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benalvino3:
What do I do with your trust, you are a leftist.
Non of your list says he is a racist, they are just discussion of sensitive topics for people like you. You have been far more a racist than him.

Saying white people are more tolerant to people disrespectful their culture and country triggers you.

I look at Charlie I see someone open for discussion, I look at you, I see a racist trying to dictate how what people should believe

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And I look at you, I see a HN......

benalvino3:
By calling people uncle Tom you are trying to shame them into silence. If Trump calls you a moon key you will cry but you are behaving like one.

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You cant be trusted. I gave you a long list of raycist statements of Kirk and you waved them all away as nothing.

basilico:
Muslims believe the Quran is right and it's commands are eternal

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This is a very sound and potent point which budaatum would do well to take note of.

budaatum:
Started primary school at 6. Pre-primary was my education at home and nursery and nanny prior to then.

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Understood. Because I was rather worried at your statement.

It may indeed happen that animals may talk one day but they definitely wouldn't be Tom and Jerry. As for the achievement of dogs with human hands, I think they might need to evolve or have scientists create human brains for them too to manipulate objects like humans do.

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It neednt be like humans do. I am not talking about them handling a smart-phone.

(Do know that I can argue that animals do talk today to each other, just not in language commonly understood by humans. But I might have to define 'talk' as communicate to get that argument past you.)

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There is an insult here, just so you know it doesnt miss me, but I dont mind.

And I agree, animals already talk, I just meant talk actual human talk. And I am not referring to parrots.

Animals actually have robust languages already. Whales and Dolphins are key examples.

ono:
Good. Now watch how buda will stay away from you.

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Nah, he or she has interacted with me for a long time and is not like that.

ono:
Bro, it is not. More than 70 million people voted for Trump. He’s not a “nice person” I get. But he has what it takes to get the job done. We don’t want weaklings, atheists, lgbtq annd multicultural leaning and misguided people who are pliable running the affairs of the world’s most powerful country and who wields a lot of influence on the world’s affairs.

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Is Trump really getting the job done? Look at the mess he has made of foreign policy, look at the mess he made of ICE, look at the mess he made with the tariffs nonsense. Overall consider the fact that he is a divisive figure for America and evokes a lot of hatred among the different races in the USA.

ono:
At least you believe there is a God.

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I think it is not just a intuitively derived thing but is also logically and philosophically sound.

Mind you, one does not claim to know the nature of such a God, beyond that it must be a self-existent eternal element.

ono:
DeepSight, I know and she knows too. I have engaged her long enough to know. That she didn’t indicate her sex against her profile could not hide who she is. You too will discover soon.

Bad influence, yes. Like I stated in an earlier post, you’re much less full of yourself and probably are wiling to submit to the acknowledge of the presence of a higher being and His influence on the affairs of men. She’s your complete opposite.

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I believe that God exists, I also however believe that IT is unknowable.

budaatum:
DeepSight, I'm laughing much at the below, lol.

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Why? I hope you are not laughing at the acknowledgement of my well established humility.

budaatum:
I learnt about Roman, Greek and Egyptian gods pre-primary school

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At what age did you start primary school?

About animals talking, I believe it may happen one day. For some animals intelligent enough, all it takes is an adjustment to their vocal chords which I am sure science will soon make possible. I cant stop thinking what dogs would achieve if they had hands that could manipulate objects they we we can.

ono:
buda is a woman. I’m referring to her.

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How do you know?
And how is he/she a bad influence?

cococandy:
This!!

There’s active dissonance required in order to practice ANY religion and I say this as a born Christian who still practices Christianity (for my own personal reasons).

But it requires some self awareness to even admit it.
There’s no way you’re reading parts of the Bible that you can clearly see makes for serious WTF moments, rationalize it and then tell yourself you are not being dissonant. Please 🙄🙄

Same with Islam and all the other religions.

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Bless you. Thank you. This counts a lot coming from you m'lady.

ono:
8 million out of almost 300 million population ? Madam do the arithmetic nau. Haba.

