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A wife-to-be who can not cook will cease to be a wife-to-be period.

lucabrasi:
and as usual,the biafran cyber revolutionaries are there to the rescue dude/duddette whichever you are,how come an inherent trait cutting across you all is the forcing of your individual views across with insults?do you really think that ll shut me up in an online portal??
hope you realise this much ranting and raving can cause the blood vessel in your brain to burst and you know how fatal that can be?so ill advice you to chill out and use your limited time/and thinking faculty to write coherently and constructively,the fact that you r an intellectual pygmy can be forgiven but alienating potential converts to your cause with gutter languages unbecoming of even primary 6 dropouts, it ll serve your biafran cause more and I'm sure sensible ones amongst you will agree to put your point across in a sane and coherent way rather than coming across as if you r high on amphetamines.

i never said the ibos did not attend university,if my comment came across as that,they you should have simply asked me to clarify before going off on one,all I'm saying is that an overwhelming majority of their young men then went into trading same as the hausas so its not like they have a monopoly of trading and while that was going on the yorubas who wernt as good a trader as both the hausas and ibos went to the university, unless you are saying the igbos who have almost the same population as the yorubas were mostly traders and mostly into education as well which isnt mathematically possible,ask for clarification of any of my comment if you don't get the context cause i don't have discourses with abrasive debaters,
point of all my preamble
1.put your point across in a sensible and coherent form so that you wont put some people off reading your comment,including potential converts
2.while not saying ibos did not go to university,I'm saying they did but the young men went towards the option of trading in overwhelming numbers,same as the hausas while the yorubas chose the education option, the last couple of years however might be changing the equation and by the last couple of years i mean less than 10 years unless you have sources to disprove
3.focus on no2 which was the point i was making in reply to ellyptical

I do not have any Internet time to waste on your drivels or a demented nitwit like you who had issues understanding what he/she wrote. Please for your information, the forum is a public domain and if you wish to post any garbage that tickles your idiotic fancy, you should make sure it will either stand the test of scrutiny or you shove it into your dirty pocket.

By the way, you need a night class to improve on your grammar so as to realize that a sentence conveys a single thought. I hope next time you were sheepishly drawn to a keyboard, remember to type what you mean.

Please tell me that you are not a joker. I shall not join with you in crossing words on the issues of “coherently and constructively” as you put them because your streams of thought could not sustain the test by a 5th grader.

I shall plead with you to peruse what you had posted earlier and ask yourself if it was necessary. Let me call your quote into play here in case you have forgotten, “yes the ibos are sucessful traders maybe its cause they overwhelmingly opted to go for an apprenticeship rather than getting a degree which the yoruba counterpart did,” . If Ndigbo are overwhelmingly opting for apprenticeship in trade and Yoruba overwhelmingly opting for academic degree from universities, why is it that Imo State alone outclasses entire western Nigeria in every category since the establishment of JAMB? 

Please if you have the tendency to get twisted out of human form when you hear or read tidings about Ndigbo, it is fine with me, but do not let your hatred for Ndigbo to becloud your reasoning faculty as to ascribe a skewed comparative analysis between Ndigbo and Hausa or Yoruba etc.

I do not post filths or garbage on the Internet with a view to win converts or to lure the weak-in-hearts to read my comments.

slimfine:
@ dede I

you sound quite upset! with that tone, you cannot convince people with your opinion. Just my observance.

happy new year

I would shun any duty to teach an adult the color chart. If you had detected any sign of angry in post, it is because of incessant display of stupidity and inferior mentality by most Africans.

dayokanu:
Try reading books and getting educated instead of spewing falsehood all over internet.

