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Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 5:31pm On Apr 05, 2008
@seguno2
Well, am sorry if you feel slighted by my words (though I don't need your confirmation to be called a Christian).
If you want statistics of the good works of this particular Church, why not make it a date with them in one of these Sundays or visit any of their branches closer to you and make an enquiry about their hospitality. You can also visit the Faith Tabernacle itself for a conviction.
I don't live in Nigeria at present, hence can't present you with any data. But before I left, I can categorically tell you that there is no part of the country that indigent members did'nt enjoy the good works of the Church.
Nevertheless, if you still want to know more about their good works, you can visit http://faithoyedepo.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=8 or send me a mail stating your location.

About the link you gave refering to the comments of 4Him to TayoD, I will like to state categorically that there is a of hear-say spread as rumour which of course is never near the truth. I have being a member of the Church for decades and the Church has only involved in raising men than cheating them. The truth is that many have tried to take an advantage of the Church as before (since their believe is that money is there), but no more possible.
If you anyone wants to prove his case, let him come out as the principal player with his evidences, then we will know the truth.

Peace!
Christianity EtcRe: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by detruth: 9:45am On Apr 05, 2008
seguno2:
@ detruth
You should realise that truth has to be complete and not make reference only to partial facts of the matter in order to achieve your set objective(s).
What some of us are saying is that based on complete facts of the Bible, tithe is NOT required of [b]CHRIST[/b]ians - i.e followers of Christ in deed and words.
What gives you the impression that you know what is complete?. Thank God its a fact, and NEVER the truth!

KunleOshob:
@detruth
you also said some of us claim old testament blessings but when it comes to tithing we say it is not meant for us as christians. Well in case you don't know tithes was a covenant between God and the levites (and only descendants of Levi could ever be refered to as levites) Malachi 2 : 1 -8 the levites also had there own role to play before they could collect tithes and no one that was not a descendant of Levi was entitled to the part of the tithe meant for the house of God. I wonder how our pastors today qualify to be descendants of levi !!!

The point i am trying to make is that tithing is a covenant between God and the descendants of levi ( that makes it an old testament law as there are no descendants of Levi in the christian world today)and i believe it is wrong for pastors today to claim to be levites just because they want to collect tithes. detruth, you sound like someone who understands the bible to a certain extent, i am sure if you read your bible well you would agree with us that tithing as it obtains in today's church is completely unscriptural and is not required of us as christians. But then again you may be a pastor benefiting from tithes then you would prefer to lead your flock astray in the name of titihing.
I will answer your question if you can tell me whom the scripture is refering to as "Jews" here:
Rom 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.(KJV)


Is it the "Jews" in present day Israel or another? Note here that Paul was writting to the Romans!
If you are not a "Jew" (wherein we find the "Levites" as tribe), then you are not qualified for the blessings of the God of Israel.
This is one of the fundamental truth why we are linked to Jesus and are called Christians
or did Jesus came to the world in the nature of your yourba tribe?
Your problem is that you took Bible like your History/Geography textbook and begin to interpreate it in the knowlegde of the flesh.
That "Book" you are quoting is not written in the flesh, but by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Hence you will always require the help of the "Writer"
in order for you to understand what its really saying.

2 Tim 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, sadKJV)

2 Peter 1:20-21
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost (KJV)

2 Cor 3:6
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life(KJV)


Nevertheless, remember that I am totally against those who use tithe for selfish reasons or look for crooked way of syphoning money from people
under the disguise of blessing them. The best you can do is to leave such place. But to conclude that tithe is only meant for the biblical Levite is like saying God only send Jesus to the biblical Israel.
Levites are Priest, and Priest represent the present-day Gospel ministers, but the tithe is not meant for them, but for the management of the Church which include the congregation (you and I).

Mal 3:10
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.(KJV)


The tithes is not for the Pastor (or whosoever)'s pocket. Its for the storehouse!. Also note that tithe is what God ask you to bring to the storehouse, not just any donation(as many of you claim). The tithe is meant for the management of the Church (which may include the payment of Pastor's salary). The Pastor is also expected to pay his own tithe also. The problem of the these new generation Churches is that they run the whole administration alone with their family, hence they lack control and restriction concerning God's fund. They are those that brought shame to priesthood proffession.

