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Politics › Re: Another Bomb Blast In Maiduguri by dejyx: 12:35am On Jul 07, 2011
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=707346.msg8662959#msg8662959 date=1309963082]Do you agree or disagree with the main point of my post that the  JTF sent to the region is unprepared to fight the kind of battle they are confronted with? Lets not turn this into another tribal war.  Even if the picture posted is from the Abuja blast, does that change the fact that the same group is responsible for it? olodo[/quote]I dont think the JTF is incapable. From my Jos experience I notice that there is a way Nigerian Government allow these Malo Bastards Operate. You will notice that even if the slaughterers are caught in hundreds here in Jos they are taken to Abuja where they will be freed.  If JTF are serious they will arrest the situation.  The commander in Chief of the Armed Forces should give orders to exterminate the bastards and thats all.  

Who are boko haram compared to Nigerian Army.  A bunch of Almajiris cant hold this nation to ransome.  GEJ is following the notherners to play politics and he is playing politics with peoples lifes.   GEJ by now will even know who is sponsoring all these people, or do you think an Almajiri can afford bombs. These poeople sponsoring these attacks are politicians men in high places and even their religous leaders.

To all the major Karwa (Ashie) patronizers, Almajiris (Bastards) , Dan Dowdus (gays), Butha (rubber kettle) beer Drinkers, Slaughterers/Murderers, Yan Kaura (gangsters), Kwaya/wiwi takers Malos that partake in and support all this may the Blood of the innocent people you have shed in the name of the God you fight for haunt you Haunt your childrens children.  These terrorists, their sponsors and their supporters will never see peace in their lives.  What ever these people venture into will end up in disaster. May they continue to have the highest rates of polio, infant motality, diabetes, HIV, Malaria, child death disabilty, hunch backs, leprosy, cholera, ilitracey vvf and  poverty. may they continue to be the highest patronizers of drugs in nigeria, may all thier trucks continue to break down and tumble over in their journeys may all thier tankers end up in flames.

We are fed up with these people. It is high time we say enough is enough.  What pains me the most is that you find some of the idiots on Nairaland supporting all these things openly and even comparing Boko haram and Mend.  It is high time we Nigerians begin to reign curses on the idiots since we cant go and kill all the boko haramists and the soldiers are slow in carrying out their duties.
Islam › Re: Sanusi Warns Muslims Against Joining Issues With Christians by dejyx: 3:38am On Jul 06, 2011
These guys hate democracy because it is American. If you read this link below you will catch where these Malo guys are coming from.

Psa 140:11  Let not an evil speaker be established in the earth: evil shall hunt the violent man to overthrow him.

"America is where it is because its foundational faith was Christianity.

Biblical morality and the Ten Commandments work.

Compassion, unselfishness, responsibility, fidelity, strong work ethic, honesty, determination and a sense of interdependence are all Biblical principles of proven worth.

I challenge you to check it out.

In God we trust. It works!" - Ross L Talbot

Culled from - http://www.postindependent.com/article/20100906/VALLEYNEWS/100909922

"Sharia will die a natural death" - OBJ True or False did it die?

Islamic Banking will die a natural death too.  Pro 11:19  As righteousness tendeth to life: so he that pursueth evil pursueth it to his own death.

Don't worry my brothers it is well.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Worst Things To Put On Your Resume by dejyx: 11:39am On Jul 03, 2011
What do you guys think about RELIGION.

I didnt have religion on my CV when I sent my CV for a certain job opening, surprisingly I received a call from an insider of the firm asking me whether I was a christian or a muslim. He asked because my surname sounded muslim. I had no other option than to include my religion on my CV and my Baptismal name and resend. I guess that firm has something against muslims, well I dont feel it should be so any way.

Just wondering what you guys feel.
NYSC › Re: Guys Posted To Boko Haram States On Nysc - Please Register Here For Network. by dejyx: 7:28pm On Jul 01, 2011
My problem with this country is that we don't have regards for human life.

NYSC should have a rethink.
Islam › Re: Why Is It That Islamic Religion Is Link With Violence And Terror. by dejyx: 4:13pm On Jun 28, 2011
divinereal:
TheReligionofPeace.com Presents:

Games Muslims Play



Given Islam's violent history and the unfavorable contrast of its oppressive practices against 21st century values, Muslims are hard-pressed to repackage their faith in the modern age.  Some of its leading apologists have come to rely on tricks involving semantics and half-truths that are, in turn, repeated by novices and even those outside the faith.

This is a document (which we hope to improve on and expand over time) that exposes some of these games and helps truth-seekers find their way through the maze of disingenuous (often blatantly false) claims about Islam and its history.  



“If Islam were a violent religion, then all Muslims would be violent.”

“Other religions kill, too.”

Muhammad preached 'no compulsion in religion' (Qur'an: 2:256)

The Crusades

“Muhammad never killed anyone.”

The Qur'an Teaches that all Life is Sacred (Qur'an 5:32)

"Muslims only kill in self-defense.”

The million dollar wager that "Holy War" isn't in the Qur'an.

"Verses of violence are taken out of context."

"Islam must be true, because it is the world’s fastest growing religion."

"The Qur'an can only be understood in Arabic."






“If Islam were a violent religion, then all Muslims would be violent.”

The Muslim Game:

Most Muslims live peacefully, without harming others, so how can Islam be a violent religion?  If Islam were the religion of terrorists, then why aren’t most Muslims terrorists?

The Truth:

The same question can easily be turned around.  If Islam is a religion of peace, then why is it the only one that consistently produces religiously-motivated terrorist attacks each and every day of the year?  Why are thousands of people willing and able to cut off an innocent person’s head or fly a plane into a building while screaming praises to Allah?  Where’s the outrage among other Muslims when this happens… and why do they get more worked up over cartoons and hijabs?

Rather than trying to answer a question with a question, however, let's just say that the reason why most Muslims don't kill is that (regardless of what Islam may or may not teach) it's wrong to kill over religion.

Consider that many Muslims would not even think of amputating a thief's hand.  Does this mean that it is against Islam to do so?  Of course not!  In fact, this mandate is clearly found in one of the last verses in the Qur'an (5:38) and in the example of Muhammad according to the Hadith (Bukhari 81:792).

Muslims may believe whatever they want to about what Islam says or doesn't say, but it doesn't change what Islam says about itself.  As an ideology, it exists independently of anyone's opinion.   As such, it may be studied objectively and apart from how anyone else practices or chooses to interprets it.


The Qur'an plainly teaches that it is not just proper to kill in the name of Allah in certain circumstances, but that it is actually a requirement.  Muslims who don't believe in killing over religion may be that way out of ignorance or because they are more loyal to the moral law written in their hearts than they are to the details of Muhammad’s religion.  Those who put Islam first or know Islam best know otherwise.


In fact, few Muslims have ever read the Qur'an to any extent, much less pursued an honest investigation of the actual words and deeds of Muhammad, which were more in line with hedonism, deception, power and violence than with moral restraint.  The harsh rules that Muslim countries impose on free speech to protect Islam from critique also prevent it from being fully understood.  In the West, many Muslims, devout or otherwise, simply prefer to believe that Islam is aligned with the Judeo-Christian principles of peace and tolerance, even if it means filtering evidence to the contrary.


It is no coincidence, however, that the purists of the faith – those most prone to abandoning themselves to Islam without moral preconception – are always the more dangerous and supremacist-minded.  They may be called ‘extremists’ or ‘fundamentalists,’ but, at the end of the day, they are also the more literal and dedicated to the Qur’an and following the path of Jihad as mandated by Muhammad.



“Other religions kill, too.”

The Muslim Game:

Bringing other religions down to the level of Islam is one of the most popular strategies of Muslim apologists when confronted with the spectacle of Islamic violence.  Remember Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber?  Why pick on Islam if other religions have the same problems?


The Truth:

Because they don’t.  

Regardless of what his birth certificate may or may not have said, Timothy McVeigh was not a religious man (in fact, he stated explicitly that he was agnostic).  At no time did he credit his deeds to religion, quote Bible verses, or claim that he killed for Jesus.  His motives are very well documented through interviews and research.  God is never mentioned.

The so-called “members of other faiths” alluded to by Muslims are nearly always just nominal members who have no active involvement.  They are neither inspired by, nor do they credit religion as Muslim terrorists do - and this is what makes it a very different matter.  

Islam is associated with Islamic terrorism because that is the association that the terrorists themselves choose to make.

Muslims who compare crime committed by people who happen to be nominal members of other religions to religious terror committed explicitly in the name of Islam are comparing apples to oranges.

Yes, some of the abortion clinic bombers were religious (as Muslims enjoy pointing out), but consider the scope of the problem.  There have been six deadly attacks over a 36 year period in the U.S.  Eight people died.  This is an average of one death every 4.5 years.

By contrast, Islamic terrorists staged nearly ten thousand deadly attacks in just the six years following September 11th, 2001.  If one goes back to 1971, when Muslim armies in Bangladesh began the mass slaughter of Hindus, through the years of Jihad in the Sudan, Kashmir and Algeria, and the present-day Sunni-Shia violence in Iraq, the number of innocents killed in the name of Islam probably exceeds five million over this same period.

