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OLAADEGBU:
Where is the evolution? The original design was perfect.

https://www.facebook.com/1mill.creationist/

...there were cameras 433 million years ago which was used to capture the image of the ancient scorpion?

Lies somewhere!!
Woman lied to girl about being her mother or
Girl lied to us about the whole story.

After all pastors usually raid their shrines and burn down their sacred instruments of worship.
Unfortunately, someone died here.

Heartbender:
Then you should not argue at all. You can't speak of fire and neglect smoke

You'd be too naive to think that the subject of God can't be discussed without bible. In that case, I can't discuss with you.

Heartbender:
And on the seventh day He rested. From your argument, why will God rest? Read the Bible to understand your God fully

If you understand my argument, you'd see that I ain't arguing with bible as reference point.

aureen:
You are right.
People need to understand that if they don't have sex they will not die After all when Jesus Christ of Nazareth was on earth he never had sex and that didn't affect his life in anyway( John 5:19 So Jesus explained, "I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself. He does only what he sees the Father doing. Whatever the Father does, the Son also does)

Who told you that Jesus never had sex?

The idea of God has really been bastardized.
A being so powerful that it created the universe needs food too?
A being so powerful that it created everything else that exists cannot sin (behave in a way that some of it's creatures feel is bad) so that it won't piss off who exactly?

The ancient and mystical Church of Satan

Seen

Darkchild64,

Next time, it would be better if you compose your post and it's title in such a way that stimulates enlightening intellectual discourse and not just hateful debates.

darkchild64:
As defined by the dictionary
In religion a soul is the spirit or essence of an individual that comprises of the person's thought and personality

If this is what you'd define as a soul, I believe that it exists.
The phenomenon may not be well understood at the moment and hence might be slightly misrepresented with a religious/spiritual term by early thinkers.
That not withstanding, I believe there to be an immaterial essence which is as a result of our cumulative experiences and consciousness over years. Whether this essence can exist independently of the human brain and biological system is unclear to me.

It would be nice to provide a working definition of a soul here which we could either agree with or amend.

Cc:
Cutemadridista

OLAADEGBU:
Did the likes of Stephen Hawking conclude that there was no God before embarking on his scientific enquiry?

Before you continue mentioning names, I still hold that a correct scientific process involves enquiry before conclusion.

hakeem4:
[s]
"I want to be an astrophysicist so that I can prove to the scientific world that God does exist,"[/s]

very biased and unscientific!!
A scientist doesn't conclude before enquiry.

HigherEd:
See mumu. North Korea is an atheist state - can you see how repressive and unprogressive it is. I have no problem with govt banning Islam and sending the atheists to prison though

Bush man, no religion is NOT equal to atheism
Unlearn and relearn

butterflylion:
At the words in bold, that is wrong. Clauses protect and prevent such terminations. A 5 year clause must be seen through even to the detriment of the club or player.

No player simply just walks away anytime they feel like it.

In slavery, agreements are made between slave master and buyer. The slaves opinion doesn't really count.
Whereas, in employment, agreements are made between employee and employer.
Those are two different things.

awesomeJ:
The slavery that the Bible regulates on was basically employment.

Slavery had a governing contract, so does employment, and buying football players. Technically, football players are merely properties of their various clubs, yet they live more comfortably than most folks without such a contract. This should help you get the right perspectives, when the Bible says that slaves were properties of the masters. Doesn't necessarily mean the relationship was inhumane.

You should rather say that there are similarities in the relationships of Slave/Master and Employee/Employer.
The fact that someone works for me doesn't mean I own the person.

What sort of bible regulations suggests that slavery was employment?

Are you an advocate of slavery? like it happened in Libya.
Is it proper to exchange humans for money?

awesomeJ:
The slaves did have their rights until it was sold by themselves or by someone of influence over them for MONEY.

The slave masters did not kidnap those slaves, they paid to have their services for a stipulated timeframe.

How's that different from modern day employment?

You choose to give up years of your time for your employers pay. Should you then complain that you don't have the liberty to do the things you'd actually want with your time?

And in case you want to say that, at least people can resign from their jobs now, then too slaves could be redeemed. So please, have the right perspective, it was just employment.

What the hell did I just read?
You awesomeJ should not resort to such dishonesty in your bid to defend bible. Sincerely, it's appalling that you'd suggest that slavery is no different from employment.

Employment is NOT same as Slavery.

shadeyinka:
Every mammal is a sexual being. But OPs argument is that since animals do it (and they don't need deliverance), therefore homosexuality found in some animals prove that they are normal human behaviors.

