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I never know when the ground go ready for IBB. But IBB has to enter the pot before OBJ. In fact, OBJ is needed to help us push IBB into the pot. Then maybe as IBB falls inside, while OBJ is still at the edge catching his breath, that is when EFCC should tip him over too into the hot soup he helped prepare.

@angel101

there are uncountable lifts in Lagos State; no! Even in Victoria Island alone, there are innumerable in Abuja, I've been to PH twice so I know dem dey try too.

Now nobody should come and quote me as saying that Gbenga Daniel built all these lifts because I know say na word una dey find for my mouth.

You know what? Ojukwu is still alive. He's not like Hitler and Emperor Constantine that cannot be asked questions today. The man is alive you people should beg him, cry to him and appeal to him to reveal the truth about the Biafran War. And it's been nice chatting with you all.

You and I know that there are Ibos in the Niger-Delta. You are not smart enough to con me into making such a fallacious statement that there are NO Ibos in the Niger-Delta.

You're still learning the ropes and so you can't use those beginners tricks on me.

What you said which am correcting is that a large part of the Niger-Delta today are Ibo-speaking. Do you know what a large part of something means?

If I had 10 oranges and I have you a large part of my total oranges, you know what that means.

It would have been no harm if you said there are some Ibo-speaking people in the Niger-Delta. Don't expect me to sit down and look when somebody blurts out those kinds of easily verifiable lies.

And don't draw me into discussion or arguments of how the oil is now being used and who is now owning the oil well.

If I made a mistake or told a lie somewhere. Correct me. I will check and if I was wrong I will say I was wrong but if I am right I will hold my ground. Don't used me to spin a conspiracy that there are no Ibos in the Niger-Delta or try to drag me into an argument which you have more knowledge so you can win. Let's stick to the issues.

@Planner

I use God beg you, no use me toast babe. If you cannot see that I've already answered that question then rest.

Secondly, Britain Colonised Nigeria and after Independence they continued to annex the Nigerian economy, Shell discovered crude oil in Nigeria and was about to become the sole extractor of crude oil in Nigeria. Can you please explain to me why these people would collude to cook up a war in Nigeria? Their OWN Nigeria.
To achieve what?

See, there are some debates that are not meant for everybody. Why don't you check out the threads in the Romance section or Entertainment boards?

By the way you guys should check Obasanjo's accounts today. Under with loan overdrafts that's why an idiot would not compare his bank account then, with his bank account now.
They chose to compare his bank account then, with his total worth now.
Oh! They also forgot to mention his liabilities.

"intelligent sources" my foot!

Eiya, Romeo, you know that sometimes we forget to explain to our brothers from the rural states in Nigeria.

At least you know those bank main entrance glass, metal detector doors, they install those too. But there are some urban states that you will be able to count thousands of elevators and some escalators.

Eiya,

Reverend Jolly Nyame, he thinks that Nigeria is like before that when you are caught, you apologise and return some of the money.

If this report is genuine, then Taraba Governor has not yet become a hardcore politician.
The type that they will ask: "is this not a video of you depositing $30 million cash in switzerland?"
He will say: "I have never been to switzerland. My only trip abroad was to Ghana. This is my enemies' handwork."

The guy just thought he could pinch a little off the national cake as retirement fund. E never know anything. I say within the next 3 years, EFCC go knock for Baba door.

@McKren

I am not here to argue that the Ibos are bad. That I hate them. No.

So please do not institute a mini Oputa Panel for me here. Don't ask me questions that are not intended to point out errors that I've made, but to tie me into a different rumble. I came here to correct people's mistakes not to draw in new lines of argument.

Majority of the people of the Niger-Delta were not and have never been Ibos. I am originally from the Niger-Delta and I definitely am not Ibo-Speaking.

This is an adaptation of a message I posted on a different but similar thread to my dear friend Afam

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I'm really sorry to tell you this, but the secession of southern Nigeria from the grips of the British. SCOA (Societe Commerciales de l'Afrique de l'Ouest), TOTAL, Peugeot were the companies in the forefront of charging the French government to use any means necessary to get them a share of the Nigerian market because while colonial French Africa was very large, it was also largely unprofitable.

