budaatum: The plan is to consume one's most valuable asset. Time. It's what the masters they don't know they have send them out to do. For while one's time is being consumed by these, one is not focused on their masters avarice and destruction.
Good they are here though. The chaff that wheat separates from.
+ Its too easy to see through. People dont care though, especially as its something that could take millenia, and not many would bother about what happens after their lifetime.
basilico: Acquisition of knowledge demands a curious mind that looks at both sides of a coin. Which is what I've done on this climate change topic. I usually invite others to pore over what the sceptics say, and it's my determination that the proponents are running a huge scam. The bigger the lie the more believable it is, so goes a common saying. Noone knows that adage better than yahoo boys.
+ I will pass. I have nothing to add to the subject.
Except to say I firmly withdraw any apologies I mentioned which may be misconstrued by anyone.
basilico: Your position is from climate religion proponents doing their interviews. Mine is gleamed from interviews with the proponents being grilled by sceptics. For instance this Sierra Club ( which woke DEI has cut of over 50% of funds) Chair could only blabber when challenged. It was about anthropogenic global warming.
Professor Mann was challenged to produce data on his hockey stick theory by Steve McIntyre He refused . Instead Mann sued him for defamation , the lawsuit was thrown out. Check climateaudit.org for more details.
Climate change proponent only speak to friendly media , they don't have data to explain why there there was a 20 year cooling period upto 2010 or so when their computer models were spelling doom.
When I say it's control , I mean just that. It's about wrenching control of energy from Big oiil and micromanaging the serfs. Who in his right senses bans nuclear energy and coal , shutting down industries who can't compete with India and China . Countries that roll out a coal plant every week. Computer models will give you junk if you feed them junk.
I'll write more later . I have written a lot bout it here before. When it comes to 99% consensus, they don't tell us that all these scientists are funded by climate change donors. You can go through this study too
TV01: I'm not buying it. Please back up your assertions with clear cut data - both yourself and budaatum are welcome to do so. Don't attempt to sell an ideological position as truth. Not to say you are not free to take any position you choose.
Against my better judgement - perhaps to afford you due regard - I watched the video. It was effectively a puff-piece. Or at best a retrospective of SDA life and career. Particularly at the BBC and being at the forefront of TV programming\production. Funny how at 18 minutes it narrates a scandal caused by him splicing footage in order to craft a narrative . At 24 minutes he finally gets on to his CC narrative. No facts, no data, just assertions. Over time SDA has helped drive a catastrophizers wet dream around CC. Sorry nothing convincing. There was also the now, obligatory dig at Trump and lot's of emoting by a cast of thousands.
SDA is an ideologue. At best he has an activist and a campaigner with an opinion. And, I don’t have to share it. Again, you are free to.
Now, do you have anything to demonstrate an open and shut, 100% waterproof tight, settled science and scientific consensus case for climate change catastrophising .
TV
ps - your imagined implied insults are just that. I can be harsh, but I am always fair. Your invective on this thread and in many discussing Israel\Gaza, have been unmitigatedly spiteful. But don't take it to heart, I think quite fondly of most here. Even RodgersAkpafu aka Ekemefune, who is little more than a kashmiri-loving ideolobot
ono: Do you even know what causes a tsunami? The reasoning in this example, using a natural disaster to describe how the rich protect themselves from the poor is moot because natural disasters typically affect both the rich and poor. The Japan Fukushima episode comes to mind - fast.
+ Unfortunately you didn't understand that I said clearly that climate change is coming for us all.
Please I would like to be out of this discussion.
Great apologies to basillico and TV01 that I even dared say anything at all.
Please present data\evidence that a reduction of emissions by 50% (and I working on the basis that by "they", you mean more fully industrialised, i.e. western nations) will eliminate the negative effects of climate change - if any! I don't give a rats arse about the ideological positioning, show the data.
Point in question - no one knows with 100% certainty. What you have\are is committed to a position. There is an absence of critical thought. If the ideological position was the opposite, you would argue accordingly. Please present the evidence
Again per the bolded . That is a smear. Just because not every black-skinned person subscribes to the notion that the main or major things that have hindered black development are slavery, colonialism (by white people) and even misfortunate such as a being unfortunately placed on the meridian lines , doesn't make them "coons", or give you the right to smear them.