In the last six years, there have been perhaps a dozen or so religiously-inspired killings by people of all other faiths combined.  No other religion produces the killing sprees that Islam does nearly every day of the year.  Neither do they have verses in their holy texts that arguably support it.  Nor do they have large groups across the globe dedicated to the mass murder of people who worship a different god, as the broader community of believers struggles with ambivalence and tolerance for a radical clergy that supports the terror.

Muslims may like to pretend that other religions are just as subject to "misinterpretation" as is their “perfect” one, but the reality speaks of something far worse.



Muhammad preached “No compulsion in religion.”
(Qur’an, Verse 2:256)

The Muslim Game:

Muslims quote verse 2:256 from the Qur’an to prove what a tolerant religion Islam is.  The verse reads in part, “Let there be no compulsion in religion; truth stands out clearly from error…”

The Truth:

The Muslim who offers this verse may or may not understand that it is from one of the earliest Suras (or chapters) from the Medinan period.  It was “revealed” at a time when the Muslims had just arrived in Medina after being chased out of Mecca.  They needed to stay in the good graces of the stronger tribes around them, many of which were Jewish.  It was around this time, for example, that Muhammad decided to have his followers change the direction of their prayer from Mecca to Jerusalem.

But Muslims today pray toward Mecca.  The reason for this is that Muhammad issued a later command that abrogated (or nullified) the first.  In fact, abrogation is a very important principle to keep in mind when interpreting the Qur’an – and verse 2:256 in particular – because later verses (in chronological terms) are said to abrogate any earlier ones that may be in contradiction (Qur'an 2:106, 16:101).

Muhammad’s message was far closer to peace and tolerance during his early years at Mecca, when he didn’t have an army and was trying to pattern his new religion after Christianity.  This changed dramatically after he attained the power to conquer, which he eventually used with impunity to bring other tribes into the Muslim fold.  Contrast verse 2:256 with Suras 9 and 5, which were the last “revealed,” and it is easy to see why Islam has been anything but a religion of peace from the time of Muhammad to the present day.

There is some evidence that verse 2:256 may not have been intended for Muslims at all, but is instead meant to be a warning to other religions concerning their treatment of Muslims.  Verse 193 of the same Sura instructs Muslims to "fight with them (non-Muslims) until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah."  This reinforces the narcissistic nature of Islam, which places Muslims above non-Muslims, and applies a very different value and standard of treatment to both groups.

Though most Muslims today reject the practice of outright forcing others into changing their religion, forced conversion has been a part of Islamic history since Muhammad first picked up a sword.  As he is recorded in many places as saying, "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, "  (See Bukhari 2:24)


Muhammad put his words into practice.  When he marched into Mecca with an army, one of his very first tasks was to destroy idols at the Kaaba, which had been devoutly worshipped by the Arabs for centuries.  By eliminating these objects of worship, he destroyed the religion of the people and supplanted it with his own.  Later, he ordered that Jews and Christians who would not convert to Islam be expelled from Arabia.  Does forcing others to choose between their homes or their faith sound like "no compulsion in religion?"

According to Muslim historians, Muhammad eventually ordered people to attend prayers at the mosque to the point of burning alive those who didn't comply.  He also ordered that children who reached a certain age be beaten if they refused to pray.

Interestingly, even the same Muslims of today who quote 2:256 usually believe in Islamic teachings that sound very much like religious compulsion.  These would be the laws punishing apostasy by death (or imprisonment, for females), and the institutionalized discrimination against religious minorities under Islamic rule that is sometimes referred to as “dhimmiitude.”  


Islamic law explicitly prohibits non-Muslims from sharing their faith and even includes the extortion of money from them in the form of a tax called the jizya.  Those who refuse to pay this arbitrary amount are put to death.  If this isn’t compulsion, then what is?




The Crusades


The Muslim Game:

Muslims love talking about the Crusades… and Christians love apologizing for them.  To hear both parties tell the story, one would believe that Muslims were just peacefully minding their own business in lands that were legitimately Muslim when Christian armies decided to wage holy war and "kill millions.”


The Truth:

Every part of this myth is a lie.  By the rules that Muslims claim for themselves, the Crusades were perfectly justified, and the excesses (though beneath Christian standards) pale in comparison with the historical treatment of conquered populations at the hands of Muslims.


Here are some quick facts…

[b]The first Crusade began in 1095… 460 years after the first Christian city was overrun by Muslim armies, 457 years after Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies, 453 years after Egypt was taken by Muslim armies, 443 after Muslims first plundered Italy, 427 years after Muslim armies first laid siege to the Christian capital of Constantinople, 380 years after Spain was conquered by Muslim armies, 363 years after France was first attacked by Muslim armies, 249 years after the capital of the Christian world, Rome itself, was sacked by a Muslim army, and only after centuries of church burnings, killings, enslavement and forced conversions of Christians.

By the time the Crusades finally began, Muslim armies had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world.  

Europe had been harassed by Muslims since the first few years following Muhammad’s death.  As early as 652, Muhammad’s followers launched raids on the island of Sicily, waging a full-scale occupation 200 years later that lasted almost a century and was punctuated by massacres, such as that at the town of Castrogiovanni, in which 8,000 Christians were put to death.  In 1084, ten years before the first crusade, Muslims staged another devastating Sicilian raid, burning churches in Reggio, enslaving monks and Desecrating an abbey of nuns before carrying them into captivity. [/b]

[b]In 1095, Byzantine Emperor, Alexius I Comneus began begging the pope in Rome for help in turning back the Muslim armies which were overrunning what is now Turkey, grabbing property as they went and turning churches into mosques.   Several hundred thousand Christians had been killed in Anatolia alone in the decades following 1050 by Seljuk invaders interested in 'converting' the survivors to Islam.

Not only were Christians losing their lives in their own lands to the Muslim advance but pilgrims to the Holy Land from other parts of Europe were being harassed, kidnapped, molested, forcibly converted to Islam and occasionally murdered.  (Compare this to Islam’s justification for slaughter on the basis of Muslims being denied access to the Meccan pilgrimage in Muhammad’s time).

The Crusaders only invaded lands that were Christian.  They did not attack Saudi Arabia (other than a half-hearted expedition by a minor figure) or sack Mecca as the Muslims had done (and continued doing) to Italy and Constantinople.  Their primary goal was the recapture of Jerusalem and the security of safe passage for pilgrims.  The toppling of the Muslim empire was not on the agenda.

The period of Crusader “occupation” (of its own former land) was stretched tenuously over about 170 years, which is less than the Muslim occupation of Sicily and southern Italy alone - to say nothing of Spain and other lands that had never been Islamic before falling victim to Jihad.  In fact, the Arab occupation of North Africa and Middle Eastern lands outside of Arabia is almost 1400 years old.

Despite popular depiction, the Crusades were not a titanic battle between Christianity and Islam.  Although originally dispatched by papal decree, the "occupiers" quickly became part of the political and economic fabric of the Middle East without much regard for religious differences.  Their arrival was largely accepted by the local population as simply another change in authority.  Muslim radicals even lamented the fact that many of their co-religionists preferred to live under Frankish (Christian) rule than migrate to Muslim lands.[/b]


The Islamic world was split into warring factions, many of which allied themselves with the Frankish princes against each other at one time or another.  This even included Saladin, the Kurdish warrior who is credited with eventually ousting the "Crusaders."  Contrary to recent propaganda, however, Saladin had little interest in holy war until a rogue Frankish prince began disrupting his trade routes.  Both before and after the taking of Jerusalem, his armies spent far more time and resources battling fellow Muslims.
For its part, the Byzantine (Eastern Christian) Empire preferred to have little to do with the Crusader kingdoms and went so far as to sign treaties with their Muslim rivals on occasion.

Another misconception is that the Crusader era was a time of constant war.  In fact, very little of this overall period included significant hostilities.  In response to Muslim expansion or aggression, there were only about 20 years of actual military campaigning, much of which was spent on organization and travel.  (They were from 1098-1099, 1146-1148, 1188-1192, 1201-1204, 1218-1221, 1228-1229, and 1248-1250).  By comparison, the Muslim Jihad against the island of Sicily alone lasted 75 grinding years.

Ironically, the Crusades are justified by the Quran itself, which encourages Holy War in order to "drive them out of the places from whence they drove you out" (2:191), even though the aim wasn't to expel Muslims from the Middle East, but more to bring an end to the molestation of pilgrims.  Holy war is not justified by New Testament teachings, which is why the Crusades are an anomaly, the brief interruption of centuries of relentless Jihad against Christianity that began long before and continued well after.  

The greatest crime of the Crusaders was the sacking of Jerusalem, in which at least 3,000 people were said to have been massacred.  This number is dwarfed by the number of Jihad victims, from India to Constantinople, Africa and Narbonne, but Muslims have never apologized for their crimes and never will.  

What is called 'sin and excess' by other religions, is what Islam refers to as duty willed by Allah.



"Muhammad never killed anyone.”

The Muslim Game:

In order to give others the impression that Muhammad was a man of peace, Muslims sometimes claim that he never killed anyone.  By this, they mean that he never slew anyone with his own hand (except in battle… which they may or may not remember to mention).  