May God give you the grace to understand!
Christianity EtcRe: What Is Holy Spirit And What Is The Holy Ghost? by detruth: 8:57am On Apr 05, 2008
Just like asking the difference between "male" and "masculine". Synonyms! "spirit" and "ghost" are both the same.
Christianity EtcRe: The Dangers Of Relying On Faith by detruth: 4:19pm On Apr 04, 2008
Those who are not in faith can NEVER truly explain one!
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 4:12pm On Apr 04, 2008
A_K_O:
I just think that the[b] pictorial [/b] comparisons at the beginning of this thread were ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS AND OUT OF PLACE.
I believe that came from your little mind which I quess has never made a meaningful impact to your world before.

seguno2:
I can't know because new generation churches don't blow their trumpet on that. Could it be there is nothing to talk about in that respect? They prefer to focus on me, mine & I am bigger/greater than you & yours.
Maybe these churches should be more upfront about how many widows, orphans and indigent members they have assisted with income-generating-activities, scholarships etc?
Please don't behave like a blind.  This beauty is not of a denomination, its about "the Church" of God in general. Just imagine the number of people that gives their lives to God each Sunday? Its in hundreds!
I wonder why many calling themselves Nairalanders, have never one day sat down and think on how to affect their world like Seun.
May these poor little minds wake up in order to make Nigeria a better place tomorrow!
Dating And Meet-up ZoneRe: Matured Virgins: Looking For Husbands by detruth: 3:30pm On Apr 04, 2008
Why no contact of any sort? I believe there are still some secrets kept away concerning these women. Benefiting answers will only be realised if a private forum is presented. I heard they want ibos and catholics! Does beggers have choice?
PoliticsNigeria Heading For Revolution! by detruth(op): 10:21am On Apr 04, 2008
Nigeria heading For Revolution!

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200804041243296

Imagine the likes calling for revolution? I believe their heads, including that of Obasanjo must go first!
Group of successful and unsuccessful theives! Who among them is a saint?
ComputersMy Yahoomail Is No More Recieving Mails by detruth(op): 11:12am On Apr 02, 2008
Please can someone kindly tell me or help tell the reason why my Yahoomail is no more recieving mails here in Bangui. This incident started about a month ago. I can send mai through it but will never recieve mails sent to me expect spams. Is it due to the server or something/someone removing my mails? I can't understand!. Please I will like someone to tell me the reason why. I can't continue opening new mail address everytime.
Likewise can somone suggest any better mail to use apart from Yahoomails?
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 2:09pm On Mar 28, 2008
seguno2:
Jeremiah 9: 23-24

23 Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:
24 But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord.

I guess quotes like the above have no place in today's Christendom.
Moreso in Nigeria hence the correlation between growth in churches and deepening of the rot in the society. We are all too selfishly engaged in my car/house/school etc big pass your own, no matter how I got it. This runs against the sacrificial spirit of Christ's life & teachings on neighbourly love.
Maybe I need to remember you and like-minds like yours that if it has not being for the present of good numbers of Christians in this country, then our case would have being like that of sodom and gomorah.
If you can't appreciate such a place where over 50,000 souls gather to worship every Sunday, then your faith must be fake. Expect a blind man, there is no doubt that Nigeria is gradually leaving where it was yesterday.
Did you know the kilometers of road contructed by this same Church in Ota - ogun state?, Did you know how much left the purse of this ministry to Tsunamis & Hurricane Katerina victims? Did you know millions of naira that gose out of this ministry evry year to cater for student ranging from secondary school levels to university? There is no doubt that some so called "christians" are not only hypocrites but also ingrates and selfish, yet most of them have never led a soul to Christ before except arguing and condenming!
Christianity EtcRe: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by detruth: 7:53pm On Mar 26, 2008
@ seguno2
I can't get you clearly? but I do believe that nobody can claim what belongs to God for himself. (Lev. 27:30)
Christianity EtcRe: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by detruth: 1:52pm On Mar 26, 2008
@All
2 Tim 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.(KJV)


The Church of God is now infiltrated with many ungodly gimmicks with peoples money being the Preacher's target.
Some even ask people to bring money for a miracle touch, miracle oil, miracle handkerchief e.t.c! What an abuse joined with wickedness!
Nevertheless, if you claim that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (who are Jews) is your God, for you to now restrict God's law
about tithing to Jews alone makes a double standard. It shows the selfishness and absolute greed in man's heart.

