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Gabrielshow24:
Let me guess, your divine consciousness of a god impregnates female komodos without male input but you cross the line when such an attribute is applied on a lady🤨?

Anyways, the point is that the Son of God used an holy vessel. Every other thing is self explanatory.

Different creatures have different methods of reproduction. The form of reproduction whereby a ghost sleeps with a woman is unknown to homo sapiens.

sonmvayina:
Hahahahaha, that was so funny, I actually forgot to laugh. What is the wisdom in believing a woman got pregnant without the input of a man? ,

Madness, isnt it? And yet those who believe such fairytales will be carrying shoulder and feeling smart!

sonmvayina:
They don't want to accept the fact that they are wasting their lives believing a lie.

So within them, they just believe rather than doing a research to know for sure.

The most annoying aspect is they will then be pompous in their ignorance and try to gaslight you as being the one not researching, whereas they simply accept everything they were told hook line and sinker.

sonmvayina:
Josephus said nothing about the Jesus in the Bible. There are about 3 jesuses in his work, but none match the one in the Bible.

Everybody knows the so called TF is an extrapolation. Probably by Eusebius, he was the first to quote from it.

Please, mention one person that actually saw him. You can't tell me the "son of God" made an entrance and nobody noticed it. There must be somebody who actually saw him and wrote something down in the first person. Not a third person narratives like the gospel......
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Please tell me.

The Messiah in Jewish theology is somebody who is anointed to the service of God, like a king or Priest. God can't be anointed to his own service. Does it make any sense. And messiah's are usually human, not divine in anyway. The Messiah God promised is coming to usher in an era of peace, no more oppression of any kind. No more wars. Isaiah actually says " Men will hammer their swords into ploghshares and learn of war no more....it has not happened....is it not better to continue to wait and hope rather than worship a pagan man- god?

I need proof that he existed. I will wait.

Are you scared of doing a research?

Very well said..

And to add to this, one wonders why -

1. The world and mankind remain the same after the coming and going of Jesus as you said, but particularly that which a man has to do - namely strive towards love and good - remains the same. Therefore what exactly did this Jesus then accomplish if as they say, it was his death that redeemed....

2. Crucially, this Jesus said that his second coming would happen within the lifetime of some alive at the time he spoke.

2000 years later, radio silence.

Gabrielshow24:
" that attested to Jesus"—Wrote about him. You have google, so query 🤨.

No thanks. If you can't list them, I can't find them.

Gabrielshow24:
Incredulous. We have been through this in several threads in times past. You have denied Josephus and every other historian that attested to Jesus, believing it to be 'ocum, you can as well take it a step further and disbelieve all historians because of your flimsy excuses.

Aside from Josephus what do you mean "every other historian". . . ?

List them.

Gabrielshow24:
Need I remind you that the universal set contains X and X' —Set X and its complement.

So what's the big deal?

CanadaOrBust - You see am?

Gabrielshow24:
If any of you is wise enough let him take it up and disprove it. I guess Deepsight is very shy —what a gentleman, a mathematical genius in plain sight!

My entire thesis is to show using the concept of set theory the reconciliation of two seemingly contradictory sets. It's something that accounts for whatever rebuttal you can ever cook up🙃—at least mathematically.

I guess that makes two questions the great Deepsight couldn't disprove. Anyways, let me know y'all🧐.

Anyone who begins to chase a lunatic will equally be considered a lunatic.

CanadaOrBust:
"They are mathematically valid and reconcile seemingly contradictory sets"
Gives you a good laugh😅🤣

As in, ehn!

CanadaOrBust:
This is about the most bizarre convos I'm having.
Someone is trying to convince me that white is black and at same time saying am the one embarrassing myself🤣

Welcome on board! ! ! !

CanadaOrBust:
Na wa. It is almost unbelievable. He must think we're fools 😅

The thing is like watching an absurd movie.

Gabrielshow24:
The wisdom of an elder—appealing to another child. Truly remarkable wisdom. 😂

Every question you raised, in fact, underscores the necessity of the divine nature being included within Him. 😅

Perhaps you skipped that part in logic? I thought you were well-versed in math. 😂

Please, do entertain us by disproving it. Wonders shall never cease!

Anyways until then😮‍💨. Bye-bye 👋

CanadaorBust. Here is what you are going to face if you have the energy for running around in circles with a patient from an asylum.

FreeIgboho:
But you have to start with basic FACT that you know almost nothing and that you don't know the true nature of the reality you're in!
See my response to AntiChristian on the first page of this thread

You too start with the same fact.

FreeIgboho:
These things are called MYSTERIES for a reason.
Study my screenshot below carefully then come ask me any quesyion questions you wish

Nothing new there. It states what most Christians believe.

I am not a Christian. And beliefs like this are part of the reason.

Kukutente23:
How many students have benefitted from student loans compared to the total number of applicants?
I hope you know the previously brandished figure was debunked when ICPC looked into it and the total figure presently is less than 100k

Aside from the fact that with the massive increase in fees, the student loan scheme really amounted to nothing but taking with one hand and taking again via a loan with another hand.

CanadaOrBust:
Thanks for the compliment, but you just said exactly nothing. In simple English, how can one person be perfect and imperfect at same time?

