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BlackManta:
Noah and Lots family survived but millions died.

Including...

Children.
Pregnant women and their unborn babies.

Innocent people killed.

So much for God's justice...

Can a clay question the Porter

BlackManta:
What is the ratio of secret disciples to devout Muslims.

In every 100,000,000 Muslims how many would have encounter with Jesus and what are the chances.

Let me ask you this two question


The first world that was destroyed by flood
Was it not only Noah and his family that were saved


When Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed was it not only lot and his family were saved



See my brother we can never question God's Justice because we are mere men.
Even the breadth in our nostrils belong to God
Our body is God's
Our ability to impregnate our wife is God
Children we get is God's
Oil in our ground is God's
That our land is fruitful is God's

See man can't live without God

BlackManta:
How is eternity in hell fire a worthy punishment for sin.

How does finite offences befit infinite punishment

The offence is rejecting God's one and only sacrifice.
Not even sin because Jesus has already solved the sin question by his death

I used to ask this questions too. Until God opened my eyes to understand salvation and Jesus.

I fell in love with Jesus. That is the best thing that happened to me.
Jesus is the best friend anyone can have

BlackManta:
What is the ratio of Muslims converted to devout Muslims in the whole world

For every 1 non Christian you converted there are a 100 more devout Muslims, Buddhist, Hindus who will never leave their religion.

Do you know how difficult it is for one to abandon the religion of his parents and society.

For every major religion one grows up with there is 95% chance of sticking with that religion till death.

If you were raised in a Muslim family in a Muslim country like Saudi Arabia, what are are the chances of you leaving Islam for another religion

It seems you don't understand how religion works.
You are underestimating the sentimental value of religion to one's life.

That is why they are secret disciples of Jesus.
Some of them that opened up may even lose there life.
And there are very many of them that believed
Very many but secretly

See if you have encounter with the resurrected Christ your life will never be the same again

Jesus is very real
He is not a fairy story

VictorRomanov:
I don't know if you understand the bolded. I am trying to help you see the application or perhaps the implication.

Let's say one of my forefathers like 10 generations behind me, married two wives, because his conscience and tradition allowed him to. He sacrificed to idols and saw nothing wrong with it because his conscience and his traditional urged him to do so. You are saying that since he didn't hear about Jesus (who is the only way to salvation) that he would be judged as fit for heaven because his conscience was clear? Yes or No

If it is yes, that means his works which were allowed by his conscience enabled him to have salvation and not the blood of Jesus. Isn't it?

It's a simple yes or no answer.

The reason he will be judged according to his conscience was because he did not hear about Jesus

So God being a God of justice judges him based on moral code like did he kill, commit adultery, steal etc.


But for those that heard of Jesus, God judges them based on Jesus, that is why Romans 8 vs 1 says that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus

BlackManta:
Your God sending people to eternal punishment just because they were not Christian is very unfair, don't you think.

God is a God of justice.

He sent his Son Jesus to pay the price.
He was scourged, whipped, nailed and crucified.
Jesus paid the price for humanities sin with His own life.

So when people reject God's only remedy for salvation. What will be another remedy?

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living GOD.

It is only by His mercies that we are not consumed

BlackManta:
If that is how it works then Muslims, Hindus, Buddhist and non Christians who heard the gospel are all going to hell.

That is over 4.5 billion people to perish, Jesus death was pretty useless after all.

Technically, heaven is for Christians only.

But do you realize not everyone can be Christian.
It is impossible.

Environment and circumstances influences one's religion.

If Arabs colonized the entire Nigeria, you would be a devout Muslim.

So you can't really blame those non Christians, can you.

You are no different from them.

Your God sending people to eternal punishment just because they were not Christian is very unfair, don't you think.

There is no other name given under heaven where men will saved except the name of Jesus.

People always have opportunity
There are a lot of Muslims that have personal revelation of Jesus and believed.

Do you know that there are many secret disciples of Jesus in the Islamic world? As far as Saudi Arabia. There is one Christian Chanel on television that they wrote from the palace of king of Saudi Arabia that they receive the Chanel and hear the gospel on the television. Likewise in India and many parts of the world.


The gospel is spreading all around the world.
Many are believing and accepting Jesus secretly

VictorRomanov:
So you re saying for some, It is not faith or belief in Jesus that will save them, but their works? Right?

I said they will be judged by there conscience.
Our conscience is where moral code is written.
And they couldn't believe because they did not hear, it is in Romans 10.