Gal 3:14
He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. (NIV)

They want Abraham's blessing, yet they refuses Abrahams ways;
Gen 14:19-20
And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.(KJV)


Rom 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.(KJV)

I conclude that the scripture "The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil" (1 Tim 6:10) both applies to such evil Preachers and likewise those who look for flimsy excuses in order not to pay tithe.

Finally @the poster & his like minded fans,
I will like to conclude that the same problem the same problem of all these fake Preachers is the same working in your life. If you are indeed a Christian, you will know that you can break a standard in a bid to prove another point sub-standard.
There is a book I will like both the fool and the wise on this thread to read. It is called "MIDAS' TOUCH" written by Kenneth E. Hagins.
It shows the way many Preachers steals from the people through crooked ways and likewise shows how many people steal from God stylishly.
There is always a balance in the Word of God (2 Tim. 2:15)
Just like a man who wants everything he touches to turn gold, very soon he will realise that there other things more important in life. The mind behind the hand selfishly looking for other people's money through crooked means is likewise same as the mind looking for satanic reasons to hold back what belongs to God and also going further to convince others to do the same.

Mark 9:42
"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck.(NIV)


Open your mind to this truth, Tithe is not an offering, neither is it considered as a gift to God. NEVER! To everyone who believes  Gal. 3:14, & Mal. 3:8-12 and claims the promise therein, your tithe belongs to God, its not a gift to Him, its His own (except you are telling me your life is owned by you!). Hence you are called a robber when you steal it. You do'nt steal if its a gift, but you are a robber because you took it by force justifying your act with flimsy excuses just like the way normal high-way robbers concludes in their minds before carrying out their devilish acts.
If the people doing it testifies that they are being blessed through the act, why disguise yourselves as Christian in order to make others err? Only satan acts like that. Leave every man alone with his faith! And let people becareful of what they hear!

If we do a good search about all these negative posters, they have no Church and neither are they Christians. If that is false, let them tell us their Church name, address, church email address (for confirmation) and likewise their Pastor's name! In another case, they may likewise be trying to force their "organisation"'s belief and doctrines on us, thereby encouraging other never-serious unbelievers alike to join their chorus. The fake is a good prove that the genuine exist!
A lifestyle of integrity is not only meant for Pastors but also for the members of the congregation. Every man will soon stand alone to answer for himself.
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Will Split Soon! by detruth: 8:30am On Mar 26, 2008
Nigeria1.:
How the system above would work is , every party would present a president and 3 vice president , When anything happens to the president the vice pre from the same region take over. Now we have President yar Adua, The PDP should nominate One person from region 1 and Vice pre Jonathan from Region 2 and David mark from Region 3 . I do not know who is from Region 1 but I think in order would be Bayero Usman Nafada deputy speaker of the house.

So it would go this way
President Yar Adua
and three vice president Jonathan, david mark and Bayero Nafada with 6 years ONE term each for president and governor of the state.
Which kind of theory is all these you have being saying since? On what premises can this be founded?
Which country has practised this kind of system successfully before? What authority backs your reccomendations?
All I see (and many others I suppose) about your show is total babyish! Please study to talk sense!
We are talking about the destiny of over 140 million people, not a village.
PoliticsRe: Health Minister & Deputy Fired By Yar Adua by detruth: 6:10am On Mar 26, 2008
I love the way the woman resigned even though she is not the accountant-general of the ministry. No wonder she said she accepted the responsibility and not the blame. Moreover, I score Yah'adua for taking such a step Obasanjo could have swept under the carpet. We wait for more to come!
Christianity EtcRe: Dear Olabowale by detruth: 2:50pm On Mar 22, 2008
SysUser:
Just like a typical .m.u.s.lim (son of belial) behaves, when the bible suite your lies , you quote and use it, however when it does not suite your purposes , you claim it is corrupted,