Even an idiot knows the Balkans endured a bitter war to break up or why Milosevic and other generals in Hague

Could there be any worse display of ignorance than when a nincompoop deduced that Balkans started and ended with former Yugoslavia? By the way, the key word in the article is to emulate not to imitate. A murderous slowpoke.

lucabrasi:
@ellyptical
if it makes you feel good then go for it,I'm sure obama is from ndigbo as well,after all the name sounds and spells ibo OBAMA , OBIOMA so I'm not surprised you r now likening your tribe to jews because they r successful,who doesnt want to associate themselves with sucess

neway,are your great enemies the hausas not great traders and industious as well?
check out the richest hausas like dantata,kotoko e.t.c all made their millions strictly through trading,in spite of their illiteracy they took on a lot of distributorship from multinationals e.t.c but you don't hear them likening themselves to pakistanis,and lets assume for a minute that you r descendant of jews,like negro and others have asked,how come you can't replicate the sucess of your perceived forebears in the south east??
yes the ibos are sucessful traders maybe its cause they overwhelmingly opted to go for an apprenticeship rather than getting a degree which the yoruba counterpart did,I'm not knocking them for it because, I'm a believer of individuals applying themselves to whatever they know best ,but the point I'm making is that their success in trading,is the yoruba success in education and the hausa success in trading as well in their agricultural products,diary e.t.c@eziachi
no one is calling for war,as its not the only medium to prove your technological prowress,seeing as you always claim to be descendant of jews because of their sucess,how come you r not replicating their sucess in nigeria?biafra war has come and gone t least more than 40 years ago if I'm not mistaken and all we see and hear all the time that you v been banging into our ears is the potential without action, I'm sure you wont blame the rest of us nigeria if we r complaining that its getting irritating and tiring hearing the same song over and over after almost 50 years

You have certified the notion that stupidity is inherent. Fools do not have shame indeed. The streams of your thought remains the reason the jungle called Nigeria is a gutter. I am wondering if a deluded punk of your caliber could discern the difference between day and night. Let me remind a drooling dullard like you that since the inception of JAMB in the colonial contraption called Nigeria, Imo State alone has outclassed entire western Nigerian states in every category.  It was not long ago that a federal minister of education, of Yoruba extraction if I may add, was shook to his pants because a certain ethnic appeared to be head and shoulder over other groups, that he decided to inject ethnic bias into Nigerian academia. It will amount to a cardinal sin if I had to wake you up from the immense slumber of unpardonable stupidity. Please sleep on.

@negro mts

If you decide to flaunt your stark ignorance in the public, please knock yourself out with it but be modest when choosing the arena. You have just made Nigeria synonymous with stupidity. If Ndigbo are known for the war so be it. It is not a gain-saying to reiterate the fact the Ndigbo have resolved to step out of the colonial contraption called Nigerian. By the way, why should many demented punks like you get twisted out of form on hearing that Ndigbo are bent on opting out of Nigeria? Nigerians should emulate the peaceful separation that took place in the Balkans in order to avoid the inevitability of the war of attrition.

Mai Suya:
I really can't understand you people. Just how exactly is creating new boundaries supposed to be the magical wand for all of Nigeria's problems.

It will cease to be Nigeria’s problems.

Charlesmud:
So brother how can we resolve this issue of Igbos complaining they own the oil so they should benefit more and the Hausas using the power for themselves asper having the majority in government.

The different trabl,culture,tradition and ethnics will always and forever be problem, cus we don't just match in all ways and so as our resources. The best is just to give who ever own anything their thing and let us stay or go to were things can be fine and we all can live peacefully.

Imagine Yar'dua not including the Yorubas regions in the budget , is this a country ? or tribal fight ?

It is either you are a certified retarded slowpoke or borderline slowpoke. Where did you scoop the idea that Ndigbo are complaining about the crude oil belong to them?  Ndigbo and Biafra in general fought the civil war for statehood and survival from the evil hands, blood thirsty and crude oil crazies in Nigeria. There is no doubt that your forbearers joined the war for the sake of crude oil and it is the reason that spurred every goon from your section of the jungle called Nigeria to insinuate that the Ndigbo are yawning for the crude oil. Ndigbo had been in existence for thousands of years without the crude oil yet they are not lacking in the spirit of competitiveness in the jungle called Nigeria. Be remaindered that one day, the crude oil will be rendered useless.

Otule sina ya anuchile nti nihi agbata obi ya na otu gbara.

Anus said that it has had an earful because of the neighborhood it had with vagina (pussy)

Ishii Nwata kpoo onye oma okpo enyi nne ya.