My dear brother, please have a look at exactly what I said to that comic here -

DeepSight:
Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Fear!

You know the truth! You have already seen ahead! Impossible questions to answer!

The so called taking of flesh cannot answer anything. It would not cease to make him THE CREATOR, eternal, self existent, perfect, incorruptible, and born by the Holy Ghost - none of which NO MAN can ever be.

For the record (not for you, for future readers), man cannot be -

Both eternal and not eternal.

Both created and uncreated.

Both self existent and not self existent.

Both perfect and imperfect.

Both corrupt and incorrupt.

Both capable of sin and incapable of sin.

And both natural born and born by the Holy Spirit.

You know these are inescapable contradictions and thus Jesus can never be full man and fully God.

OFF with you now!

Next time dont prance around with what you dont know.

He ignored and ran away.
So don't waste your energy.

CanadaOrBust:
Thanks for the compliment, but you just said exactly nothing. In simple English, how can one person be perfect and imperfect at same time?

I asked him this exact question along with several similar other questions. The chap simply ran away.

Be careful of him because at some point you may say Good morning and he will tell you that you have admitted it is evening.

He will then proceed to spend the next one month dancing about your admission that it is evening.

I am not exaggerating.

FreeIgboho:
A man who was in existence before creation?

That is another incongruous and impossible statement. Men are created. Ergo, no man could be in existence before creation.

FreeIgboho:
By the way I asked you a question you never answered:
If Jesus is not God what else can he be?

A man. An envoy of the Light.

FreeIgboho:
You are NOT interested in Salvation? Mark today's date as the day you said that.
Have you ever considered that NO ONE gains anything by telling you the only way to Salvation is Jesus?
Or just consider the Spirit, Jesus. What a beautiful Spirit indeed. Say what teachings of his you disagree with

The fate of my soul is none of your concern.

Gabrielshow24:
You claimed you were heading into 'infinites,' yet you couldn’t even grasp basic set theory. 😅 Maybe it's time to go back to school.

Let me remind you: just as you failed to disprove the set of choices that are yours, you’ve inadvertently affirmed the Godship of Jesus. 😅 That’s your logic, not mine—your questions, not mine. I didn’t ask you to raise them; you chose to. 😂

So until then, take responsibility for your own reasoning. And when you're truly ready to dive into 'infinites,' let me know. Keep consoling yourself if you must—your time will come. Sixteen years on the board, still stuck in the mud. 👌

What part of "I am not interested" dont you understand? ? ? ?

Gabrielshow24:
Almost, dear. Just a little more effort. Relate that analogy to Jesus! 🤨

You have unwittingly admitted the need for his divine nature. Nothing more, nothing less. If your logic can't see that then no one can help you!

I am not interested. I will only pursue discussions with either of you when I see a clear willingness to abandon absurdites and the habit of compulsive illogic - and in your case - lies. Other than that, enjoy yourself.

FreeIgboho:
Enjoy what?
My good brother this is NOT just some academic discussion.
Don't throw away free Salvation because you're trying to reason something that is waaay beyond your comprehension.
You don't know what this is. It could very well be a dream or some sort of a hoax. Someone who knows was foretold and has come and told you how to be saved. What do you think Jesus or anyone else gains by telling you Christ is the only way to salvation?

I am not interested. I will only pursue discussions with either of you when I see a clear willingness to abandon absurdites and the habit of compulsive illogic. Other than that, enjoy yourself. And dont worry about my soul, it is not yours.

Gabrielshow24:
You are almost there, just a slight use of grey matter and you will understand.

Joker. Enjoy yourself. No one has the time for the meaningless incongruities you throw up as logic. For you, a person will say "a square circle does not exist" and you will spend the next four weeks braying that by that statement, he admitted that square circles exist.

You people are insufferable and the toll taken upon you by colonialism is unspeakable.

FreeIgboho:
He is FULLY man, and FULLY God

Enjoy.

Gabrielshow24:
We have been through this before, this questions are the exact reason the hypostatis is needed. You are invariably confirming his divine nature! 😅

What a way to go!

What a waste of time. Enjoy.

FreeIgboho:
Come on you know what he means. Doesn't mean we perform miracles like him. It means he feels just like us, is fully man like us

Men are not born of virgins, neither did they create the universe, they are created beings.

Gabrielshow24:
Patrick is looking more dazzling you are certainly a star!

Well, that's why he is Fully man👀 and Fully God and not some hybrid. He is no different to us for He spoke; He ate, He drank, He hungered, He thirsted, He went to the rest room👀 etc.

So yes, He had characteristics of both! —Divine and temporal! Also, He has been historically proven to have existed!

@ The red bold -

1. Were you born of a virgin?

2. Do you transfigure?

3. Are you simultaenously God?

If you answer any of the above in the negative, then your statement in red bold above is categorically, emphatically, ineluctably and indubitably false.

Gabrielshow24:
That's why his omnipotence translate to such universal set. He can become what he intends, and he won't contradict himself.

Please translate the above to Nigerian Latin.

Gabrielshow24:
WIn a universal set of shapes, both circles and squares can coexist! —They don't contradict.

Co-existing is one thing. A square being a circle is an entirely different cup of tea.