Salvation comes from believing that Jesus died for your sin. That he paid the price for your sins.
The only effective remedy for the sins of the world was the blood of Jesus.

Our works on our own are filthy rags.
It is Jesus that makes the difference
The righteousness of man is worthless
But being the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus is what makes the difference.

It is Jesus who makes the difference. So our works cannot justify us.
But rather depending on the life of Christ to live right justifies us

BlackManta:
So there is possibility of non Christians going to heaven

Any bible verse to prove this

What I imply is those that didn't hear the gospel like our forefathers, and those in our present world who never heard about Jesus.

The issue is those that never heard about Jesus

But if you have heard of Jesus and never accepted Him, then you have rejected life.


People need to understand that it is only in Jesus that there is life.
Jesus was the Lamb that took away the sins of the world.
God judges sin. But the judgement that was supposed to come to the world, Jesus took it as the Lamb.
Jesus tasted death for all that believe in Him.
If you believe in Jesus that he died for your sins, then when you stop breathing you will never taste death because Jesus tasted death for you.


People don't know the gravity of what Jesus did for us. When you understand it, you will even live above Sin. You will fall deeply in love with Jesus.

BlackManta:
At the emboldened...so you are saying my ancestors who died before missionaries came to Africa heard about Jesus but refused to believe because of pre-concieved notions and they already set out out their hearts to believe what they want

Can you prove that they knew about Jesus before Christian missionaries came to Africa

Those that never heard the gospel will be judged according to there conscience. Every society has a moral code, for example, sleeping with someone's wife is an abomination that sometimes carried death penalty.

Likewise stealing etc were punishable. If so cities then had moral code how come?

olamkas:
Please do me a favour. I want a verse where Jesus himself clearly state the following
1. That he's our Lord and personal saviour
2. That he came to die on the cross for our sins
3. That he's the only begotten
Please, I want direct statement from Jesus and not Paul

John 3 vs 16, entire book of John, Jesus talked about that. Moreover in john 16 Jesus said he had much to tell us but the Holy Spirit will reveal all Truth to us. Apostle Paul's writings were revelation he got from God's Spirit

amliftedhigher:
It will not be well for the people that confused this innocent man to abandone his second term in lagos and come to contest for governor in Imo state.
Imo is not for innocent politicians oh.

That is the problem with many of you
You love to be in your comfort zone
Take the risk and join the millionaires

If David thought like this
Would he have defeated Goliath
King Saul even told him that he was no match
For the giant
He was just a 17yrs old boy, never tasted war before
While Goliath was a man of war from youth


Tony Nwulu believes that he will win this contest
Because against all odds
He won House of Representatives against all odds
With all Tinubus money, power and connection


Anybody that underates this young man is doing so at his own peril
We shall see in February

I believe it should be issues based campaign for PDP

They should comb the nook and cranny of Nigeria

Try as much to meet people one on one

And then also ensure that they must be all out to ensure that voting counts. Not making noise because the other party are despicably desperate. If it was like this Jonathan behaved in muscling up everyone. Would they have gotten the government.

A precedence has been set and so it must remain

Buterflyle0:
Common sense you cannot have despite all your years of failed political affiliations.

With all the Dubai meetings so this is all PDP can come up with?

Are they contesting for local government counselorship?

These are kindergarten questions based on their idiocy and how much they see their followers to be nothing more than zombies with zero mental power to push proper issues other than elementary chit chat...... People like you tonye.

Its amazing that a party that had the opportunity for 16 years to position Nigeria massively for greatness got kicked out and have totally lost the ability to reason and are now a shadow of an opposition.

See school boy talk you are so happy to flaunt as a major PDP presidential achievement.

I shake my head for you and I am amazed at how shallow you now are Tonye.

You used to be a force to be reckoned with in the politics section but today you are nothing but a use and dump toy boy for the highest bidder.

Your life still remains an unfinished project of PDP as are all other projects they claimed to have initiated in their 16 odd lootocratic years.

Abeg tonye do something about your current state. TB Joshua is still there for you because its looking like its a generational thing with you. No be ordinary eye.

That's the problem with all you BMC

He asked simple question. And you replied with insults.

Quorax:
to be honest, this thing has spread beyond the east. I just left a meeting less than an put ago, I am in the south west and the mama, and advance woman mentioned this. The ways she said it shows she believes the news. She is a Yoruba woman. The thing Don spread walahi

An alaye in Lagos Island on Monday was swearing to me that the man in aso rock no 'be baba' laugh want tear my belle

The alaye come dey swear say hunger don too much that for him to see food eat now na die. The guy come dey swear with Quran say anybody wet vote for APC. I was surprised though

People are very very funny.
How will the Church come and start building factory? How?


