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raumdeuter:
Schools admit based on what you can achieve or aspire to

If I say you need to meet this SAT score this money, this athletic standard you can try to

Now imagine I say I admit only Asians, how can deepsight become Asian even if he tried?

Good evening.

raumdeuter:
So we can say Obama killed of Americans in their thousands as well
So we can say Obama killed Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown

That's the difference between me and you, I will call Obama a killer any day any time as well - but for different reasons than the above nonsense.

raumdeuter:
They should admit on what they want and doesnt discriminate any group

Academic Sporting money doesnt discriminate against any group cos any race can be brilliant athletic or rich unlike race. When you say I am.admitting because you are white you have automatically disqualified other races because nothing a Hispanic Asian can do to meet that criteria

I cant waste my time further with you.
At least I will hold this conversation as evidence that you have dumped merit.

raumdeuter:
Whites are not the richest demographic per capita

Money or riches is color blind. You can get rich regardless of your color

Actually the average Nigerian Americans are richer than the average white

This is too nonsensical to address.

raumdeuter:
Schools admit based on many factors. Some are even admitted because of their sporting prowess . Is that academic merit

Does sporting prowess favor one person?

Just admit your argument has collapsed.

If you are to stay consistent - at least try and start where Benalvino3 did - by saying all are bad and should be banned, including preference based on money,

raumdeuter:
The school decides what criteria they want as long as they don't do racial discrimination

They need money for research and other things and if you pay for it they give you concessions

How is giving money concessions preferential to whites? Per capital whites are not the richest groups

This your victimhood get PhD

Many things are skewed to favor those who are rich even home ownership

Please be consistent - are you now changing mouth? Because you shout "it should be merit" when people are allegedly favoured by race.
Why are you now defending people being favored by money?

Is money academic merit?

And the bold in your post above is disgusting. You are now saying its okay to sell admissions simpliciter right? For such distinguished schools?
Shame.

benalvino3:
You confuse race with class. An example of the gutter-level understanding I was talking about.

Not at all.
And I repeat - is class academic merit?

Also answer - do you also oppose Black Economic Empowerment Policies in South Africa?

benalvino3:
I have been saying I oppose all from eternity 😂😂 what's wrong with these leftists on this thread.

Yes, evidence and court cases shows Harvard gave unqualified people admission

Prove it.

And among those unqualified people, dont forget to list the whites who got same by donation.

benalvino3:
He is confusing class with race

raumdeuter:
Thats the problem of arguments on a weak premise

A rich black has a higher chance than a poor white if money is the criteria

Nonsense. The reverse is true - I was pointing out that aside from race whites get preference based on other metrics, and one is wealth. Of course we cannot ignore the reasons for the wealth disparity in the first place - it is also race based.

Nonetheless, the point is neither race nor class are academic merit, are they?

raumdeuter:
School gives preference to anyone who can donate to them regardless of color

If you have the money you can also pay

Just like home ownership favors those who can afford it

School admission ought to be about merit, no? A school is not the same as a supermarket.
You are the ones who always shout merit.

The minute you are shown that the rich buy this thing, you have forgotten the word merit abi?

That is hyppcrisy.

Its a pity. Defensive once shown the preferential treatment for whites. Offensive towards any preferential treatment for blacks. Pity.

benalvino3:
I rad what you wrote. The problem is your conclusion does not follow.

I say if the legacy admissions, donor preferences, and special treatment for wealthy applicants are unfair, then remove them too. I have no problem saying that.

Recently I read about a fraud wealthy white people were doing, some Hollywood stars were arrested. It's more like a class issue than race but I digress.

This your argument is nothing short of a contradiction.

If your position is that group preference is acceptable, then why are you angry when whites use their own group advantage through legacy, donor networks, alumni connections, and institutional influence?

You cannot say race-based preference is moral when it benefits your side, but immoral when another group benefits from its own networks.

My position is consistent: remove all unfair preference race preference, donor preference, legacy preference, and any system that gives people advantage because of birth, race, or family connection. We should be color-blind.

So

You do not hate preference. You only hate preference when it does not benefit your preferred group.

I oppose both. I oppose legacy preference for rich white applicants, and I oppose race preference for Black applicants.

That is the difference between us. I am arguing for equal standards. You are arguing for selective favoritism.

I am glad you say you oppose all, at least that is moving an inch.
But the truth remains that there is no comparison between the two scenarios. One was put in place to correct a historical wrong. And has now been struck down by the Supreme Court. Yet you were crying about it - as you always cry about anything that favours the black people. While the other still remains untouched.

Secondly you dont want to admit you initially claimed unqualified people were admitted by Harvard. You will not die if you retract that falsehood.