The Truth:

[b]By this logic, Hitler never killed anyone either.

Obviously, if you order the execution of prisoners or the murder of critics by those who are under your command, then you are at least as guilty as those who carry out your orders.  In Muhammad’s case, the number of people that he had murdered were literally too many for historians to fully know.  

There were the men taken prisoner at Badr (including one who cried out for his children at the point of execution), a mother of five (stabbed to death for questioning Muhammad’s claim to be a prophet), dozens of Jewish citizens, including poets and merchants who were accused of mocking Islam, numerous adulterers, at least one slave girl, 800 Qurayza men and boys taken captive and beheaded on Muhammad’s order, a Qurayza woman made delirious by the execution of her family, and an unfortunate individual who was tortured to death so that the prophet of Islam could discover his hidden treasure and then “marry” his freshly-widowed wife.

Indirectly, Muhammad is also responsible for the millions upon millions of people who have been slaughtered down through the centuries by those carrying on his legacy of Jihad.  Not only did he kill, he is truly one of the bloodiest figures in history.[/b]


[b]“The Qur’an Teaches that all Life is Sacred”
(Qur’an, Verse 5:32)

The Muslim Game:

Many Westerners prefer to believe that all religion is either equally bad or equally good, and eagerly devour anything that seems to support this preconception.  The myth usually works to Islam’s advantage as well, since it either raises it to the level of others, or brings the others down to it.  To compete with Western religion, Muslims vigorously employ verse 5:32, which is the closest thing they have to the Old Testament command of ‘Thou shalt not kill.”  

It reads, in part:

"…if any one slew a person… it would be as if he slew a whole people; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of a whole people…"
(As quoted by the Fiqh Council of North America in their ultimately meaningless “Fatwa against Terrorism”)

The Truth:

This fragment of verse 5:32 is what Muslim apologists want non-Muslims to believe is in the Qur’an, rather than the dozens of other open-ended passages that command warfare, beheadings and torture.  But even what they usually quote from 5:32 isn’t quite how it appears.  Remember all those ellipses?  There's something being left out.

Here’s the full text of the verse:

“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”
First, notice the gaping loophole.  Killing is allowed in cases of murder or “for spreading mischief in the land.”  Murder is pretty straightforward, but “spreading mischief?”  If anything begged for a careful and precise explanation, this phrase certainly would.  But generations of Muslims are left to apply their own interpretation of what “mischief” means - with varying standards.  [/b]

Secondly, note the broader context of this verse.  It turns out that this isn’t a command to Muslims after all.  It’s a recounting of a rule that was handed down to the Jews.  It isn’t an admonition against killing.  It’s an indictment against the Jews for violating the law given to them.  “Any one” doesn’t mean “anyone,” but rather “any one” of the Jews.

Rather than encouraging tolerance, Sura 5 as a whole is actually an incitement of hatred with a hint of violence.  Jews and Christians are explicitly cursed as ‘wicked’ people with ‘diseased hearts’ and as hateful ‘blasphemers’ respectively.  Muhammad goes on to coyly remind his people that Allah loves those who “fight” in his service - and it’s fairly obvious who the enemy is.

Muslims also conveniently leave out the fact that the gruesome verse which follows 5:32 actually mandates killing in the case of the aforementioned “mischief”.  It even suggests crucifixion and “the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.”  

Together, verses 5:32-33 actually provide the basis for blasphemy laws, in which people are executed for insulting or questioning Islam.  Ironically then, the very part of the Quran that apologists use to portray Islam as a non-violent religion has long been used as a justification for putting people to death for verbal crimes.

With this being the best that Islam has to offer, it’s not hard to guess why the religion contributes over a thousand deadly terrorist attacks to the world each and every year.



[b]“Muslims only kill in self-defense.”

The Muslim Game:

Muslims often claim that their religion only orders them to kill in self-defense (ie. when their own lives are in danger).

The Truth:

In fact, self-defense is just one of several conditions under which Muslims are permitted to take the lives of others.  The myth of killing only in self-defense is easily disproved from the accounts of Muhammad’s own life as recorded in Islam’s sacred texts (with which Muslim terrorists are only too familiar).

Muhammad’s career of killing began with raids on merchant caravans traveling between Syria and Mecca.  His men would usually sneak up on unsuspecting drivers and kill those who defended their goods.  There was no self-defense involved here at all (on the part of the Muslims, at least).  This was old-fashioned armed robbery and murder – sanctioned by Allah (according to Muhammad, who also demanded a fifth of the loot for himself).

The very first battle that Muhammad fought was at Badr, when a Meccan army of 300 was sent out to protect the caravans from Muslim raids.  The Meccans did not threaten Muhammad, and (turning this Muslim myth on its ear) only fought in self-defense after they were attacked by the Muslims.  Following the battle, Muhammad established the practice of executing surrendered captives – something that would be repeated on many other occasions.

The significance of this episode can hardly be overstated, because it lies at the very beginning of the long chain of Muslim violence that eventually passed right through the heart of America on September 11th.  The early Muslims were not being threatened by those whom they attacked, and certainly not by those whom they had captured.  They staged aggressive raids to eventually provoke war, just as al-Qaeda attempts to do in our time.

Muslims try to justify Muhammad's violence by claiming that he and his followers “suffered persecution” at the hands of the Meccans in an earlier episode, in which Muhammad was evicted from the city of Mecca and had to seek refuge at Medina.  But even the worst of this persecution did not rise to the level of killing.  Nor were Muhammad and his Muslims in any danger at all in their new home of Medina.  They were free to get on with their lives.

Even Muhammad’s own men evidently questioned whether they should be pursuing and killing people who did not pose a threat to them, since it seemed to contradict earlier, more passive teachings.  To convince them, Muhammad passed along a timely revelation from Allah stating that “the persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter [of non-Muslims]” (Sura 2:191).  This verse established the tacit principle that the authority of Muslims is of higher value even than the very lives of others.  There is no larger context of morality against which acts are judged.  All that matters is how an event impacts or benefits Muslims.

Under Muhammad, slaves and poets were executed, captives were beheaded, and adulterers were put into the ground and stoned.  None of these were done during the heat of battle or necessitated by self-defense.  To this day, Islamic law mandates death for certain crimes such as blasphemy and apostasy.  

Following his death, Muhammad’s companions stormed the Christian world - taking the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe.  They attacked and conquered to the East as well, including Persia, Central Asia, and well into the Indian sub-continent.  Few, if any, of these campaigns involved the pretense of self-defense.  They were about Jihad.

[/b]

"The words, ‘Holy War’, aren’t in the Qur’an.”

The Muslim Game:

In early 2005, a well-known Muslim apologist named, Jamal Badawi, offered $1 million to anyone who could prove that the Qur’an contained the words, “Holy War.”  Whether he actually had the money to put up is somewhat in question, but his intention was to make people believe that Jihad is not advocated in the Qur’an and that the terrorists are somehow tragically mistaken when they wage their campaigns of holy war in the cause of Islam.

So successful is this myth, that it has been repeated on popular television shows, such as “Criminal Minds.”  Many now believe that not only is holy warfare not advocated by the Qur’an, but that the word, “Jihad” must not appear in it either, since Jihad has come to mean “Holy War” (most especially by those who kill in the name of Allah).

The Truth:

In fact, not only is the word “Jihad” mentioned in several places within the Qur'an, such as the infamous Sura 9 (which includes the “Verse of the Sword”), there are over 150 calls to holy war scattered throughout the entire text.  


So what’s the catch?

Well, when knowledgeable infidels such as Robert Spencer immediately responded to the challenge and went to collect their prize, Mr. Badawi was forced to reveal the fine print on his offer.  You see, he wasn’t talking about the concept of holy war.  He only meant the exact Arabic phrase, “Holy War.”

And what about “Jihad?”  Well, this doesn’t count, according to Mr. Badawi, because technically it can be used in a context that doesn’t mean ‘holy war’ (even if that is not how it was interpreted in Muhammad’s time, nor in ours).  "Jihad" is like the word “fight,” which can be used in a benign sense (as in, “I am fighting a craving to call Mr. Badawi a disingenuous hack”).

If “Jihad” is holy without war, then “Qital” must be war without the holy.  It is an Arabic term that literally means to wage military combat.  But, like Jihad, it is most certainly used within the context of holy war, such as in Sura 2: “Fight against them until idolatry is no more and religion is only for Allah.”  Mr. Badawi is even on record as admitting that Qital can be a form of Jihad… but even this doesn’t qualify according to the niceties of his offer.

So, although the Qur’an tells believers to “slay the infidels wherever ye find them,” and “smite their necks and fingertips,” showing “ruthlessness to unbelievers,” and 150 other violent admonitions to fight explicitly in the cause of Allah… the Arabic words “holy” and “war” don’t literally appear side-by-side.  (Neither do the German words, “concentration” and “camp,” appear consecutively in Nazi documents, by the way).

My, what a hollow victory this is!  One has to wonder whether Mr. Badawi sincerely believes that he has a point or if he recognizes this for the shameful word game that it is.

At the very least, people should know that “Jihad” is used within the context of religious warfare time and time again throughout the Qur’an and Hadith, and that, regardless of the exact terminology, Islam’s most sacred texts clearly advocate the sort of holy war that propels modern-day terrorism.



