₦airaland Forum

basilico:
I can't believe that someone in this day and age would believe 60,000 killed by IDF.
Those are Hamas figures. Let me know how many of their fighters were killed.

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Look at this one. So you dont even know that Israel has confirmed Hamas' figures?

basilico:
Where was Kamala Harris during that time? Her exact spot would indicate whether the majority of the convicted and jailed deserved the trespass charge.
Tell me where she was , overlay that with protected area charge

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Abeg jaare. I have seen you for who you are and have lost interest.

basilico:
The Justice Department has compensated people who were wrongfully prosecuted in the past. J6 protesters were wrongfully prosecuted , excluding Ray Epps who should have been jailed .

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This finally nails the coffin. Wonderful, from he who claimed to be objective and open minded.

And oh, many J6 people have re-offended in terrible ways.

Lithiumite:
And dangote would have been selling the fuel to you at below market price because he likes your mother....are you listening to yourself,dangote himself said it that there was no way the downstream sector could survive if govt kept setting prices,you need to fully deregulate.....how many queues have you seen since subsidy was gone.....many filling stations that were hitherto moribund are now all active now than it was before,if post subsidy wasn't good many would have shot down by now.

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Illiteracy.

I am sure you are also ready to tell me how Tinubu constructed the Lagos Lagoon.

Lithiumite:
If 8 out of 10 on SM are obidients,then I guess it's safe to say......no one is saying don't criticize but do so logically and fairly not throw lies all about.

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Ol boy even the most logical and fairest criticisms are met with "Igbo rest" or "Ipob you are bitter" or Obi is a fraud."

How do you people just assume. In a country of over 300 ethnic groups every critic must be Igbo. It's nonsense and it's childish.

swaggerific:
That’s why I really think there probably is a troll farm somewhere that they use to coordinate messaging and flood nairaland with attacks on Obi or Atiku or anyone that seeks to fight for the regular guy on the street other than Tinubu

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But one hardly sees attacks on Atiku. Almost every knee jerk response is an attack on Obi even when he is not relevant.

Lithiumite:
Obi has the largest paid online presence, obi's strength is on social media..... conventional media is taking care of atiku and besides,atiku respects himself and his supporters don't go about throwing lies about the govt.....imagine the white lie obidients keep telling that they won the 23 elections,as in how nah,what manner of propaganda is that..... obidients took opposition to the dogs.

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So it's on account of the attitude of Obidients.

I can understand that to a certain degree.

But why do you guys also jump to assume that any one who criticizes the govt is an Obi supporter?

WizardOfNG:
Rubbish as usual presented as general consensus.

How about the many, Nigerians , who are well-read and exposed enough to understand how developed nation got where they are today?

People in that category passionately believe Tinubu is doing exactly what developed nation did, including the unspoken appeal for Nigerians to sacrifice for a much better future as they have never had, so that Nigeria too becomes like Finland, Sweden, Canada, Singapore etal.

You think everyone is against Tinubu because Nigeria has a disproportionate amount of people who are uneducated and lack critical knowledge.

You will be shocked to see the error of your ways and thinking February next year as I have warned you already to expect.

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The repeated appeal for the population to sacrifice is insulting when the people making that appeal bask in the highest and most wanton corruption.

Lithiumite:
Steady fuel at the pumps was as a result of the removal of subsidy,dangote can decide to sell his petrol in the foreign market if govt owed him money if subsidy was still in place....go and get your facts and stop listening to lies.....do your own research.

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Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

This is a huge joke.

Steady fuel had jack to do with subsidy removal and we still even had the worst scarcity after subsidy removal.

In fact logically correlate steady fuel to subsidy removal if you can.

It was strictly achieved when Dangote refinery started pumping steadily.

Lithiumite:
When last did you have queues at the pumps? When last did you have to sleep over at the gas station,you still buy that same fuel at high cost during the scarcity induced by Shylock marketers every time, shouldn't that tell you something that the old subsidy regime was dysfunctional......imagine what would have happened if govt was still paying subsidies with this Iran/ USA war......you would have totally been at the mercy of marketers...... almighty nupeng threatened to go on strike during their clash with dangote and the country didn't flinch one bit as was in the past.....you might like suffering but as for me I prefer the current post subsidy regime.

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Steady fuel at the pumps is thanks to Dangote which was NOT Tinubus doing please.

