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basilico:
If I knew the pilots were fast tracked in order to meet a racial quota, I would not fly in that plane.

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There is nothing like a pilot being fast tracked. It's an area of specific expertise. There are minimum and irreducible tests you must pass and minimum amounts of training flights you must succeed at. That is why the argument fails. It's an area of specific expertise.

But I will give a more detailed response after you address the quote you quoted me on and raised context on.

I mentioned what he said on Civil Rights and you diverted to pilots.

Pls address what I was addressing.

I hope you are not being escapist or diversionary.

basilico:
The context is if United Airlines had not said they will increase their women and black quota of pilots from less than10% to 50% or so.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl3UwsNZ544?si=_yINuu-7tJwotXxR

Would you also fly . You know how DEI has been pushed by liberals , including hiring a known plagiarist the as Harvard President.

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Hang on a second. You seem to be defending the pilot statement when you quoted me with regard to the statement on the Civil Rights Movement/ Act.

Get your act together pls.

cococandy:
Something smells fishy. Like Trump’s magic ear

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Babanla magic ear.

In decades and centuries to come, books, documentaries and movies will be made about these magical events and much will be revealed with time.

I never trusted that event for one second.

bemeruca:
Budaatum, deepsight, look at the common sense I was trying to share with you guys. At least Budaatum got some of it. As for deepsight, it's a opeless effort 😂😂

Now, I don't agree with every thing she says.

Did Independence come too early? 🇳🇬 vs 🇳🇦

Namibia stayed colonized until 1990. Nigeria left in 1960. Today, Namibia's roads are world-class while our hospitals are in darkness. What can we say about Colonialism in the Africa? 🍋 pic.twitter.com/JE1zC3ciE9

— Oloma Juice 🍋 (@islemonjuice) March 30, 2026

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Pls be so kind as to answer these for me -

1. Is it your view that black people were better off in the states before the Civil Rights Movement?

2. Is it your view that the Civil Rights Act (and Voting Rights Act) were mistakes?

3. Is it your view that black people are better off on account of slavery?

3. Is it your view that apartheid in South Africa was good?

budaatum:
My gender is really irrelevant to whatever I have to say, and I don't want it to be focussed on and what I have to say be missed.

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It's very rare for a Nairalanders gender to become an issue on this board. The only other person I can remember in similar terms was a poster called pilgrim1 who many alleged was viaro. Okay there was also one mavenbox/inesqor. Many years ago.

Personally I think you are the one making it an issue especially with statements such as saying you go by "they/them." We are not unenlightened, everyone knows what that suggests.

My father spent a lot of money on Rosicrucian, and my mother is displeased because of it. I don't feel he derived much from it neither, as he got lost in the mystical aspect and missed the understanding.

I love their books though, as they are food for the mind, as in they make one wonder. But then you must have gathered that atheist me loves my Bible too, and my Quran and Aesop and books in general. Sadly, I can't read as much as I used to for some reason.

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I was rather hoping you would comment on the truth of their teachings. I found a lot of truth in the teachings of the Rosicrucian Order and even in those of Eckankar.

My understanding of religious texts has been described as spiritual by some and devil worship by many. It is an integral core of Buddhism and most religions, and is even in philosophies, if one perceives that way.

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What do you mean by the bold. Are you saying that core Buddhism is closest to your belief system, coupled with the essentials of most religions splashed with philosophy?

First, "believe" means (to me), I don't know and have chosen to accept as true things I have no evidence for and likely have evidence against (since I will seek).

Fortunately, I have seen many die, by virtue of my connection to hospitals and the fact I know lots of old people. Everyone I know who has died has been put in a box and buried in the ground or been cremated, and none of them have lived after dying, so I see no reason to create crap in my own head and then believe in the crap I create in my head.

No, I do not believe people or their souls live after they have died. That said, I do often have long live seeming discussions with a friend of mine who is long dead. They often start as dreams, and have sometimes continued after I have fully woken up. We lived together for years and are immensely missed by me. Our discussions seem like they live, though I know they do not.

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So you really think the physical body is all there is to us? That would be odd for one given to so much mysticism.

By God, I presume you mean Yahweh (Allah).

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How could you have interacted with me so long on this board and make this disastrous presumption? Of course not, and I do not think of those entities as God. Though I do not begrudge those who have the creator in mind when they speak those names.

I am asking you about a necessary uncaused cause of all other existence.

basilico:
You conveniently ignore full context of someone's statement, quote only a part then conclude.Then as a typical liberal you want us to gree with you without questions.

What if I say this.

(Most of the mess that Trump is trying to clean up was caused by Obama.