[b]“Verses of violence are taken out of context.”

The Muslim Game:

Verses like, “Slay the infidels wherever ye find them,” were issued during times of war, according to the apologists.  They accuse critics who use Qur’anic verses to discredit Islam of engaging in “cherry-picking” (pulling verses out of context to support a position, and ignoring others that may mitigate it).

The Muslims who rely on this argument often leave the impression that the Qur’an is full of verses of peace, tolerance and universal brotherhood, with only a small handful that say otherwise.  Their gullible audience may also assume that the context of each violent verse is surrounded by obvious constraints in the surrounding text which bind it to a particular place and time (as is the case with violent Old Testament passages).

The Truth:

The truth, unfortunately, is just the opposite.  This is why new Muslims and non-Muslims alike, who begin studying the Qur’an and Hadith, are often confronted with an array of disclaimers and warnings by well-meaning Muslims who caution that it takes “years of study” to fully understand the meaning of certain passages.  Neophytes are encouraged to seek the "counseling" of a Muslim scholar or cleric to "help them" interpret what they read.[/b]

It is not the verses of violence that are rare, unfortunately, it is the ones of peace and tolerance (which were narrated earlier in Muhammad's life and superseded by later ones).  Neither is the “historical context” of these verses of violence at all obvious from the surrounding text (in most cases).  

In the Qur’an, constructs and topics often come from out of nowhere and merge randomly in a jumbled mess that bears no consistent or coherent stream of thought.  But, with external references to the Hadith and early biographies of Muhammad’s life, it is usually possible to determine when a Qur’anic verse was “handed down from Allah,” and what it may have meant to the Muslims at the time.  This is what apologists opportunistically refer to as “historical context.”  They contend that such verses are merely a part of history and not intended as imperatives to present-day Muslims.

But “historical context” cuts both ways.  If any verse is a product of history, then they all are.  Indeed, there is not a verse in the Qur’an that was not given at a particular time to address a particular situation in Muhammad’s life, whether he wanted to conquer the tribe next door and needed a “revelation” from Allah spurring his people to war, or if he needed the same type of “revelation” to satisfy a lust for more women (free of complaint from his other wives).

Here is the irony of the “cherry-picking” argument: Those who use “historical context” against their detractors nearly always engage in cherry-picking of their own by choosing which verses they apply “historical context” to and which they prefer to hold above such tactics of mitigation.

This game of context is, in fact, one of the most popular and disingenuous in which Muslims are likely to engage.  Simply put, the apologists appeal to context only when they want it to be there - such as when the bellicose 9th Sura of the Qur'an, which calls for the subjugation and death of unbelievers, is at issue.  They ignore context when it proves inconvenient.  An example of the latter would be the many times in which verse 2:256 is isolated and offered up as proof of religious tolerance (in contradiction to Muhammad's later imposition of the jizya and the sword).

Islamic purists do not engage in such games.  Not only do they know that the verses of Jihad are more numerous and authoritative (abrogating the earlier ones), they also hold the entire Qur’an to be the eternal and literal word of Allah… and this is what often makes them so dangerous.



"Islam is the world’s fastest growing religion"

The Muslim Game:

How can Islam be a bad religion if it is growing so fast?  Doesn’t this mean that it is actually a truthful religion, since so many are accepting it?

The Truth:

In the first place, the truth of an idea or doctrine is never established by mere belief.  Up until the last hundred years or so, the vast majority of people on our planet did not even believe that they were on a planet.  Nor did they believe that the earth was spinning at a thousand miles an hour or hurtling around the sun at 67,000 miles an hour.  Does this mean that the earth wasn’t doing these things up until people believed that it was?

Secondly, Islam is not "growing faster" than other religions because “people are accepting it,” but rather because the birthrate among Muslims is significantly higher than it is among Christians and others, particularly in the West.  Kids can be raised to believe in just about anything, so this hardly constitutes any sort of accomplishment.

Of the so-called “converts” from other religions, only a miniscule number were active believers.  Nearly all are really just people who had no faith to convert from – regardless of their nominal designation.  In the West and other parts of the non-Muslim world in which all religions are allowed to compete equally such people experiencing a spiritual awakening are far more likely to turn to Christianity than to Islam.  

There are also some women who "marry into Islam" (a nominal change in official designation), but in terms of raw conversions, there is almost no comparison between Islam and Christianity.  It is estimated that thousands of Muslims convert to Christianity each day, while only a handful of non-Muslims actually adopt Islam.  

This leads to our final and most important point, which is that decent Muslims should feel a sense of embarrassment, rather than pride over the rules that they have to enforce in order to maintain Islam's status as the "fastest growing religion."  In truth, it speaks more to the insecurity that Muslims have in their own religion, and the banal immaturity that Islam has compared with other faiths.

Let’s say that you are playing chess with a 6-year-old boy.  Instead of following the same set of rules, however, the child is allowed to make up rules that are preferential to him.  One of the rules he decides on is that you aren’t allowed to make any moves on his half of the board, but he is allowed to make moves on yours.  Another might be that it is impossible for any of his pieces to be taken.

Now, if the child is winning the game – which is assured by the conditions that he has imposed - is it really something in which he can truly take pride?  

The rules that Muslims impose on the “conversion game” are almost exactly like this chess analogy.  Other religions are not allowed to operate in Islam’s own territory (ie. preaching their faith and evangelizing) as Muslims are in others.  Neither is conversion away from Islam allowed – on penalty of death.

Watching Muslims gloat over conversions to Islam or in being the “fastest growing religion” is no different than watching a child delude themselves into thinking that they are smarter and better for “beating” a much wiser adult in a game played under manufactured conditions that render the artificial “victory” entirely meaningless.

Islam has been playing by its own rules since its inception.  It is unlikely that Muslims will soon develop the confidence in their own religion (or the required social maturity) to lift the shameful restrictions to which it owes its success and risk competition with other faiths on a level playing field.  

As was first mentioned, the truth of a belief or creed is never established by how many followers it has.  But when a religion has to be supported by double standards and death threats, there is all the more reason to doubt its veracity.

(Note: Our article does not take issue with the claim that Islam is the fastest growing religion, not because we necessarily believe it, but because others have done a better job of refuting it.  See Islam is not the Fastest Growing Religion in the World for an example.)



[b]"The Qur'an Can Only be Understood in Arabic"

The Muslim Game:

The Qur’an can only be fully understood in Arabic.  One cannot criticize Islam without knowing Arabic.

The Truth:

Although Muslims often tell critics of Islam to "read the Qur'an," they are usually unprepared for what happens when their advice is heeded.  An honest translation of Islam's holiest book generally reinforces negative opinion.  The fallback is to then claim that the Qur'an can only be understood in Arabic.

Of all the efforts to artificially insulate Islam from intellectual critique, this is probably the most transparent.  Unfortunately, for those Muslims craving reassurance from the more embarrassing passages of the Qur’an and Sunnah, this cheap tactic of arbitrarily dismissing anything they disagree with still comes at a heavy price, since Islam cannot be protected in this way without sacrificing its claim to being a universal religion.

In the first place, it is fundamentally impossible for anyone to learn a language that cannot be translated into the only one they do know, which means the apologists who insist that “one must learn Arabic” in order to understand the Qur’an are committing a logical fallacy.  Either the Arabic of the Qur’an is translatable (in which case there is no need to learn Arabic) or it is not (in which case it can never be learned by the non-native speaker).

Enter the skeptic.  While every language has its nuances, how is that Arabic is the only one with words and phrases that are literally untranslatable?  More importantly, why in the world would Allah choose to communicate his one true religion for all men in the only language that cannot be understood by all men – including all Muslims, since most do not speak Arabic?[/b]

Even more suspicious is that this amazing linguistic “discovery” was only recently made – and that it corresponds quite remarkably with the contemporary rejection of Islamic practices that were considered acceptable up until the religion’s recent collision with Western liberalism.  In fact, there is an astonishing correlation between the argument that hidden and alternate meanings exist to unflattering Qur’anic passages (justifying slavery, the inferior status of women, intimate gluttony, holy warfare, wife-beating, and religious discrimination) and the level of embarrassment that modern scholars have about the presence of such verses in the Qur’an!

No other world religion makes this claim about itself or its holy texts.  While the Bible is distributed pretty much as is by various Christian groups, for example, it is rare to find a Qur’an that does not include voluminous and highly subjective footnoted commentary deemed necessary to explain away the straightforward interpretation of politically-incorrect passages.

An additional problem for the apologists is that they want to have it both ways.  On the one hand they declare that (for some strange reason) the "perfect book" can't be translated and that Allah's perfect religion thus cannot be understood by most of humanity without a battery of intercessors and interpreters.  Then they turn around and blame the reality of Islamic terrorism on this same "necessary" chain of intermediaries by claiming that the Osama bin Ladens of the world have simply gotten bad clerical advice, causing them to “misunderstand” the true meaning of the Religion of Peace (in the most catastrophic and tragic way imaginable).

