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Oahray: abeg eeee. Quit the subtle whatever-it-is-you-are-doing. As if I don't have Muslim friends. They also rationalise about stuff like this.

Truth is, the Bible doesn't say all sins are the same. It even says there is a sin that can't be forgiven. It doesn't advocate premarital sex either, and even terms sexual acts outside intercourse as 'loose conduct and uncleanness'. Your post made sense but comparing based on the opinion of some who see nothing wrong with it, and ignoring the ones who do, is just not right.

Btw, it's easy to talk about overcoming temptation, especially online, when you haven't faced one. What happens when you have the chance to do what is wrong? That's what counts. Have real friendship with non-relatives of the opposite sex and come back to tell us how easy it is to avoid those things.

That is even assuming you are one of the persons you know that have never engaged in the mentioned acts.

dayokanu: ANV - Association of Nigerian Virgins


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babyosisi: Nice contributions

Summary is that nearly everyone here believes premarital sex is sin
Everyone not everyone contributing so far,indulged in one way or another before marriage with their intended
Some think they were already set on marrying the man and don't think they did wrong
Others feel they erred and should have waited

coogar: shouldn't there be a law for men/women like this? surely this is some sort of fraud. misrepresenting one's self to enter into a contract is fraudulent anywhere else but marriage!

@Coogar,
blind faith is not practical as well.......i am starting to think this issue might be one of the reasons the divorce rate has skyrocketed in nigeria. people marrying with their eyes closed without knowing what they are getting into. God has given me 5 sensory organs and a pënis. i intend to use these resources to get myself a tested and trusted partner that i would live it for the rest of my life without hiccups. to the people who want to marry out of word of mouth, i salute y'all!

what sins?
that's if she even sees it as that. like i have highlighted, fornication does not start and stop with sex. crushing on someone is lust and it's fornication. how many women who crush see it as committing a sin?

the world has moved way beyond trusting people's word of mouth. proper checks have to be done. 30 years ago, you are what the passport you are carrying says you are. these days you have to do biometrics, fingerprints, etc......i am very practical - marriage is a lifetime process. i refuse to remain stuck with a damaged good because i failed to do my due diligence.

dayokanu: Divorce is not an option, Cheating is not an option yet Test driving is not an option. Hmmmm

May God help us

dayokanu: How long can you endure 1minute sex for?

or a toothpick sized abunna?

Would you still take it to be a test from God or you would get frustrated and long for the filling schlong

dayokanu: Deols but not everyone know they have a problem

The brother who spills in 1 minute would still have normal errections, And wont know

he has a problem without test running

coogar: and if one of the partner or both deliberately withholds the information, what happens? still rely on islamic scriptures?

which is easier to do? to test run and be sure or go through a long tedious divorce? the way people throw the word "divorce" around makes me laugh - divorce costs money!

I believe the Istikhara works wonders. People can rely on it

babyosisi: One questioni
Do you have children now?

I had plans of marrying a multi millionaire but I ended up with someone on a molue bus

solidbroda: thank you for the comment. However, before I elaborate on this, could you kindly clarify what you mean by "being used for a purpose"? What purpose actually? And do u know how it feels to have an holistic view of the world than seeing the world in one angle like a child who's Autistic by nature?

deSika: friend how do you explain this

Quran 19:33
peace on me the day [1] i was born, and [2] the day i die, and the day [3] i shall be raised alive.

he was supposed to die before being raised up. so why the shortcut. he jumped dieing and was now raised. something is not right, cant yu see it

CAMEROONPRIDE: i have been banned again deols , help me.



@pagan, why muslims didn't destruct the pyramides and the sphinx like they did with the buddha statues in afghanistan ?

Daresh: Speaking as a mother, I know that you can not let. Children Always have their way. It gives them a sense of entitlement which does not exist in the real world. I remember as a child my. Mum refusing to let me have chocolates when the freezer was stuffed full and her only reason being "I don't want to spoil you"! EXASPERATING!!! I swore I would not do the same but now, I find myself doing same to my daughter. She wants to drink ribena every miniute. I know I have indulged her to some extent cos honestly I hate to hear her cry. And she has exploited it like no mans business. She doesn't do what I ask her to do, she is stubborn and obstinate. Now I have learnt to ignore her when I feel she has had enuough. To smack her when she is stubborn and to give her a time out in her room when she starts screaming. So my love, you can "spoil" your kids, but don't let them take it for granted.
My sister told me the story of a little boy who's parents took him abroad at the end of every term for holidays. One year, the family was bumped to 1st class from economy class as per frequent fliers! The little boy went back to school and started boasting to all little friends that he no longer flies economy class just first class. Holiday period rolled around and dear Daddy bought the usual economy class. Little boy refused to fly economy cos his classmates on the same flight would laugh at him. The little boy caused such a ruckus that his grandpa bumped his flight to business class for him. Is that how you want to spoil your children? Into believing what you do out of love is their right?
Sometimes we need to be tough and deprive them little so don't don't come out soft, mushy and feeling entitled. Maybe the day you can't provide your girl turns to aristo and the boy turns to Anini. Follow Gods word in raising kids on this one. One more thing, my grandfather was a very very rich man in the east, my uncle his son was made to carry stones in a barrow to sell in the market. He told me, that he hated his father then, but now he realises that it was just character building. He told me that the things his Dad made him do made him the man he is today. (In between, he petted and spoilt his daughters. My mum inclusive )

chaircover: "make them as Comfortable as possible" for example is flying direct to Nigeria instead of stop overs and hanging round airports waiting for connections and its things like that that I was referring to when I said "maybe" they are spoilt or maybe not" . .it depends on how individuals see it. Is it comfort? is it luxury? is it just being a good parent? who knows?

parenting is an individual thing so long you always have an eye on the ball and are looking at the overall goal, which is to turn out well adjusted responsible adults then you do what you feel is best.

fellis: Apparently people took that my post serious.
It was a joke o! I don't belong in any muslim sect. If you click the link I put there you'd see that everything I wrote about the sect is in direct contradiction of what they actually do.
Thanks for looking out for me deols