Maybe I'll leave emmayayodeji to comment more on that, I still have to say he means that the video of the masturbating monkey is one of the reasons why masturbation is a natural thing among mammals (including humans).

A monkey is sexually aroused, had the biological instinct and masturbated to satisfy this urge.

A human is sexually aroused, had _____ and masturbated to satisfy this urge.

How would you complete that sentence?

winner01:
Yes it is correct and has been adequately argued to be wrong.


There are other biological phenomena observed in animals that are totally unnatural for humans.
This is my point.

Isn't your first sentence conflicting?

Something biological is natural.
How then do you determine the totally unnatural phenomena?
When someone masturbates, it's often out of a sexual urge and a need to satisfy such, especially in the absence of a sex mate. Is that unnatural?

shadeyinka:
If animals does things expected of them no problem BUT when humans begin to imitate animals normal behaviour, its not normal!

People masturbate not because they copy from animals. They often do so from their biological instinct to pleasure themselves sexually.
Personally, I'm seeing an animal masturbate for the first time in the OPs video.

winner01:
There are places in the world where paedophilia occurs and we know that paedophilia is common in animals. So why do we domonize paedophilia in humans alone when its common to (not monkeys alone but) a wide host of other animals?

Are you not thinking in the line of the poster with this question?
Demonizing such biological phenomena in humans - is it correct?

PS: I don't justify acts in humans simply because they're common to animals. We all have our moral compass as individuals and we use them as we deem rational.

winner01:
Quote my words and let me floor your arguments.

I do not think feeding on young ones is natural because animals do it. I bet you won't feed on your young ones too. And I never mentioned anything spiritual.

The original post is hinged on the posters observation that masturbation as an act which is common in humans and monkeys apparently is demonized in humans alone.

I don't know how else you react to that but you seem to assume that the poster justifies the act in humans because it's common in monkeys.

winner01:
One of my male turkeys tried to have sex with a much younger one that is not capable of laying an egg. My goats practice paedophilia too and even have sex with their mothers.


Komodo dragons feed on their young ones, I don't think they are f*ked in the head neither do I think feeding on young ones is natural because I saw some animal do it. I am human and I think your thread is outrightly an error.

When these animals display these behaviours, you believe it's not natural?
So its spiritual?

shadeyinka:
It doesn't matter. Its a proof that they are abnormal. Same for using animals as measuring standards for human being as the OP has recommended.

Common guys!! he simply pointed out a common natural phenomenon between two species and stresses that we blame demons for the phenomenon in one and not in the other.

felixomor:
I'm glad u didnt say "all people"

And Sorry he is justifying.
You may read his post again. And the correction I gave him or pretend like u didnt see it as u just did.

Your opinion is noted in that case.

felixomor:
Lies.
Masturbation doesn't "happen"
You "do it".
Its a conscious decision.
Besides are u justifying human behavior with animals?

People do it, animals do it - it's a natural instinct; just like you'd eat when you're hungry.
He isn't justifying anything.

shadeyinka:
If you see a couple doing it naked on the public street won't you conclude that they need deliverance? SMH

I'd conclude they need mental/psychiatric evaluation NOT deliverance.

Butterflylion is right as a theist simply because atheists are right.

Even here on nairaland he confirms himself. Butterflylion does nothing but talk about atheists all day every day yet he says they are wrong. Any atheist that opens any thread about religion, trust the butterflylion vulture to fly to it as always

The guy cannot do without Atheists!

OLAADEGBU:
So you now believe that you are wise as God, no?

Do you believe Genesis 3: 22 ?

PastorAIO:
1. the day you eat thereof you will certainly die.

They did not die.

2. You will not certainly die.
The 'not' came before the certainly, not the 'die'. So what the serpent said is that it was NOT CERTAIN that they would die. in other words, it was not an statistical certainty. They may yet die but it is not certain.

3. Serpent say once the fruit of the tree is eaten they will become like gods as in they will be able to know good and evil.

This was affirmed by the Elohim when they said that Man as become like them in that they now know good and evil.


4. We discover that the tree of good and evil had nothing to do with life or death prospects but rather it was the tree of life that determined whether or not they would live forever. The serpent said nothing to Adam and eve about the tree of life, neither did elohim. However everything the serpent said about the tree of good and evil was true while what Elohim said about it was false.

In which case, the father and origin of Lies wasn't Satan but the one that you OLAADEGBU worship as God.


cc OLAADEGBU