Of course, another irony here is that, as a Saudi, the Qur’an-toting Osama bin Laden is a native Arabic speaker – as are most of the leaders and foot soldiers in his al-Qaeda brotherhood of devout Muslims.  In fact, many critics of Islam are Arabic speakers as well.

At this point there is only one avenue of escape open to the beleaguered apologist, which is the weak claim that the Qur’an can only be understood in Classical Arabic, an obscure Quraish dialect which has not been commonly used in over a thousand years and is only known by a few hundred people alive today (generally Wahabbi scholars, who are - ironically enough - accused of taking the Qur'an 'too literally').  

Although it is hardly plausible that the differences between classical and modern Arabic are such that peace and tolerance can be confused with terrorism, even if this were true, it merely begs the question all the more.  Why would such a “perfect book” be virtually impossible for the rest of us to learn - and susceptible to such horrible "misinterpretation" on an on-going basis?

Really, it isn't hard to see through this childish game, particularly since the rules are applied only to detractors and not to advocates.  Apologists never claim that Arabic is a barrier to understanding Islam when it comes to lauding the religion, no matter how less knowledgeable those offering praise are than the critics.

Obviously, the real reason for this illogical myth is that, for the first time, the information age is making the full history and texts of the Islamic religion available to a broader audience, and it is highly embarrassing to both Muslim scholars and their faithful flock.  Pretending that different meanings exist in Arabic is a way of finding solace and saving face.



TheReligionofPeace.com
I saw these extracts by someone. He said it is from the Quaran. To the muslims in the house can we confirm these excerpts:

Muslim: B19N4395 "I said: 'Should I tell you a Hadith from your Traditions.' He gave an account of the Conquest of Mecca, saying: 'Muhammad (may peace be upon him) advanced until he reached Mecca. He assigned Zubayr to his right flank and Khalid to his left. Then he dispatched Ubaida with the force that had no armor. They advanced to the interior. The Prophet (may peace be upon him) was in the midst of a large contingent of his fighters. Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: 'You see the ruffians and the lowly followers of the Quraysh.' He indicated by striking one of his hands over the other that they should be killed. So we went off on his orders and if anyone wanted a person killed; he was slain. No one could offer any resistance. Then Abu Sufyan said: Messenger, the blood of the Quraysh has become very cheap. The Prophet said: 'Kill all who stand in your way.'
 
Also;

Qur'an 9:5 "When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, beleaguer them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Tabari VIII:161 "Matters stood thus between the Banu Bakr and the Khuza'ah when Islam intervened to separate them and occupy people's minds.The Bakr entered into a pact with the Quraysh, and the Khuza'ah entered into a pact with the Muslims. The truce having been concluded, the Banu Bakr took advantage of it against the Khuza'ah. To retaliate, they wanted to kill the persons responsible for killing their men. So the Bakr killed a Khuza'ah man. The Quraysh aided the Bakr with weapons, and some Quraysh fought on their side under the cover of darkness until they drove the Khuza'ah into the sacred territory."


Guys in the house please Check this Out.  It is not meant to dis or bif any one.
Politics › Re: Photo: Meet Mohammed Manga, Nigeria’s First Suicide Bomber by dejyx: 8:57am On Jun 28, 2011
[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=700593.msg8603962#msg8603962 date=1309219325]4 million is not even $30K. $6k per kid. . . that isn't going to be enough to raise, feed and educate them to decent standards (quality high schools + some sort of technical training or university after that).

Feeding alone is not enough, imo. . . doing that alone just makes more almajiris.

Btw, in case it isn't clear, I'm not expressing surpise at the possibility of this happening. It happens here in the US too. But at least in the US, there is a social safety net. You can send your kids to decentish public schools for free, there are plenty of jobs, there is welfare, etc, etc. So the penalties for shortsighted behavior are less painful.

I'm expressing surprise more at the total lack of responsibility behavior like that represents (unless you are very well off).[/quote]I think you have to understand these people's mentality. They believe that when you have children God will provide for them. Some of these fanatics can do that Job for N500,000= or even free.
Politics › Re: Photo: Meet Mohammed Manga, Nigeria’s First Suicide Bomber by dejyx: 8:42am On Jun 28, 2011
ZnO:
Message for southern muslims:
To the northern muslims, you are all infidels. That is why try hard  as you can (Adegbite and Co.) you can never be head of islam in Nigeria
You see your Ileya moon differently, they see theirs differently
In the last election, Buhari, a northern muslim, refused to yield to the requests of Tinubu, a southern muslim: all because they feel superior to you.
Yet, you dey fall mugu for their antics

I was in Kano in 2001 when I visited a friend serving there
Suddenly riot broke out
Yoruba muslims, Yoruba christians, Igbos and other southern and northern christians were killed
They say you live peaceably with christians in your midst, hence you are not good muslims
They say you southern muslims drink beer and patronize asha-wos, like christians do, so you are for those reasons, not true muslims.
But please take a trip to a place called [b]Trailer Park [/b]along the Port Harcourt-Onne Highway in River State. They come from the North to load fertilizers from NAFCON and petroleum products from the nearby NNPC. There you will see these northern muslims in hundreds who empty beer bottles into their washing kettles used for ablution and drink from it, in deceit of the unwary. You find them sleeping with southern asha-wos on the back of their trailers at night. Ask them, they tell you ''this is southern nigeria, sharia will not catch us here''. They then go back north and pretend all is well and continue with their holier-than-thou attitude.
Did Abacha not die atop Indian asha-wos, as we hear? Yet, to a northern muslim, Abacha is more important than even the holiest of southern muslims.

I pity all these southern muslims who do not want to see beyond their noses.
Sharia Bank? Hm!! They go throw bomb inside the banking hall. Guess who  the most bankers in Nigeria are, and thus, who the potential victims would be
They go use your savings buy bomb wey dey go use kill you.
The emphasis on islamic banking is a red flag that should not be ignored
We have had Habib Bank etc; no one cared, because the name does not suggest anything of security interest
From the grapevine, one of the conditions given by the Mullahs in the Middle East to pump in cash is that the name must be ISLAMIC BANK to stamp in the IOC angle to it.

Even the deceit by Sanusi in mentioning that an Igbo man is  a shareholder of his sharia bank is lost on so many.
Ask him why he specifically singled out that Igbo man, among 10-15 other shareholders.

Hold your ears and listen up; Sharia is on its way to Ibadan. A word is enough for the wise.
Thank God for people like you O!!

Please tell them the TRUTH let them hear.  My own thinking is a little different from you in that I believe that if these hypocrites feel that they can not be ruled by a southerner and cant live in peace with southerners they should say it and lets split the country.
Politics › Re: How Is The Swearing In Faring In Your State! by dejyx: 1:23pm On May 29, 2011
In Jos the turnout isnt much. People are scared of the Talibans. It is going on smoothly anyway. Right now the MC is reading through his profile.
Politics › Re: Recurrent Crisis In Northern Nigerha; Tribal, Political Or Religious? by dejyx: 2:50pm On May 13, 2011
namfav:
what truth should be accepted, that we hate non-muslims? i speak this with certainty when i say this is nothing to do with hatred for muslims and non-muslims, neither is it tribal maybe in your quarters it is tribal but not in ours, the problem is social caused by the general political enviroment, in real life i don't think i will lose friends who are christian because i am muslim or because i am fulani, but there is a big possiblity friendships will be lost because of disagreement with social structures and the general enviroment of nigerias politics whenever i come across a southerner as a northerner we always avoid politics, we talk about religion, culture etc. but not politics do you know why? we've lived each other for too long with our different tribes/religions but now that religion has been politicised and being used by sections of the media to score points and sympathy why do you think there is a problem these things did not exist years ago just now especialy with the growth of internet where everyone can just go on and spew alot of rubbish on forums, news websites and blogs, even intertainment blogs are used for politics against northerners (e.g linda ikejis blog), and you think we are the ones to blame? please  undecided
Question: Recurrent crises in Nigeria is it  tribal, religous or political  

Namfav  a hardworking Hausa- Fulani  MUSLIM man says "the problem is social caused by the general political enviroment, in real life i don't think i will lose friends who are christian because i am muslim or because i am fulani, but there is a big possiblity friendships will be lost because of disagreement with social structures and the general enviroment of nigerias politics"

Now by recurrent crises what is meant is:
1. The crises in the late 60's before the Nigerian Civil war.
2. The crises in Kano where shops were burnt down churches burnt down in Sabon Garri Kano.
3. The crises of Maitasine in the 80's
4. The Crises of Bauchi in 1990
5. The 2001,2002,2008,2011 Jos Crises
6. The crises in Yelwa Shendam  in Plateau State.
7. The crises in Bauchi 2004 that started from Bauchi Poly.
8. The crises of boko haram in Maiduguri
9.  The Kaduna crises due to Sharia that must have been 2000 or there about.
10. The crises of the nation newspaper where a journalist published something said to be blasphmy to Islam before a beauty peagent.
11. The crises of the Danish Cartoon.
12.The post election crises in nothern Nigeria where Jonathan was declared winner and youth corpers, pdp members security personel and people of the public were attacked and some lost lives. This is the most recent. States like Kano, Kaduna, Gombe, Bauchi and Maiduguri were affected.
13.Kala Kato crises of bauchi 2010.
14.Jos Bomb Blast of

The above list can go on and on.

