₦airaland Forum

bemeruca:
IEDs in Iraq were all Iran's doing. Many more in Lebanon etc.

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Lol. Weak.

IMAliyu2:
Damn, for all the gymnastics she was running for Trump, this is her reward.

Lmao

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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha!

bayelsaowei:
Have you also forgotten how the EU bled and lost lives in the coalition war they fought alongside the US against Afghanistan and other intervention.

You talk like the EU has been a docile ally to the US.

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On top of that he insulted their war dead by saying they cowered at the back in Afghanistan.

When Britain alone had over 400 dead there.

bemeruca:
Iran has been attacking the US and and NATO for decades.

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Other than the embassy hostage situation.
Can you give us instances.

Omoboricash:
Afraid of what? He fought his way to get into power when he was even opposed by the same cabal of his party , nownhe is the president and you are saying he is afraid .

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He is scared. And the reason is simple. The three that contended against him with a total of over 14 Million votes are now together.

That will frighten anyone.

Image123:
Please, can we understand why there's infighting in ADC again?
If we as usual blame APC or Tinubu. Are we really saying opposition can't settle within themselves? How is it impossible to tie loose knots/nuts in your party, given such history in some other parties. All these people that want to save Nigeria can't negotiate among themselves, or settle out of court in the same party among few known leaders of their party. What would you do with Nigeria's multidimensional problems too?
You should show some excellence and superiority at problems solving. Abi na only Tinubu get destiny to be ten steps ahead for 9ja politics?

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Chai.

WizardOfNG:
How is that possible and why would such make me happy? If you don't get it yet, it is desperate Atiku, Obi and their gathering of 'destroyers' of Nigeria, that Malami and Aregbesola etal epitomises, I am mocking.

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It amounts to the same thing.

WizardOfNG:
Lol. PRP looking to cash out from the desperation of Atiku, Obi, Aregbesola etal who cannot build a winning Party, and only know how to buy one, yet insisting they are best to lead Nigeria.

Make PRP sef cash out before Dubai dollars finish with "gluttons" like Momodu, Kenneth Okonkwo etal looking to pocket a large chunk of the 'budget'.

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Do you want Bola to run unopposed? Will that make you happy?

Budaatum.

The argument about a necessary being (self existent root) has nothing whatsoever to do with the Watchmaker Argument. I will explain later.

Now back to this.

budaatum:
I can live with whatever it suggests, deepsight. And to be sincere, I love the mystique too. Just see the attention your thread has generated already, lol. The fact I can be here as long as I have and most still wonder is kind of an achievement. And amusing when those who get my gender wrong claim to know whatever about me.

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Nonetheless asking to be addressed as "they/them" does speak.

Oh. Truth, lol. Okay, let me try.

Everything written in The Mystical Life of Jesus, is uncorroborated and is likely to be untrue, while everything written in Mental Alchemy can be made to be true or not.

You asked about spirituality earlier, and this is sort of where it applies. It necessitates not seeing things as dichotomic.


You do keep insisting on this "belief" thing, lol.

My buddhism, Zen, to be specific, is not a belief system, but more of a philosophy. As in, a lens that one sees through. One does not carry the boat along the journey after a river is crossed. You leave the boat and walk.

Basically, the cause of my own dhukka is my own tanha. And the solution to my tanha is the Eight Fold Path. It makes me responsible for myself.

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So you are a student of the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism.

I long admired those. Nonetheless the prescription of Buddhism to kill our desire is somewhat "anti-life" to me.
Life is all about passion and desire and taking them away takes away the very essence of living.

In this regard, there is something nihilistic about Buddhism, dont you think?

No sir, I do not "really think the physical body is all there is to us". I am not currently engaging with your physical body, I am engaging with your mind. When I die though, my mind will die with me.

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So you believe that the mind is tied to the physical brain and ceases to exist once the physical brain perishes?

But please know that sneaky me is ensuring I live on after I die. I'll tell you how only if you ask.

