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Image123:
Whatever rocks your boat dear, don't let it affect your health.

I hope you know the fate of Boxer, after Napolean was done with him repeating "Napoleon is always right?"

He was sent to the knackers (the butcher).

DeOTR:
Of course, Israel the son of Isaac, the grandson of Abraham never existed according to you. We all know the inhabitants of that land for over 3000 years and they are no Arabs. Let's start from there.

Why start from there?
Abraham met people there when he came from Ur of the Chaldeans.

LordReed:
Bwahahahahahaha! The guy is a tone deaf basket case.

Its maddening!

Image123:
The point being that high level officials in the government were of the sentiments that the government was corrupt and poorly managed, not to mention the opposition. It's unlike the current government where they're in some sort of bond/unity to achieve what they want.

Yes, Squealer. In a Bond at the service of Napoleon as usual.

Image123:
NOI, Sanusi and Amaechi the head of NGF forum all came out to complain about humongous corruption in the government. Not to mention what opposition had to say. We're speaking english here, not your local dialect.

SLS had no grounds, he was dishonest, kept giving conflicting figures and acted in very bad faith.

miketayo:
You probably have seen a white person stand next to an Israeli

Lol!!!!!

My dear, let's just say I have been around.

miketayo:
I don't see white when I look at Israeli people. The Syrians are lighter in complexion.

LOL!

miketayo:
The ones I have seen personally are not white. It's just that dressing and hijab differentiate them.

Of course there are browner ones, but believe you me, its an European colonial white imperialist foothold.

themanderon:
You have a lot to learn about international politics. The US has always sought for an excuse to control Venezuelan resources and they have not rested ever since. They kidnapped the former president and deposed him yet he was adored and restored by his people till the CIA somehow poisoned him.

He was taken into custody by military officers loyal to the opposition within Venezuela and the coup failed within 2 days. The US never got him for one day.

Omoawoke:
Power is power

In the immortal words of Cersei Lannister.

miketayo:
While there are a lot of white people in Israel today, the majority of them look like arabs, you can barely tell the difference.

That is not true. Most look simply white. Check well.

miketayo:
lol you said there was nothing like Israel? Israel existed before England; Israel was there in Genesis.

I mean there was no Political State called Israel before 1948, and I am referring to the modern era.

As for ancient Israel, the people who lived there are not certain to be the same Europeans who have now colonised the place. Modern Israel is basically an European Colonial Settler Apartheid Imperialist Project.

miketayo:
If you read my comment, you would understand why she called herself Palestinian; she wasn't born there, nor did she grow up there. This was all the British doing.

Who doesn't get that? The fact is this. The British colonized vast parts of the world. Same argument can be made for many people around the globe of that generation in different countries.

The point is before 1948 there was nothing like Israel. There was Palestine.

mikeapollo:
Recognition on paper that does not hold water.
After the so called recognition, let them fly their plane and visit the place, hold rally and elections and let's see. Useless recognition!

The land belong to Israel

I am not arguing. I am not saying when or how. All I know is you cannot enslave a people forever. Palestine will be free.

The freedom of black South Africa started one step at a time.

It is similar.

Sad, that Africans who suffered the same thing wish it upon others.

FreeIgboho:
History almost ALWAYS says what people said happened. 99.99999999% of recorded history are NOT eyewitness accounts.

I never insisted everything in the Bible is historical fact. You're the one who keeps saying that. I'm fully aware I'm in no position to know.
But we need some basic assumptions to be able to have this type of discussion. One of those assumptions is that most things in the Bible are generally true unless obviously untrue or highly unlikely - like Muhamad flying to Jerusalem on a winged horse!

Are you just waking up? So when I listed highly unlikely things - because they are not known to occur in nature, such as talking animals and all those magical fantasies, why were you insisting that they were history? Only to wake up when I mention Mohammed and a winged horse abi?

Please NEVER waste my time like this again. I find it offensive.

