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PrimadonnaO:
See, first develop friendship with a girl. Give her a reasonable amount of time to get to know you.

Depending on the quality of communications you have, a month or 3 months max should suffice. If she's begun to like you, then trust me she's patiently waiting for you to ask her out.

Then you clearly ask her out.

If she tells you no, and the reason is not because she has a boyfriend already or she just got out of a relationship and needs some time to let wafer flow under the bridge before starting a new relationship, then please quit chasing, because she saw the question coming and has prepared for it.

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You can decide to hang around and strengthen the friendship so you ask again another time, but the chances of her stance changing is quite low, and you may simply end up investing more resources on a wild goose chase.

P.S This only applies to quality babes, not the ones who;

play hard-to-get for a living,

or the ones who think they should give any guy that asks them out a try.

or the ones who say yes because their birthday is close or they want to bill you for a new phone.

No high value man wud do this

Ladies break rules for alphas and make rules for betas

Passing through the friendzone doesn't work 99% of the time ma'am

This just shows u should never receive dating advice from women, they will not tell you the truth

Emotionss:
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Sometimes it's not about masculine women. For example,

A woman born into wealth can never be impressed by wealth alone. To have this sets of women at your back and call, you need an Aura of Mysteriousness and sensuality about you .

How much you wan take impress Governor daughters ?
How much you wan take impress The daughters of the VERY rich and Very Powerful people of our society ?

The ultimate game plan is not to go after the price, BUT TO BE THE ULTIMATE PRICE.

Why wud a governors daughter or wealthy people daughters date down??

AWALT

Rich people date themselves dude.

And yes u need the aura of mysteriousness and sexuality but for a long term relationship I won't advice you date a lady who's Way wealthier than you. Just touch and go and that requires game.

SOZINN:
U are talking about ABUNDANCE MINDSET oga

Abundance mindset is affirmed by having frame, game and wealth

Skepticus:
Contributing a fair share like buying food at home while the man takes care of the bigger share of the bills like rent, school fees etc doesn't make her less feminine either, especially for a woman who is earning income. It's called responsibility.

Well, each one to its own. My happiness about arguments like this is that the facts are laid out for anyone reading to pick what suits is preferential bias. We move.

My wife wud make all the domestic decisions in the home. Decisions like food, cleaning etc.

Any income my wife makes is coming from me ie she's my employee and she's not a career woman.

For example, I'm a big business real estate company owner in my late 30s and I meet a lady who studied business law and she's in her early 20s,feminine and all that. She understands I have frame, game and I'm redpill aware from my actions. For me to marry her she's going to be my business lawyer and she will become a full time law business owner under me once she has had babies for me and they are well grown. That means I m her client and her employer and she's my employee

Junnior:
You are in line with me. But Demzee and co believe if your wife contributes any money, you're a low value beta simp. According to them, you are a Low Value Beta Simp

Yes u are a low value beta male simp if u are sharing financial responsibilities with ur wife or wives.

Major financial responsibilities should b done by the man.

THATS WHY MEN MUST BECOME AND WOMEN JUST ARE. MEN CREATE THEIR VALUE AND WOMEN ARE BORN WITH VALUE.

U SHOULD HAVE MAXIMIZED UR POTENTIALS AROUND 20-40, BUT NO PROBLEM U STILL HAVE BETWEEN 40-50 TO GO.

U NEED TO MAKE URSEF UR OWN MENTAL POINT OF ORIGIN AND ASK URSEF WAT DO U REALLY WAT TO DO WITH YOUR OWN LIFE

Skepticus:
It's okay. Just do you.

At least you know what you are getting into.

I'll leave another point for you. For a good number of modern women, if you give them an environment of comfortability so much that they never earned it, contributed for or only got because of their looks, they'll resent you, use your money to cheat on you with a so-called LOW VALUE dude as you like to say.

You are projecting the values of men unto women. On a deeper level, women see wealth and status differently than men.

A woman cheats on u wen she has lost respect for u and that always comes wen she's not longer in ur frame.

Most men are taught to condone their cheating girlfriends. Once ur woman cheats on you, u dump the bitch immediately. That's called having STANDARDS.