But it was after oil was discovered in Southern Nigeria around Independence that Total spearheaded to support for a recession of Southern Nigeria.

All along, what the French companies wanted was to be allowed to enter any part of Nigeria to do business without British harassment and biased taxing. But with the discovery of Oil, they decided they wanted Southern Nigeria! Especially Total. It was since 1960 that France started plotting the secession of Southern Nigeria till they found the right man to use. Ojukwu's proposal at Aburi was scripted by France. War had been declared in a boardroom in France more than five years before Ojukwu learnt about it, before the Aburi Accord was thought of, before the confederacy scam was crafted.

The Ibos fought for their freedom yes! They fought to prevent total annihilation. But do they know that Ojukwu, Total, Sweden and France with its colonies put them in Jeopardy to fight for their lives?

It is just too bad.

@McKren

yes Gowon was for Shell, Britain and even Russia. But Shell and Britain and Gowon did not have to instigate and start a civil war in order to benefit from the Crude Oil in the Niger-Delta.

@Fromuk

I'll be bored of life if I get to 70. If I live up to 90, I'll prescribe to euthanasia.

Afam,

I'm really sorry to tell you this, but the secession of southern Nigeria from the grips of the British. SCOA (Societe Commerciales de l'Afrique de l'Ouest), TOTAL, Peugeot were the countries in the forefront of charging the French government to use any means necessary to get them a share of the Nigerian market because while colonial French Africa was very large, it was also largely unprofitable.

But it was after oil was discovered in Southern Nigeria around Independence that Total spearheaded to support for a recession of Southern Nigeria.

All along, what the French companies wanted was to be allowed to enter any part of Nigeria to do business without British harassment and biased taxing. But with the discovery of Oil, they decided they wanted Southern Nigeria! Especially Total. It was since 1960 that France started plotting the secession of Southern Nigeria till they found the right man to use. Ojukwu's proposal at Aburi was scripted by France. War had been declared in a boardroom in France more than five years before Ojukwu learnt about it before the Aburi Accord was thought of, before the confederacy scam was thought of.

The Ibos fought for their freedom yes! To prevent total annihilation. But do they know that Ojukwu, Total and France with its colonies put them in Jeopardy to fight for their lives?

It is just too bad.

Let him tell the truth or else, no matter how old and frail he becomes, I will always see him as a selfish scheming crook who tried to use people emotions to become emperor for life in Biafra, the largest oil producing Nation in Africa. And he lost about 2 million lives while at it, but his was so precious that he preserved it till this very day, not forgetting to marry a beauty queen too and live a very bountiful life.

Till Ojukwu tells the Ibos the real reasons for the Biafran War, he will continue to collapse in the presence of God.

God has given him an unnecessarily long life and he still has not deemed it fit to confess.

One way or the other, he will be made to confess.

Well, I love Ibos. My mom and our first born (who is half-caste) speak Igbo fluently. But it saddens me there are people like Ojukwu who put the Ibos in past, present and future jeopardy and he still hasn't told them the truth.

During the merger of Total Fina Elf in the 90's, the expatriates in Nigeria held meetings with the top Nigerian Management staff and urged them to voted against a merger with Total because of their ruthless means of achieving ends. My elder sister was in this meeting. They were shown old slides and video clips of meetings between Total and the French Government on how to topple Shell and the British Government out of Nigeria. Using any means necessary including sponsoring a secession.

They showed slides pictures and video clips of meetings with Ojukwu.

They showed swiss and french mercenaries being trained and sent to Biafra as AID workers.

The Ibos fought with a clear conscience, but I tell you, this war was concocted in far away France and Ojukwu was a partner and the primary aim of the sponsors of this war was OIL. The primary aim of their agent Odimegwu Ojukwu was to become president for life of his own little oil rich nation, Biafra. Millions of innocent people died on both sides without knowing what they were fighting for.