If a toddler is asked to name one person he/she knows, he/she names the mother’s boyfriend.


Nwata siri na nneya joro njo kporo nnaya onye iberibe.

Any child that called the mother ugly invariably called his father stupid.


Ana aso nwanyi otule ukwu anya owu ya ga ara onwe ya

Men should not be afraid of a woman with a big booty because she would not (Bleep) mount her self.

Aburu neji ezee ari elu amarala osisi n’elu ilu.

Any group of humans that climb trees with teeth would know the ones that are bitter

NYSC is a complete waste of time and regrettable as well as unpardonable waste of capital resource. I say scrap it along with the Road Marshal scheme. In fact, Nigeria needs to be scrapped too.

The only erroneous omission in the scheme is the failure to include the northeast of Delta State, thus, from Agbor to Asaba, into Eastern Delta Republic. This omission is unacceptable.

KarmaMod:
Actually Beware Of Dork would be more suited for you

You should not be worrying about mother-in-law because your grammatical expression is posing hindrance already. If you really would have a chance of claiming to have a mother-in-law, you have to buckle up.

idiopathic:
o9999,
Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
My fianceeée is from Nnewi South. Is N1000=00 naira really enough to enclose in envelopes considering the cost of things in Nigeria? I really don’t want to be embarrassed by my prospective inlaws.

I still have to buy 51 bottles of wine, 14 pieces of clothing. (cost yet to be determined)
I have not been given details of the bride price (dowry) as yet?

From my own conConservativetmate, i presume the traditional wedding alone will cost close to N1 million naira. By the time i add the registry and church wedding expenses, it may be appapproaching 2 (two) million naira.

This was the point i was trying to make to Romeo and Dede before they become abusive. Is this type of expenditure still warranted in the present day Nigeria. There are young boys and girls in my village in need of sponsorship for their education. I have relations who are widowed with no form of support.

I will feel uncomfortable supporting a tradition that puts our brothers undue pressure, some waiting till their late 30's and 40's before tying the knot.

It is not a case of whether i can afford it, i simply have a principled objection to these type of retrogressive traditions. Those of us who have been opportuned to be educated and travelled out are in a better position to fight these elders who use tradition to blackmail us.

This is where I get twisted out of form when people conveniently injected education into culture. I had a very good formal European education and travelled wide but there were no instances of these endeavors that taught me the culture of Igboland or even the culture of Europeans. While I had been breast fed on the Igbland culture and tradition, I must admit that I have only observed other people’s culture.

You have to make a choice of marrying a girl from Igboland with the fine accolade of strong family values and respect to the institution of marriage that had strongly discouraged divorce or marry European, American, Asian or African girl from the ethnic group that dash its girls away.

We can not fold our hands and watch individuals with myopic view of Igboland culture and tradition to trash them because they have issues in coming up with marital rites.

slimfine:
@ dede 1

we know all that but "it is what it is"

If you know all that and still play stupidity, then why do you worry about the misnomer like racism? I have read some posts by few dunces on this forum that started with White people, Black people and ended with Asian people. I do not see any difference in skin color between a person from Finland and Japan. Even the skin color of certain people from Nigeria had nothing to do with black. I had always and sternly corrected anybody who dared referred to Africans as black.

idiopathic:
Dede 1,
Are you calling a man working very hard and earning between N30 000=00 to N50 000=00 naira?
It is this culture of worshipping wealth above all other values in Igbo land that pressures young men to take risks that land them in trouble with the law.
Which ethnic group has the most numbers of 419 fraudsters, the most number of prison inmates or prisoners on death row. Igbo's are way ahead of the curve.
We need to examine our culture critically as it is beginning to result in negative social repercussions.

I hope you are not a borderline slowpoke. Money can not absolve anybody who makes the amount you quoted and still shaky about Igbo traditional wedding of riffraff. Believe you me, a millionaire could be dumb a$$. In Igboland, knowledge is paramount when discussing of wealth. The dude is earning almost 50, 0000 naira and yet could not approach the would-be in-laws for a serious discussion of marital rites.