Next I hate the whites ,those liberals who put him in office.)

If you ignore my first sentence and quote "I hate the whites" only , the meaning becomes totally different.
Hatred shouldn't make you look for words in a sentence while ignoring full context

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Pls provide the context for Kirk's statement which changes the meaning or justifies it.

tctrills:
Your last paragraph is just dishonest and wicked.
I advise you to be intellectually honest or at least spend a minute or two to study before speaking.

First, point to your evidence that the present administration is doing anything to erase the history of slavery. You just made a very big claim, if you are a responsible person, you will now back it up with real evidence.

Again, the entire premise of your argument is false and I reject it for the following reasons.

1. The US has done more than any other nation to tell it's slavery history.
More books have been written, more movies made and more information is out there about the US slavery than any other country that had legalized slavery in the nineteenth century.

2. Brazil had far more slaves than the US, please how much do you know about slavery in Brazil?

3. You know so much about the plantations in the south, you can tell everything about the life of a slave Mississippi but what do you know about the life of a slave in the Benin, to or Kano empires?

4. Not only did the Arabs/ eastern world have more black slaves than the West, the west kept a better history of it's slaves than the Arabs.

5. It seems that the only people not hiding their history of slavery is the United States.

One last thing, you spoke about institutional racism. Please can you mention 2 institutions in US to 2026 that promote racism towards the blacks.

Let's learn to be intellectually honest my brother.

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You must be living under a rock. You obviously have not been following the news since Trump resumed. No point.

budaatum:
Actually, I don't particularly identify as any gender or non-binary. I'm just budaatum.

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Is there any particular reason then that you are keeping it some sort of secret. Because I have come across this question from time to time where people insist you are a woman whereas I always imagined you male.

Not that it's an issue, but it's good to be clear.

No, I haven't. I've read many books on the subject however because dad was a Rosicrucian and ma hates the fact her money was spent on it.

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Now a while ago triplechoice had made a thread making issues about this. Not sure how that ended. But pray tell, since you appear well schooled in the doctrines of AMORC, what is your impression of their teachings.

I ask because I was once very close to signing up with them in my youth.

And I'd like to believe I am awake.

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What does wakefulness in this regard mean to you and do you think there is spirituality to life.

Do you believe in life after death and a soul as distinct from the body.

I use small g to denote gods in general.

Yes, I believe there must have been a "causative factor for all other existent elements or things", as it is my opinion that something must have existed for there to cause a big bang (if there ever was one). It could have been an increase in pressure for instance, but we wouldn't necessarily say pressure created a big bang since something caused the increase in pressure in the first place, and I wouldn't call it a god.

For the curious, this began here.

https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-47th/5851#138941496

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What stops you from seeing that ultimate cause as God.

IjeBos:
Benalvino3 has said similar things himself.
For one, he believes the world was better off in the 60's.
Also believes slavery was a good thing for black Americans.
And I think Raumdeuter has walked up to that line(may have said similar but can't be 100% sure so don't want to put that on him).

It's that still colonized mind and self-hate.

IjeBos:
You can search up the discussion or ask him, he may just admit it.

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Benalvino3 can you confirm that you have said these things.

IjeBos:
Do you live in a black hole?
It is not even a debatable thing that this Trump administration is trying to erase they history pertaining to slavery.

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I tire oh.
Or under a rock.

tctrills:
Your point is that because there are no plantations left, the right is deleting history?
This is just finding issues where there are none.
Slavery is taught sufficiently in schools in the US. Just because there are no plantations left, would we now pretend that the history of slavery is being erased.

I truly don't understand what you are complaining about here.

You are fighting for plantations to be brought back because you feel the history of slavery is being forgotten?

Anyway, let's come back home to where the history of slavery is being forgotten.

My great great grand father like many others in his time had slaves, with the exception of Badagry we don't see any monuments. Every town and city in ancient Nigeria practiced slavery, how many monuments are there? I don't see any in Mbise, Egba, Kano, or kogi.

I was never taught about black on black slavery in school. So who is erasing history?

Moral of the story, charity begins at home.

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That was not me. That was what I have been asking you to read. It was written by GloriousGbola.

I hope you learnt a thing or two.

The history of slavery is deep in the USA and it still lives in many forms, it became Jim Crowe, It became segregation, it became many things and today it lives as institutional racism which you have denied exists. You know nothing.

The present administration in the US is trying hard to erase the history and pretend the reality does not exist.

budaatum:
Are you disregarding the fact that you are the one who resurrected "your Rosicrucian/Rossí religion" here Spencer?