Once i notice such again, i will block you.

miketayo:
This is not the first Israeli Prime Minister; she was the first Israeli female prime minister, born in the Russian Empire( now Ukraine), and an immigrant.
The passport she carried was a Mandatory Palestine passport issued by British authorities to residents of Mandatory Palestine between 1924 and 1948.
The word Palestine isn't even Arab; it was Greek, then Roman after they conquered the Jews, they didn't conquer the Arabs, so the people on that land were jews

She spoke for herself.
How many times do i need to say i wasn't being specific about first, second etc. She was the 4th.
She said I am a Palestinian. I hold a Palestinian Passport.

MrSly:
Iranian pseudo on the beat. Little wonder Ibrahim Traore decimated France without any consequence. France has lost relevance in the global politics. It is now seen as a glorified African country. The reason is simple, Emma is thinking like a child these days. Even his wife is now beyond his control.

Is France alone?

The State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 147 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, which is just over 75% of all UN members. This number has increased recently with several countries, including Ireland, Norway, Spain, and France (who announced they will formalize their decision in September), recognizing Palestine. - Culled.

Look, no one can enslave a nation forever in this modern world. No matter what you guys think, Palestine will be free.

billyG:
Is it this present day Palestinian passport that area was wrongly renamed Palestine by d Romans invaders this present day Palestinians(arabs) where not dwelling their then.

Botragelad:
There has never been a country called Palestine

miketayo:
The first prime minister was polish/Russian, and later migrated to Palestine, that video was doctored. Palestine had no passport at that time until the 1940s.
How can someone that ruled in 1920s own a passport

Not being specific to first or second

Please have a look and learn sir. Golda Meir. Among the earlier PMs of Israel.

Botragelad - it's easy to talk. Without knowing. She called herself a Palestinian and travelled on a Palestinian Passport. And you sit here and talk.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixbdlUhELoU?si=UVPCw29A1wOpyq6t

FreeIgboho:
My friend you're playing partiality. The man said to show him one instant where such was recorded in what he called "history". When I came up with historical records he still dismissed them. What other history does he want??!

Do you agree that Muhammad flying on a winged horse to Jerusalem is history?

LordReed:
Please I have no time for obtuseness today. Continue that with DeepSight, he has the capacity I don't.

I began to feel there is a genuine learning difficulty here.
Because all these things may seem obtuse but he may actually be challenged.

FreeIgboho:
So what do you call this below? By what power did Constantine triumph? And if this is not history, what is it?

History records what he said he saw as his vision. Same way it will record if you say you had a dream last time which led you to victory.
History will not, and historians cannot affirm the connection between your dream and your victory because it cannot be affirmed.

History is actually a discipline, an academic discipline in the sense we mean here. We refer to what a qualified Historian will put down, and not the fantasies and superstitions of anyone.

Pick up a proper encyclopedia, you can never see it recorded that Constantine won by virtue of a vision. They will state what he mentioned, that he said he saw a vision and asked his men to put the Chi-Ro on their shields, they will state the details of the battle. Nowhere will it be said as a historical fact that he won by a vision. And thats simply because no one knows that. He could have been saying what he said for any reason including to encourage his men.

I hope you understand that if you pursue this path of insisting that everything in scripture is history, you must surely accept that it is also history that Muhamad flew to Jerusalem on a winged horse. Do you accept that as history?

Botragelad:
There has never been a country called Palestine, and the idea of carving one just to give terrorists a launching pad is likely never going to happen.

I guess that's why the first Prime Ministers of Israel held Palestinian Passports!
Carry on.

LagosOrigin:
Tinubu is obviously scared of this coalition because all the people that helped him to rig northern votes in 2023 have now joined ADC and more than willing to unseat him in 2027

Tinubu is the worst president Nigeria ever had. Buhari is way better than him

The thing is he is actually anti-Nigeria.

FreeIgboho:
But you can't provide a single one but you want me to produce telepathy. And when I do you shift the goal post! The first shot below is from CIA

You want me to provide a historical record regarding gravity? You surely are kidding. Try jumping off your roof tomorrow, it will be on record.