@Poster

What is the reason for the feel-happy crap? Granted the Samuel Crowther was termed a linguistic, the man could not write or speak Igbo. He was just a producer of primer. The primer was written by Simon Jonas and Rev. J.C. Taylor whose parentage was a liberated Sierra Leonia Igbo slave. It is funny that throughout the article name of Simon Jonas, who was teaching Samuel Crowther Igbo language in Lagos, was not mentioned. Samuel Crowther also produced primer in Nupe with the help of fellows from the Nupe area. Why should this punk shot himself over the roof by insinuating that some Ndigbo are ignorant of the fact the Crowther was assisted to produce a primer in Igbo language?

@bawomolo

Please get a grip on your intellectual stupor. Could you provide one example of such intra ethnic rivalry in Biafra? It is very refreshing to notice that your wild imagination still blinded you to the assumption that Biafra was all Igbo affair.

Encomium:
The truth remains that we have never for once have any unity talkless of being under threat.

You can not be any better. Well written.

Everybody has level. Igbo girls are not for every riffraff.

The geographical expression called Nigeria is a piece of joke.

In democracy, numbers are the key to winning.

Ibime:
My friend, calm down dia. If you truly are from Asa, that means we are brothers.

I am a known Igbo supporter on this site. I am just looking for trouble, thats all. Just because I question Biafra success, does not mean I do not support Biafra. I fully wish I was living in Biafra instead of Naija. However, my point still stands about Igbo value systems - where wealth alone is used to judge a man's worth. And I stand by my statements about the embezzlement of Biafran funds by Ojukwu and all the other contractors who chopped money.

Here you go again. Throughout the length and width of the jungle called Nigeria I have not noticed a place where poverty alone is used to judge a man’s worth. I would like you to shed more light on the word “wealth”. In Igboland, knowledge is wealth. Maybe in Ijoland, poverty and dumbness are equal to Ijo value systems. In fact, it shows as Abuja and Lagos looked like places of human inhabitation while creeks along coastal line of Nigeria looked like places for the dead.

[quote author=Xavier. link=topic=212856.msg3289906#msg3289906 date=1230728526]What's stopping them from making the present day Enugu, the beacon of industralisation in Nigeria?[/quote]What is wrong with this drooling nitwit? Baring the Federal money poured into Lagos or Abuja, the cities could not be compared to Aba or Onitsha or Nnewi in terms of industrial in fractures. Your sorry dumb brain should be reminded that efforts of industrialization in Igboland were exclusively private. In any human endeavor in the jungle called Nigeria, only Aba or Onitsha could be mentioned in the same breathe with Lagos. If the Federal would built an international airport the size MMA or NAA in Aba or Onitsha, Lagos would become a mere reference object.

Ibime:
Further evidence of Igbo's supreme confidence. . . . just what i was talking about earlier on.

Maybe instead of talking about the industrial proficiency of Biafra (which is not surprising by the way - most countries make their greatest technological advances during times of war as necessity is the mother of invention), we should talk about the corruption that led to the starvation of many Biafrans, where importers who were given contracts to import foodstuff were chopping money, leaving people starving. . . . Or Ojukwu, who handled the importation of arms himself and used it as a conduit to embezzle money. . . . even in a time of war, the Igbo's look out for themselves rather than the collective good. . . . this is why I don't believe Biafra would be the utopia you guys are claiming it would. . . . there is simply no collective spirit in Igboland when it comes to money. . . .everyone is out to oppress and impress his neighbours and family. . . .it is an ingrained culture which will take centuries to get rid of. . . . this is why every Christmas, an igbo man must always return home with his Baby benz, brand new chassis, alloy wheel and aluminium spoke. . . . In Igboland, a man's worth has always been measured by his wealth, never by his substance. . . .and this is what breeds corruption mentality. . . . . even back in pre-Colonial times - that is why AroChukwu people specialised in kidnapping their fellow Igbo's to sell to the white man, making themselves the biggest dynasty in Igboland. . . . . horrible, but true. . . . I am not saying this out of tribalism, just an honest assessment. . . . my great grandfather himself is from Asa in Abia State. . . . I am only Ijaw by migration, not by blood. . . . even back in the first republic, we've had multi-millionaire Igbo's living in the midst of squalid poverty without batting an eyelid. . . . from Ojukwu to Iwanyanwu, to Arthur Nzeribe. . . . . corruption is King in Nigeria. . . . but Igbos have always been ahead of the curve when it comes to chopping money.