Ojukwu should tell the truth before he dies so that people will now start knowing the real reason WHY. Till he does, he will continue to collapse in the presence of God.

God bless Nigeria!

I am almost tempted to contribute to this debate but of what benefit will it be?

If we even find a picture of JUDGE Bush planting demolition explosives in the atrium of the building will it achieve world peace? Or will there be disastrous calamity?

The problems 911 caused have almost been resolved. And lately I've realised it won't do much good to bring them up again.

All of them are not pure. In as much as we should let the matter die, it irritates me when they keep trying to create new events like the new Glasgow attacks and use 911 to substantiate it. Because if the father is a goat and the mother is a goat, the offspring too must be a goat. If 911 was a hoax and 7/7 was a hoax, then Glasgow was a scripted drama. But anyhow, y'all don't even get me started.

@honeric

the matter of Lucky Igbinedion is simple. There is no need setting trap for the bush meat that is securely in the cage.

Lucky is so dull and stole so blatantly that in the next 100 there will be excessive evidence of what he stole.

Please I suggest right now, they go after governors like Orji Kalu who can within 2 years, completely launder all the money they stole and make it look legal.

If you want me to prove to you that I am Bin Laden's younger brother, I will do it. As long as it is your heartfelt desire.

Yes O! Mrs MILITIA, me and Seun were moderators of the same group as at 2003/2004.

It was after that Seun told me he had built Nairaland and sent me an invite. I went there, took a tour and just decided to be checking it out as a guest because I had my own about 3 groups and a forum to moderate.

So now that I have handed moderatorship of most of them to the up and coming generation (no third term) I decided it was time to correct some anomalies I'd been noticing in Nairaland i.e factitious stories that some members pass off as truths. So here I am today. Brand new Nairaland member who has prowled the site for about 2 years.

Shey you people are trying to connect me to Gbenga Daniel? Now I am trying to connect myself properly and you want to deny me.

@MILITIA

Are you serious? Considering that I only officially joined this forum last month, I the I gat velocity.

Yeee! While I was sleeping davidylan just fed militia with the opportunity to make 8 posts free of charge. I no gree O!

Where is this Ugwumba guy. Let him come here and argue with me too. All he's been saying are all lies. I must make 10 posts under this thread too.

Ugwumba, while you're there name dropping, ask Seun, when he completed building this site, Nairaland, I was among the first 100 people he invited. I had to turn down the invitation because I was a moderator and a member of several Nigerian groups.

Now to come to the issue of educating Nigerians through the internet, it is people like you that make my job difficult. I patrol the internet disinforming Nigerians whom people like you have fed with fundamentally flawed thereom such as the $2 billion which bulks up our foreign debt. I have seen the way you bamboozle people with fantastic fulminations. You are truly very good at this because I've seen you argue that two events were not a coincidence and you supported that argument with data and lofty assertions. Then you turned around on this same very thread and argued that these two events are pure coincidence with backing data and statistics accompanied by sound argument. So no doubt you're good.

You are are trained arguer and professional debunker. I hail thee!

I am the deputy governor of Ogun state. That's the connection.

I learnt about my first biggest lesson in politics yesterday.
This information that you are trying to get at, will it serve the greater good or not?

How is this revelation you seek going to benefit the larger society on the long run?

Governor #1: Lucky Igbinedion
Governor #2: OBJ is the best fit
Governor #3: Donald Duke.

Yet Ghandi Achieved what he set out to achieve. People respected and adored him.

Please start from the first civil servant related to you.

@initiator

it is good that you're suggesting this now, 3 years after it came into implementation.

The standard of living is below the law? Please it's not every human being that has the gift of wordplay. You'd rather the standard of living went above the law?

If we were not a bunch of fools, then we would have become followers while they became leaders; we wouldn't have chosen to become the tail while they chose to become the head.

They came late. OPEC has already declared the US illegal.

Ah! Ah! Seun no go ban these people? If na me now, one hand.