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You do the arithmetic. 8 million is a significant number and certainly a number to worry about when you think carefully through the demographics of the actual voting population vis-à-vis what the figure of eight million represents in active dissenters willing to come out to march on the streets.

ono:
Bad influence.

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Who me? Or him?

Nwaokunkpara:
I wish this blatant old lying orange haired man will be impeached amidst the whole chaos he had plunged the world into his

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Amen!

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budaatum:
This is very gracious of you.

Most religious people have evolved from literal readings of their religious books, is what I've found, and even need a form of dissonance from some of it to remain religious or the majority would have thrown the books out with their dirty water.

I'd be calling for the death of even their imaginary gods myself if they hadn't evolved, and I wish they'd evolve much quicker where the word "believe" is concerned.

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I went to the link you shared. Were you a Christian then?

budaatum:
No one said it was not written. My argument is that hardly any read it as justification to, and your "some" below is an illiterate few described by TV01 as "a man who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even", which exists regardless of what religious book is read


What I've presented all along is now a "different question"? I'm amused.

Regardless, "some" Muslims find their justification for being bokoharam and Isis in the Quran too, like some are justifying bombing Iran with their Bibles, but I feel you'd accept such are a few "some", and the majority don't.


I definitely can't say same about you, I admit, since you are consistent in your view on both books.

My view is that any one who reads either book and learns what you claim "some" learn must be a person "who is any combination of immature, neurotic, lacking n self control, empathy or a real love for his wife. Just stressed, angry or high even", and thankfully will be a criminal in most societies if they do what the books have written in them.

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I can live with this.

Four months after Trump's threats and promises, how market for those who were shouting America will sort this issue?

budaatum:
Or claiming the Quran teaches wife beating,

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But its written in black and white. Whats your problem? Are you saying its not written in the Quran?

. . and or Muslims learn to beat their wife, because it is written in the Quran that they should.

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This is a different question and you know it. Nonetheless, yes, some Muslims find their justification for doing so in the Quran, Hadiths and general Islamic teachings.

And no, I do not expect you to accept that your argument for wife beating in the Quran and the witch killing etc in the Bible (you are at least consistent in that), is the same as that which TV01 is now defending the Bible for but had accused the Quran of.

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He is evidently biased to the extent that he can call a color two different things depending on the page he saw it on.

Sounded like a fart.

Lovelink1991:
With today kind of men it is difficult to get a good man. A lot of them just want to take advantage of her by sleeping with her with the promise that I wants to marry you. There are no good men

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The bold is just logically impossible and you know it.
And if you believe such a thing, you should equally believe there are no good women.

Excellent93:
Believe this lady at your own peril coming to vomit trash after they have frustrated other people's marriage ...are you saying no men came at your 20s or your doing natural selection

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Lol @ natural selection!

budaatum:
It is, isn't it?

Like claiming some read "beat your wife" in a 7th century written book and not expecting most to have evolved not to.

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No one claimed this. If you thought so, you were debating yourself.

triplechoice:
No. It is not.

The realisation that one has free will hasten ones spiritual growth.

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Really? How deeply have you reflected on this question.

Let me try you.

For starters. Do you agree that your genes play a role in your life choices and the way you think?

Hohenheim:
Stay off that ketamine

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While I cannot account for another person's experiences in such matters (no one can), I will confidently say that it is wrong to presume that people who speak about the astral, the ethereal, the spiritual worlds, or NDEs or OBEs must be on drugs.

Because such places and such things are real.

budaatum:
In my own opinion, you are guilty of doing with regard to Islam what you accuse Deepsight of doing with Christianity, "selecting decontextualised readings for their own selfish and wicked purposes".

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At the minimum it is clear that he is deploying a double standard.

TV01:
Why are you blowing up my mentions - all weekend. Persistence however often demands a response . To make the point and for any reading.

Which is exactly what I have done in my posts on The Christian message and slavery.

The Gospel is clear, nutshellingly so . Love God......love your neighbour...all the law is fulfilled in love...God is love...Jesus fulfilled the law...love does no harm to your neighbour...All searchable in the NKJV of the Bible.