Please grow up and be sensible for a while. If having supreme confidence or any form of confidence is sin than I am a sinner as well as Ndigbo. I was born and raised in Asa, Abia State. If you have decided to claim Ijo due to the materialistic benefits, please keep it to your self. Biafra hardly had capital to purchase weapon talk less of embezzlement. Have you ever tried to research about the people behind the procuring of ammunition for Biafra? When you do the research, believe you me, you would be surprise who represented Biafra on foreign scene. If Ndigbo are head and shoulder above others in the act of embezzling money in Nigeria where would your dumb head rank the Yoruba, Edo, Ijo, Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri, Nupe etc that have continuously ran Nigeria into the mud?

May God almighty grant your family the gift of lacking of confidence!!

idiopathic:
Dede,
Mike Okiro jumped from CP to DIG and was never an AIG. I am sure, you agree that is double promotion.
Ribadu was able to raise the fight of corruption to a different level, he made a few individuals scapegoats which sent shivers down the spine of our thieving politicians intent on sending us back to the middle ages.
Ribadu took on the most difficult job in nigeria- which is confronting the cancer of corruption. He made some success of it and was able to recover over $5.5 billion dollars over 5 years. Translate this to lives that can be saved, hospitals and roads that could have been built with these funds. What does he get for his hard work? demotion, harassment and humiliation.

Okiro on the other hand is reigning over a very demoralised and corrupt police and our streets that have been taken over by armed robbers. Yaradua under instructions fro his Godfather James Ibori rewarded Okiro with post of IG.

Mike Okiro was promoted from CP to AIG due the active duty service. He was one of the rare senior police officers in the country that went on night patrol and engaged in fire fight with armed robber while as a Lagos State Police Commissioner. He was promoted from AIG to DIG based on his service record.

Police does not promote officers based on the clerical job. The EFCC duty is pure and simple a clerical everyday police job, gathering of evidence and recommending for prosecution.

The last time I checked though, Ribadu was senior police officer and erstwhile member of the alluded demoralized and corrupted Nigeria police. Ribadu has contributed more the 12 years of active service to the said demoralized and corrupted Nigeria police. If Nigerian police is corrupted, Ribadu can not be a saint.

Ibime:
Mehn, Negro, I can't make sense of your post. . . . . the fact is that I would rather live under Biafra than Nigeria any day. . . . I just don't believe that it will be the utopia that everyone thinks it will be. . . . . the typical Igbo personality looks for loopholes in the system rather than following the rule of law and that is not conducive to nation building. . . the reason why Britain is strong? I can see it everyday. . . we queue at the bus stop for example. . . .we always follow the rule of law. . . the people make the nation, not the leaders. . . . I don't think you would see this kind of organisation in Africa. . . . a typical Igbo man has no problem if he is a trillionaire, whilst his brother is a pauper. . . . do you think corruption would be any less in Biafra?. . . . . as many have said on here, Ojukwu did not sell the dream of Biafra to the minorities of Eastern Nigeria. . . . for us, it was akin to moving from one master to another. . . the fact is that the Ijaw nation is 10 million strong and needs no master. . . . still, almost anything is better than living in Nigeria. . . . afterall, Igbos are our brothers, we can live peacefully with them, no problem.


Now, back to your point. . . . this idea of Biafra pre-1966 is completely new to me. . . . lest we forget, the NCNC was the strongest party in Nigeria, they were the party who won our independence. . . . you could say they were set to be the equivalent of the ANC in South Africa. . . . and they were dominated by Igbo's. . . . the confidence amongst Igbo's post Independence was very high. . . . there was no talk of secession. . . . their confidence was so high that when they failed to get power by political means, they conducted the first ever military putsch in Nigeria. . . .never forget that the Igbo's started the military era in Nigeria . . .as Dayo said, it takes extreme confidence to kill the Western and Northern Premiers. . . . don't you think that kind of confidence comes from a sense of belonging and superiority?. . . . the Igbo's always believed they were destined to rule. . . that kind of confidence is what scares other tribes, whether in Nigeria or in the South Eastern region of Biafra.