Ballmer:
So you were hoping how you ran rampage promoting a fraudster like peter Obi in the last election is also how you will in the next election ba ?

Lithiumite:
The group known for propaganda are the obidients, go check every anti govt thread,they come out in droves to delusionally spite the govt but let any positive news come out about Nigeria, they go silent like deaf hermits and when they decide to comment,they want to rain on your parade,what kind of people... as patriotic nigerians we will never allow those who dont see any hope in the country rest .

Lithiumite:
The group known for propaganda are the obidients, go check every anti govt thread,they come out in droves to delusionally spite the govt but let any positive news come out about Nigeria, they go silent like deaf hermits and when they decide to comment,they want to rain on your parade,what kind of people... as patriotic nigerians we will never allow those who dont see any hope in the country rest .

You try sha unlike many obidient you confessed that there are many now supporting n defending Bola Tinubu so you can understand he won whe. He has no one defending him n defending his vote at the ballot but now that Tinubu soldiers yapa I wonder how you want bribe people to vote your Obi.

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Can I ask a sincere question. When people criticise the govt why do you guys immediately attack Obi. Why not Atiku. After all Atiku came second in the last election. So is he not the bigger opponent?

basilico:
I only listed some initiatives that help black empowerment.
A good example. Stacey Abrams.
Green Energy Initiative
April 2023: Abrams began working with Rewiring America as a senior counsel to advocate for the transition to electric energy in underserved communities.
2023–2024: She led the "Vitalizing DeSoto" pilot project in a small Georgia town. This initiative replaced energy-inefficient appliances with electric upgrades for 75% of the community (approx. 116 homes) to demonstrate lower utility costs.

April 2024: Based on the success of the DeSoto project, the Power Forward Communities coalition—which includes Rewiring America—was awarded a $2 billion grant from the EPA’s Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund.

Early 2025: The grant became a subject of political controversy. Critics, including President Donald Trump and EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin, alleged wasteful spending and questioned Abrams' role.

So the EPA gave her $2B billion to buy home appliances for deserving communities.
Most likely those deserving communities had appliances more expensive than what majority of Nigerians can' afford.
No need to say which race was considered.
Call a spade for what it is , A spade. That project was a direct reparation .

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Deep shame.

budaatum:
Yes it is deep. I found it indicative of a shallowness I was not expecting, and I have been struggling to adjust.

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Well, for what it's worth, recall that I said a personality issue, the word mental was used by someone else. And to my limited understanding people who have difficulty or uncertainty about their sex certainly have some issue with identifying personality. I did not mean it as any insult. And I was also speaking generally and not specifically about you.

Also, for what it's worth, accept, if you are able, my apologies.

basilico:
Blacks have received direct help and funding especially after 1964 to bring the up to par.
Voting Rights Act of 1965 redressed historical exclusion.

Executive Order 11246 mandated fair federal hiring practices.Fair

Housing Act 1968 prohibited systemic residential discrimination.

Economic Opportunity Act programs targeted deep systemic poverty.

400 Years History Commission Act recognized slavery's legacy.

Emmett Till Antilynching Act criminalized historical racial violence.

California Reparations Task Force studied statewide restorative justice.

Evanston Restorative Housing Program provided local housing grants.

Maryland Lynching Commission researched historical racially motivated violence.

New York Reparations Commission examined slavery's enduring impacts.

A lot of average IQ blacks got admissions to Ivy league. I'm not saying anything.

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Shame.

budaatum:
Like buda's gender. Mystical.

Can you imagine how dumb I'd sound if I ignorantly assumed your + is a sign of mental illness?

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Oh. So that's the source of your recent hostility.

basilico:
How much has been spent on improving blacks since the passage of the civil rights act. Answer
$26-30 Trillion.IRS has collected between $85-90 Trillion in revenues within the same period. Data from Google Gemini

What do they have to show for it apart from demands for reparations.

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You should be ashamed of yourself.

yarimo:
Gbam

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bemeruca:
Bell’s basic claim is that Black gains are often accepted when they converge with white interests, not simply because the dominant group suddenly became altruistic. In Bell’s famous Brown v. Board of Education and the Interest-Convergence Dilemma, he writes that “the interest of blacks in achieving racial equality will be accommodated only when it converges with the interests of whites,” and that effective remedies are less likely when they threaten whites’ superior social status.