THATS WHY U NEED TO B HIGH VALUE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE BULLSHIT THAT COMES EVENTUALLY FROM WOMEN.

Most men cannot walk away from their wives or girlfriends because they are not high value that's why they tolerate their wives or girlfriends bullshit

Women see wealth from a security point of view. Men see wealth from a social hierarchy point of view.

Skepticus:
DEMZEE is talking about total dominance - Hard Patriarchy which is highly impracticable in the 21st century except you are going to pick a wife from some pre-modern society in the amazon or some hyper-rural parts of Africa. Even to the woman, he is still a HIGH VALUE SLAVE trapped in the insecurity of his ego. With the modern woman already exposed to tropes of women liberation and feminism, it's a waste of valuable time and unnecessary accumulation of mental stress for a man to seek total domination of a woman. It's possible though but you have to work yourself flat out to be mega rich which is not entirely within your control.

Money makes a lot of thing easy for a man and men must strive to make it, though in reality, only a minimal percentage of men would make money to last his lifetime and death. There would always be rank and class among men. The basic thing for a man is to have his own space (SHELTER either yours or rented) and a means of earning income. If you are not there yet, strive to achieve this, from there, you can move into building bigger things within which time, chance and effort can afford you.

That said, I'll clear things up here being red pilled means putting your own needs first as an individual whether rich, managing or flat out broke. I see people talk about making money and self improvement (which is very good) but those are not exclusive to the red pill. Miserable blue pilled SIMPs can find the motivation (like every other men) to make money and self improve. There are a lot more of these types, than rich red pilled dudes. I've also seen super-broke young men who don't seem to chase money or even self-improve but put themselves first among their peers and in their relationship with women - the core of the red pill. To the surprise of some men who think they are high value because they are super-educated and wealthy, they see so-called "low lives" run their own space with beautiful submissive women at their beck and call. It's the same thing that happens when some folks see motor park touts getting wealthy and being influential in society and think because they have PhDs, they deserve to be rewarded more. The reality of life doesn't work that way.

Go for what you want and get it. Even though factors beyond your control may sometimes get in your way, at least you know that you tried. However, in what ever state you find yourself, try to be in control of what is within your limits (taking responsibility), try to get some influence among your peers and strive to get better. A man in charge of his space is HIGH VALUE.

I understand u

In Nigeria here u don't need to be mega rich to get a feminine lady.

There's no such thing as hard patriarchy. Patriarchy is patriarchy!

Life isn't fair that's why men must try to have both game,frame and money. None is better alone than the others that's my point of view.

Junnior:
Thank you.
It seems to me that these guys do not want a woman that has a mind of her own. They want a zombie, more or less.

Calling men LOW VALUE BETA SIMPS because they allow their wives contribute financially is ignorant.
The fact is if you're being alpha, your woman will spend her money for you and still be submissive.
Everyone is claiming alpha these days, but only a few can truly be alpha. It's not by spending your money and refusing your woman's money. There are so many high-value men who are betas. All it takes to be high-value these days is having a lot of money. You get a lotta women as a result. That is often mistaken as alpha.
But that's not what it takes to be alpha. Status, money and looks, together, will make you high-value, but they won't stop you from ignorantly simping. If at all any man is being beta here, it is the man who refuses his woman's money.
The p1mp constantly collects money from women. He is alpha as fvck.

You think allowing her spend money is beta. You think you're being dominant and alpha by funding her whole lifestyle and refusing her money, but the truth is she manipulating the fvck out of you. She knows you too proud and egotistical as hell, so she leverages and acts all dumb like she ain't got an opinion, while sucking you of your resources and keeping hers, until it's time for her to move on. That's female nature.

Men are simple beings we want fit, friendly, feminine ladies.

Only feminine men care about status, money as qualities they look for in their ladies.

Junnior:
Thank you.
It seems to me that these guys do not want a woman that has a mind of her own. They want a zombie, more or less.