One can consider and arrive at the conclusion that there are reasons other than white intervention that has led to limited development in black communities\countries. And one can also take a position that black people are majorly responsible for their own backwardness - without recourse to whatever white people say.
I know exactly what you are for - at least in that instance.
Please, don't thank me. Just do better. Some of the balderdash I have to read when I am chanced to come up in here. Sheesh!
TV
You know, I respect you alot.
For that reason and ONLY that reason, I do not wish to argue this point further.
I also thank you for your implied insults.
I do hope you know I have never said black people are not responsible as well.
I will like to end my interaction with you on this issue by simply asking you to watch Richard Attenborough on Climate Change.
Again, thanks for the insults, I am mature enough to deal with them.
budaatum: 1. Yes, the climate is changing for the worse and at a faster rate than ever before.
2. Human - anthropogenic - activity is a significant contributor to climate change due to the fact that humans tend to impact the environments with their activities and this warms up the climate.
3. Stop dirtying!
4. At a huge cost. You humans have been polluting the earth ever since your first existence so you have a lot of arrears to make up with interest. But if that's too much, pay what you are charged now.
5. Air. The oxygen you breath. Remember water was once free. A time will come when humans will have to ration breathing because of pay and breath. We will fix meter to your mouth and nose and heart to bill and tax you.
TV01: This is not a particularly helpful statement. It's akin to saying he believes "changing weather" is not a thing.
Yes, the climate changes, nobody disputes that. The questions and debates are around,
1. is the climate changing for the worse (especially long-term and relative to historical patterns) 2. is the climate changing for the worse due to human - anthropogenic - activity 3 if so, what should or, can be done about it 4. and at what cost and to what effect
The science is not settled - as ever. There are lots of well qualified people who demur. And carbon which is fingered as the main culprit, is actually a greening gas, as well as the essence of all life forms.
Your statement - which I have seen evident in much of the discourse here - is , is designed to smear and belittle and typically weakens whatever position your are arguing for.
It was quite painful to read in what I'll describe as the "anti-coonery" discussion. In fact, you and your co-travellers managed to make coonery sound aspirational, such was the weakness of your arguments.
TV
+ Second point. I do hope you understand that the reason right wingers claim climate change is not real is because they believe it will not affect rich countries.
If a tsunami comes from the ocean, most of them have ways to protect themselves. And that's exactly why they think it will affect poor countries more, but that's simply not true.
I will use an analogy.
Melinda Gates said she can't believe what will happen in Africa over COVID. She expected dead bodies to be all over the streets. She really didn't know that COVID was always going to affect white people more for many reasons.
As such, by this analogy I hope you understand what I am saying. Making the assumption that poor countries will suffer more from climate change is simply simplistic. The truth is far more nuanced.
Also I don't agree with what you say about the times of the Earths renewal. Many ancient civilizations unknown to this current one have been destroyed by the effects of weather, asteroids, comets, and advanced technology such as nuclear weapons. It's high time this civilization should be careful with climate because the Earth has a way of ridding itself of poison.
A word is enough for the wise.
Work on Climate Change has to start from those who affect it most. Namely the most industrialised countries.
TV01: This is not a particularly helpful statement. It's akin to saying he believes "changing weather" is not a thing.
Yes, the climate changes, nobody disputes that. The questions and debates are around,
1. is the climate changing for the worse (especially long-term and relative to historical patterns) 2. is the climate changing for the worse due to human - anthropogenic - activity 3 if so, what should or, can be done about it 4. and at what cost and to what effect
The science is not settled - as ever. There are lots of well qualified people who demur. And carbon which is fingered as the main culprit, is actually a greening gas, as well as the essence of all life forms.
Your statement - which I have seen evident in much of the discourse here - is , is designed to smear and belittle and typically weakens whatever position your are arguing for.
It was quite painful to read in what I'll describe as the "anti-coonery" discussion. In fact, you and your co-travellers managed to make coonery sound aspirational, such was the weakness of your arguments.