Thirdly the deeper context is generally lost on you. Do you also oppose BEEE in SA?

raumdeuter:
Just like the wealthiest people with the best credit scores are able to buy houses, and pay for stuffs they want including college education

That doesnt meet the argument on academic merit.
Stay consistent.

raumdeuter:
List the Americans Trump has killed

Why must it be Americans?

But two come to mind -

Renée Nicole Good and Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

These are aside from the Venezuela Boat killings, killings in Iran, and the thousands who have died as a result of USAID withdrawal.

raumdeuter:
If a black person donates does he also get treatment?

You can go nd inquire about that from any University, the fact remains that the wealthiest demographic gets the majority of that preferential treatment.

raumdeuter:
Leftists actually want to kill and actively shoot people they dont agree with their political views unlike Trump

You should not have a problem with that since Trump also kills.

CharlotteFlair:
Who we go ask now? Who will confirm your claims?

Olopa.

BeginsAtHome:
Well, who ever worships Trump or any other person should have their heads examined.

Was Jesus also a person as per the bold?

CharlotteFlair:
Are you holier?

We all have our faults, but I certainly am not a rapist, sexual assaulter of minors, pathological liar, con man and fraudster, racist and murderer as he is.

qtx:
Before you start saying things out of ignorance, carry your dictionary and search the word "Honour" note the meaning, then open this word "Worship" , compare the two and tell me if you can comprehend? I knew many here will start showing superlative ignorance through their comments including even some who claim to know the bible very well.

You are the one who needs a dictionary. The word "worship" does not only connote the worship of God. Extreme devotion and admiration is also worship. E.g: "He loved her so much he worshipped the ground she walked on."

This is a proper usage of the word worship and since you dare to talk about the dictionary while being so ignorant, here goes -

Worship

noun
1
: reverence offered a divine being or supernatural power
also : an act of expressing such reverence
2
: a form of religious practice with its creed and ritual
3
: extravagant respect or admiration for or devotion to an object of esteem
worship of the dollar
4
chiefly British : a person of importance —used as a title for various officials (such as magistrates and some mayors)

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/worship

Worship verb (ADMIRE)

To love, respect, and admire someone or something very much, often without noticing the bad qualities of that person or thing

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/worship

BeginsAtHome:
Well, who ever worships Trump or any other person should have their heads examined.

Trump is just an overbearing narcissist but I do not think he has ever implied that he should be worshiped.

His ego is bigger than the size of California.

Why did he post himself as Jesus once?

benalvino3:
Or maybe it's your gutter-level understanding.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahhaha.
Just go to school.

Illiteracy is a scourge.

benalvino3:
Is that not why in 2026, you people are crying about?
As a black man I don't need it. You say you need it. I am in support of stopping affirmative action, but you are not.

I see everyone as equal you see black people as inferior, hence, you want special treatment.

Stop lying, you see whites as superior and gods.

benalvino3:
Emotions.
We see the ones who gets riled up when they hear something they don't like.

It's a shame when you guys start talking about spitting in the face of people because of their opinion. That is violence itself.

Pls just go to school. You sicken me with your gutter level thinking.

Sonofgod1990:
Tinubu is trying his best.
Lets support his second tenure

He will surely turn things around


West Ham 2 vs arsenal 1

Vomits.

benalvino3:
Yes, they don't have self-awareness sadly. They think they are the good guys 😂

Some people are worse less than d u n g.

benalvino3:
The problem with you is that you put your mouth in everything out of ignorance.

Harvards old admissions system gave a racial preference to Black applicants, and the data showed Black applicants could be admitted with weaker academic credentials than Asian and white applicants.

Do your due diligence from here 👆

The answer is already up there. The facts show that white applicants got more preferential treatment even when race was considered when admitting qualified candidates.

The problem with you is you don't even understand the words you use. You specifically said unqualified candidates were admitted. I have shown you there is no such thing.

Finally, the Supreme Court outlawed what you claimed and it's stopped.

NOETHNICITY:
The actions of Christians reminds of the words of Jesus himself, that he will reject Christians on the day of judgement

If there were in fact such a day of judgment certainly almost every Trumpist would be rejected.

Menclothing1:
It’s better than killing others in the name of religion

But Hegseth cites Christianity as his basis and inspiration in the war against Iran.

HacheNoire:
How dare you compare a demigod with a mere human!

I demand an apology!

There we go!

Point proven!

BeginsAtHome:
I hear a lot of people saying "this is idolatry".

No my dear friends, this is a man doing his stuff.

Idolatry means building or making images and other insignias for the purpose of worship.

This statue is strictly to commemorate his survival of a brutal assassination attempt.

He never told anyone to worship it.

Happy Sunday.

Not only do people already worship Trump as God and Christ, he puts himself out for such.

HacheNoire:
🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Seems the world is truly coming to an end.

That up there is not too different from your worship of BAT.