Calling men LOW VALUE BETA SIMPS because they allow their wives contribute financially is ignorant.
The fact is if you're being alpha, your woman will spend her money for you and still be submissive.
Everyone is claiming alpha these days, but only a few can truly be alpha. It's not by spending your money and refusing your woman's money. There are so many high-value men who are betas. All it takes to be high-value these days is having a lot of money. You get a lotta women as a result. That is often mistaken as alpha.
But that's not what it takes to be alpha. Status, money and looks, together, will make you high-value, but they won't stop you from ignorantly simping. If at all any man is being beta here, it is the man who refuses his woman's money.
The p1mp constantly collects money from women. He is alpha as fvck.

You think allowing her spend money is beta. You think you're being dominant and alpha by funding her whole lifestyle and refusing her money, but the truth is she manipulating the fvck out of you. She knows you too proud and egotistical as hell, so she leverages and acts all dumb like she ain't got an opinion, while sucking you of your resources and keeping hers, until it's time for her to move on. That's female nature.

That's why u need to have money and status, understand frame, game and b redpill aware.

But by trying to think that a woman Sharing responsibility in ur home will make u wise as a man, u must b very delusional. Goan check divorce stats in the USA and see the reasons why women file for divorce from their husbands 80% of the time.

SOZINN:
E. choke

Women don't build, they just move in especially in this 21st century

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Yes money is very important BUT money is not the most important especially in this age and time women are making their own money....

As a man you need to have another set of qualities that DIFFRENCIATE you from other Men....

That's why I won't consider a masculine woman for a long term relationship

I'm the prize remember

Women are making money is none of my business, infact those ladies are invisible to me wen it comes to long term relationships but for fucking if they are hot why not...... Just touch and go lol

papiforreal:
From the few incidents I have seen, It is always a problem when a woman has money. You have to be high value man to be able to control woman when she has money. Like she has to be madly in love with you.

I know a woman here in the north that her husband is university registrar and she is a chief judge of a state, so she is richer than he is.
The husband decided that he wants take another wife since their religion allowed that, but the wife said she would not allow that. And if he insist she said she has to walk away from the marriage.
And that's exactly what happened. she walked away from marriage.
And I know two women that are richer than their husband and they are all treating them like trash. One of them even sleeps in the BQ.
You see ehn, the only thing that tame women when she is rich is religion. if she fears God and hell fire, thats what would make her not to treat you like trash

Exactly but I wud rather she fears and respect me willingly than hope religion wud make her fear and respect me

Kevincal144444:
Bro, we are all here to learn a thing or two. Be open minded so you can improve yourself. Nobody knows it all.

Don't allow yourself to be a tool in the hands of women. Trust me bro, they will use and dump you like you never existed.

Nobody is saying you should collect your woman's money to build yourself. You have to build yourself up and your home must be up to standard before a woman will agree to roll with you. Women don't follow unproductive men.

But while she's with you, she has to be doing something for herself so she can be spending on you or the household, either directly or indirectly.

I personally don't roll with jobless ladies. I hate them with passion. You must be doing something for yourself. I help you, you help me too. I need help as much as she does.

I believe that doesn't make me less of a man.

I understand you brother

My own is that her contribution to the home financially will be 0.00001% as compared to my own contribution financially.

I want my woman to b feminine and retain her feminine essence.

I don't date career ladies for long term relationships, I prefer a lady who's not career minded

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You need money or the illusion of wealth for dominance but you also need other qualities to maintain that dominance else them go chop you like suya still abandon you when them meet another man.

Money is very important in qualifying a man as a high value man

I will never downplay its importance

drLammy:
Wow! Nice submission bro

I remembered few weeks back a friend came visiting in the evening after he left from work, on getting to my side I noticed he was with his wife.
He later told me that's how he normally picks her up in on his way back home everyday cuz their office is a bit close
Looking at the wife that evening,she looks so tired and worn from days work, I then wondered within me how on earth is this lady going to get home like this and still enter the kitchen to cook
That's never gonna happen
Fact is Most modern girls wudnt share responsibility with you and still allow you 100 percent authority in the house
In essence don't be a modern man

That's why I will never marry a career Lady

My wife will be my employee in my business and add value to my business with Watever skills she possesses

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If the respect a woman have for you as a man is base on your fainancal strength, then I can assure you that you have no value as a man. Because the moment she attracts the attention of a man that has more money than you, she will abandon you without thinking twice.