As usual, you Re an empty b-rell making noise.

https://blog.richmond.edu/criticalracetheory/files/2019/02/Brown-v.-Board-of-Education-and-the-Interest-Convergence-Dilemma-1.pdf

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Kneel down.

bemeruca:
Tell us what it is.

I know you don't have anything as usual

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Prostrate.

bemeruca:
CRT posit that if the white man comes out with reparation today for slavery, they would be doing it to advance their own agenda not to help black people.

So it assume racial self interest and domination even where there may be genuine moral concern, charity, or principle.

It turns too many actions into proof of the same conclusion.

If whites help blacks, it can be called racist paternalism.

If they do not help, it can be called racist neglect.

that is why the theory circular and unfalsifiable.

Also, if CRT claims major institutions are built to preserve white dominance, then the fact that those same institutions now promote CRT rmbegs the question: is CRT really challenging the system, or has it become another ideology the system uses for its own purposes?


This is from 2021:

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Just as I suspected, you don't even know what CRT is.

Olodo.

bemeruca:
Then your argument falls apart.

Critical race theory is BS. We already debated it here years ago

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How is it BS?
Summarize CRT in one line.

Because from what I have gathered about you, anything you say is BS probably makes sense and anything you say makes sense is probably BS.

bemeruca:
The problem is, everyone in the world today deserve the same reparation. Every single person on earth is related to someone that was a slave.

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Being related is not sufficient to indicate situational inherited marginalisation.

Are you familiar with CRT.

qleap2all:
We're likely going to see another protest by another faction soon!

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Standard!

Skinnygee1:
I don't know why these stupid ADC leaders didn't form their own party to avoid issues like this


Now apc don hold dem for blokos

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They actually tried.

Xxxxx

yarimo:
ADC hijackers are shameless people claiming patriotic opposition

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We all know it's been almost a year since you had a proper meal.

budaatum:
What you think about people who always start their posts with +?

My own thoughts, if you wondered, is that's their thing.
It says absolutely nothing about the stability or mental state of a person since I can already read that in their actual words.

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It is an occultic thing, don't question it.

bemeruca:
Yes, so?

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If people inherit wealth, advantage and privilege, people also inherit poverty, disadvantage and deprivation.

And if that poverty, disadvantage and deprivation was propagated by an institutionalised racist system, then compensation is in order.

Especially when the perpetrators and their descendants were compensated.

It is painfully ridiculous to go so far as to argue that even an apology is not in order.

Benalvino Badenoch.

My only difficulty with the matter of reparations is that determining who gets what will be too complex to be realistic.

But moral acknowledgement is in order.

bemeruca:
Its a post. A tweet, and do us a favor and post the tweet here let's see what Trump actually said.

So if the civilization will end base on this post, who will he the Iranians that God will bless in the same post?

I think he meant infrastructures. But you guys will be you guys

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I insist you eat six stones.

bemeruca:
This your logic will be rejected by even a lice.
By your logic, all of us suffered from slavery so who pays who? Even the white men you love to accuse, their gggggggrrrrrrreat grand parents suffered from slavery.

I understand, and what you just post is nonsense and if I disagree it's because I don't understand. Look at you 😂😂😂😂

Again, suffering isn't genetically inherited like that. If it were, we would owe reparations to virtually every ethnic group on this planet. From descendants of Roman slaves, Mongol conquest victims, Arab slave trade survivors, intra-African war captives, Irish indentured servants, etc. Trauma can echo culturally and psychologically across generations, but turning that into perpetual national debt claims is a political construct, not consostent moral principle.

So you want to force a company into Ghana because of historical grievance?

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Do people inherit wealth?

bemeruca:
Nobody today should pay a dime to people who never suffered slavery. Forget about it, you don't even deserve an apology from people living today. Get used to it.

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Vermiculus HN on the beat.

budaatum:
The familiar alchemy of imperial innocence: commit the crime, profit from the crime, ensure the compensation of slave owners when the crime ends, then seek moral credit for moderating the system you helped to create. It is a politics of historical laundering.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/apr/08/slave-trade-uk-eu-ghana-un-resolution-slavery

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People like Vermiculus TV01 and Vermiculus benalvino3 believe they deserve the credit and eternal praise.