I have the feeling Deepsight was not even aware of that thread until you resurrected it here, but I'll let him tell you himself.

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Ignore him. If he was serious the slightest review of any of the profiles or posts of the discussants here would sort him out.

budaatum:
Sorry SpencerForbes, but I must confess that this is the first thread I've come across created by Deepsight with budaatum in the topic. I went through the 223 topics created by Deepsight and could not find a single one referencing budaatum'.

I'd appreciate if you direct me to the ones you've "lost count of how many times you’ve created this exact same thread", please.

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First time I am creating a thread with you in focus. Over the years, I have conducted similar interviews with many different Nairalanders as focus.

Ignore him. He is lying.

tctrills:
You know me, I have never been lazy to read any of your write-ups, so get that out of the way.

I put effort to ensure I don't send you nonsense, I deserve the same.

The first paragraph began with falsehoods, to me, it lost it's value from the first minute.

If you want people to read your articles, begin with the truth.

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"Erase enough history and people can be deceived that slavery was a choice.

As an uninformed black man in Africa, one would find it hard to believe that America deliberately flooded housing projects with drugs or attacked black wall street or lynched young boys or used black men in syphilis studies.

This is the world they want to create where the evil did not happen.

Germany has left monuments to the Holocaust standing so it cannot be denied. But are there any plantations left standing? No. Rather the south has lionised different slave owners as civil war heroes

As an aside I read JT Edson books as a child and even then I could see there was something off about them. Eventually I saw them for what they are apologist books glorifying the south. In one of them a black dude said he was better off as a slave. Then you have stories like the hooded riders which are a naked celebration of the KKK. but a person who had no knowledge of slavery would not see the insidious white washing of the deep south and their practices."
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The above is all i wanted you to read.

Kennyfancy:
Lol, nah Spain go lose Las las, becos you will need the 🇺🇸 soon and then 🇺🇸 will ask for so many things and that same time some of you will start shouting they want to take over Spain resources

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The lunatic in the whitehouse will be gone before Spain needs them for anything.

Emu4life:
Spain don see US finish
The Spanish have refused to be cowards and have seen US for the World Distablizers that they are.
Unlike the other cowardly EU members.

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Really delighted with Spain. God bless their integrity and courage.

Xxxxxxx

SpencerForbes:
Budaatum is deepsight and deepsight is budaatum🤔 I’m convinced…..

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Lol.

On your own. Far from it.

duality:
Go and research about election rigging and write.


I'm not interested in any election discussions in Nigeria, that's not interested in how to tackle rigging.

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Rigging is one thing. But I don't know if BAT will actually rigg in the sense of rigging at the polling units.

For me, I just know that it is almost impossible for an INEC Chairman appointed by BAT to announce anyone else apart from him as the winner and it is also almost impossible for any court or judge in this country to say he did not win.

This will be the case even if he is the only one who votes for himself.

The only likely escape may come from very potent international pressure of the kind that ties his hands.

cococandy:
Oh they absolutely did.

That’s when I knew they were gone inside

No fixing that or wasting time convincing

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Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

tctrills:
Oga please, I believe you know that I respect you. Don't recommend foolish people's write-ups to me.

Once the opening began with falsehoods, there was no need to proceed.

Please mention how many museums in America that have been closed by right leaning governments.

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Don't be lazy. It's extremely short. It's not even article length. Read it, you might learn something. Even if all you learn is how to critic it better.

For such a short few paragraphs it will not hurt you. Also you might find that there is more there than you think.

You are acting closed minded and escapist.

And oh, I don't know that you respect me, but know that that is of no consequence.

ono:
DeepSight, I warned you. Anyways over to you o, ehen, oya, respond o o!

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https://www.nairaland.com/8644889/demystification-budaatum-interview

tctrills:
I only read the first paragraph and I knew your guy is very unserious.
There are almost 30 republican led states in the US, please ask your guy to mention how many have erased museums or history.

I saw no need to read any further. Please stop recommending dumb write-ups to me.
Whenever I recommend stuff to you, I double check so I don't waste your time. Please apply the same.

Thanks.

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Read everything. Its a short write up. Very short.

triplechoice:
Soul is cause, not effect

Soul is one with that from which it is made. Soul and spirit, personified as God in religion, described as ", pure energy" in the sciences, are one and the same.

So collectively, we are the cause of everything we set into motion from the beginning. There is no cause outside spirit, and the same applies to soul, which we are

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This is a non-dualist view, akin to pantheism, panentheism and monism. It also rhymes with the Hindu school of Advaita Vedanta.

