe you did not fathom the immature drivels and lack of purpose the author exhibited. You and I know that “Ogbako” is an Igbo language as much as there is.

Please inform the demented fool, the author, that he/she should at least gather the fact and then learn how to skew it. When Elechi Amadi ran back to Eastern Nigeria and gave up his commission as an army officer, he did so an Igbo. When the war started, Elechi Amadi was appointed Acting Prinicipal of Asa High School, Asa, he was an Igbo. However, when Port Harcourt failed into the hands of the vandals, Elechi Amadi sneaked back to Nigerian side and fabricated the story of his incarceration in Biafra.

ow11:
Jeez, the name correction would have been done after independence if only the people in charge of that weren't stuck in Enugu and had no qualms with the status quo. When the power was moved to RV state in 1967, the Ikwerre people now had influence to name their area like the way they speak.

About land grabbing, I would say it was an unfair decision by the RVSG(deeds should have been respected and the original sales verified before declaring anything void) at the time but you should be aware the original land allocations/sale were done in Enugu and in typical Nigerian fashion was beset by nepotism. You can argue all you want but you/or your sources were not the only ones alive in pre-independence PH alive today.

I thought that this form of dumb arguments about the shameful restructuring and granting ownership of certain land marks in Igwe Ocha, River State would have been improved by now. 

Before and after Nigerian Independence, eastern Nigerian region was arguably the only region that allowed the minorities the greater say in government than any other region.

The leader of government in eastern region before Nigerian independence was Prof. Ita, the SRG was Akpan, the leader in house of chiefs was Obong. When the regions were granted regional powers, the eastern region boasted more minorities in the high places then any other region. Even, at least, two sons of Ikwerre people were regional ministers. This statement is made for the sake of the ongoing argument because Ikwerre were not regarded as minority. Remember that Ikwerre and Etche were Igbo.

I hope you were not insinuating that the government of eastern region changed the community’s and village’s names from Rumu to Umu? If that was the case, why did the eastern regional government failed to change the names of Afam to Umuafam, Oloibiri to Umuoloibiri, Elem to Umuelem and Okirika to Umuokirika?  Please be mindful that there is a community in Mbaise, Imo State that goes by Umuokirika. Was there any significant governmental success on embarking in the name changes of these communities would bring?

In fact, the only shameful thing emerging from this socio-political machination by the Spiff’s Rivers State government, encouraged by Federal government of the colonial contraption called Nigerian and sheepishly followed by the Ikwerre is denial of person’s integrity as a human being. It paints the picture of imbecility. When another government sweeps across the southern Nigeria and bids bye to colonial artifact called Nigeria,
Ikwerre people would also wake from this current slumber to initiate another change of name of their communities from Rumu to Umu once again. I say shame to you by allowing yourself to be enslaved to land recourses and properties.

egheleghe:
Dede1,it is true that correction of those wrong spellings were done after the war.it is also true that an ikwerreman that is called nnamdi could as well bear ndamzi depending on which part he is from.obi could as well be ovu.obinna-ovunda-obunda.okay an anambra person that bears chinyelu why cant you correct it to chinyere?elelenwo is the rightful name.nwa is igbo while nwo is ikwerre.ogbu nu abali is the full name not ogbu na abali.

My brother let us not fool ourselves. The name correction of these communities or villages did not take place before and immediately after Nigerian independence.

Then the benevolent spirit suddenly woke Ikwerri people from their deep slumber and urged them to correct the spelling of these communities as soon as the Nigerian/Biafran civil war ended.

By the way, why did spelling change not extended to the market day’s nomenclature? I hope they did not remember to change the Eke market day of Elelenwa because that of Obigbo is still Eke Oyigbo. Did the Ikwerre people and their partners in operation name-change fail to remember to change the spelling of the market days?

Did you realize that the Spiff’s government and its operatives tried to muscle Chief Amadi of TransAmadi Layout out of his family homeland by indicting the chief for the murder of one Ijo land grabber? The Port Harcourt high court conducted a shameful kangaroo trial and sentenced the Chief Amadi to death. However, the appeal court at Enugu overruled the judgment handed down by the Port Harcourt high court.

The shameful and disgraceful land and property grab by the Ijo people in River State, which was spear-headed by Spiff's government and fully encouraged by federal government of Nigeria, will continue to haunt Nigeria and sow seeds of discord that will beg for revenge.

echelon:
@Dede

Is it true that adding "R" to names of quaters in PHC started after the war?