By the way babs787, the is no need to be equivocating and dodging,, YOU CAN EASILY PICK AND CHOOSE FROM SOME OF THE LIES AND CONTRADICTIONS OF I.S.L.A.M THAT I HAVE ALREADY POSTED, WITHOUT NEED FOR ME TO CONTACT YOU AGAIN, AT LEAST THOSE ONES THAT I HAVE ALREADY POSTED ARE ALSO OPEN FOR DISCUSSION , SO PICK , CHOOSE AND DISCUSS, .
For where? They can't question it! Their great prophet came last to copy and manipulate the works of the Original.
You have indeed dug out their carcass! Thanks for standing alone with the truth
PoliticsRe: What Do You Think About Obama's Latest Speech On His Pastor's Comments? by detruth: 12:33pm On Mar 22, 2008
Kobojunkie:
What part of the speech was incredible and very insightful?? I mean What did he say that we have never heard before? What points were made in this speech?? Help those of us who don't get it understand it please
Maybe I can supply an anwser thruogh your own words;
"Agressive minority should not force their views and tastes on everyone !" cheesy
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Will Split Soon! by detruth: 2:52pm On Mar 20, 2008
Germannig:
You are correct. But pray, tell, why do countries in other continents split without war, but African countries have to fight wars before they can split? What does that tell you?
That is why splitting is not the answer here in Africa knowing that war is inevitable.
Other countries understand politics better, but our own understanding is in how to steal public funds,
hence its a matter of guns and granades; life and death.
In addition, one thing is certain about wars, you may know when it will start,
but no one can tell the end of it.
Before you know it, UN and other so called "Peace Keepers" move in and guess their destination?
Niger Delta-the very bone of contention, at least to keep the oil for you (since you are too immature to keep and share it)

I believe God knows how to settle our case and remove those "evil bugs" with time.
He has done it before concerning Abacha when people cannot voice out the mind like this.
How much more will he do it again.
Peace!
PoliticsRe: Nigeria Will Split Soon! by detruth: 2:26pm On Mar 20, 2008
The truth is that Nigeria is a unique country. Our uniqueness is in our diversity and forever will it be.
If not that God's hand is over this country, little matters that tore other countries apart would have also made us refuges.
We have come too far than than now becoming victims of war.
I love this country with no respect for any prophet of doom.

JayFK:
You make no sense whatsoever, matter of fact the reasons you stated above are profoundly stupid. I don't think you fully understand Nigeria's problems or the reasons for splitting. Nigeria has over 300 different ethnic groups, most of them having no linguistic ties to the other, most of them considering themselves a nation within Nigeria. Look at all the countries through history that have split from each other, it is always because of ETHNICITY, why is Kosovo splitting from Serbia? 90percent of Kosovo is ethnic Albanian, Czechoslovakia, The Basques from Spain, Ambazonia, Quebec from Canada all of these are based on Ethnicity and Language. If you don't want Nigeria to split give a valid reason instead of doling out stupid analogies that bear no resemblance to Nigeria's situation.
Mr. JayFK "Ojukwu", You wan make Nigeria split, yet you go stay for Canada! Na wahh ooo!  huh
You forgot that when country splits in Africa, its with blood and death of innocent souls.
I wish you mention Eritrea and Ethiopia as part of your examples.
Since everybody is stupid and only you is wise, please just promise us to that you are ready for the sacrifice,
even if it has be that of all your family members, then carry-go, we will follow your proposition lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: The Reality Of Easter by detruth: 1:47pm On Mar 20, 2008
babs787:
Are you ready for a debate on your above post?
Must everything be debated upon? Why not allow free expression? Those who have nothing makes the most of noise.
PoliticsRe: Edo State Election Petition Tribunal by detruth: 12:50pm On Mar 20, 2008
Any news yet? Who is loosing, who is winning?
Christianity EtcRe: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by detruth: 8:14pm On Mar 03, 2008
@ Poster
I heard you mention "truth", I believe that must be a mistake! Your location is millions of mile far from truth. I am not surprise when I see people who simply choose to be confusionist? Surely a sinking man will always hold on to anything/anybody to sink with him.
The just is meant to live by his faith. If you see it that way, fine! Why try to make others believe your concocted fables by force? Why not stop being like that "thing" that spoke to Eve in the garden of Eden that what God said is not true!
If you think Jesus never support tithing, please shine your eyes at these scriptures, and try all you again to confuse us again:

Matt 23:23
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. (KJV)
Luke 11:42
But woe unto you Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and every herb, and pass over justice and the love of God: but these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone (American Standard Version)
Luke 11:42
"But woe to you Pharisees! For though you are careful to tithe even the smallest part of your income, you completely forget about justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but you should not leave these other things undone. (The Living Bible)

In conclution Jesus said in Mark 13:37
And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch! (KJV) Let all readers watch what they read from different "minds". Not all men are from God! There are many wolves in sheep's clothings.

Mr Poster! if you are not a tither you under a serious curse unknowingly. There is this thing about a curse, things may be fine now, but be careful!
Trees that will last generations doesn't grow up quickly like corn
To hell with the "NEWS" magazine, even witches and wizards use it to advertise their products.
PoliticsRe: Yar'dua's Carrot and Tribunal Verdict by detruth: 2:00pm On Feb 26, 2008
Have being watching this discussion for a while, thanks for the love we all have to put Nigeria back into shape.
But we need to know that all these politicians are birds of the same feathers.
The same kind of rigged election that made Atiku number 2 during Obasanjo regime is now what he is now contending.
I still support Nigeria than any politician. Common sense than any politicians seeking for selfish justice

azorjiu:
For those calling for the deepening of our democracy by the sack of Yaradua, go to Kenya and feed your sight. The key word is COMMON SENSE as some people have rightly said.
I truly agree with your comments azorjiu, our judiciary is trying, and we should not only love them when they deliever
judgement to our intrest. Remember 6 governors and even the No 3 are on their way out.
This simple truth I wish to employ every Nigerians to cry against,
Can't all this ex-soldiers, millitary or paramillitary leave our politics along? Please kindly permit me to say they seems to be
agents of our political absurdity and poor democracy outlook.
If you want to see the "dividends of such democracy", Kenya is too far,
check out on what just started in your neighbourhood - Cameroun a day ago!
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 7:22pm On Feb 21, 2008
teejay119:
Alagba 4Him. You amaze me all the time with your knowledge. Let me help you Yes it is true we have the Guiness book of record at heart ,so what are u going to do about it. The mandate God gave oyedepo is bigger than what you are reading in Guiness book of record . Let me help you out ,that building was done in 90days another record right no single penny from abroad another record right we were never short of money, no appeal fund no chief luncher expect God. Bonnke said this is the hand of God. TL Osborn said God is in this place, Daddy GO said this is the hand work of God. Creflor Dollar called it the wonder of God through man. Relax my brother you are yet to see anything yet. More witty inventions will be done by the church. Oh another record that land use to be the the headquarters of Witches and Wizard in Ota. Ponder on this and get more scriptures for us. Till then rejoice with us.
Haba! teejay, you no know say some people's anointing no dey see GOD or good things? na so so devil them they see?
I learnt of recent that there are people sent to drain God's life out of someone through  coolBLIND cool arguements?
Anybody can quote anything from the Bible including drunkards.
I so much believe everbody is free to thank God for whatsoever thing they think He has done for them, except devil that may be angry about it!
The truth is we are still giving that glory to God, not to them nor to any devil. Who are they to determine our stand with God? Hypocrites!
For God's sake, why should people be angry for thanking God? "Bad belle"!
Thank God I am delievered! lipsrsealed
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 10:55am On Feb 19, 2008
skyone:
However you still haven't answered my question " Who do you give glory to when you passed your exams or bought a new house"!
Did you mean glory? 4Him"self" of course! grin grin grin
Christianity EtcThe Brain Behind Canaanland Robbery Found! by detruth(op): 10:19am On Feb 16, 2008
The scripture says;
Ps 101:8
"I will early destroy all the wicked of the land; that I may cut off all wicked doers from the city of the LORD"

For all those who hate evil, have seen this?
The brain behind Canaanland robbery discovered!