TV
+ Wrong on 2 Counts.
1. The interest of the right wing is simply to sustain industrialization at all costs. If they reduce their emissions by say fifty percent, this discussion is over. Meanwhile they would want poorer countries to bear the burden of reducing further, which at the end of the day will mean they cannot produce and equalise with advanced economies.
Please try not to gaslight me over what I know with 100 percent certainty.
2. I don't know how you mean I and my co travellers managed to make coonery aspirational. You must have mistaken me for someone else, because my entire argument it is the EXACT OPPOSITE. Coonery is clownish. Anyone who has no self respect and simply believes anything a white man says is simply ridiculous.
PS: Pls try to read carefully before accusing anyone of exactly what they are against.
IMAliyu2: Your attempts to inform someone like him is in vain.
We've had this exact same discussion in the past.
Notice how his argument against CC is just a quote from some rich guy, and has nothing to do with statements from published climate researchers, or Data from climate studies and observations? Even the bill gates quote acknowledges the factuality and threat of climate change, he just doesn't think it will affect him, doesn't view it as an existential threat.
Fortunately for all of us, this view is wrong. Although climate change will have serious consequences—particularly for people in the poorest countries—it will not lead to humanity’s demise. People will be able to live and thrive in most places on Earth for the foreseeable future. Emissions projections have gone down, and with the right policies and investments, innovation will allow us to drive emissions down much further.
Unfortunately, the doomsday outlook is causing much of the climate community to focus too much on near-term emissions goals, and it’s diverting resources from the most effective things we should be doing to improve life in a warming world.
It's a scare tactic. The underlying theme has been to wrench control of energy from Big Oil. You heard it here
+ Why would you think it's a scare tactic. The truth is that Western Nations as well as China have abused the atmosphere for far too long.
They do not want poor countries to industrialise.
Poor countries do not even emit up to ten percent of carbon emissions.
The real design is by the right wing to make it look false because they want to remain permanently corrupt and greedy above all else.
There is a very good Documentary done by Sir David Attenborough which shows how real climate change is. It is an existential threat and it is coming for all of us.
Only people like you will always defend whatever your master says.
I really don't think you understand what you are saying. Even just trying to underestimate the threat of Climate Change.
If at all you have data, try watch this documentary.
basilico: When I keep telling you climate change is all about control , you say it's right wing propaganda. Thank climate change for this proposal For UK EV owners. 3 p today , one £ later?
Only id/........ oi/ . . . . . ts like you would think Climate Change is not real.
Kukutente23: Thank you for your links I have read them and my arguments are valid. Natural law as you call it is a theory as attestd by both links. In science, a theory must be proven before it can be accepted as law. What was established from both links is that it is an ongoing debate older than modern civilisation. Some accept the existence of the divine rights while others contend its universality and applicability just as I have done. But more importantly, one of the cardinal concept is the right to self-preservation which is where the right to life is derived from. In effect, it is erroneous to interpret right to life as prohibition of murder as you initially posited in this discourse. Rather, it is the right to keep oneself alive and away from harm. Hobbes was a foremost thinker in this regard. The 19th century thinkers however disagreed with the force of morality in natural law theories. So you see, it is still a subject of debate and not a universal law as you posited.
+. Good. You are getting better. Do you at least accept that there is natural law before positive law?
Brenbentondiaz: Cowardly, right? As against South Africa that sent their displeasure wrapped up in a letter bomb and delivered to the White House, I presume?
+ South Africa filed a legal case at the ICJ.
South Africa stood up.
Nigeria did not.
Merely saying what everyone else was saying was saying nothing in particular.
Do you want the text of Shettima's speech at the UN? I can send it to you. He only mentioned Gaza once and in passing. The word "Israel" was not even said once.
Image123: What a joke. It's a catch 22 situation because they don't want or care for any security. When the government goes hard, there'll be complaints of human rights violations, slaughter, harshness of army on innocents, witch hunt, threats of ICJ, etc. It's a chess move for control. Nigeria will win, but i know you, you will change goal post also.
+ Actually I think you are right on this. Don't be surprised. I am objective.
