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manmacho: are you joking; allah approve another man's wife for the prophet!!!!! somebody please clarify this

Divorce is allowed in Islam. After zaid divorced his wife, the prophet married her.

Note that Zaid was a slave of the prophet whom the prophet adopted.

A biological son is not the same as an adopted one. How uneasy is that for anyone to understand.

@truthman, not only are you marvelling in ignorance, you are also bringing others into it. I am really sorry for you.

The reasons for the hijab are clearly stated in Islam. one of which is modesty. It is also a way of Muslims identifying each other and is a show of obedience to Allah.

It is not possible that anyone would lust after a woman well covered like those in the picture above. It allows for the purity of tje soul.

has anyone confirmed this pls?

Does it mean that the Oba chooses for the whole nation?


Unbelievable. A constitution guiding the leadership must be drafted. This must not continue.

And to think she's held a post as a market board chair?


What did she achieve in that position sef

django1: The way some peeps were hating on IB yesterday cos of shoprite ehn, you go fear oo.

Some ppl were asking why not PH or why not calabar instead of IB, same thing they said when KFC opened its first branch, "its going to close soon", "people only come to take pictures", now they've opened a better branch at bodija (a drive through).

Goods at shoprite are amazingly cheap, its a huge threat to local marketers, and a blessing to consumers.

IB is going places.

Don't mind the haters jare. Ibadan peeps are self made. Any real people serving business venture will thrive.

Ibadan is an investor's paradise

vosquare: ibadan yoruba 4uni pas comedi...soprite

Isn't it dumb to think people speak that way in Ibadan? Apart from the sutin for shooting, no other silliness is allowed from any hating quarter..

[quote author=I-B.]Beside cocoa house in Dugbe.
Mr Price and film house are also around cocoa house.

But film house should reduce their charges for a movie, N500 on weekends and N1000 in the week. That is too much


Foodco has been in Ibadan for over 6months or more now. One is at Odua complex around best way and the one around I think eleyele.
Kfc also has also opened its two branches, one at Bodija along Awolowo avenue and the other one around dugbe.

The pic below is the foodco at odua complex, don't mind my poor pic.[/quote]Foodco has been in Ibadan for many years. The one at oodua complex is just the newest.

vosquare: dat local nd dirty ib...y dem no kum abk

Who is this one?

Are you seriously comparing ibadan with Abeokuta?
You must be dreaming.

bukatyne: I am just seeing this and I must say your head is clearly in the clouds.

When did an healthy discourse btw muslims and non-muslims become a sin?

It's your type that become book harams

Uplawal matter, I try to avoid. You wouldn't believe she used to be a Christian with her attitude towards non Muslims.

I though it opened long ago o. I got the hand bill yesterday and have plans of going to see today.


I hope Ayam safe o

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Ogbeche77: Report has it that customers who visited shoprite on it first day of opening in ibadan were over 102,000, but they recorded just N35,000 sale

Suprite ni ilu ibadan, Aku sopping ooo... Sopping atu wa lara ooo

Stopu lying jor. Oniro oShi.

Jarus: Didn't get the email actually, but picked the email from here and sent the details to the address.

Thanks

@jarus, I sent you an email this morning and I haven't gotten a reply.

Anyone who can send the details should pls send to deols001naija@yahoo.com

I need it ASAP or I may not get to do it anymore.

Thanks in advance.

dayokanu: Naija men have nothing to prove, they have married lower level women regularly,

I needed you as an example of a Naija woman to marry some of those bricklayers with rippling muscles and 6 packs

The result of such marriages doesn't help at all.

inferiority complex exhibited by such men are so much heard of. It makes other women think twice.

A marriage of so many years broke down and the problem stems from the issue of Class.

I went to the link tosin provided and searched for Mary's age. He is right. Joseph was @least 90.

And why do they have to be doctors?

The way the Op is written is soooo captivating. I like it

Well, I agree with Afam. Try to know what's up with your BF.

I wish you the best.

mikelreal: smh their re so many alfas that do dz sh!t jare in my area. with thier long beards like osama. some muslims re pure crooks,they gotu mosque 10times a day. buh re full of poo, y'all shud repent! b!tches

mikelreal: smh their re so many alfas that do dz sh!t jare in my area. with thier long beards like osama. some muslims re pure crooks,they gotu mosque 10times a day. buh re full of poo, y'all shud repent! b!tches

And you don't think it is high time you left that area?

When you see people with beards , you call them alfa forgetting not all of them are good Muslims. who is to blame for your ignorance if not you and you only?If beards was a yardstick then Soyinka is a MUslim and Jewish scholars, Muslims.

Oahray: Chillax. I do as I please. I simply followed your logic. If the opinion of some who try to justify the pm sex, to you, fully represents christianity, leaving out the opinion of others who do not, why can the opinion of my muslim friends not represent Islam?
Double standard much?