The Christian texts do not teach, accept or endorse slavery. Yes, some who claimed Christianity claimed it did, probably like Deepsight is doing, selected, decontextualised readings for their own selfish and wicked purposes.

The islamic texts are clear, chattel and s3cs slavery are fine, well earned booty. The fact that some moose.slims openly or codedly reject slavery does not change that. The fact that some Christians practice polygamy or preach tithing does not mean the Gospel does.

Christianity because of the love, no harm directives, progressively eliminated slavery, "child marriage", cousin marriage, concubinage, polygamy, child labour, witch-hunts, wife-burnings, twin killings and a host of other societal pathologies. Not only that, it introduced real welfare reforms around jurisprudence, individual need, sanitation and health. It embedded charitable giving as a social norm.

No other faith, ideology or worldview has managed to deal with the pathologies, let alone introduce the welfare and charitable imperatives.,
To say Christianity endorses slavery is quite simply ignorant and\or malicious.

Per my last post, I cant speak for others. The Christian message is unchanged. The practices of people who claim to be Christians is another matter and down to them, as your motivation in interpreting is down to you.


TV

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It beats me how you can read the verses presented and still claim that the Bible does not endorse slavery. The OT is explicit enough, specifically talking about the seizing of women as war booty for example. And the Old Testament is scripture.

But it has also been pointed out to you how the NT urges Christians to accept their bondage in their spirits. It specifically says that they should not be people pleasers about it, that they should be sincere about it, not merely pretending to accept it. This is as insidious and evil as it gets, telling people to embrace bondage from their heart of hearts and capping it with saying they should do so as they would to Christ with fear and trembling.

These are explicit and no sincere or honest discussant can claim otherwise. You accuse me of being neither but it emerges that it is you who is duplicitous in this matter.

It is absolutely ridiculous for anyone to claim that there hasn't been evolution when looking at all this.

Of course you never said anything about the verse "suffer not a witch to live" on the basis of which hundreds of thousands of women were killed as witches relatively recently in historical terms.

Keep deluding yourself.

This is an insult to the souls of those soldiers and to God.

Ananais comes to mind.

triplechoice:
You have misunderstood both my position and the conversation and that is because you didn't read from the beginning of the thread

I did not bring Brostrom into this thread. Deepsight did. I was clarifying what Brostrom meant, not relying on him as my source.

I don't subscribe to simulation of reality. Simulation contradicts the truth about life: free will, without which we would not evolve as humans.

The only question I asked you was, What are they simulating? And how do you know?

You answer was word salad and vague references. dressed as depth

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Freewill is likely an illusion.

amaridigital:
Kim has joined the war and his Army will land in the middle east this week.
Iran may not have ballistic missiles that could reach the US but Kim the Rocket man does. He also have several nuclear weapons and he's crazy enough to use them when he needs to.
Russia also warned the US that Iran possessed missiles that could reach the Continental US.
Trump really fu*cked up going into war alone. The EU might join the war out of pity once North Korea engage Israel in direct fire for fire.
This is the war biblical scholars always believe could lead to the last world war but to many people, it seems very minor. Europe is not supporting Trump neither is South America. How arrogant can one be? Americans will forever regret voting for a boxing promoter as president. He's worse than the comedian of Ukraine.

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Has Kim really joined. Haven't seen any such news.

Beautifulday:
These guys priorities are weird. Them they slaughter your leaders and all you celebrate is destroying equipment

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If you don't understand the strategic importance of a radar plane like that then better keep away from this subject

IjeBos:
Just like the "MAGA Christians", there are a lot closeted Nigerians who drape themselves in faux Christianity because of that.
As if that will act as their shield from people suspecting them.
And because of that the 1st, 2nd and 3rd thing on their mind is fantasizing about other men and fantasizing other men are gay.

I believe people assume others are doing what they themselves can see themselves doing.
Bemeruca sees two men in a picture, he thinks their gay.. wonder why...
Ono seems to get excited believing I'm gay... wonder why

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Patently ridiculous and I dare say suspicious.