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cococandy:
He actually doesn’t have to believe it to say it.

Sometimes you meet people where they are because that’s how best to relate to them.

I believe in NOTHING the Quran teaches but if I’m a leader who has Muslims in my community , it wouldn’t make me two-faced to address their religious celebrations the way they see it.

There’s nothing in his speech that says he personally believe Jesus was killed. He merely acknowledges that it is what Christians are celebrating

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In the first two paragraphs he does use words that communicate he believes things Muslims don't believe. He calls it a holy and sacred day and talks about the power of rebirth significant to Easter, etc. All of this is against Islamic teaching.

Nonetheless as I said I like the man and that is a warm and inclusive way to relate with diversity.

Vision101:
So Buhari was not in power then? You seem not to understand the point.

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He was so that's why the centre still held.

cococandy:
Wow, now is a good time to point out that Mamdani is a Muslim. Generally, Muslims do not celebrate Easter.
Yet, Mamdani acknowledges and celebrates the holy days of Christians. This is what fostering inclusivity and respectful recognition look like.

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Two ways to view this. On one hand, it could show how broad minded he is considering that Muslims do not believe that Jesus was killed at all, not to speak of being resurrected. On the other hand, it could show him as simply a two faced politician for saying what he does not believe in.

I like the man regardless and such warm statements are beneficial to the world.

lagonovo:
That's my reason. US dominated a more defined world with fully formed nations. The dominance is further underlined by a diverse immigrant population which is overwhelmingly the highest in the world dwarfing the combined total of the next 4 nations at the top.

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Well, I just think there should be other criteria.

lagonovo:
Dude, US dominated when most nations were already fully formed and defined, and the influence covered the entire world.

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The word is "ever." So is it the greatest country in history? I say no.
If you say yea, what exactly are your reasons?

Kukutente23:
Shows I'm not the only one trying to put you out of your arrogant ignorance

I'm good. How are you doing too? I see you've been pestering zombies in a less forgiving manner than ever before

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How dare you call me arrogant, I am a most humble man, get down on you knees at once!

Realinfogeneral:
Mightiness refers to the quality of possessing great power, physical strength, authority, or grandeur. It often describes immense capacity, such as in "the mightiness of God's creation" or a, "mightiness of King Lear's rage". It is frequently used in literary contexts to denote supreme power or magnitude.

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See the bold in my explanation below.

DeepSight:
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As I explained -

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I still dislike it. Sounds like saying "strengthness." There is a tautology inherent in that.

Anyone who has a real understanding of English will understand what I am saying.

The quality of being strong is called strength. You don't need to add "Ness" to it. The quality of being mighty is called might. You don't need to add anything to it.

At best it is an archaic usage that can only be found in drama or some poetry with poetic license.

Mightiness is not current proper usage but anyone can write what they like.

I sha advise you not to use it in civilised or polished company. They will snigger at you.

Kukutente23:
Are you the moderator of what is civilised and what isn't now
And what makes you so sure ill get sniggered at
You're the only one on NL who seems to have a problem with the use so far
Are you saying you're the only civilised/polished person here? That's arrogance

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Nah. BTW that was a response I wrote to someone else not you.

Anyway it's a trivial matter.

How bodi. I miss our contentions.

Looks like they will never let a Christian day of Celebration go without blood.

Vision101:
Can you remember that Buhari even as president had problems in APC and the national Assembly. Remember the Senate issues. Why is the same APC well managed now free from major rancour and attracting more people?

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When a party is in power it is easier to control because there is someone at the top in the person of the president who has all financial and coercive tools of state

Raumdeuter, another "random" strike?

Kukutente23:
So why attempt to force your personal dislike on others
That's fascist

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As I explained -

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I still dislike it. Sounds like saying "strengthness." There is a tautology inherent in that.

Anyone who has a real understanding of English will understand what I am saying.

The quality of being strong is called strength. You don't need to add "Ness" to it. The quality of being mighty is called might. You don't need to add anything to it.

At best it is an archaic usage that can only be found in drama or some poetry with poetic license.

Mightiness is not current proper usage but anyone can write what they like.

I sha advise you not to use it in civilised or polished company. They will snigger at you.

TV01:
Deepsight here's your weekend portion

You claim that Christians rejecting slavery is evolution. A "moral evolution" that takes them away from the "slavery" you insist the bible endorses. Fine, let's work with that. If this moral evolution as you term it took place, it was either as a result of their faith or their culture - and all that entails - which led to the subsequent civilisational progress.

Could you please show evidence of that same "moral evolution" in moose.slim countries or jurisdictions - slavery is clearly embedded in their texts and they only "legally" ceased trading under threat of war - as recently as 1960 or thereabouts (you can still buy black people in those parts).

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I quote my words to ono -

It is a pity that there is much that is very backward about this religion. And more so since it once experienced a golden age when it was the leading light of much advanced thought in the world.

Sadly it has been unable to shake off the tendency towards misogyny/ gender apartheid as well as a very violent streak which is taken straight from the pages of its scripture. The insistence on dictating what women wear in many Islamic countries, and the fact that in a place like Saudi Arabia until very very recently they were even denied the right to drive, is very telling. Many women in these theocratic places cannot even travel or move at all without permission from a male, what is that?

Beyond that look at the application of Shariah law in Northern Nigeria. It has been used to lock up several non Muslims for years - for alleged blasphemy in a supposedly secular country with constitutional freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, conscience and religion? Look at the gruesome murder of Deborah, a Christian student in Northern Nigeria by a Muslim mob. Those who did it were on camera and they went scot free, even the governor justified it.