I believe friendship is like clothing. For me, there is no hard and fast rule as to what one should wear as long as it decent. Buh then, like decency, healthiness (of friendship) is subjective.

I take it that you are commenting based on your own exposure (limited due to upbringing). It's a dirty world out there. Hiding behind a hijab does not shield one from it.

The difference between good and bad is in the power of choice. If one does not do bad because he isn't allowed to, it doesn't make him an upright man. If he has the chance to but rejects the lure no matter how enticing, then he is upright.

I hope you got my point this time.

I'm not attacking your person or convictions. Hope you realise it. You have a right to them. Asking how you knew that they did not engage in any form of "evil" might sound insulting, so I would not ask.

Being a technical virgin does not equal chastity, neither does a loss of it equal decadence. What of those that got raped? Can they get married as virgins too? Religion and reality are not parallel lines. It's unfortunate we make it seem so.

I'd leave you with this:
NO HUMAN IS A YARDSTICK FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

You think I was judging Christianity by the people who agree to PM sex? No.

This isn't the first time I have heard Christians talk about the equality of all sins and this is the first time anyone(you) is denying it. So, don't blame me for my thoughts on it. To satisfy you, I had even responded with a maybe.

I have said on this thread that it isn't about the hymen. It goes beyond it, I agree. But why is it hard to believe that people who stay chaste until marriage exist?

Well, I know they do and they are celebrated around me. I wasn't using me or anyone else as a yardstick. I gave the examples because you asked. Don't be quick to forget that.

Again, I was making a general statement about my thoughts on the need to be louder and clearer. If it made you feel evil, then it is food for thought. I wasn't going to apologise anyway. You seem to hammer too much on what isn't' going to happen.

Again, I didn't force my idea on anyone .I replied op and responded those who quoted me. The only xception was on the virginity talk. Your reaction then is just as now. It makes your situation more understandable.

You have lost it jor. Op asked religious views and that is why I gave it. So you expected me to give experiences like you did? It would have made you happy to see a partner in the act? Hell no. I ain't like you.

Inspiration from you? I can't fit laugh.

So you are confident? and that is the response you have for someone with a high self esteem? Oya, clap for yourself ; D


obviously, you cant make simple deductions from what people say. Talking redemption, I meant you were gone past the stage when any advice given here can be helpful. Except you are thinking divorce and remarriage sha. Then you would have opportunities to test and retest drive. It sounds like your speciality.

Call me hypocrite or whatever. You are against name calling but doing exactly that? It doesnt matter anyway. I am not one to cry foul over irrelevances. From experience on this forum, I have seen that many who can't believe others aren't involved in the evils mistakes they perpetrate turn back on the others, calling them hypocrites. To them, that is the only explanation that makes Sense.

Now I can't help you feeling inferior. Eiyah, so u already imagine me on a high horse? Like I have been saying, I can't help it. I know my personality oozes out and makes you uncomfortable. I never want to feel like you do.


[quote author=Efemena_xy]Trust me, I'm not shouting. If I were, I'd use capital letters or bold fonts, and even if I were speaking to my younger sister, cat or donkey, I won't have to shout to get my point across. Understand?

No one's asking you to be sorry or apologize for what you've written, and neither could I care less (for an apology from you), nor do I feel 'guilty' about anything I've done. What I'm calling you out on is to explain what you meant by the word 'evils'. Don't hide behind generalizations or claim to be speaking in general terms. That's quite low even for you, deols.

If you're gonna speak hotly and feverently about an issue you hold dear to heart, the least you can do is explain yourself in clear terms without any ambiguity. You owe your readers that at the very le[b][/b]ast! [/b]

Bearing in mind the word "evil" means: To be profoundly sinful, immoral and malevolent including induldging in an act of extreme, wickedness, and depravity, esp. when regarded as a supernatural force. Strong choice of words to use, innit? So I'll ask you once more again deols,

What exactly did you mean by the sentence, "If people can say the [b]evils they do loud and clear..."?




On the contrary, I'm not the one whose lost my marbles here. You are, dear girl. Pre-marital sex constitutes basic marriage 101 advice classes given out by religious heads / authorities to couples seeking to get hitched. Are you a religious head, deols? or in a position of authority to advice ram your stringent opinions down people's throats? No? I didn't think so.

This thread calls for people to contribute their ideas and views on the topic of pre-marital sex and it's alternatives. Folks here give their advice or share their experiences. What experience have you shared deols? Apart throwing out excerpts from your religious books? You assume everyone here is religious like you? You?? Lol! So what 'advice' do you have for the non-religious people here? Or they don't count? Of course they don't because deols thinks this topic concerns her more than anyone else here on this forum. Get real lady.