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200802161314787
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 9:30am On Feb 16, 2008
teejay119:
My goodness wetin be all this scripture Mr 4Him. Listening when God gave Oyedepo the mandate he was not thinking about guiness book of record he was thinking about God's record and so far God has prove Himself through his servant and you can't doubt it. If you have a 50,000 ministry and 250 000 siting outside do you want them to sit in the sun and under rain the question is no so God gave a man the wisdom to build such a building and yet people like you are crying. Those who donate money and time are still receiving their reward up till today . I worked at the site for free over the weekend and God servant prayed for all of us. I told God donated my time for your house I need my own house. Today I have my own house in Nigeria. secondly my application has been stuck at the US embassy for 4 years two weeks after the dedication of cannanland I got my visa. When you see a prophet of God you can't compare them to all those road side pastor Oyedepo live for God. You can't have such a man and still doubt him. In America they have Billy Graham, Oral Robert, KC PRICE, Benny Hinn, Morris Cerrelo, Td jakes, copeland and Dollar yet they have many homosexuals. Oyedepo and Adeboye are not the reason why Nigeria is corrupt, It is high time you call a spade a spade. Honor those who God honor when you see God's hand on someone appreciate Him by so doing you are telling God That you need is touch. The best is yet to come there are more things you will hear about the church. Detruth God bless you, you have defended the commission of His servant, the same God That Defend His servant will defend you. Keep sharing it, whether they like it or not Winners is there already.
Do'nt mind the guy, he has no respect for anointing nor for the anointed. Such are those that can never be happy if any thing good happen to their friend, instead they become jealous and start preaching heavens. If you have no fear of God for such His servant, we can't be decieve that he fears God that he can't see.

I believe "4himself" heard your testimony. I am here far away from the country today, just by the blessing of same service. The guy is full of himself whereas there is nothing worth listening to in his interior.
Can you imagine such a blind and heretic statement that Bill Gates wealth is not from God? It simply means Bill Gates created himself, gave himself life, and can die only by himself. I doubt if that is from a Christian mouth.
I wanted to hear him says whatever Satan (Lucifer) is, is not given to him by God! The understanding he lack is that whatsoever is evil today, was not so from the beginning. Principalities and evil powers (including wicthes) were not created, they were the becomings of fallen angels (which in the beginnig were created good by God)

Isa 14:12-15
"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."


Rev 12:4
"And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: . . . "


All is postings shows that he is only full of letters (mind you, it kills), but lacks the spirit. I once told him, he is a true example of new generation Pharisee! Always jealous about what is good, blaming others for what did not work for them. Let him just tell us one way he has affected himself, talkless of his generation.

I promise not to reply him personally again! He is free to argue with those his atheist folks and stop squabbling with that incontestable.
Ride on ojare in His testimony-teejay 119. Back is for the backbiters. That they are biting our back is an evidence that we are in the front. Success will always attracts biters. They are free to be hitting the floor, while we advance in their front!
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 7:06pm On Feb 15, 2008
4Him:
detruth is not an admirer of God's work because God did not build that building. detruth is an admirer of a man-made architectural master-piece . . .

Without God . . . Abu Dhabi is today building the world's first oasis in the desert . . . without God we have the leaning tower of Pisa . . .
When I saw where you are picking your inspirations from, it tells me more about you and your kind folks. (Thank God its what Yomi says and not what God says)

Lets not take this show too personal.
Thank God am an admirer of man-made bla bla bla
This is because I have a better understanding that

" A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven"(John 3:27) and that

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God." (Rom 13:1)

If this is not true, please try and break one of President Bush's order tommorrow all because he's not born again.
4him, na wha for you o! out of looking for what to justify yourself with, you nearly even God is not their creator in Abu Dhabi! May God forgive that ignoranceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I believe its in your Bible that God allowed the Tower of Babel to an extent before He came down to stop it. Americans will still continue believing their country is God's own Country even with the 9/11 terrorist attack. Was God sleeping then? Brother, don't be too rigid, nothing happens here on earth or in heaven outside God's knowledge.
SportsRe: Latest Fifa Ranking: Ghana 14th Nigeria 45th by detruth: 11:32am On Feb 14, 2008
Nations Cup: Lulu begs Nigerians
By Agency reporter
Published: Thursday, 14 Feb 2008
Nigeria Football Association Chairman, Sani Lulu, has tendered an apology to Nigerians for the Super Eagles‘ poor performance at the Ghana 2008 Nations Cup finals.