Recently I noticed something
Despite the madness going on in Nigeria
The Church is getting better
Also a lot of members of these churches are still making impact in there various fields
The few employments being gotten are still these members giving the jobs

Anybody talking down on Nigerian Pastors
Has never seen anything self
Jesus said in me you will have peace
In the world you will have tribulations
The only place you can get true life
Is in Jesus that we profess


If our government and politicians want they should keep on setting Nigeria backward


But the Church will continue getting better and better
The Church owes no one apology
The best is yet to come
You can never stand against the living God
He will crush you to dust
This is just the beginning
You guys have not seen anything self

Just listened to chizoba and I was like wow!!!!! Such a very good music!!!!

That music is top notch, cool, matured, very soulful. Better than most of the crap people release now.

Rudeboy is super talented!!
Kudos to him

The truth is that many don't understand this.
Marriage will determine the destiny of any individual.
If you marry wrongly, na manage will be your name.

Look well before you leap
Don't rush into marriage
The outcome can be catastrophic
And most importantly make sure heaven approves it and backing you.

May God help us

resurgent4oodua:
May we speak in private, please.

OK

onatisi:
all these musicians (KSA, PASUMA,KWAM1 AND CO) that are not living with them cannot claim the reason to be women interference in their careers because we have many many musicians living with their women or wives and still making headway in their careers eg ebenezer obey, 2face and others . but i notice that this trend of not living with a woman seems to be more popular with yoruba artistes and there is a bit of superstition about it , it is believed that if you are a very strong person spiritually ,you should avoid having a woman around because they can spoil your charms , reason why many olden days warriors dont allow their wives to stay with them , they rather build houses for them outside .
i maybe wrong though

But its true, if you have interacted with spiritual men you will find out that nothing exposes one to spiritual attacks like sleeping with a woman.

In spiritual realm it is lower men of the basest that sleep or fornicate with women. And they are empty, powerless, and minced meat for attack.

The only thing that keeps some of them is the Mercy of God or a loved one that upholds them in prayers. But the Mercy of God has limit, though. They cannot continue in sin that Grace will abound.



The only legal sex recognized in the spiritual world is sex between a man and woman legally married in marriage covenant.

Gratefulheart01:
Alright boy, I didn't really have time at the moment to write much note yet if I don't reply I don't want you to think I avoided replying. At this stage in life, the best, good, bad and worst have all happened to religion and non-religion, only the confused will be pushed here and there by various unending fallacies and from there they get more confused. Christianity has been debunked, Islam has been debunked, all competitive religions have all been debunked, and also atheists too have been debunked.
So, save yourself the headache of facing only Christianity, if you research now, you will see endless materials debunking one and every religion and non-religion. That's why i said earlier that out of all the nonsense, you must pick one. No side you take or pick is free from various debunks and attacks from others. Some say Quran was copied from Bible and Hinduism, well as much as Quran stories is close to Bible, I still don't believe or not if it were copied.
Because it's a waste of time following every hearsay, you just keep confusing yourself and will never find the truth till whole world ends.
Having said that the so called Horus has different accounts and the ones to be more trusted about his accounts said many things but did not include solely all you listed including the goddess that gave birth to him.
And for your information, debunkers have also related story of Jesus not only to Horus but to other ancient myths and sources too. Some will say Jesus story is related to A, others will say B, mere set of confused shiiits. Any body can just conjure and manipulate far histories to debunk whatever they don't agree with. That's not new. Everything can be debunked in life.
Like I say earlier, you can from now till end of world continue to see different things against one and others faith. But one of this nonsense still have more sense than others. Know the truth or keep confusing yourself till world end. Stories and debunks will never end no matter the side you take.

Jesus is life
Jesus gives life
Only true life is in Jesus
It was accounted how the Lord went about healing all manner of sicknesses and diseases
And He has not failed today.
He is still in healing business

Jesus tasted and overcame death for everyone
But only those who receive Him will partake of this.
They will never taste death, because Jesus died for them.
Flesh and blood are irrelevant in the scheme of things. Man is nothing but breath, he is not to be accounted as anything,he is vanity, he is inconsequential. As written in the book of Isaiah.
The only thing that gives man credibility is the breadth of life, which belongs to God, which God breathed into man, so that he has life and his heart beats. And the day the breadth of life ceases, man returns to dust, and will raise to judgement on the last day.