As regards your attachment -

All of that is unproven experimentation which ranks with all sorts of psychic claims everywhere. You still will not find a historical report saying that on such and such a day a psychic message was delivered from X to Y and that led to Z. You will only find that in the realms of speculation and conspiracy theory.

I am trying to teach you here: understand - the fact that anyone can produce a report of someone practicing juju is not the way Historical texts are written. Juju is simply not acknowledged as real even if it can be reported that someone practices it, you will not find a report saying that an airplane was verified brought down on X day by juju.

That all this is in a bid to classify the mythical aspects of the bible such as talking snakes and donkeys as actual history is tiresome.

Do you know of Homer's Ilad and do you regard all the events therein as history?

Let me try to help u further. Does prayer exist as a practice in the history of the world? Of course it does. That is proper to say. So it can be historically recorded that people pray.

However in an academic historical record, you will never see a statement such as - "The British by prayer defeated the Germans in the second world war, their prayers having been heard by heaven, from where magical armies assisted."

That can be anyone's belief but that is no historical record.

FreeIgboho:
Why not find one that says

In the year 43 BCE, Julius Caesar was murdered by gravity which was activated through the science of Marcus Brutus, and so ended his Dictatorship, leading to the civil wars resulting in the emergence of the Empire."

You will find many historical events which record the activity of gravity and scientific work. That is the point. You will not find a record referring to magic as a historical event. You cannot for example, find a historical record saying that "On the 4th day of June 1914, the PM of Great Britain sent a declaration of war by telepathy to Germany, and thus started the second world war."

You are not in a primary school. I am really being patient here.

FreeIgboho:
He is NOT the Father!!!! One of the Father's job is to know that date and hour. God Jesus doesn't concern himself with that

The Trinity claims they are one.

FreeIgboho:
I can't believe this! History texts with telepathy abound. See just some below

Those are descriptions of religious beliefs not of historical events.

It's like googling about Juju or voodoo and sending me what you find about such practices and beliefs and then saying that such are actual events in history.

Let me help you. You need help..

So what you need to do is find a Historical Text which has been academically produced by Historians which says something like this -

"In the year 43 BCE, Julius Caesar was murdered by voodoo which was activated through the telepathy of Marcus Brutus, and so ended his Dictatorship, leading to the civil wars resulting in the emergence of the Empire."

That is what such being recorded as historical events would look like.

I hope you understand.

FreeIgboho:
See lack of understanding. This is why people keep arguing what they don't know.
"God" comprizes the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God knows everything. The Father has some functions that the son doesn't and vice versa. One of the Father's functions is knowledge of the day or hour

You said the Son is God.

If he was, he would know everything.
He said he doesn't know everything.
This simply means he is not God.

Secondly the Trinity actually teaches that all these parts are the same person. If they were indeed the same person, then again the son would know everything.

End of.

FreeIgboho:
Here's what u said verbatim: Where have you seen telepathy in a history book please.

It turns out history books are full of telepathy!

You can't be helped.
There isn't telepathy in historical texts.
Just as there isn't magic in historical texts.
Just as there isn't Juju in historical texts.
Just are there aren't mermaids in historical texts.
Just as there aren't unicorns in historical texts.
Just as there aren't fairies in historical texts.

However if you look for research into any of these, descriptions of the lore of any of these, philosophical ideals of any of these, you will find plenty material.

That does not mean that historical texts record any such things as real.

Historians do not.

However I know already you can't grasp this.
I am convinced you are not alright.

FreeIgboho:
*God knows everything:
Psalm 147:5 says, "Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit."

*God knows the future:
Isaiah 46:9-10 says, "declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things not yet done."

These alone disqualify Jesus from being God since he said himself he does not know everything -
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father - MATT 24 V 36

End of debate, yet again.

FreeIgboho:
See below

You are giving me definitions of the term? Meaning and studies? Are you joking? I am wasting my time with you.
Next thing you will produce studies on magic and the definitions.