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I ask.
But I am guessing it's by leaving sufficient memories of you and your thoughts like droplets around the world and in the minds of others, like seeds that will germinate and live on.

Sincerely speaking, I don't think we have interacted as much as you think. Or shall I say, not as deep. And I mentioned those specific gods more for the response.

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Fair enough.

God, in any form, and as far as I am concerned, is a gap filler. Those willing to know will seek more instead of filling the gap with gods and no more seeking.

My insistence on writing "god" is so only God is not assumed.

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Nonetheless, surely something or the other sits at the root of reality?

Even gods must have causes, unless one wants to claim gods are uncaused, which in my view invalidates the idea of an uncaused cause of anything.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

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It stands to perfect reason that for anything at all to exist, something or the other must be self existent. Do you dispute this. But first, do you understand the rationale for it?

budaatum:
I shall try really really hard, Deep, I promise. But know that any time you use that word with me, my bull will red flag it, or I'll just assume you don't know what you are talking about and will treat what you say accordingly.

It's because I have regard for a person who has deep sight. I can not accept shallow sight from one as deep as you.

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I verily believe you will know what I mean by believe each time you see me use it.

budaatum:
In most cases people do not have reasons for their beliefs, Deep, especially where religions are concerned and where the word often crops up, though your "believe that X politician is corrupt" proves my pedantic point.

You only believe X politician is corrupt because you don't actually have sufficient evidence to know. After all if X politician had been tried in court and been found guilty by you on the jury or a judge and sent to prison, you wouldn't merely 'believe' X politician was corrupt because you'd now know that X politician is corrupt (unless you disagree with the court of course).

But to simplify. You wouldn't say you believe it is raining if water is falling on your head from the sky, unless you think it might not only be rain, like perhaps it's just some god p1s5ing. And you'd only believe you have a million pounds in your bank account because you have not yet checked. And as soon as you do check your bank account, you'd stop believing because you now actually know.

But like I said, pedantic me. See it as demystifying buda to you.

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Ugh. I have heard.
Pls try not to bring it up again (with me). Assume I know.

budaatum:
There's quite a lot wrong with it in my book, but I guess pedantic me would need to settle with you getting it.

Just know that every time I see 'believe', I'm hearing "I don't really know because I have not sufficiently checked, and just assume it is true".

It's absurd to ask someone to believe what you don't know to be true or not. Jesus would accuse such people of giving stones to those seeking bread, and would likely say woe to such people.

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But that is simply not the meaning of the word "believe." And in many cases, people have reasons for their belief. I don't speak of religious beliefs here. I speak of belief generally.

So if I say I believe that X politician is corrupt, I likely have reasons to believe that.

But I hear you loud and clear and understand what you mean in terms of religious beliefs.

budaatum:
Yeah! My good old pagan non-God believing Samaritan whom Jesus told believers to go and do as he did. Unfortunately, many miss the point and go "Lord! Lord!"

My 'other cheek' fascination is not a belief (and by all the gods do I so not like that word), but a practise. I often turn the other cheek to those who insult or are rude to buda in Nairaland and watch them tire of insulting or being rude to buda. Most end up being close Nairaland friends who would share a bottle of vintage red with me.

That said, I have a close family member who never seems to tire slapping. They reported me to their pastor who I respect much, and I asked her why they never tell the slapper to stop. She told me she preached "slappers, stop!" for her next sermon, but doubts my slapper got the point.

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So funny.

I get your distinction between believing and knowing but honestly I tire of you hammering on about it. There is nothing wrong with the word "believe" and neither is it really the whole sale admission of ignorance you say it is.

budaatum:
Add, "turn the the cheek". It's not a parable par se, but it's my favourite often used Nairaland tool, though I confess slipping lately.

Here is a thread about how buda feels about Jesus, if you are interested.

https://www.nairaland.com/5178192/questions-budaatum-how-follow-jesus

Cc: KobolanderSegun

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I see your love of the Parable of the Good Samaritan which is also a personal favourite.

