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FreeIgboho:
Not a bad answer at all.
And how do you know what God can and cannot do?

Why dont you attempt this question yourself.
Because the truth is simple: you want to declare that God can be a man.
So, following your own question: how do you also know that?

fyneboi79:
make I hear word abeg! Person go kill himself like coward for another man house in protest of a dirty overused woman?

You don't know any of that.
And even if you did, it's not your place to curse his soul. It belongs to God.
May God have mercy on you.

fyneboi79:
Rest in which peace? May his spirit die a second death, he's a fool.

You curse the departed on the strength of an internet report. A man you never knew and a man who you don't know for certain committed suicide.

Jakumo:
Of all the comments I have read thus far about this incident, only a couple of people suggested the possibility that this might be a case of murder disguised as suicide.

It is not possible that the man was strangled to death, or knocked unconscious before being lifted up by unknown assailants who then hung him in a bid to disguise his death as suicide rather than homicide?

The case of billionaire Jeffery Epstein, who died in a New York jail by ALLEGED hanging suicide, has been debated by pathologists who noted that the injuries on his neck were consistent with strangulation, and not with hanging.

That don't look like no suicide to me.

sonmvayina:
GOD is the creator, he cant be part of creation. does not make sense. the creator and the creation are OF DIFFERENT MATERIALS.

he cant be part of Nigeria.

just like Africa cant be part of Nigeria.....


not possible

Simple!

Rather they will twist themselves into knots desperate to assert that their fellow man is their creator.

Gabrielshow24:
Nope, your assertions did! I am just recalling it to the feeble mind🤨. Once again, you can't change it dear. It's there for all to see. Hybrid 🤦🏾‍♂️

It's a categorization error on your part 😅.

I don't even believe that Jesus is anything divine. I see him as a man period.

So keep both your errors and your desperate lies to yourself.

Gabrielshow24:
From the mind that brought us all this, he is an hybrid 😅! Or rather put "Not man, Not God". 😂

Wisdom of the elders indeed.

For a Christian, I find it remarkable that you can repeatedly attempt to tell a lie. You know very well you made that statement "hybrid" and not I, and yet you persist. Do you think repeating a lie one million times will make it true?

FreeIgboho:
You have to first go and find out what "beget" means on that context

I am not going to play word games with you. Beget is beget. If you cannot resolve the clear contradiction between what you said and what the Bible says, forget it.

FreeIgboho:
What word would you use to describe a person who is God, has always been with God, but is a separate person?

Stop trying to force your own presumptions into scripture. Again, you are trying to run away. The contradiction is clear. Deal with it -

1. You say that God doesnt beget anything - YET:
2. The Bibles describes Jesus as the only begotten son of God.

Both cant be right. Who is right here - you or the Bible?

FreeIgboho:
This is so ridiculous. The important thing is that it was NOT created! It was always there with God!! You are befuddled by the word, "begotten", when you know full well [b]God doesn't "beget" anything[/b]

There we go. You are presuming and imposing your own views on scripture. Look at the red bold.

1. You say that God doesnt begt anything - YET:
2. The Bibles describes Jesus as the only begotten son of God.

Both cant be right. Who is right here - you or the Bible?

FreeIgboho:
Came from God before creation. Isn't that God? Use your head sometimes

Lol, look who is asking anyone to use their head. You?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Listen. The minute you use the bold - "Came from" - its over. It shows that he had a beginning. God has no beginning.

FreeIgboho:
I want to ask you a question:
Did Thomas have the Bible and AI before he called Jesus "My God".

Even disciples of Guru Maharaji and Olumba Olumba Obu say similar things.

How about when John wrote "And the Word was with God and the word was God."

He can write what he likes, but the truth is there is no one man who is the word of God. Neither is it possible to be with someone and be that person at the same time.

Or when Peter declared "“You are the Christ, the son of the living God.”

Yes, Son, not God.

Or John in Revelation, where Jesus is declared the "Alpha and Omega," signifying that He is the beginning and the end, the first and the last?

God has no beginning and no end.

Do you think you'll ever know better than them by reading 100th hand account of what they experienced 1st hand??

It doesnt matter what they wrote or thought. Even if they wrote "Jesus is God" one million times over, it would not make Jesus God. No man is God.

Aside from this, you ony look at verses that align with your notion that Jesus is God. I listed 20 solid verses that say the opposite and you pretend they are invisible. Anyway thats how all religious people treat their scripture. They always ignore what they dont like in it.

FreeIgboho:
2000+ years definitely matters.
If some Jewish carpenter with neither money nor conections tells you he is God the Son of God, and tells you how you'd know he's telling the truth is that his words will never pass away. It definitely matters that his words are strong as ever 2000+ years later!

It simply doesnt matter. Maybe you dont understand that there have been other indivdual figures with such a massive impact over millenia. Prophet Muhammad is one. The Buddha is another. And there are still others. Having all of that impact (with attendant prophecies/miracles or none) simply does not suffice to convert anyone into the creator of the universe. At best you can say thats a remarkable man with a remarkable impact on others/ history.

