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benalvino3:
White people are tolerant

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I don't know what manner of ignorance this is. Perhaps it's just inferiority complex and worship of white skin.

Image123:
Lolz, he had to resort to speaking in tongues. Better no increase your blood pressure, Tinubu no send like that o.

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Seriously, with citizens like you, Nigeria is in for a long haul. Each time I see citizens like you, I understand why we are where we are.

A people get the leaders they deserve.

TV01:
Again, nothing evil or wicked or that causes human harm is commanded or prescribed for Christians. I have clearly explained the OT laws given to the Jews and the Jews only (and non-Jews living amongt them) in direct covenant with a holy God.

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Even if the OT was directed at only Jews -

1. It still raises questions as to the nature of the God that could have prescribed such barbarity for them. It only confirms and corroborates his disclosed nature as a barbarian in many other acts across the OT.

2. The verses in Ephesians and Colossians explicitly, insidiously and diabolically teach Christians to accept bondage on their hearts and not to pretend about it.

Christianity does not teach them, that is why Christians reject them.

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Christianity taught them and Christians defended such teachings for almost two thousand years.

I didn't exempt slavery - if as you claim Christianity has evolved, what in addition to slavery has evolved?

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If this is the case why did you specifically require that something else other than slavery should be mentioned?

Yes now, like your people naturally evolved from witch hunts, killing twins or selling their kindred for brollys?

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I hope you know the European witch hunts which took hundreds of thousands of lives were not so long ago in historical terms?

Your retorts are weak. Why was it Christians and not Atheists (who Christians had to fight) unburdened by religion that championed abolition? Wishy-washy tropes like "moral evolution" do not happen in a vacuum. Christianity did that.

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It is absurd to attribute this to Christians save perhaps the Quakers who had fought alongside many other abolitionists for a long time.

It's not my fault that the meaning of fulfil escapes you. When a law\contract is fulfilled, you are discharged, no longer subject to that law - replete in the bible. The new covenant ratified by The Blood of Jesus Christ is one of grace, not law

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Christ is clear with his words, it is you who seeks to twist them. Because if he meant that the law had passed away, he would not have said that he did not come to abolish it.

The entire doctrine of Grace via the sacrificial murder of Jesus of Nazareth, itself an abominable pagan doctrine which should shame you, is a matter for another day.

Please stop mis-ascribing, mis-interpreting or willfully mis-reading the bible to justify your pain and 8tred. You are easily read and more easily debunked.

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You debunk nothing and are not scholarly enough to be interesting.

benalvino3:
Ask him why he posted a photo of him and his boyfriend on a date

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A man can't hangout with a male friend without being gay? What universe is that?

Image123:
i can't see your increase deepS. i keep telling you that for ages.

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​Opinio vermiculi ne minimi quidem momenti mihi est.

Kalulu44:
I just hope you're not doing business, working or have clients that are from the region you didn't mention. Bcus if you do........ Let me not say what's on my mind for sake of banning. But if you're doing so, then you are an hypocrite of the highest order.

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Business? Your instincts are not sharp. That chap cant be in any business, one can tell he is still being taken care of by his parents and hasn't finished school.

Image123:
When e reach your turn, choose Obi.

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This is what you have been reduced to.
Shame.

Lamidi Apapa.

Richtaiwo:
David Mark served as a military officer, while Tinubu has been a civilian.

It is therefore unreasonable to expect a military officer, given the demands of their physically intensive career, to have the same level of physical fitness as a civilian.

This is straightforward and requires no complex explanation.

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That chap is in his mid eighties at the minimum.

Image123:
Jagaban, the man of the year/decade

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Pathetic.

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Leepeak:
1998 news paper 52 years
Abeg make I talk truth so that dem go give me rice
Tinubu is 74

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Why bother? Even his name is fake.

ono:
You know what? Let's wait for him to come and disprove this claim. Is that OK?

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Very well, although I doubt he will bother and if I were him I would not either.

Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

ono:
Good points for the most parts. Well done!

But the statement in bold appears to not apply to the adherents of Islam, what say you?

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It is a pity that there is much that is very backward about this religion. And more so since it once experienced a golden age when it was the leading light of much advanced thought in the world.

Sadly it has been unable to shake off the tendency towards misogyny/ gender apartheid as well as a very violent streak which is taken straight from the pages of its scripture. The insistence on dictating what women wear in many Islamic countries, and the fact that in a place like Saudi Arabia until very very recently they were even denied the right to drive, is very telling. Many women in these theocratic places cannot even travel or move at all without permission from a male, what is that?

