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raumdeuter:No wait. You have to tell me your own goatish tendency first. Besides your definition is faulty since goats existed before domestication and there are still wild goats as is evident with your case. |
raumdeuter:I will answer after you define goat for me and let me know your own type of goat leaning. |
PigTormentor:How is he sadistic? |
TV01:Why are you so predictable ? How is it that I could rightly predict that you would pretend not to see all those verses on predestination which knock out your argument on freewill? Sigh. Worever. |
raumdeuter:I am not responsible for them. |
raumdeuter:I will do one better. I will give you a scenario that mirrors both sides doing the exact same thing. Influence peddling by Hunter Biden and Eric Trump. The Pentagon has awarded a contract to Eric Trump's company recently. Both administrations are guilty of this kind of thing. There. This is how to be balanced and objective. |
raumdeuter:How does this relate to the video I sent. Secondly I didn't do what you claimed and not everyone did. |
raumdeuter:That was not my conclusion. My conclusion was that I admit the corruption of both whereas you lot can never admit Trumps glaring corruption. |
NerdCat:The very fact that this supposedly omniscient God regrets his actions is enough to throw his omniscience into the dust bin. |
TV01:This is laughably escapist. The same God that blocked access to the Tree of Life from fear that man would eat of it and become "as one of us?" The same God that expressed regret and repentance over his decisions several times? An omniscient God cannot do that. That is logically impossible. |
TV01:I knew it will end with so called free will. But let us examine this. 1. Your God is said to be all powerful. 2. Your God, being an all powerful creator has created a world and life with set choices. In other words, the spectrum of possible choices is determined by your God. To break that down for you, you cannot, for example, choose to be a rabbit today, or choose to stop breathing and still live. The choices you have are limited to a framework and a world- scenario determined by your God. 3. Given (2) above your God could always have created a world scenario with a framework and set choices which preclude the death, disease, natural disasters and evil inherent in his creation. 4. But going even beyond all this, your God preaches predestination and says that he in fact determines everything that happens. Do you need me to produce the verses? Here: Ephesians 1:11: "In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will." Romans 8:29-30: "For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son... And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified." Isaiah 46:10: "I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.'" Proverbs 16:9: "In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps." Proverbs 20:24: "A person’s steps are directed by the Lord. How then can anyone understand their own way?" Psalm 37:23: "The Lord makes firm the steps of the one who delights in him." Proverbs 19:21: "Many are the plans in a person’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails." There you go. Predestination is clear. So your argument is thoroughly defeated. But knowing you, you will pretend not to see these crystal clear verses just as you pretend not to see those on slavery and witches. |
LordReed:GBAM. They just dont know that they have to choose one between all-good/ merciful and all powerful. |
TV01:What is this gibberish? |
NerdCat:GBAM! |
TV01:Are you saying that Darwin came up with the ToE because he was an atheist or humanist? I hope you know of Alfred Russel Wallace who simultaneously came up with the same theory. He was a spiritualist and argued that natural selection alone could not account for higher human faculties like artistic talent, mathematical ability, or moral sense. He believed a "Higher Intelligence" must have guided the evolution of the human spirit |
TV01:Animals are not robots that have no sense of pain. It is wrong to make them suffer for what they have no part in. Besides you know very well that this is an excuse. 1. Are you sure you can sustain the idea that death was only the consequence of sin? Because to do so, remember you will have to say that man was intended to live in the physical world forever. Do you wish to say that? 2. The spectrum of diseases in the world is such that no one can attribute to sin. Did mosquitoes for example only begin to exist because of sin? Add to them the entire line of viruses, bacteria etc which are themselves also critical and cardinal to the existence of life! |
TV01:How come animals are affected by death, disease, old age, etc if they didnt participate in sin, or is that just your Yahweh's usual habit of punishing the innocent for the sins of the guilty. |
TV01:SHATTTAP! Atheism / humanism are NOT the wellspring of the ToE. |
basilico:Start with the outcomes of his actions vis-a-vis Russia's interests. 1. Ukraine - Vastly reducing support to Ukraine, thus giving Russia the upper hand 2. NATO - His rhetoric about NATO reads like it was drafted by the Russian Foreign Ministry - they could not wish for better. NATO is the most important bulwark of the west against Russia and he threatens to destroy it. 3. Iran - He has lifted sanctions blocking sales of Russian Oil thus making billions for Russia. He has even extended that lift. Start with these and focus on outcomes so as not to be dribbled. Then you will see clearly whats happening. A deeper dive will require exhaustive discussion on what the Russia investigations revealed. And they revealed a lot that was not even denied, but going there will take too much time and energy when you are not worth such investment. |
LordReed:I have told you that chap is not to be taken seriously on these matters. |
TV01:You should be ashamed of yourself. Darwin proposed the Theory of Evolution in 1858, centuries after Christians had been practicing slavery, relying on scripture. And you dare accuse others of being dishonest. This is not just dishonesty, it remains illiteracy. |
Obrigardo:Well said, but as per your last line, the sad truth is that they are not pretending. They truly worship the man. |
basilico:I am not sure it will be worth my while. After all the things you placed on your bucket list are still hanging there unattended to up till now. I dont want to expand that list. All I can tell you is that you should read between the lines and focus on the actual outcomes of his actions vis-a-vis Russia's interests (use Ukraine, NATO and Iran as cases - you will find that his actions have very carefully fulfilled Russian objectives). |
GloriousGbola:But language is a different matter from religion. I would think its rather like someone posting in Latin because they are Catholic. Doesn't work in my humble estimation, especially as Arabic is not one of the languages of Nigeria either official or non official. Furthermore, its use being tied to religion says something - officials should try as much as possible to detach themselves from religion in public affairs. |
basilico:Beyond all cavil, Trump is a mala fide asset of the Kremlin. |
bolaayenimo:Why do you say this. |
Gerrard59:What I worry about is that there is a bizarre phenomenon that defies physics in Nigeria. Whatever goes up rarely comes down. |
basilico:The difference between you and I is that I know every administration engages in such corrupt practices. Almost all however hide what they do behind a screen of decency. Trump by contrast does a lot of his corruption openly and in the face of the public and yet people like you deny it. |
Raumdeuter https://youtube.com/shorts/dfjhzOSYHJE?si=nfW-_1e2vljIE33x This should help you. Sadly nothing can. In case you miss it, my point is about Thomas Sowell. |
bemeruca:It is a pity what is going on in South Africa and I thought quite a bit about it earlier today and over the last few days as well, because it didnt just start. One thing that occurred to me was how unfortunate this trend of inter African xenophobia is, because we even see Ghanaians saying Nigerians must leave Ghana as well, and there are other examples. What is of note is that none of these countries is a country of immigrants where you have immigrants discriminating against other immigrants and trying to say other immigrants should be shut out, as is the case with the Trumps and Badenochs of this world. |
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