Oga if you like handle all the fainancal responsibilities in your home your woman will disregard you directly or indirectly if you lack the Alpha qualities.

One of my current girlfriends (a so called feminist) does all the spending in the relationship. yet I have the final say in the relationship.....

All my girlfriends knew about the other girlfriends but they all choose to stay with me even when they don't benefit much from me fainancally and emotionally....

I need you to ask yourself this question.

Why are they still with me even as they don't benefit much from me Materially and emotionally ?

Why are they out doing themselves every week just to win the privilege to spend the weekend with me ?

Answer this questions correctly and maybe you begin to understand what it takes to have an edge of a woman.

Money is one of the qualities a man needs but not the most important.


SIMPs always believe they can control their women with money and that has backfired on them times without number.

One of the major reasons why women are having a filled day in the West is because the men worship their women more than we Africans do.

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As a man u need money to exert dominance and not because of women. Money is the score guys use to rank themselves in the social hierarchy.

Asides having money, also u need to have frame, know game and b redpill aware.

My point is that any man that allows his wife to share financial responsibility with him is a low valued beta male simp. No high value man wud condole such.
She's entering ur world and not the other way around. U are the prize and u have ur rules and standards.

Western men tot by sharing financial responsibility with their wives, she wud value their marriage not knowing once she earns more than u in the marriage the chances of divorce increases to 80% especially in the western societies and yet some dumb weak ass western men still want their wives to be sharing financial responsibility with them..... SMH!

Always remember not every lady is fuckable and not every lady will Bleep u

U can't negotiate genuine desire

If she likes u, she won't make rules for u But rather she will break rules for u

Ur intuition will know this

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You handling all the responsibilities at home doesn't make you the price. In most cases it makes you nothing but an ATM.

If providing for your woman is the is the only basis in which you think you can control your woman, I am very sorry to say this but you will end up a very broken and lonely man in your later days.

While you're busy spending your money on your woman, she is busy SAVING HER OWN MONEY and the day she attracts the attention of a Richer man, or she saved enough to be comfortable, Oga she will discard you like a used tissue paper and move on with her life.

Your being a MAN has already made you the price. Unfortunately society has succeeded in manipulating a lot of men into believing that women are the price.

Work on yourself, mentally, emotionally, logically, physically and I assure you. You will have any woman at your back and call.( even with less than 100k in your account)

Women are not built to handle masculine problems.

She sharing financial responsibility with u forces her to b masculine and it kills her sexual arousal for u.

I'm talking about young women who are in the ages of 18-25yrs whom high value quality men seek for long term relationships.

Women see money from a consumerism point of view and men see money from social status point of view.

Wen it comes to money men use it to rank themselves in the social hierarchy of men

Kevincal144444:
You're funny man.

If you haven't grown to a level where your woman spends her money on you. Then know that you don't own that woman yet.

Everybody needs help, no matter how much you feel you have. I eating their money doesn't mean I can't take care of myself and their needs.

Why they are spending on me mainly is because they have looked into my account or have seen one or two places I have done some kind expenses. So they want to impress me by spending on me. So that I will take them serious.

I eat their money and still move on anytime I like.

I just believe women don't build, they just move in especially in this 21st century

Kevincal144444:
When I take women out for drinks or lunch. As I dey buy things, I will request that she buys me too. I will guilt trip her till she starts spending on me too.

I have the money to take care of both myself and her but I won't do it. She will have to spend her own money on me too.

If you no fit chop her money, then she must not chop yours.

Hence it won't be easy for such a lady to leave you in the relationship.

Women have money. Any woman who tells you she doesn't have money do not like you. So use your head when spending on such woman.

Her money is her money

My money is our money

Ur way of thought is not for high value quality men

Kwinesther:
It's cool letting us know you have a bad mother.

The only good woman that can love unconditional is ur own mother but for u to seek a good woman in a wife is a mirage because women love opportunistically.

pussyphilia:
Na lie be that. Life is not a straight road.
There are females who are meant to lead their men just as their are men who readily submit to a dominant female.