And one more thing, I don't have to be 'inspirational' to the lies of you. Come to think of it, I don't give a monkey's what you 'think' is right or wrong. What I do find offensive is you trying to lord your inexperience over the experienced. What personal experience(s) do you have to share? I mean REAL LIFE experiences? Who really cares to know what your aunts, cousins, or friends tell you? As far as I'm concerned, if you've not been directly involved, your 'experiences' at best are not even second hand but third-hand...primarily because you are not in that situation. People only tell you what they think you ought to know. You have no idea what goes on behind your aunts, cousins and friends closed doors, okay?

So based on that, you should be the one to keep mute. Understand?



Awww...I see I struck a raw nerve there. Well then, if you really are that self-esteemed, you don't have to tell us. Your actions should speak louder than words. I know my worth and full of self confidence. I know what I want and go for it. It's never failed or backfired at me. What does that tell you? And most importantly, can you say the same for yourself??



No? You haven't forced your moral values on anyone? Yet in the same breath, you call people with differing views 'evil' and beyond redemption? Yes, I too saw your earlier comment regarding those who do not think the same way as you but chose to ignore it. I even smiled at it earlier this afternoon and decided to indulge you. Afterall, one doesn't have to respond to every cannon ball thrown in their direction, do they? But what I will not ignore, is you going one step further to label them as 'evil'. Who the hell do you think you are?? No need ask sef. Ans: Hypocrite.

You went beyond airing your views. Labelling or name calling is not airing your views and yes, I do have a problem with that and I'm telling you straight up to your face.




Now you go back and read my earlier post. I stated in crystal clear terms that I don't have all the answers, am learning a thing or two here and have advocated for all angles to be looked upon, discerned and cross examined thoroughly. But you on the other hand, from your religiously high moral horse look down on us 'heathens' because you inwardly feel you're better, yes?

I don't know, nor do I care to know jack about you girl. Your posts alone tell me everything I need to know about your personality. If you think my calling you out to defend yourself equates to projecting on you, so be it. But defend your claims, you must.







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NL member: Sorry for hurting your feelings. I am just trying to liberate you from a religion that thinks you should be beaten by your husband if you misbehave and teaches that you and your fellow women are bad luck.

Does your response make any sense at all? Can you stick to topic?

Logic less

NL member: Also the Koranic verses describing houris usually say that houris are so fair of skin that their bone marrows are visible through their skins

And so what? Do white people have skin that their bones show through?

Should thin eyed people start to feel cheated?

How about people who believe they are ugly? Should they start feeling rejected?

And oh, men should start feeling bad cos the houris are female.


Nl/ logic /pagan(whoever you are), we are Muslims, driven by Faith and satisfied with our parAdise as it is. Better work your way to it as well.

Who cares?

[quote author=Efemena_xy]Careful now there, girl. What 'evils' are you referring to here? Who made you judge, jury and executioner of people's life choices?[/quote]You don't have to shout, you know. while I am not speaking with my aunts here, so are you not speaking with your younger sis. If you think what I said is directed at you, know that what you understand from what I write, I am not sorry for. That was a general statement. Well, someone said some replies here are outta guilt.

It's interesting to see a non-married girl 'dishing' out marriage advice to the married ones. I laugh in Greek!

What marriage advice? You sound confused. This is about pre marital sex. It concerns me more than it does you. You are long past redeeming on this note. If you cannot be inspirational in a good way, you can as well just keep mute.

I sincerely hope 'steadfast virgins' like you don't have to contend with situations where in a desperate bid to preserve your saintly-non-test-driving-status pre-marriage, you end up having to endure the gnawing loneliness that arises from imposed sex.ual hunger from a non-responsive spouse.

No. I Won't have to endure nada. In case you never knew, I am a highly self esteemed woman. You can hope for good, thank you but it is not your place, actually.

But then again, looks like your moral values will keep you warm at night when you find that your sex.ual needs are been neglected. Having said that, no one here is bound to comply by your yardstick of morality. If your stringent views worked well for your aunts, cousins and friends, good on them. But you aren't discussing with your aunts, cousins and friends on this forum. You're discussing with strangers, people you don't know jack about.

My moral values, I haven't forced on anyone. I have ignored your comments and the likes since getting on this thread. I only aired my views. How come that becomes a problem to you? Did you even look at the reply that led to the response you quoted?

Look, marriage isn't a cage. It is supposed to be a beautiful and happy commitment. But whether you like it or not, sex plays an integral part of it. I say integral because it's powerful enough to break a marriage. Anyone who lies to his/her heart trying to ignore his/her own sex.ual needs because of marriage vows, even while being faithful to their spouse is being dishonest to themselves. Examples of such have already be given in this thread.

Marriage isn't a cage, I agree. Stop talking like you have all the answers. You know not jack about me either. Stop projecting on me.

Anyway, whatever path you choose for yourself in future based on your idealistic morality values, just make sure that you stay true to yourself and are happy with whatever comes you

r way.

I know to be happy already. I have made choices that have proven best for me all the while. Staying truly happy is everyone's goal anyway. I have no doubts about achieving that by God's grace.

Well, Islam taught that years ago. Good development.