I don't believe in turn the other cheek through. I think it is irresponsible and breeds evil.

RhemaJet7:
Abstain from every form of premarital SEX, God hates it

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THIS IS EXTREMELY BAD ADVICE, SINGLE PEOPLE, FLEE FROM IT. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE TO ASSESS YOUR SEXUAL COMPATIBILITY.

KobolanderSegun:
I haven't fallen sick in 20 years and I'm perfectly immune to Malaria and Typhoid fever. Coming from a childhood of constant sickness I can say Jesus Teachings are fantastic for health.

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They are elevated teachings which lead to peace of spirit and equanimity of mind.

However I don't accept "turn the other cheek" which I regard as dangerous.

KobolanderSegun:
If it was a political stroke they would have gotten rid of it immediately after they had achieved their goals..

" once people wear a mask they take off the mask to breathe properly."

Everyone knows how the Romans choose December....... But why did all the pagan religions they had die ?

If the role was to mask their pagan religions why did those religions pass away. I'm extremely conversant with all Religions and cults that have ever existed but why is Christianity still standing ?

I'm even against Christians making noise because of their pagan barbaric methods of worshipping of God.

Why have I not gone to church for 25 years and even mock Christians and laugh at Jesus Christ disciples who winned and dined with him ? . Why then do I not extent the disrespect to Jesus ?

Because Laughing at Jesus is as Foolish as a basketballer Laughing at Michael Jordan. I can laugh at Scottie Pipen because he is no Michael Jordan

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Even agnostic me likes Jesus of Nazareth very much. At least the concept of him as presented, with his simple teachings through parables.

Of course I don't believe in the virgin birth, the trinity or the sacrificial death as redemption.

I do believe in his simple teachings though. Such as the Beatitudes / Sermon on the Mount. Parable of the Good Samaritan. Parable of the Talents. Etc.

seunmsg:
https://www.nairaland.com/8504832/adc-factional-chairman-nafiu-bala

A forged letter was attached in the communication to INEC. The man clearly said he did not resign. Again, in what capacity did Ralph Nwosu wrote this letter to INEC on 21st July when David Mark took over as Acting National Chairman on 2nd July 2025?

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Your bias is terrible. The pattern is clear enough.

Nyesom Wike - PDP inside man
Lamidi Apapa - LP inside man
Nafiu Bala - ADC inside man

Pls when you talk, stop thinking 200 million people are blind children.

Tell me, will you be satisfied if there is no opposition in 2027?

bigpicture001:
Tinubu will go for a third term... Mark it.. and all his enabling institution will only create new reason why he should

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Anyone who can't see that already is blind.

The deadline for primaries is just two months from now. That is not enough time to resolve the case up to the Supreme Court. ADC leaders wise up. It's time to mass decamp to your back up party. It's the only way out.

And you must have at least three back ups. They will come for each so be ready to mass decamp within twenty four hours each time. It's the only chance left.

Unfortunately the time is too short. Mark / Ogbeni / Atiku / Obi / Kwankwaso and co should activate plan B and move enmasse at once into a back up party, and I trust there are at least three back ups because this was long foreseen and also we know they will still come for the first and second back ups, so at least three back ups.

EnglandAmaka:
The same foreign minister that debunked Isreal's claim that Ayatolla has been killed when Ayatolla was indeed killed is who you want to believe. Continue. Just continue

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And Donald Trump? How many times has he contradicted himself since this war started?

We have won. We are sending more troops. We need help. Which is it?

LordReed:
LoLz! Your response made me burst out laughing.

Meanwhile have some radical gratitude coo coo coo:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xISvHjg3smw

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When you look at the outcomes of Trump's actions, sometimes one is tempted to think that there is something to the idea that he is after all a Russian asset.

seunmsg:
It gives me so much joy to see a lot of you opposition noisemakers in disarray. If you can do something as basic as put together a problem free opposition party, how can you solve the multitude of challenges facing a multi ethnic and multi religious country like Nigeria?