If God didn't want it that way, he wouldn't create such dominant females and submissive males.

Exceptions don't make the rule dude

U are focusing on anomalies and not reality

pussyphilia:
Alpha females are the superior females.

There is no such thing as a superior female

AWALT!

Men lead
Women follow

A king can make a queen but a queen can't make a king

obinna58:
I hate reading bulsh*t like this. Stop being to hard on yourself
It's a man's nature to be a man.


I love sex but due priorities I have to do some things first before I think of sex.


I masturbate to keep alive though and I'm not ashamed of it.

He's saying the hardcore truth but I understand u tho

I will build my value and maximize my sexual mating strategy which is fucking as many bitches as possible to the fullest

I'm all for polygamy

TheDarkGamer:
Thank you for seeing my point. Women these days do not contribute much apart from sex. They know that's their selling point and that's why they glamorize their bodies with make-up, fake body parts etc. They sell themselves and girls and even children growing up are affected by this way of life and it grows on them even without knowing. That's why they say things as I will only marry a rich man and things like that. It's all about the money and what do they do to get that money? They sell themselves by seducing men. Men in turn, take them out for dates (withholding sex for money) and you spend further on them by buying them things before you can even get what you want. Sometimes you might be disappointed. In my book, that's no different from street peddling in any way. But God help us men, we shall understand and overcome this way of life.

Hmmm.. Feminism is such a "delicate" topic but I understand your thinking.

That's why guys must learn Game so has not to b finessed by women

Lol feminism is just a no-no for me

pussyphilia:
Your problem is that you view all women from one angle. There are Alpha females!

WTF is an alpha female for bleeps sake

Junnior:
It is not about burden of performance. It is about commitment. Things are no longer the way they used to be in the olden. Your ideology is that of the old where the man provides everything and the woman just does house work and bring no money to the table. It worked in the past because women didn't have the leeway to divorce their husbands anyhow they liked. Try that with modern women and watch her ditch you for the next richer nigga, because she has nothing to lose and modern society has made it easy for her to get divorced. This is the point.

I understand yall

U guys are not In Nigeria that's why so I know where u are coming from.

I get ur point

TheDarkGamer:
Your point is quite controversial. It can be argued from two sides.

Yes, as a man you are traditionally and naturally responsible for the financial matters in the family. This point of view is what has been passed on to us from our ancestors. The man is the masculine figure and the King of the home. If this is how your family is structured and you're comfortable with that, then it's alright.

On the other hand, the world is different today, especially with the introduction of gender equality reforms and feminism. If the woman is capable to be as proactive as the man then she should be able to also cater/contribute towards financial issues. So people that support the first opinion would oppose this one.

Now having said that, the point is based on your personal preference. In situations like this, you have to run your family according to how comfortable you feel. If you are fine running the family financial issues and paying for all the bills alone, then do it. However, if you are comfortable with your wife/spouse contributing to the bills, they also do it.

Now, How does this relate to red pill?

Remember, In society, females have been groomed through evolution to depend on their male counterparts. It is evident in animals and humans despite whatever some feminists may claim today. Nowadays, we live in a WOMEN'S world without even realizing it. Women have been conditioned to understand that they can cruise through life without too much stress because there will always be men that will provide her needs because of her sexual value. That is the only thing they contribute to the marriage. Sex. Take that away and they are nothing. I don't want to go into this too much (Read The Manipulated Man).

Women believe that marriage is an investment or insurance. That is why women get married and expect the men to run everything around the house for them. I guess it might be alright if she at least does housework but women or girls of today believe in getting help (househelp, maid etc) to run the house while their husbands fend for money and they go shopping, watch TV and gossip with their girlfriends. Now, what exactly do they offer to the family and the home apart from nagging, billing and financial problems etc? Sex. That's it. Now, what is to stop a man from making his money, remaining single and sleeping with random women or prostitutes etc?