Boomark:
See your challenge here so understand that 2000+ year means nothing or 2000+ years of believing a lie. Do your best o so you won't be shamed with empty 2000 years portfolio.

GBAM!

FreeIgboho:
And I'm saying the inconsistency is from man's perspective. How can God begot a son without a wife?? Anything that was with God before creation has to be God - otherwise where did they come from??

It is said that such things came from God, simple.
And God is not a man that he needs a wife, is he?

FreeIgboho:
Have you ever read John 1:1? See it below

Oga, I have read it. There are many ways in which Christians (and scripture) define Christ. It will be disingenuous, when challenged on the rationality of one description, to run to another description. For heavens sake, he is also called Lord, the Truth, the Way and the Life, the Living Bread, the True Vine, the Prince of Peace, the Lamb, the Messiah, Emmanuel, I can go on and on. So please stop running from pillar to post: the definition under discussion is "the only begotten son."

We are saying that being "begotten" is inconsistent with being uncreated.

Shikena.

FreeIgboho:
Word of God is begotten of God. Does that make it not part of God?

Your words are not you and you existed even before you could speak or ever spoke, if that analigy suffices.
Besides dont change the point: the point is about his being a begotten son, not about being the word of God, whatever that means.

FreeIgboho:
NOT begotten in that sense. These are SPIRITUAL matters!!!

In what sense then?
Because for many of you it seems that you think waving the word "spiritual" is enough to exempt you from making sense.

FreeIgboho:
That's for your thoughtful response.
Jesus is called the ONLY begotten Son of God.
Please, how does that mesh with your erudite response?

God is uncreated and eternal in the past, yes?
So if the son is begotten of God, then he is not eternal on the past - he is a created being.

Therefore he cannot be the creator, God.
Do you know the history of the term "only begotten?" (monogenes)

Jakumo:
Haha big meat and small meat is also applicable to women, Ogawa Deep Sight, come to think of it.

According to the Oxford Dictionary of Bokenese Language, the terms "wey" and "when" are fully interchangeable.


For example, one could say, "Chairman like to shook woman when fat like popotamus.

Alternatively, one could say, " As for me, I sabi to nack woman when get big bress wey neva fall, wey she come get toto when tight sotay I go dey halla as I been dey shook am "

God bress Nigeria.

Ese gaan, Don Dada!

Baxilexi:
The chaos in the world today isn’t caused by existential threats but ideologies.
Trump has exposed Putin for who he really is… he’s initial claims bordered on demilitarization of Ukraine.
Trump called and wasted American tax payers money in Saudi to plead with him to end the war, he agreed and reneged on his promise.
Ideological expansionism has bedeviled man since time began and it’s conflagration is the admixture of religion… God wants thus… cc Shia/sunni conflict.

The world needs an arbiter… UN needs to step up, the current secretary general is too docile. Till then the west is the only balanced society that can fill that spot.

Most certainly the West is NOT balanced. Neither does it seek moderation, it seeks exploitation and power and it actively seeks the oppression of most of the world.

Neither has Trump "exposed" Putin. Putin has always been who he is. There is nothing new Trump has "exposed" about him. Besides Trump himself is one of the most embarrassing fraudsters in the history of civilization.

Shawarmagirl:
If Tinubu first term is like this and the North is bleeding, I pity the North for his second term when Tinubu has nothing to loose again. He will show them shege

And they know it. They are not daft.

Jakumo:
1. Big meat.
2. Small meat. /

Are you sure you are not misapplying these terms sir? Because we use these terms to categorize women.

3. Meat when sabi fight.
4. Meat when sabi run.

I still wonder at the pidgin usage of "when" here. Is it not "wey"?

LordReed:
You can't have a real relationship with an imaginary being.

Don't you sometimes still yearn for a connection with something bigger than yourself out there. A spiritual connection?

Baxilexi:
Fair argument, but can you vouch that if all countries of the world were armed with nukes there would be peace in the world?
This is a question we should pose to Russia and China as well… would they let their neighbors possess nukes as well?
If they would then I agree, everyone should get one, then we’ll all understand why the gun violence in America never ends… heck, the earth would be done in 1 month.

Nukes are not cheap and the truth is that the vast majority of countries would not bother because the likelihood of ever having to use them is almost nil, and so the argument that they are a waste is strong. Only the few countries who feel a threat from a similarly armed power will bother. As an example if Nigeria had nukes what will she ever use them for? Nothing. And this applies to almost every other country including the nuclear armed ones. Just look at how many conflicts there have been since the second world war and yet not a single nuke has been deployed after that war. That tells you alot. Everyone understands that it is a redline we cannot step back from and that's why the value rests only in deterrence.

Beyond that there is the sensitivity about nuclear powers trying to tell others they can't go nuclear. On a moral level that will never fly. A man with a gun will only try to tell you not to have one so he can point it at you and intimidate you and everyone understands that. The truth is that when a nation is determined to go nuclear if they have the resources it's almost impossible to stop them. Pakistan and North Korea are examples.