Beyond that look at the application of Shariah law in Northern Nigeria. It has been used to lock up several non Muslims for years - for alleged blasphemy in a supposedly secular country with constitutional freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of thought, conscience and religion? Look at the gruesome murder of Deborah, a Christian student in Northern Nigeria by a Muslim mob. Those who did it were on camera and they went scot free, even the governor justified it.

The truth is that this religion has an explicit creeping doctrine in which it seeks the total subjugation of the world to Islamic tenets. And in this they are specifically guided to appear moderate and gentle when in the minority but to become belligerent when in the majority. This is where the practice of Taqiyya often comes in. Telling lies to defend oneself and to defend Islam when in a weak position. But once they are in the majority, no one can truly be safe in terms of the rights we understand to be standard in the modern world.

Look at the practice of honor killing for example. What can we say of that.

There is too much that Islam has not evolved past and frankly it is still dwelling in the medieval world.

ono:
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You said he came out openly with his full chest. Why are you now sending quotes from a bemeruca who I already saw made that accusation ad infinitum ad nauseum?

ono:
https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ijebos+is+gay&search=Search

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Thank you for wasting my time. After looking through I can't find any post that says what you claim.

Why do I have this feeling that Ijebos = DeepSight?

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You can think whatever you like.
I have a record on this board dating back to 2009.

GloriousGbola:
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/c625xw27d2vo

Helen Ukpabio in the chat

stop those child witches from destroying your destiny!!

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Sad.

ono:
Oh, I am not the one who cast him as gay. I understand that himself came out in the open, and as my people will say "with his full chest", to say he's gay.

Let him come and tell us he's not - and I will humbly apologise stop my outbursts and attacks against an innocent man.

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Where did he so come out or is this hearsay. Provide the link.

TV01:
Could you make the distinction between what people do or their practices, and what Christianity\The Bible\NT actually preaches and instructs Christians to do?. I repeat, Christianity has not "evolved".

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This is ahistorical.

The Bible contains teachings such as that commanding the murder of so called witches and injunctions authorizing slavery and these have been implemented by Christians through the ages to disastrous effect through the witch hunts where the refrain "suffer not a witch to live" (Exodus 22:18) was deployed for centuries and through the slave trade where biblical verses were deployed as well in defense of and authorization of slavery.

That Christians today reject these is evolution.

1. An evil, wicked or harmful practice in the NT (not just slavery) or prescribed for Christians that Christians have evolved away from.

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The very fact that you have to exempt slavery when presenting this dubious challenge shows you to be acting fraudulently.

2. Why Christians fought and died to abolish slavery when as claimed the bible supports it?

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In the natural moral evolution of humans they gradually come to recognize certain things as barbaric and abandon them.

PS: The distinction you and others strive to make between the OT and NT is futile for Christ himself said that he came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it.

ono:
Not my gain. It's his. And because the Lord wants him to do this, He loved him, He has sent someone like him (ijebos) to come out in the open and show others the way to their redemption.

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On what ground do you attempt to cast him as gay repeatedly?

ayusco85:
The goal is the maturation of your soul through your life experiences. Not to have a perfect life. Free will is what you do with those experiences that happened to u.

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Are we to take some of the abominable barbarities of EARTHLIFE as designed by the perfect creator for our maturation?

You should try and read more about life to find out what life is and life's purpose

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This is laughably broad. Pray tell, where can I "read more about life?"

ono:
Ijebos:

https://www.nairaland.com/8643415/what-me-husband-gained-after

Not too late to retrace your steps.

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What do you gain by this?

basilico:
Argentina has a lot of unanswered questions about where their black slaves went. There are claims they were sent to the front lines the way King David sent Uriah the Hitite to the fronlines after impregnating his wife Bethsheba.

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Argentina annihilated its black population.

America and Israel know this is the usual UN bashing by Muslims to cover up their role in the slave trade.
Most Europeans don't have oil plus their cultural enrichment efforts to obtain the Muslim vote at home means they abstained

That's enough for today from me.

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It is stoopid to say that this is a Muslim thing.

How does a perfect creator create an imperfect life?

basilico:
They can barbeque it, that money is not going onto rockets . As happened under Obama.
Iran better surrender and negotiate their way out, the US is not running out of bombs and missiles any time soon if ever. Their infrastructure is being degraded.
Trump yesterday said they have 3500 targets left, after hitting 10000. These are key targets identified before the onset, there are still a lot more opportune targets that crop up by the minute.