I have a few questions for you Namfav and members of the house that care to listen because we should try to make this as simple as possible.

Section A
Do you agree with the above list of recurrent crises in Nigeria. Yes or No Namfav. (if you disagree please feel free to alert the house and I will give you a break down/complete history of whichever point.) The whole world is watching so we must be careful.  
As a result of all these crises thousands of lives have been lost. True or False Namfav.
As a result of all these crises millions of Naira have been lost. True or False Namfav.

Section B
As a result of all these crises built trust between the notherners and southerners have been lost. True or False. Namfav.
To initiate all these nefarous activities mecenaries from Niger, Chad and Almajeris are used. True or False. Namfav.
Men at high places are said to be sponsors of these crises. True or False. Namfav.

Section C
All these crises occured in Nothern Nigeria. True or False
All these groups (Almajeri, Maitasine, Kala Kato and Boko Haram) are from North-West/North-East Nigeria. True or False.
North-East/North West Nigeria are predominantly Hausa-Fulani. True or False.

In the above listed crises from No. 1 - 14 who are the initiators.
a. Hausa/Fulani
b.Igbo
c. Yoruba
d. Tiv

If your answer is a. are the Hausa/Fulani predominantly followers of Islam?


I have posed these few and simple questions to you and the house to make understanding easier.  This is because on certain occasions you said I am making up stories, I am propagating the cause of the Nigerian Media, I am a not-so-smart person, I deserve to be called a[b] KUFR[/b] (Unbeliever), hypocrite etc. I have always hammered on one thing please and please if you feel any thing I have said is wrong highlight me and lets trash it out instead of calling names.

The final and big question I am posing to you, the house and the entire world is how does the failure of government and the failure of the political structure justify the slaughtering of human beings, Burning of Churches, Looting of property, raping of women, maiming of people and attacking of security operatives.
Politics › Re: Recurrent Crisis In Northern Nigerha; Tribal, Political Or Religious? by dejyx: 3:34pm On May 12, 2011
zeeleso:
I agree wit some of your points.

The problem is Envy: It is much more deeper than that. To u hustling for your daily bread n sweating to live a high standard of life, it would appear that the poor hausa man who lives in his mud house wit 50 children and hz no technology nor education should be envious of u. NewsFlash: they r not. As a matter of fact he may even think himself superior to u. Twisted right ? I know. They are content in their lives as it is. The igbos are hustlers. The yourbas are hustlers. The hausa are sleeping. They other two have set up shop in their land and become successful. The hausa saw them thriving. They allowed them to continue thriving and even with the crisis the non-indigenes keep going back there. It says a lot about the Igbo man's resilience.I also once read someone commend jos indigenes for allowing the hausa to set up shop in their land.

They have a group called BokoHaram: I've stayed in the north for a while bt i dont know who Bokoharam r except wt i hear from the media. It says they attack churches, armed forces and politcians. What does dis tell me? It started out cos they thought they were fighting a cause now the goal has shifted and they now carry out the wishes of the highest bidder. But Boko hara, does nt represent the hausa masses. Most of them dont know who or wt boko haram is and couldnt care less. They just hear it on TV.
Nice my man. I have two points for you to think over:
1. Have you heard of the word decoy. That contentment is a decoy.

2. If boko haram does not represent a part of hausa poeple. Are boko haram Yoruba? Igbo? Idoma? Tiv? Edo? Efik? Isoko? If boko haram falls under a tribe that is not hausa I will agree with you 100%.
Politics › Re: Recurrent Crisis In Northern Nigerha; Tribal, Political Or Religious? by dejyx: 3:08pm On May 12, 2011
namfav:
you are not being factual at all and i come across your type everytime i go on internet, your little story is pathetic and false but there will be your type that will believe that nonsense, as you like to believe, we are not lazy, unwilling to learn, or the other pathetic stereotypes you like to spew, you know what i hate people like you who make things up, lol i don't care what names you are called i have never used those words or hear anyone that i know using those words but if you are acting like kufr you will be call such why do you get offended do you know what it means? you insult our religion and you are offended when you are called kufr, does someone who kills get offended for being called a murderer? not all southerners are bad people, in fact the good are more than the bad it's just i guess the bad are making the most noise, they have their hands on the media, always on the internet spreading lies etc.  and you expect good things?

who cares about your experiences i also have experiences to tell i'm sure we all have experiences that we want to forget, but someone with a tongue as sharp like yours and a head as thick as yours will get into any trouble, do you think if you offend people you will not get people angry and some people refuse to learn on history, you gave a story of a arrogant lady who goes on to offend people after being warned, that sum up your type, you get warned but when sheet happens you lay the blame, you know what gets under my skin, is the fact that you get warned that it is worth not saying or doing certain things but going instead to test other individuals, how pathetic man, many wars would have been preventable if some people just stopped being thick
My very good friend this medium has really helped me.  You mean someone can act like Kufr? "To those guys out there kufr is a word the Qu'ran uses to identify those who denied Allah's favors by not accepting His Dominion and Authority. Kufr thus is an antonym for Iman or disbelief in Allah" Am suprised at you namfav that you can go out in public to declare me kufr? Anyway call me whatever you like it is The Almighty God that has the final say not you namfav.  Imagine what is on your mind? So there are people that are kufr and you are what? Please let the house know.  I thought you were a little different from the "slaugtheres" you are all the same. Carry on with your atrocities and lets see where you will end.

Back to the main issue at hand I will like to let you know this fact I never made up any of these stories.  If someone from Jos is on this forum he or she will testify.  I dont have to make up any stories. Infact what have I said that is made up here. Let the forum know. I have been asking you what is false? what have I made up? point it out instead of insulting. Is it Dogon Nahawa the pictures and videos are there. Is it Ali Kazaure the pictures are there. Is it the capture/colonization of  of Angwan Rogo behind unijos the pictures are there. This is another issue you are making me delve into. The Theory that crises in nothern nigeria is caused for expansion.  

Now my own theory about crises in nothern nigeria like I said is all about ENVY of the notherners I will stick to that.  Another school of thought believe it is based on war of expansion or war for economic might. What is your own theory? You keep on saying government government. Now you are talking about structures that are not put in place. Please say something reasonable.  The big question is why is it in nothern Nigeria  we have Maitasine, Kala Kato, Izala, Boko Haram etc slaughtering innocent youth corpers, burning churches looting markets killing security operatives and rapping women?  The same government that governs nothern Nigeria is the same that governs the south but things like this are not obtainable from where we come from.  Why are you so adamant supporting this kind of heinous crimes.  You should condemn it.  Instead of condemning evil you are calling me Kufr.  Do you think calling me names can get me offended. No way man I am beyond that.  I know what I am and I know what I stand for.

My very good friend some people are going through these threads so as much as possible please try to be articulate.  I have never in my life abuse Islam, I will never abuse Islam. I am fully of the belief that religion is of the mind. God will judge each and every one of us based on our deeds on earth.  My relatives are muslims so I can never condemn any of them infact if I do I am condemning my own blood.

You know what namfav?  You have been brain washed. I now see your problem.  You have been listening to too many of  those sermons that are made to incite you guys  you cant even make a clear judgement of your own. You must have boozed an overdose of that your black concoction that is what is controlling you not your concience any more.  I wish you all the best in your slaughtering spree. It is just a pity.  The whole thing is actually turning to something else. So this is the last you will hear of me. Peace.
Politics › Re: Recurrent Crisis In Northern Nigerha; Tribal, Political Or Religious? by dejyx: 2:31pm On May 11, 2011
namfav:
the hausa/fulani man is the most hardworking in nigeria/hardwork and striving for development=in our dna, as a matter of fact when a northern person is trying to better himself, what does the government do? it put's him down i have seen it with many individuals who have to get foreign aid just to start a charity, and don't talk about "boko haram" you are sounding like the rest, it is not a force in the north somehow the media is trying to make it what it is not for an obvious agenda, to spread your agenda, what can you do but tarnish our religion that's all you know, we see the failures of the federal government to adresse issue, what do you do, you blame islam, walahi from my point of view this is not about religion (the north is very tolerant we accepted alot of southerners when we were at our peak), we do not despice education (the north has always produced some of the greatest scholars/scientists in african history i.e dan marina, masani al barwani etc.) we can definitely look at that in our heritage, the good outweighs the bad in the north when you find a really good northerner ther are no better human beings in the world even in the civil war when emotion and anger was high we heard of stories of fulani/hausa get killed trying to protect strangers (children, women, elders) from the south, where else can that happen? don't tell us what we are not, we know our short comings we don't need reetards writing some pathetic stories that some ignoramuses will obviously believe, pathetic
As Usual typical of you guys thank God I am not by your side you would have done what is worse than calling me retard and insult others as ignoramus. There is no need  for insult it can't help us.  We should try as much as possible to be factual.  I will use Jos as an example for a little explanation.  Please where you think I am wrong point me out thats how it is done.  I have lived in Jos for about 36 years now so there are so many of your type here.  My own is that there is something that muslims are hidding I just dont know what it is.  Here in Jos, you guys call us southerners arne mai shan gia (infidel/outcast that drinks alcohol) they say we are Kapiri mai chin Mushe (pagans that eat unslaughtered meat) unslaughtered meat I think they mean things like bush meat and for that we are not worhty to live even we should be slaughtered with sickles and die while the murders enjoy themselves in paradise. Insulting people means nothing to you namfav when you can slaughter and support slaughtering. I am not surprised you are calling me retard. In my religion there is no Gentile and no Jew people are God's creation we don't judge people on earth by saying arne mai shan gia or Kapiri mai chin mushe or gidan Kaurwaye as you people say.  