The truth is that most women are whores without realizing it? There is no difference between whores in the street and wives like that. The only thing is that such women live with you in your home. You are making the same purchase if you deal with a street LovePeddler because you are buying her clothes, shoes, taking her out, etc (MONEY) which is what you are providing a prostitute but in a different context. That is why such women withhold sex from their husbands because they use it as leverage and to blackmail men. Those marriages will not last or even if they do, will not have substance. You see, those type of women are no different from street whores, they just have different 'packaging'

Now, why have I ranted and said all this? If your wife is the stay home type who flexes and cruises, then it has to be that it is what you are comfortable with and it doesn't affect your lifestyle or bank account. How being an alpha male comes into play is that you should be able to dictate your home. You should only provide money when it is convenient for you and she should not disturb or nag you unnecessarily. If that is what makes you happy or keeps your marriage going, then no problem as long as you are happy.

However, if your wife works and is financially capable to assist the home then it shouldn't be a problem. You are generating more income and conserving time and energy. Now how it becomes a problem is when you are no longer the head of the family or even if you share that role. You still need to be the figure in the family and command that respect. Your wife should not take that away from you. But you should also respect her too, that's important.

But this second idea might not be practical in Nigeria right now until most men truly understand women and know how to play their manipulation game too. It depends on you as a person and how you control your life effectively, if you are strong enough mentally.

I support the idea of feminism but not the way that it takes form in our society today. I believe that feminism is truly understanding being a female and being the best version of your self not looking for validation by comparing yourself with men. Let's face it, there are things suited for women and also suited for men but modern-day feminists are hypocritical and angry women. Only a few truly understand feminism.

What is my point overall? You can still be the alpha male in either situation. If you are the sole provider or you and her share responsibilities. It is not a matter of debate, just do whatever makes you comfortable and still maintain your figure as the head. I apologize if I have typed too much or being repetitive but I hope that you understand my point.

Just do whatever you're doing within the concept of the red pill and when you truly understand the psychology of women, you will know how to treat them.

Cheers. Maintain your game and think with your brain not your d**k.

I understand u fully bro

That's why women must add value asides sex to lockdown a high value man.

I don't support feminism for any reason watsover though

Junnior:
Except she won't be your employee but your wife.

You are not hinting anything of such to her. Actually, it is when you make her not invest in the marriage that you're hinting at being a huge SIMP. She will leverage and suck your funds until she's fed up, bored and ready to move to the next nigga.
It is your kind of thinking that makes pregnant women make ridiculous demands of their husbands. Many men may not really be simps, but once their wives conceive, they become the greatest simps of all time.

I get it: pregnancy is tough. But we aren't contributing equal amounts. I will bring the bulk of the whole amount, but she must contribute to the best of her capacity before, during and after pregnancy. This is to keep things balanced.
Any time she thinks of misbehaving, she will think of all she has put in the marriage.

This is uncomfortable, especially if you're egotistical, I know, but it is the best way to secure your conjugal bliss.


I agree with the bolded. Still, it doesn't mean women contributing financially in their marriages makes men simps.

1) Things will be the way you said if the man shoulders the whole financial responsibility. 2) Things will still be that way if the man shoulders most, but leaves some for the wife to shoulder too. The different likely implication?
In the first case, there is a very high chance of the wife getting bored and moving on to another man with more money. In the second case, there is a low chance of the woman getting bored and just moving on like that, because she's invested.

Your idea is patriarchal, while mine is Machiavellian. In today's world, some patriarchal practices like this one will most likely land you in a ditch, because women now are free to do whatever they want. That's the truth.

My wife is my employee adding value to my world and empire.

My wife is going to invest but won't share in the financial responsibility of the home with me.
Women don't build, they just move in especially in this 21st century.

I prefer patriarchy and it is working for the high value men in Arab nations especially Islamic countries

Skepticus:
The person you tagged is not poor nor average by Nigerian standards plus he is married. Life teaches us all.

I'm not a fan of permanently living with a woman and I have my own reasons for that from my personality to the unrealistic slavery standards set and the dangers lying in it for men in modern marriage. This is not to discourage others from marrying nor engaging with women in some form of permanent relationship. Just know what you are getting into and ways to minimize the risks.