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Lol. Open minded man indeed. And you wonder why I did not waste my time proving Trump's corruption to you. Only a fool would bother.

basilico:
.what will they do with the money now. They can as well barbeque the money and eat it because they won't be building any missile factory above the ground.

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They can do a lot with it.
Drop the double standards.

So typical of Trumpists.

basilico:
Obama gave them access to their money , when he could have struck them . They used the money to develop those capabilities in play now.
His jpcoa deal did nothing to stop them having a nuclear bomb. They were only to behave for 8-10 years , the way hudna treaties are negotiated by Muslims when they are weak. Iran didn't even wait for inl to dry on paper before they started testing their ballistic missiles.
By August 2010 IDF had finalized plans to take out the Bushehr nuclear reactor before they could load the uranium rods. Obama prevailed upon Israel not to attack.
The rest is History

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The point for me is the double standards on any measure that leads to them having more cash - especially during a war with the US.
And oh, have you seen Trumps 15 points for peace?

Its a replica of the JCPOA.

So go figure.

benalvino3:
Seun your bot is a problem.

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Big time.

basilico:
The foundation of Islam is based on slavery.
All ME countries voted for the resolution apart from Israel . They laser focus on who bought their slaves ignoring they captured, sold and enslaved more than the Western nations.
African nations looking for a chance to sue the western joined in on the resolution.

So that's what I'm saying. The worst culprits get to hide their hideous role and refocus their attention on the west , who actually stopped their trade.. after hundreds of years.
The Arabs still have ongoing slavery today .
But don't forget the UN has a block of 57 (+1) Muslim majority nations that vote as a block. The OIC. They control 25-35% of global oil output , they can crush other countries economies through the oil. A motion supported by the OIC will usually have at least 120 /193 states aligning with them on many issues.

Zanzibar off the off the coast of Tanzania had a slave market.

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It is telling that only the US, Israel and Argentina voted against it.

basilico:
He lifted to sanctions to allow 38 million barrels enter the market instead of sitting in oil tankers.
That's 2 days of oil that transits through Hormuz.

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The point is that clown keeps bleating that Obama dashed them money (when he didnt) - and yet he can ignore Trump lifting sanctions on them which provide them with resources during a war with the US.

Nateevs2:
You are a clown.

Trump and Bessent last week lifted sanctions on Iranian Oil.......something that has not been done by any President since 1996 and furthermore in 2012.

These sanctions are set to earn Iran over $14bn dollars, which will now go into the development of more hypersonic missiles which the US has no defence against.

Hehehe. A departure from handing them money 🤑


This is Trump's fix. You are the sl0w.3st, most uninformed Trump supporter on here I swear.

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Will he claim not to know this?

GloriousGbola:
no abrahmic religion was against slavery.
no abrahmic religion was pro democracy
all abrahmic religions managed to align with despotic leaders

democracy is a concept that was introduced by idolators in greece. why would any true christian adopt any of the lifestyles choices of flagrant unbelievers ?

there are enough genocidal exhortations in all the holy books and far right maga for all their anti islam rhetoric is chomping a the bit to bring the same to America.

the original immigrants to america were documented as being religiously problematic at home - and they got to america , away from home control and we got the salem witch trials with people being hanged and pressed.

revisionism is also not going to erase the spanish inquisition or the divine right of kings, fully endorsed by the church.

this is why education is so important and why the right is doing their best to destroy public education and erase museums

that way the ignorance we see proudly on display here every day will become the standard and people will only now the whitewashed history they are told. that is why we are having ridiculous arguments about how white slavery was somehow more humane than slavery practiced by arabs or africans. enough time and we will see the white mans burden being rolled out as a homily

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Too well sad. Bless you.

basilico:
Christendom didn't have slave markets. Imperialism in the Americas is when they started buying slaves from mostly Arabs slave traders.
If you look at Islam , it's spread is anchored in capturing slaves especially women and girls who are a gift to the fighters. Allah's messenger used to take 10% of captured loot including women slaves, the choicest in the particular case of the Jew Saffiya whose husband Kinana he ordered murdered after torturing him to reveal where he had hidden the wealth of the Jewish people he was entrusted with.( He placed live coals on his chest as part of the torture).
So Islam at it's core has sanctioned capture of slaves who are also sold off with numerous buyers available.

You saw that with ISIS and also with Hamas within the last decade. ISIS established a slave market in Raqqa where esp Yazidis girls and women were bought and sold off.
In the Europe spread of Islam millions of Europeans especially women were captured ,enslaved and sold off.

Calling the imperialists the worst violators while leaving out the Arabs is being insincere by all means.

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The founder was a terrible fella regrettably.