Any way my friend I am not talking based on media I am talking from experience.  I have been a refugee about three times that is because I lived near angwan rimi after shagari corner here in Jos.  I and many others have had to pack out of that area because we live near muslims.  Jos was so peaceful then we used to send food to muslim brothers during xmas and easter. I used to enjoy sallah celebration because I eat alot of RAM meat during those celebrations and they send us food during sallah. Now all this is history. Let us ask us why.  Lets give a brief summary to this, one friday afternoon 8th sept 2001 Jos was in flames the story was this a lady was passing congo junction where they have there friday prayers but the place was blocked. she was told not to pass the blocked road because it was already time for prayers, the lady insisted she must pass she passed and the whole place set ablaze.  Another crisis in jos was due to the fact that jos north chairman winner was declared, the winner was a Plateau man as against a hausa man instead of the hausas going to the electoral tribunal they started burning christian houses at about 1am in the morining at Ali Kazaure street.  Have you heard of Dogon Nahawa, Retsat and Zot Fulani killed 500 innocent women and children while they were sleeping at night.  The excuse was that people of Dogon Nahawa Retsat and Zot ate fulani mens cows.  I can give you ten (10) lame excuses why crises have been  sparked up in nothern Nigeria infact these excuses are ridiculous.

Any way my friend like I said earlier please feel free to say no to what you think is wrong that I have said instead of insulting.
Politics › Re: Recurrent Crisis In Northern Nigerha; Tribal, Political Or Religious? by dejyx: 8:30am On May 11, 2011
I find this piece very interesting.  I will first start with Hammid O. Typical of all hausa muslims he is trying to evade the main facts.  He is now blaming the crises on government not being able to provide jobs for the people and trying to say they should work on that.  Quite true, but we all know that government has not always provided for us. Government will never provide everything for everybody.  Whether I am a christian or a traditionalist and I find out that I am jobless does that give me the guaranty to go slaughtering pregnant women and their babies, slaughtering innocent youth corpers, burning churches, raping women and looting peoples property.  The answer is NO.  

Hammid O what is Bad is Bad please do not look for any excuse to support your muslim brothers. Every human being is a creation of God Almighty at no instance should any one take the life of a fellow brother or sister in the name of joblessness.  Hammid O all those your muslim brothers in Kaduna that have taken the Law into their hands and taken the life of innocent people must pay for it dearly and the fact is that on judgement day they have no hidding place they will burn forever in HELL FIRE.

Now to the main issue.  My own theory to all this crises are neither political, religious or tribal.  This crises is simply due to ENVY.  The typical hausa man is lost in this present dispensation. He is not educated (just a few are I mean) and you will agree with me that in the world we are living in today one must be educated, learn a trade or at least buy and sell before he can make a living.  The hausa populace in Nigeria have been sleeping. They reproduce massively without thinking of a way to provide for their offspring. You will find a jobless hausa man having four wives, concubines and twenty children just sitting on a mat under a mango tree from morning till night expecting God to drop manna from heaven for him my brothers and sisters how possible is that?

This now leads me to why I say it is pure envy.  The hausa man has put himself in a corner due to his decision to populate the earth and he now sees the average southerner hustling, a good example being the so called uneducated ones like the enterprising Igbo guys who come from various villages in the east to towns like Kano Jos kaduna and bauchi becoming millonaires. This is because of their involvement in businesses like the sale of spareparts, electronics pharmaceutical products cosmetics etc. All of a sudden you find the hausa man envious of these southerners the next that will happen is this an excuse will come up it will either be a christian butcher used the same knife to slaughter a pig and a cow and sold the beef to muslim brothers which is against their religion. You will now find groups chanting arabic words well armed with swords, axes and long sickles slaughtering maiming raping looting and burning churches. At the end of the day who are the victims?  Youth corpers, igbo business men, yoruba muslims etc.  Just because this group of southerners practice family planning have an education, have learnt a trade, can provide for themselves and their families translating to high living standards. The Hausas are a lazy bunch most of them into black market businesses which are not consistent eg sitting down by the road side to sell dollars and pounds, waiting for fuel scarcity to sell black market fuel, selling water in jerrycans, selling sweets and cigarate, selling sugarcane, selling kolanut, walking around town as a cobler, buying old bottles/newspapers (Mai kwalabe). Now the ones that are a little connected have friends in Abuja all they simply do is sit wait for contracts to be offered them by their friends in Abuja.  Contracts they will never execute or at worst sublet to Igbos and Yorubas.  You can see why they cant imagine power slipping off their hands.  Once power is off their hands no more fake contracts no more free money everyone will have to sweat for his money.  

Most southerners sweat for thier cash in this country most know that education is vital in this our internet age. The Hausa man is just realizing it.  Infact they have a group called BOKO HARAM meaning western education is forbidden. What a pity. This BOKO HARAM is funded by educated people/working class people and someone would come out to say crises is caused by illitracy/unemployment.  We all know the destruction this BOKO HARAM caused to the country.  

I would like to conclude that these bunch of Hausas are envious of the southerners lifestyle and  believe.  If a southerner is jobless what he will simply do is simply to engage himself in something, go to church and pray to God almighty to assist him and God that is God will perform wonders.  The opposite is the case of a Hausa man.  Once a Hausa man does not get what he wants or for example he sees that he has lost an election because his main source of living is the sharing of government money. The Hausa man will draw his sword and use the black market fuel he sells to start slaughtering maiming looting raping and burning churches due to ENVY. At the end of the day if you say this crises is political how does killing give one political power, if we say religous why does he kill his fellow muslims, if tribal the hausa man still slaughters his fellow hausa man.  

End of Part I
Politics › Jonathan Weighs One-term Option by dejyx(op): 10:39am On Dec 12, 2010
2011 Elections: Jonathan Weighs One-Term Option
From Chuks Okocha in Abuja, 12.11.2010


President Goodluck Jonathan and his campaign strategists may have decided to concede to the one-term option being proposed by key Northern leaders who have been holding talks with him over the way out of the zoning crisis.
A close associate of the President told THISDAY that he is not aversed to suggestion that he should end his tenure in 2015 and that President Jonathan in fact believes public officers should do just one term in office.
“The President believes that public officers can make an impact in one term. And that if it is one term, it saves the President the rigours of primaries and entering into all kinds of deals for re-election,” the associate said.


THISDAY had last week exclusively reported that Northern leaders, including governors sympathetic to Jonathan, had proposed the option of one term and a return of power to the North in 2015 to reduce the tension in the polity and create a “peaceful atmosphere” before the 2011 elections.
THISDAY reported that General TY Danjuma and the Sultan of Sokoto, Alhaji Sa’ad Abubakar, were also involved in this move which has been considered as a “political solution” to the controversy.


The major obstacle to Jonathan’s outright endorsement by the North, according to THISDAY sources, is the fear that he may seek a second term in 2015, thereby keeping the region out of presidential power for nine years.
Information available to THISDAY had indicated that the power brokers have agreed in principle to support Jonathan's aspiration on the condition that he would in turn commit “in writing” to support a Northern candidate to succeed him in 2015.


“The naked truth is that we cannot stop President Jonathan from running,” a traditional ruler told the newspaper last week. “No matter the argument we want to make, it will be difficult to ask a sitting president to vacate office when it is within his constitutional right to run. We also do not want to damage our relationship with the South-south and that relationship is as old as Nigeria.”
The royal father said, however, that the president should also consider the political dilemma the North has now found itself as it would be “unfair” to keep power in the South for 17 out of 20 years if Jonathan seeks re-election in 2015.


The discussion over what concession Jonathan would have to make to the North is becoming intensified as some of his supporters believe that the one –term option is more feasible than the consensus candidacy arrangement put in place by the Adamu Ciroma-led Northern Lea-ders Consultative Forum as a way of wresting power from the incumbent president.
“The more, a realistic option is what we are pursuing now. In any case when we begin real campaign for the President in the North, we need to be able to tell our people what we are able to get from the president for the North in exchange for our support for him,” a state governor told THISDAY yesterday.
President Jonathan is set to slug it out with former vice president Abubakar Atiku in the PDP presidential primaries which will hold on January 15, 2011 in Abuja.

http://www.thisdayonline.info/nview.php?id=189761


The big question is what of the SOUTH-EAST region?
Sports › Re: Who Is The Most Qualified Coach Between Stephen Keshi And Samson Siasia? by dejyx: 7:51am On Nov 02, 2010
I love Siasa so much. But now keshi has come in we have to be sincere. Keshi qualified Togo with average players. Imagine what he will do with Nigeria who has Excellent players.
Sports › Re: Nigeria Vs Iran Friendly Squad List by dejyx: 6:21pm On Oct 27, 2010
12large1:
honeric you are dead wrong keita might be hardworking but he totally sucks. the guy has no ball sense,ball control, or any positve thing he is just about hardwork and in proffesional football thats not enough. i rather play obiora nwankwo,ramon azeez,joel obi,mikel obi before keita comes into consideration. for eguavor i already knew that the mumu is not a coach if his the coach next year i expect yakubu aiyebeni to be recalled. we have played 3 matches under him and the dunce has not realized that the problem of eagles is the midfield his just calling strikers and defenders because a likely middle of keita and anybody else on that roster is='s tos useless
Keita is a defensive midfielder you compare keita with Yusuf Anyila, Etuhu and probably Mikel Obi.
Politics › Re: 6 Killed In Fresh Jos Violence by dejyx: 6:10pm On Oct 27, 2010
When we thought it was over.