The people going to court are opposition members. Mr Nafiu Bala Gombe was in ADC before the Criminal coalition members arrived. He is a citizen and has the right to demand for what rightfully belongs to him. The ruling party will not help you placate a man you stole from. Do the right thing and give him back what belongs to him or the court will step up and protect him from the scavengers.

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You know you dont believe in courts. So shatap.

raumdeuter:
That is how you know those who do not think for themselves, once they give them a template, Just scream raycist that is all. No critical thinking

The democratic plantation has told them that is all they need to do

Little wonder why Democratic leader like Gavin Newson thinks him getting 960 in SAT is like a black person, or Biden thinks if you dont vote him you are not black

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The truth is as I said, I would engage you both seriously if it werent so obvious that even if Trump said "All blacks are monkeys who dont deserve to live" you would defend it and probably say he was joking.

And you know you will. And we both know you will.

Its that mutual knowledge which you have both proven time and time again that makes any serious engagement futile.

I dont think you know me well. If you did you would know that I am a meticulous and thorough discussant who will take his time to go over things with anyone soberly. Its just that both of you make it obvious that such would be a waste of time.

benalvino3:
If you don't have anything to say, just cry and say the word raycist and you will magically make sense and win an argument. There is no substance in most of your arguments, just emotion

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You are the emotional one, its just that that emotion is that of slavish worship of a master.

raumdeuter:
Its a cowardly cop out when you throw the word racist out without proving your arguments

Its either intellectual laziness or just being dishonest

I am saying blacks do not need reduced cutoff or pander to them just give us the same standards you give everyone else. If we pass fine. If we dont pass no problem we will try harder. We are capable of doing what every race can do

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As I have said, I could even listen to this without qualms but for the fact that I know you will defend anything no matter how raycist. That stops me from seriously engaging you.

I mean, you and your sidekick Ben insisted that an image of the Obamas as apes was not raycist. For heavens sake what's the point discussing seriously with you after that.

raumdeuter:
So when you are trying to pick the NBA team do you say they must have Chinese Arabs Hispanics in the team or you strictly pick the best?

If so why wont you do the same for your pilot your surgeons etc that actually deal with life and death situations

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I have already told you that it is different with areas of particular studied expertise and these are the areas that are so studied because they often involve life and death. I dont know what else to say.

Look, I would have taken some of your arguments seriously and decided to go in depth with you lot but for the fact that you have shown you will defend even the worst racist statements or acts. So unfortunately I cant take you lot seriously.

commoditiesnig:
I absolutely disagree! Let’s stop putting blame on someone else when we fail to act responsibly!

I had suggested since that these politicians can SIMPLY FORM THEIR OWN NEW PARTY.

Why going to Hijack an already existing party.. now now Aregesola don be National secretary, Mark don turn Chairman.. haba how come. Lol.. same case with LP, NNPP, etc.

PDP was clearly caused from Atiku wanting to become president instead of South

They should have since formed a new party

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I am sure if you are honest you will know that the govt will also invade any such new party in the same way. Also if you followed the news well since early last year, you will know that the govt deliberately played things in such a way as to leave very scant options and drive everyone off the field. Even the registration of new parties was made almost impossible. Obviously you didnt fpollow.

raumdeuter:
Most Americans were born in America. The Black, the Chinese the Indian, the Hispanic, So the environmental factors are the same for both of them

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I added cultural as well. Mind you, some environmental factors come into genes when a race has for centuries developed in an environment.

raumdeuter:
How many of the best of the best of all races are entering NBA, Should we mandate that we have equal number of Chinese American on the NBA teams

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I was explaining to basilico earlier that sports is very different. There are cultural and environmental influences that make some tribes better at some sports.

For example Brazil and football, Kenya and marathons. It also will not be surprising that people who live around water may be better swimmers etc.

These factors tend to disappear with areas of studied technical expertise.