Let me give you a little anecdote. . . . Cyprian Ekwensi was under investigation for some malpractice at the Ministry of Information in 1965. . . . infact, he was suspended. . . . .next thing you know, after the 1965 coup, he was reinstated and all charges dropped, and he was even promoted to head his department. . . . at which point he called his Yoruba colleague (who had previously been in a higher position than him) and said "I'm back in town! You guys don't the calibre of people you are dealing with!". . . . this is the kind of confidence that the Igbo's display which scares other tribes. . . . they are not democratic in their dealings, it's like they feel they have a divine right to call the shots. . . .for example, ijaws were not really consulted about the whole Biafra thing and that is why many of them fought for Naija. . . . but you better believe that if the Igbo's declare civil war in 2009, we will fight alongside them as brothers. . . . as far as your assertion that the idea of Biafra existed way before Independence, Biafra was born in 1966 and that is it. . . . . at that time, the Igbo's controlled NCNC and all other tribes within NCNC followed their agenda, until the Yorubas split to form AG.

It is either you need to read with a degree of serious determination or you have issues of comprehension. You could not be more wrong with this post. By the way, Biafra would have become the beacon of Africa in industrial revolution.

@poster

You had a point in Roman Catholic as against Authentic African religion. But trash the idea of Puerto Day or India Day when discussing African culture or lack thereof. Also bear in mind that the Europeans have thoroughly brainwashed Africans to junk their Authentic African religion and some instances culture. As a result of this calculated social machination injected into Africa through colonization, hence inferior mentality. As we are discussing this issue, few of the contributors that are lobbing mud at you might have eaten EBA (fufu) with spoon.

It is unpardonable ignorance to describe human beings by color. No human being is white, blue, red, green, yellow, purple or black. The adjectival clause of color was employed by colonist as a disdainful tool on Africans.

okunoba:
from DEDE1
Be mindful that you claimed you saw. I deduced that one can only see the action or act if one was a participant.

If I saw super eagles play against England does that mean I also played in the game? Your logic is interesting. if I saw a man steal that makes me a thief also. Where is the logic. To see something is not the same as to participate. If ur parents or anybody in your family went to school in western Nigeria in the sixties they definitely benefited from Awolowo`s free education. Where is the anger from?

Your sense of analogy is not only hilarious but silly. I hope that the people you saw participating in the act of homosexuality were in the stadium and being televised too. By the way, if you watch soccer matches even though you were not one of the eleven players, you participated or involved in the games. If you saw a man stealing a pack, you are an eyewitness and will be required to give evidence. A person who did not see the man stole a pack of cigar would not be involved in the case.

I do not know where you sniffed the anger from my post. For an umpteenth time, my family and I never attended any form of formal education in Western Nigeria.

okunoba:
from Dede1
Unless you are a participant in such a horrible act

Who are u to judge? u so quick to put others down. Awolowo provided free education to ur parents yet u run him down. na wa for u o.

If I may recall correctly, it is truly yours that persecuted and sentenced to life the few fortunate Nigerians who attended boarding school as homosexuals. Be mindful that you claimed you saw. I deduced that one can only see the action or act if one was a participant. I had to burst your bubble by informing you that my entire family never benefited from the madness called free-education you claimed Awolowo provided.

okunoba:
Did u guys not go to boarding school in Nigeria. I did and saw many homo acts by students who are probably married with kids today. Some like it short, some like it long, some like it dark, some like it light. Each to his own, who are we to judge.

I attended boarding school system in Nigeria and did not notice any act of homosexuality. Unless you are a participant in such a horrible act, you will not notice it as in the context of Nigeria. Friends holding hands together while working on the street could not be considered an indicator of homosexual act because many Nigerians were oblivion to such act. I did not know that homosexual or even divorcee existed until I left shores of the jungle called Nigeria.