I am getting fed up with this whole thing. Why women and children?  The story is always that villagers tampered with the fulani mans cows and that he holds his cows in high esteem infact that a fulani man prefers to loose the life of his child than loose his cow. Please did anybody tamper with his cow?  Yelwa Shendam, Dogon Nahawa, Retsat, Zot, Mazza, and now Bassa.  My take is that instead of sneaking in at night to kill innocent women and children cant they bring up the issue so that it can be solved.

We the should still thank God that Jonathan took Dambazau and Sale Maina off.  If not the Hausa muslim soldiers, the Almajeris, and the fulanis would have masacared the people of plateau.  The people of Plateau are not ready to take the bull by the horn.  These killings will still continue.  There is no man like Zamani Lekwot he is my all time Hero.  Just one man messed the fulani cowards in Zango kataf.  We have quite a number of Military men from Plateau but not any seems to be bold enough to hit these cowards.

I pray that plateau state can just produce one ZAMANI LEKWOT this mess will be over.
Politics › Re: We Did Not Bomb Abuja -- M E N D. by dejyx: 10:01am On Oct 07, 2010
aduboy:
Goodluck Jonathan 's faction of MEND, Who is fooling who. Let Jonathan resign. He has failed.
Calm down.

whether he has failed or passed is not the issue. Whether GEJ planted the bomb at night with his hands is not the issue. It is way beyond what you are thinking. Look if these guys don't allow GEJ carry on. We split Naija simple.
Politics › Re: Goodluck Jonathan Says Mend Is Not Responsible For Abuja Attacks. by dejyx: 4:47pm On Oct 06, 2010
Nice delibration. But it is becoming the case of the chicken and the eggs which came first. We should go a little spiritual. He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword. Whatsoever a mean soweth that also shall he reap. Dont worry guys in seven days the blood of those innocent fifteen shall give us a final conclusion to this puzzle.
Politics › Re: Northern Political Leaders Ask Jonathan To Resign by dejyx: 4:32pm On Oct 06, 2010
soldee:
YES! Let him step aside and restrict himself to being a Referee and conduct free and fair elections for capable candidates from whatever region!!
lets be serious here. because they want you to make you think like this by bombing doesnt mean you should. Look these guys are sabotuers I live with them in JOS I know these guys. theyve done it to Dariye, now to Jang. GEJ should never chicken out. If they were the ones let me tell you they will form a brotherhood they will never chicken out. Dont be scared right now the worst thing that can happen is for Naija to seperate. We refuse to be intimidated by these terrorists. We dont think like them. Once they cant have it their way they solve their problems using violence. Look I have had to run from these people for my dear life five good times .
Politics › Re: Northern Political Leaders Ask Jonathan To Resign by dejyx: 4:16pm On Oct 06, 2010
It is very simple.  We from the south are also tired of  you Black markerters smugglers almajeris  Kala Katos, Maitasine Boko haram and Sharia. Its either these people give us a shot or they Bleep off Nigeria.  Rulership is not their birth right if GEJ is a Nigerian he should be given a chance.  We are where we are because of these people and they are saying GEJ should resign. Lets see what they will use to run their desert country full off brain washed illitrate poor almajeris, VVF Cholera Malaria Leprosed filled Lot.
Politics › Re: Gej Nailed Finally- Okah Spills The Bin! by dejyx: 1:42am On Oct 06, 2010
Thank you my brother. Even within Jos he is the genesis of the so called Jos crises by creating Jos north and Jos south Local govts. Jos north was meant to be for Maloids and Jos south for indegines. The panel of inquiry into Jos crises called him to answer some questions and he never showed up.

IBBBomb is getting what he wants and seems to be fooling some pple as some of these nairalanders have started calling GEJ names. The evil G is at it again.
Sports › Re: Nigeria To Advertise Coaching Position! by dejyx: 5:18am On Sep 05, 2010
I don't see any thing wrong with the amount he is asking for. I guess he is just negotiating. Berti Vogts and Lagarback collected about four times what Siasia is asking for. They both collected our Cash and messed up. People like Samson Siasia, Stephen Keshi and Sunday Oliseh will not bribe NFF members with part of their Salary to get the job neither will they accept any imposition of players to field from those NFF Administrators. Those guys are principled coaches and will do the right thing to see that they succeed they also have a name and a future to protect. These are the reasons why they are advertising that position. All Nigerians know that one of these our Nigerian Coaches will definitely do better than Berti Vogts, Lagarback, Chukwu and Amodu etc.

Our prayer is that the new administration should not be as GREEDY and POWER DRUNK as the previous NFF boards.
Sports › Re: Siasia Vows To Make Eagles Formidable by dejyx: 12:35pm On Jul 23, 2010
After qualifying the eagles trust NFF Siasa will be dropped for a white skin coach.
Sports › Re: Did Kaka Truly Deserve A Red Card? by dejyx: 2:35am On Jun 21, 2010
In my personal opinion,  I dont think its a card offence. The ref should av asked himself where  was keita running to in the first place.  I would never allow anyone just bump into me just like that.  Kaka guarded and protected himself simple.  As for those saying its a card offence I dont think any of you would stand looking ALOF while someone is running towards you to bump on you.
Politics › Re: Ohanaeze Demands Sack Of Army Chief by dejyx: 11:45am On Jun 16, 2010
Lets hope the Nigerian Government does not turn deaf ears to this.  You guys need to see how these soldiers were used in Plateau State.  Enough is Enough.  God Bless Ohanaeze.
Politics › Re: Jonathan Goodluck - The Miracle Man by dejyx: 9:59am On Apr 22, 2010
Dear Nairalanders,

There can't be any miracle to this.  It takes three stages to have power.  Generation, Transmission and Distribution.  One question we must ask ourselves is How much power do we need to generate for our population of about 150 million. Most definitely, 1,500MW, 2,500MW, 3,200MW or even the 6000MW we can't achieve is not enough to make a considerable change in the power sector. Even after generating 80,000MW thats if we can we must still work on our Transmission and Distribution.  

Ghana with a population of about 23 million can boast of Hydroelectricity which is the primary source of Ghana's power. Ghana's current hydroelectric capacity of 1.072 GW is located at Akosombo (912 MW) and Kpong (160 MW). The Ghanaian government is considering additional hydroelectric projects to be built on a Build Operate Transfer (BOT) financing scheme. The $700-million, Bui hydroelectric project would be located on the Black Volta. The Bui project would have a generation capacity of 400 MW. In addition to increasing the domestic electricity supply, power generated from Bui could be exported to Burkina Faso, Mali and Cote d'Ivoire.

Upon all this they have they are still working tirelessly to improve.  For more information go to

http://www.mbendi.com/indy/powr/af/gh/p0005.htm

I am using Ghana as an example because we all know that Ghana has been able to achieve a steady rate of  power supply.
Computers › Multilinks 3g Internet Services In Jos by dejyx(op): 8:29am On Mar 24, 2010
Ive been having trouble trying to connect with my multilinks Modem here in Jos for over a week now. Even if I connect I experience network failure. I spoke with their costumer care explaining that I would require an extension of a couple of days so that I can burn up my airtime but was told to be patient. If any of you work with multilinks please tell them to be a little considerate with their customers by extending the one month so that we can use up our 50 hours since it is not our fault we couldn't consume it within the stipulated time.

I was just wondering what you guys feel.
Autos › I Need A Fairly Used Bmw 3 Series by dejyx(op): 5:23pm On Dec 16, 2009
Hi all,

Just wonder if any of you guys could help me source a BMW 3 series in good working condition.

The model be one from 1998 -2001 Model preferably.

Thank you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Adebayor Celebration Courts Controversy by dejyx: 10:59am On Sep 15, 2009
I am an Arsenal fan. I dont think Adebayor should be banned or fined he should be allowed to express himself.

My message to Adebayor is simply Every Dog Has His Day and He Who laughs Last Laughs Longest.

He should also remember that "before rain fall coconut don get water"
Culture › Re: Uneme: My Tribe, IS NOT Going Extinct ANYMORE! by dejyx: 6:33pm On Aug 08, 2008
Hi everyone,

Saw this and it really tripped me. Am Uneme and proud to be one. Would love it if we could get together form a forum, spread documents about our history and culture so that we could read.

Am saying this cos a great number of us dont know our language. Lets try keep the flag flying.

Long Live UNEME!

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