I find it hugely escapist on the matter of freewill though, because it more or less says that we are responsible for everything, probably even the creation of the universe.

helinues:
If states can now generate their own electricity, why are the likes of Macaroni still blaming the president when he could have shifted his anger on the state governor he's residing

Otti over the weekend said he's taking Abia off National grid, something all the governors could have done since the bill was passed

All blames must go to the presidency

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But the security apparatus is still completely in the hands of the FG.

budaatum:
You ought to take this to a thread for it, Deep. You stand a better chance out of this thread.


buda is both male and female. Their pronouns are they and them.


No I don't belong to any sect/religious or mystical movement whatsoever, and never have, but some will tell you otherwise based on their perception of the evidence.


Trust you to see deep. Yes, it does refer to Atum, the first Egyptian deity. It is inspired by the depth of my knowledge and understanding of deities. And Buddhism, a 'philosophy' I explored for a long while.


No, I would not say I don't believe, because the word 'believe' implies one does not know. And yes, I am an atheist. An atheist who knows that all gods are human creations.

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https://www.nairaland.com/8644889/demystification-budaatum-interview

Alright Budaatum. So this is an interview.

budaatum:
You ought to take this to a thread for it, Deep. You stand a better chance out of this thread.

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Right. So here goes.

buda is both male and female. Their pronouns are they and them.

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So you identify as non-binary?

Are you willing to say if you were born biologically male or female?

No I don't belong to any sect/religious or mystical movement whatsoever, and never have, but some will tell you otherwise based on their perception of the evidence.

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Have you belonged to any in the past?

Trust you to see deep. Yes, it does refer to Atum, the first Egyptian deity. It is inspired by the depth of my knowledge and understanding of deities. And Buddhism, a 'philosophy' I explored for a long while.

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I said "awakened" as a reference to Buddhism. A Buddha is an awakened one.

No, I would not say I don't believe, because the word 'believe' implies one does not know. And yes, I am an atheist. An atheist who knows that all gods are human creations.

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Why do you use the small "g" and do you believe that there is a source or root or causative factor for all other existent elements or things.

Tctrills, celebrate.

triplechoice:
The question you asked assumes that a smaller range of choices translate to less free will. But free will is not measured or determined by the breath of options, but by the capacity to choose within the options that exist, and the ability to find meaning within those choices

From a spiritual point of view, free will operates at a level deeper than the physical body . The body, whether that of genius or a person with Down syndrome, is seen as carefully chosen vehicle for a specific journey of growth

This perspective , an unpopular one, suggests that the soul, prior to birth, chooses its physical form with its genetic makeup, and even its specific life challenges

So from this , a condition like Down syndrome is not a punishment or an accident. It is a specific set of constraints chosen by a courageous soul to learn a particular lesson, perhaps about patience, unconditional love, or the nature of identity beyond intellect

If we reject the spiritual angle, and choose to consider it from a practical day to day perspective we still find that free will is not absent in a person with Down syndrome. It is there but expressed differently A person with Down syndrome may not have the same intellectual choices as a genius, but they have a profound choice in other areas like how to respond to affection, how to express joy, what to learn with their abilities, and what attitude to take towards their circumstances, choices that even a genius may struggle to make.

The real limitation of free will is not Down syndrome or any othe similar r health challenge, , it is the ego's identification with the body alone. Once we come to the realisation we are not the body, the choice of that body is seen as the greatest freedom of all.

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Well the real reason that freewill is very suspect is that every single thing from before the universe existed operates on some cause and effect and once this is true then there has been a line of causality from the beginning of the universe right down to the formation of the Earth, the evolution of creatures, the coming of humans and your parents and right down to the sort of person you would be, the brain you would have, the genetics you would have, where you would be born and all of these govern the choices you would make.

IjeBos:
Benalvino3 has said similar things himself.
For one, he believes the world was better off in the 60's.
Also believes slavery was a good thing for black Americans.
And I think Raumdeuter has walked up to that line(may have said similar but can't be 100% sure so don't want to put that on him).

It's that still colonized mind and self-hate.

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Really?

Good grief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WyuwIggYEw

If the leaders of the ADC stick together and dont splinter after a flagbearer emerges, they just might stand a slight chance.

AMINDA:
APC had 21 governors in 2023 but Tinubu only won 12 states. Of those twelve, only 6 were APC-governed states. Why didn't all 21 governors deliver their states? Even a combination of Sanwo-olu, Gbajabiamila, Obasa, Fashola, Ambode and Tinubu himself failed to deliver Lagos. Can you tell us why?

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GBAM!

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A lie from the pit of hell.