GracieX3: It is a case of ignorance and lack of exposure. I didn't know what racism truly was until I travelled out to Europe and America. I knew the definition of racism but didn't have a clear understanding until I witnessed it clearly.
Furthermore, a lack of political education too causes such ignorance. I grew up watching CNN and reading the economist from my dad. The average Nigerian can't tell liberal politics from conservative politics
Along with Nat Geo, the Economist was one of my favorites/.
My sister, it is a pity the way our people think. You point out the ignorance, yes, but many who should know better on account of their exposure still think the same way, sadly.
Image123: It's so disappointing, so shame the level of unpatriotism and ignorance is nauseous and tiring. This is just the start and the exact position the West wanted Nigeria. Begging and making deals. How sore losers played us into this is sad. E be like make person just comot mouth for naija matter. So many zs
You can just imagine why now is the most convenient time for these guys since weve had insecurity challenges. When we're stopping to need imported petrol and not needing to go begging cap in hands.
+ Coming from one of the most unpatriotic Nigerians ever.
Guys, NEVER, I mean, NEVER equate ixsxlxm with Ishmael. An ideology that was given birth to more than 5000 years after the birth of Ishmael is not Ishmael. They are not an Abrahamic religy. They will never be. The more we relate them to Abraham (Judaism and Christianity), the more they become emboldened to cause chaos. We must see them for who they are. They came from the cave, and they will return to the cave.
GracieX3: As usual, Ishilove and Joseph1832 are on the wrong side of international politics.
Charlie Kirk was a racist. There are Christian nationalists FYI.
Charlie Kirk's comments about black pilots can never be defended in any context. There is nothing like an unqualified pilot in the USA. All pilots in the USA must have minimum flying hours.
Charlie Kirk also blasted MLK.
Charlie Kirk defended Gun rights by minimizing gun deaths to a statistic. He didn't see himself becoming part of the statistics.
+ GBAM.
Thank you very much.
I find the take of many Nigerians on this matter sad and disappointing. The way many jump to defend the racists who despise them is just lamentable.
Jakumo: Oya Ogawa Donald Trump, please help us to neutralize all those Ibadan landlords that think they can charge astronomical monthly rent on their properties simply because they called Mufutau to install fancy POP ceilings where families of rats usually live.
Mr. Yemi of Ibadan has now nominated all of the slum landlords in Ibadan to be added to the target list of Donald Trump's drones. It remains for the rest of us innocent observers to see how Papa God will now punish those landlords by first destroying all their POP ceilings and then capturing the landlords who can then be shipped to Guantanamo Bay where they can serve their life sentences.
+ Along with the rats housed by the handiwork of Mufutau . . . .
Jakumo: This is one of the most eloquent, persuasive and timely written submissions I have ever encountered online. I have no idea whether the OP wrote this tour-de-force of logical argumentation, but whoever wrote the words quoted above is a seasoned master of deductive reasoning.
Terrorist and kidnapper camps dotting the forests, scrubland and farmlands of Nigeria will be very easy to spot with drones, and even easier to blow up into smithereens using drone armaments. This urgent military initiative should commence in Nigeria without further ado.
There is a new sheriff in town. He walks softly but he packs big stick. His name is Uncle Sam and he is about ready to open up a fresh can of whup-ass that will be shared equally among all Nigeria's terror and kidnapping enclaves. Uncle Sam is coming to a town near YOU !
+ As much as I despise the terrorism in Nigeria and in spite of my absolute disgust with this present government particularly, any student of history and current affairs must be very wary of American or indeed any Western Imperialist initiative to resolve this issue, especially uninvited.
Very very wary.
Anyone who is not so wary can only be ignorant of history.
Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq all stand as examples within recent living memory. Nowhere has the intervention of these powers proved profitable: it has always resulted in greater human, economic and political disaster. Always.
This of course cannot be unconnected with their dark motives in the first place. No one should be naive enough to think that these racists care a hoot about "Christians in Nigeria."
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. That is a smear. Just because not every black-skinned person subscribes to the notion that the main or major things that have hindered black development are slavery, colonialism (by white people) and even misfortunate such as a being unfortunately placed on the meridian lines 