UmuIgbo changed to RUmuIgbo
UmuOkwuta changed to RUmuOkwuta
UmuOla changed to RUmuola
etc

BTW UmuOkwuta translates to: Children of Stone

??

Eche,

It is as truth as the night that follows the day. I was born and raised around the area and attended high school in the former Ukwa LGA, Abia State. My auntie is married to an Ikwerre family in Igirinta.

I had informed in a previous thread that Borokiri used to be a piece of mosquito-infested swamp. However, someone who really wanted Ndigbo to forget everything they knew about Igwe Ocha engaged in throwing incendiary cocktails. Matter of the fact is that the “R” suddenly appeared on the names of these communities immediately the Nigerian-Biafran war ended.

Most communities in the Asa County Council as well as in Igwe Ocha municipality have names stating  with Umu or Obu/Obi. In Ukwu LGA of Abia State, there are places that still go by names very similar to the ones in River State such as Obuehie/Obiehie, Obuakpu/Obiakpu. Today, the name of Umuagbahi has not changed. The dimwits have managed to change Obigbo to Oyigbo and Elelenwa to Elelenwo. I use to go to Eke Elelenwa to buy Sugar Cane. 

In addition to names you have enumerated, I shall include the following names: 
Umuchuruse,Umumasi or Umuebule. I do not know if Ogbu-na-abali has changed too.

Remember that Diobu is Ikwerre for Diobi.

@Poster

The thread is misguided or wrongly perceived what love is. Love is different from relationship. In most cases, love may or may not lead to relationship and lust too. To the question, of course, love exists every day and every moment of the time on earth.

One striking difference between African and African-American woman is the perception or lack thereof that the dynamite placed deep between their thighs gives them unparallel position in the relationship. The African women, being in possession of the sheath, think that the world of the relationship must revolve around them. However, some men have decided to shun them because the men are in possession of the sword too.

echelon:
Ndi Ichie si na onye na anoghi ebe e liri ozu na-esi n'isi abo ya

Ndi be anyi na-ekwukwa na ogaranya bu omume omume na anaghi abu ogaranya abu.

Ma gi ma Igwe, gaa nu na Ilu "thread" ebe a:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-43635.0.html

Nwanna Mazi Echelon biko ewekwala iwe
Nighi na Nna siri na enye nwata ighie ka ya nwata na achu si enyereya ka ya nye onye.

Ilulu ghia  gbaririm anya.  “Ndi Ichie si na onye na anoghi ebe e liri ozu na-esi n'isi abo ya”

Mmaka ndi uta echerem na “Ndi Ichie siri na onye na anoghi ebe eliri ozu na-esi n’ukwu abo ya”

afam4eva:
Port-hacourt is a semi-Igbo city.

There is nothing semi-Igbo city about Igwe Ocha. It has been an Igbo city and will ever remain Igbo city. Baring the punitive measures adopted by the victorious side at end of Nigerian-Biafran civil war and the resultant cantankerous issue of abandon property, there would not have been a debate about the ownership of Igwe Ocha.

Even the most respected and feared deity in Igwe Ocha has Igbo nomenclature. I would want the dimwits among the Ikwerre people to deny that they are not relatives of Etche people too.

My people say that a drunken adult who snatched the belongings of a child and raised his/her hand upward, when the drunken adult’s hand begins to ache he/she must surely bring down the child’s belongings down.

Both Igwe Ocha and Igwe Nga are ancient out posts of the Ngwa people according to most of the recorded events. Some of the people flapping their mouths about of ownership of Igwe Ocha are descendents of the servants of European who visited to the coastal areas that later known as Nigeria,   

It is not a surprise the one retired army general from northern Nigeria recently quip that the ethnic minorities of former eastern Nigeria are moronic ingrates.

@Poster

Abstaining from sexual intercourse during the periods of her numerous visitations to your place as indicated on the post spoke volume about the relationship. Do you want us to believe that during the period of one year and few months both of you had embraced celibacy outside the relationship?

I do not know who initiated the code of not defying the bed before the marriage but experience tells me that the introduction of this dimension into a serious undertaking such as love matters is a show stopper. I will indulge you not to make hasty and irrational decision yet.

Trust me on this tune because my people say:
Egwu akwa nwoke na nwanyi kama mgbe ha wu okorobia na agbobia