The truth is that this religion has an explicit creeping doctrine in which it seeks the total subjugation of the world to Islamic tenets. And in this they are specifically guided to appear moderate and gentle when in the minority but to become belligerent when in the majority. This is where the practice of Taqiyya often comes in. Telling lies to defend oneself and to defend Islam when in a weak position. But once they are in the majority, no one can truly be safe in terms of the rights we understand to be standard in the modern world.

Look at the practice of honor killing for example. What can we say of that.

There is too much that Islam has not evolved past and frankly it is still dwelling in the medieval world.

And lest I be accused of singling out moose.slims, please show where\when\how this moral evolution took place in your country? Where and when amongst the cultures or religions was it changed? I stand to be corrected, but there is nothing I can find?

Surely this ME would also encompass human sacrifice, blood offerings, money rituals etc. All of which are still rampant. Or, are they not as bad as slavery, which also still is.

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Such evil exists on the fringes of society, and is criminalized by law and is not to be compared to that which was orthodox and legal such as slavery in its time - not just legal but defended morally by scripture.

Or perhaps you are just claiming the countries\nations\peples whith historic Judeo-Christian backgrounds are better . I an't callin' nobody "House N" or "Uncle R", just saying

TV

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Nonsense.
As history shows, Judeo-Christian background didnt lead to freedom or egalitarian societies.
Gradual moral evolution through rebellions, wars did - and the efforts during the age of enlightenment / the renaissance, were key

Biodun1929:
They will definitely make a Hollywood movie about this. Behind Enemy Lines 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUeWBp_kmuo&t=4s

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That occured to me instantly.
E too sure.

I am sure they are working in the screenplay already.

Nwaikpe:
But e sweet say you got the message!

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I still dislike it. Sounds like saying "strengthness." There is a tautology inherent in that.

Anyone who has a real understanding of English will understand what I am saying.

The quality of being strong is called strength. You don't need to add "Ness" to it. The quality of being mighty is called might. You don't need to add anything to it.

At best it is an archaic usage that can only be found in drama or some poetry with poetic license.

Mightiness is not current proper usage but anyone can write what they like.

I sha advise you not to use it in civilised or polished company. They will snigger at you.

musicwriter:
Of course, that's the lie that Christendom has heaped on your head.

There's a book you can quickly read to set yourself free. It's called THE 16 CRUCIFIED SAVIOURS. All of them were called "Christ" before anybody heard about your God Jesus.

In fact, Ptolemy, the second in command to Alexander the great, called himself "Christ" about 300 BC. Soter means "Saviour, Redeemer, Deliverer." So, stop talking what you know nothing about

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I think you assume too much, are pompous in your assumptions and therefore rude without thinking. You also imagine you know it all.
And what have you assumed here? You have assumed that I am Christian and that I believe the Jesus story.

Kukutente23:
Stop doing oversabi
Mightiness is a word

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It's archaic.
And I don't like it. . . . Very inelegant.

Kukutente23:
That's true
There were more casualties on the Iranian side

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Likely. . . . Possible.

sonmvayina:
Scripture never said that. It is the Christian deception. Please read Isaiah 44 and 45 for clarity.....

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"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made"

- John 1:1-3

Lucifyre:
For any claim or proposition to be considered true in the first place, there are certain requirements it must meet; otherwise, it’s just an empty claim. Truth, as we understand it, is objective. Truth is verifiable and demonstrable. Truth stands regardless of belief or acceptance.

Truth is falsifiable and consistent. Truth is non-contradictory. And Christianity quite clearly falls short of these criteria, making its claims anything but established truth. In fact, no religion meets that standard— they all make assertions and label them as truth. That’s a big difference.

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Truth may not be verifiable, demonstrable or falsifiable. Because there are many things that are true that no human being can ever know about, talk less of verify, demonstrate or falsify.

But yes, Truth must be consistent. And it stands regardless of belief.

musicwriter:
So, you know all that? If so, it doesn't appear you made the first comment that I replied to.

As you rightly said, the concept of "Christ" has been for thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus. Europeans coalesced all the older "Christ" stories that existed in the known world to create Jesus.

People called "Christ" and sons of Gods before Jesus include; Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Mithra, Zoroaster, Ptolemy Soter, etc).

Europeans simply coalesced all of them and fashioned out Jesus. That's why Jesus has all the attributes of the older Saviours, Redeemers, Messiah

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The word "Christos" existed in Greek, yes and simply meant "anointed one" and was commonly used, but the concept as a saving messiah did not exist, that concept came from the Jews.

Realinfogeneral:
The mightiness of the US military !

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There is no word such as the bold.
Just say "might"

Anyone who thinks there were no further casualties in this operation must be assuming too much at this stage.

Reason1313:
....

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Is that you oh deity.

Nwaikpe:
You love attention.
But you are an adult.
That is strange.

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Lol. Nah.
I do love contrasting ideologies though.

Dikastan:
Where are the so called American soldiers

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Jakumo.
Nwaikpe.
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Rich4god:
10 15 years from now, there might be no Christian in northern Nigeria. Then another 10-15 years, Nigeria will become a full islamic country.

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This will never happen, lo ru ko Sango.

lagonovo:
There is nothing bad in calling a spade a spade regardless of personal beef.

US is the greatest country ever.

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On what metrics.

raumdeuter:
The American empire is more far reaching that any empire that has ever existed. It reaches every corner of the globe

You should get some education. In Nigeria that you live now go and check the country most Nigerians will prefer to japa to if given the visa

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This is illiterate and ahistorical.

musicwriter:
I no longer have time for this type of discussion because any discussion about Jesus is waste of time.

There was nobody that ever existed in this world called Jesus Christ. It's a complete forgery.

Jesus NEVER existed and I've already pointed you to a book to learn how the story evolved from a snake. But while you can take a horse to the stream, you can't force it to drink

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And I asked if you are the author.

TV01, Tctrills, SirTee15