The "hard" patriarchy (Full dominance of the husband or father-figure) which you advocate (I also observe same with young, idealistic red pill converts on this thread and other forum espousing this idea) is highly impracticable in the 21st century (where women rights and emancipation has swept the globe like wildfire from highly conservative societies to the liberal ones) unless you go to some pre-modern society to pick a woman who would wholly worship your feet. One that emmaodet is very aware of being married in this modern age.

DEMZEE, there is nothing beta about a woman contributing in marriage in this modern day. If you disagree, reality will teach you better. If you are meeting a woman in this age, you'll meet one with some form of education, or skill or even both. Where she lacks both, she probably has some exposure. Hard patriarchy was easy those days as survival was basic and at a subsistence level. Society was closed and women's hypergamy was highly restricted. There were consequences for a woman showing negative sides of her hypergamy, so she behaved herself and worshipped the man she was betrothed to.

Today, growing population of humans and economic unpredictability and other factors beyond the capacity of an individual is putting so much stress on men as sole provider. With women entering the work force on merit and feminist quotas, it gets even tougher for men. In reality, Only a very low percentage of men around the globe are able to wholly provide in life and in death. Men are increasingly getting their wives to bring in income to support the family system. A man who don't have that much resources to be able to wholly provide as a hard patriarch in the modern day reality is only a "suffer-head slave" and the more he makes his woman not to "invest" in the relationship will make it easier for the woman to move on, enjoying her "loot" knowing that there is no law even in modern conservative society that will "punish" her for leaving her man (the liberal ones would even "celebrate" her for being a "strong independent woman who knows her right" ).

For me, it is okay for men who seek to marry (or permanently cohabit with women) to do that to take the physical and psychological pressure that comes with a diminishing hard patriarchy and masculine ego in light of social and economic realities but make sure that they work hard to contribute the highest share of provisioning and leading with their partners in tow. I was raised by a dominant father who had that kind of arrangement with my mum. If my mum had not contributed in a way, she could leave at anytime without consequences as she has no "investment" worthy of securing in her relationship with my dad.

I'm not saying women shouldn't contribute in marriage, Wat I m against is men Sharing financial responsibility with their wives.

Women are hypergamous for bleeps sake so why wud she share financial responsibilities with u and most men who say this believe in equality. They want their burden of performance to b edged by their wives. That's why anytime I talk, I only consider people who plan to b wealthy in life and not people who want to be poor or average in life or people who life have dosed off their reality and they had to settle for Wat life gave them

Junnior:
I'm trying to understand you better:

Are you saying your wife should never bring any amount of money to the table?


Providing is not entirely masculine responsibility.

The female must provide as well.

If you want her to be committed and you want it not easy for her to ditch you and move on to another nigga, you have to get her investing financially as well. If she's paying 30%, it's not bad. She would have a say in critical decisions, but your say would still be regarded more.

For instance, do you watch documentaries? The male Lion provides territorial security, but kind of sleeps all day. Guess who goes about hunting for food? The lioness. She brings the food for the lion to eat before she and her cubs eat.
The Lion and the lioness both contribute. Nonetheless, the Lion remains king.
These days, money gets you general security. Also, money gets you food.
Someone here once posted a story of how he knew a man who would provide for stuff in the house except food. He makes sure his wife uses her own money to feed the whole family well.
This makes her commited. She will make an effort to make sure the marriage works. She will most likely be submissive. If she misbehaves and he kicks her out, or if she seeks another nigga, she will be losing a lot. So, she will try to be in her best behaviour.

In conclusion, you are not a beta male if your wife contributes financially in your marriage.

I'm looking at it from an entrepreneur's angle. My wife will b my employee and b useful to me in my business.

I just feel men especially high value men don't share financial responsibility with their wives. Because most women don't want to work after and during pregnancy so why wud u now want ur wife to share financial responsibility with you. U are hinting to her in her hindbrain that u are a low valued beta male simp wen u share financial responsibility with her.

Men need money to address dominance in life and not because of women.
The person with the most financial power, asides understanding frame, game and being redpill aware etc, is the one who's in control andajes the critical decisions in the home

Men lead
Women follow

A wife is meant to bask in ur world and beautify it with her femininity and skills.

PS : All my sayings are for men who want to b high valued Men