That is why men should fear God.
But no, they will be blaspheming against God
But eternity is waiting for all man
Where everyone will give account of every idle word spoken
Man is an eternal being
Man is not just flesh and blood

Giddyperson:
I can only imagine the comments if it were a Nigerian Christian that did this. Now no one is even going in on the dead white man but they've still found a way to make it about Nigerian Christians.

And as for the illiterates saying our ancestors did not resist the gospel or the early missionaries. Are you kidding me? Please leave nairaland and pick up a book every once in a blue moon.

Most of them don't read. Civilization has its merits and demerits. The coming of the White man removed a lot of Savage things but also came with many wicked things too.

But we can't complain because from time immemorial stronger Nations overpowered weaker ones.

The Persians did it. At a time Alexander the great had the entire world was under his rulership. Then the Romans which were reigning during the time of Christ, they crucified the Lord. Then Constantine, then Roman Catholic church and the Pope, down to medieval Europe, then discovery of America, then Tran's Atlantic slavery, then scramble for Africa and colonialism.



Whether people like it or not, we are in the end of days, the end time's. The end will soon come.

oyetunder:
Some of your ancestors tried it, and they tasted the superior weapons of the determined colonialists. This tribe is enjoying the level of exposure of the present age.

Yes like mau mau tribe in Kenya. They resisted the British rule severally in serious uprising, but were overcome by the British superior fire powers.

Racoon:
2015 is long gone past.However the meddling role played by the then Obama government helped to influenced the outcome esp.Kerry's only visit to the northern Nigeria region & the sensitive but disgusting and rejected LGBT issue

Thereafter karma visited Obama & Clinton lost.Same thing will happen again in 2019 as the government they helped to institute will be kick out.

No be small karma. They Obama, his wife and Hilary lost woefully to Donald Trump in a very painful way.

And presently the Republicans are dealing ruthlessly with them. Even in this mid term election, Trump rallied his base, and they took more senate seats leaving them with house of representatives.


God surprised them leftist with ascension of Donald Trump, a no nonsense man. All of them are scared.

Automotive1:
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AirlineRatings.com has named Singapore Airlines as the world's best airline for 2019. Previous five times winner of Airline of the Year, Air New Zealand ,came second and Qantas in third.

The Airline Excellence Awards, endorsed by the International Civil Aviation Organization, was judged by seven editors with over 200 years’ industry experience.

They rated the safety and in-flight products of 450 airlines using a seven-star rating system. The criteria used includes passenger reviews, the age of Aircraft's fleet, profitability, investment, products and staff relations.

The Editor-in-Chief of AirlineRatings.com Geoffrey Thomas commented:


See the overall Top 10 Best AIRLINES below

1) Singapore Airlines

2) Air New Zealand
Previous five times winner of Airline of the Year

3) Qantas

4) Qatar Airways

5) Virgin Australia

6) Emirates

7) All Nippon Airways

8 ) EVA Air

9) Cathay Pacific Airways

10) Japan Airlines

The lists were dominated by Asian and Middle Eastern Airlines

See the Winners in each Category

Airline of the Year:
Singapore Airlines

Best Long-Haul Airline:
Emirates (Middle East), EVA Air (Asia-Pacific), Lufthansa (Europe) and Delta (Americas)

Best Low-Cost Airline:
Westjet (Americas), AirAsia/AirAsia X (Asia-Pacific) and Wizz (Europe)

Best First Class:
Singapore Airlines
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Best Business Class:
Qatar Airways

Best Premium Economy:
Air New Zealand

Best Economy:
Korea Air 

Best Lounges:
Qantas

Best Catering:
Qatar Airways

Best In-Flight Entertainment:
Emirates
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Best Domestic Class:
Qantas

Regional Airline of the Year:
QantasLink

Most Improved Airline:
Philippine Airlines

Best Ultra-Low-Cost Carrier:
VietJet

Best Cabin Crew:
Virgin Australia

Singapore Airlines,the new world best airline and last year's third best , reclaimed the title for the world’s longest commercial flight last month with the relaunch of its 9,534 mile 19-hour Singapore to New York route .

https://autojosh.com/singapore-airlines-is-the-worlds-best-airline-for-2019-see-the-top-10-best-airlines/

No American or European Airline
All top ten are from Asia Pacific/ Middle Eastern region.

And all these countries are very well run and efficient

And Singapore's Changi Airport has been winning the best Airport in the world for many years now.
A country of Excellence