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Sani Lulu

Speaking at the Local Organising Committee for the Nigeria 2009 FIFA U-17 World Cup meeting on Tuesday, the NFA boss admitted that Nigerians had high expectations before the team‘s departure for Ghana but regretted the team‘s performance at the event.

He said, ”The NFA is disappointed at the team‘s performance but we can only look forward. I apologise to Nigerians for the poor showing and I want to say that we have learnt a few lessons from the dismal outing.”

http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200802141352971



Please help me ask this Lulu, for what stupid reason is this apology? What is his glory? Can they even think at all? Well corruption dey blind eyes!
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 6:55pm On Feb 12, 2008
Thank God! I made my point to the reasonables!  cool
I once learnt from a wise man that everybody can't just go the same route with you!

Dem want make we take them serious! na lie, we no go take! tongue
Either them cry or weep, the Church dey march on!
I beg, I love Niger jare! tongue
Uhhhh the thing just dey pepper some people belle grin grin grin
SportsRe: Borrow A Leaf From Egypt, Use Our Home Based Eagles by detruth: 7:15pm On Feb 11, 2008
I think its a good idea!
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 7:11pm On Feb 11, 2008
@Skyone,

Ask why I have any reply for them again?
Those who do'nt respect the anointed do'nt go far in life
Many of them are still coming back to Nigeria to beg for "real" work.
Let's wait and see!
(when their eyes open) shocked shocked shocked
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 2:51pm On Feb 08, 2008
This thread was never intended for such in the beginning. Infact from start I beg for the opinions
of only those who saw it from my view. But trust, they will never stop. "Criticisim and holier than thou" principles
is what they are taught in their Bible Study classes. Is it a must to post on every thread you see? If you do'nt accept/believe it,
simply pass on and let others have their ways.
@gamine
Bless you! How is canaanland? Saw your post on the "incident" in Canaanland.
Thank God for your life! Peace!
Christianity EtcRe: Faith Tabernacle Puts Nigeria In Guinness Book Of World Records by detruth(op): 12:15pm On Feb 08, 2008
skyone:
From above it shows your level of understanding about JESUS CHRIST and as a matter of fact you need to acquire more knowledge about CHRIST. however i'M still learning myself so feel confident to gain more knowledge about HIM.

when you show me the large synagogue Christ built: Christ is the founder and the head of church.

the schools he set up: A Profound and Formidable Teacher. Example of school- The 12 desciples.

his hospitals: No He doesn't need one- HE is the true healer, if u need one communicate with him, he's there to increase your knowledge and understanding.

cattle, goat, sheep : Now i know you have no idea who CHRIST is, please find out properly.

Detruth: may God continue to bless you Amen.
skyone:
@TCUBE

Whenever you passed an exam or get a promotion at work or when a baby boy or girl is added to your family or when you complete your project e.g 5 bed duplex what do you say? i'm sure you normally say " Thank God or all glory be to God right or wrong. Now, is God not interested in your building or promotion.

My friend God is MARVELOUS AND GRACIOUS in fact he loves great things that's why he created us and gave us knowledge to event great positive things in life.

Detruth is an admirer of God's work and he's giving back the glory to God Amighty because without Him nothing is possible, very simple we don't need to start proving how intelligent or stupid we are.
@Skyone
You are a darling!
That is a nail on the head for the hypocrites!

Please let everyone join me in this prayer;
Dear heavenly Father, let it be to everyone according to their desires. Since some only believe in the good things of heaven,
lets such earthly good things (such as shown above) then be far from them here on earth! May they never
see or taste that which good like above since it's against their intrest! And whatsoever anyone of them is "enduring"
as good thing like these presently, let such "evil" be totally destroyed out of their lives (perhaps so that they may be able to serve you)!
But as for them that love and appreciate such good things, which God the author of good in the beginning accomplished here on earth
(Gen 1:31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good) ,
surely let the goodness and mercy of God follow them, all the days of their lives!
Can I hear everyone shout a big "Amen"!

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