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Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 2:45pm On Dec 31, 2018
Hier:
That's exactly the point, Eternal Salvation is an half truth, a truth I believe have to do with the nullification of the yearly sacrifice of bulls and bloods. Now, we can be saved, once and forever provided we do not sin. Those are the revelations behind eternal salvation and that alone. Now, if anyone says you can't lose you salvation, he's saying that, despite you sin, you still remain saved and that's something I totally disagree with. I can live an holy life and my salvation is till intact, have you heard about the accuser of the brethen, the Bible did not say the devil accuses those that have sinned and are under his(devil) control, but he(devil) accuses those who are saved so the devil would attack them. The devil seeketh whom he may devour, those he want to devour are those who are in the light, not those he has devoured already. Let's not fool ourselves with revelations that are inconsistent
Why the notion provided we do not sin. But do we not sin. Do we not have offenses.


Why did the Lord in our Lords prayer say forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.


Also in 1 John 2 New International Version (NIV)


2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.


Psalm 130 King James Version (KJV)
130 Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord.

2 Lord, hear my voice: let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.

3 If thou, Lord, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?

4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.



Psalm 103 King James Version (KJV)
103 Bless the Lord, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.

2 Bless the Lord, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:

3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;

5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.


Psalm 103


8 The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.


9 He will not always chide: neither will he keep his anger for ever.

10 He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

11 For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him.

12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

13 Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.

14 For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.





Why did I show this scriptures

Does Christian sin yes. But do they live in sin no. When a true Christian sins his heart condemns him. He goes before God and ask for mercy


An unbeliever or ungodly person has no remorse for sin. His heart doesn't condemn him because he is dead


Then as a believer grows he gets stronger and may not do some things he did as a spiritual babe. But this is also a double edge sword because when he becomes prideful he may see himself do those things he was condemning others. I have seen preachers climb pulpit and condemn and judge people claiming that they are holy only to do worse things they were condemning at the pulpit.


That's why apostle Paul wrote in


Galatians 6 New Living Translation (NLT)



1 Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer[a] is overcome by some sin, you who are godly[b] should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself. 2 Share each other’s burdens, and in this way obey the law of Christ. 3 If you think you are too important to help someone, you are only fooling yourself. You are not that important.



There must be balance when interpreting God's word. Because genuine believers who made mistakes have been judged to the extent some even depart from the Lord.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 9:11am On Dec 31, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
You sound like you know better than Jesus who said he knew right from when he appointed the 12 disciples that one of them was a devil. Even Peter thought they were all Clea n but didn't know Judas never believed in Jesus one bit.

a quote from the OP

AsJesus knew those disciples of his that believed not in him and the one who will betray him. In verse 65, many of such disciples left him and went their way because they didn't believe in him. This made Jesus to ask his special 12 disciples if they were also going to leave him.

John 6:67-71
67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

Notice how Peter answered saying that they are staying with Jesus because they believe he has the words of
ETERNAL LIFE and that they BELIEVE he is Christ the Son of God. Remember how John 3:16 said those who believe in Jesus have eternal life.

In Peter's mind all the 12 disciples believed in Jesus, but it wasn't so in the eyes of Jesus who knew one of them didn't believe in him. See what he said below.

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

Clearly, Judas was never ever saved because he didn't believe in Jesus and he also was a devil as described by Jesus himself. So, for someone to sit somewhere and say Judas lost his salvation is the height of deceit.
You can imagine. Someone that was evil, and betrayed the Lord.
Another lesson is the Lord knew who he was but you never saw Him call out Judas. He even gave Judas to hold there purse of Money. Judas was also a thief stealing from the purse. When Mary anointed Jesus, the perfume was very expensive, worth a years wages. Judas was the one saying that the perfume should have been sold and given to the poor. But he was saying it to rob and steal not that he cared for the poor.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 6:11am On Dec 31, 2018
I have followed and contributed on this thread

A lot of scriptures have been quoted


Jesus called Christians the light of the world. Salt of the earth. But look around Nigeria. Is there any evidence of such. Are lifestyles and conducts evidence of such?


As we enter the new year 2019 let us genuinely walk with God.
Those that have made mistakes there is room at the cross for you. God is always calling with his arms wide open. He has never given up on any of us.

Those going through challenges, and difficulties, my prayer is that God will see you through and you will come out victorious on the other side



Remain Blessed
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 10:35pm On Dec 30, 2018
aboystar:
You are saved by grace and not works. Jesus did the work that make salvation possible. After that you are saved, your name has been written in the book of life, you have gotten the promised eternal life, you are in the kingdom of God then you need to prove yourself in the kingdom by good works in order for a good conscience towards God and man. The truth is that in the kingdom that you are there are laws in that kingdom for now that kingdom is spiritual, if you break the laws you expose yourself to attack of the one and only enemy Satan. The gospel is Good and sweet, stop making it bitter. Thank you
How am I making it bitterhuh
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 10:10pm On Dec 30, 2018
5thElement:
The true word of God according to Mr. djon. Lol.

Here's an easy advice for you, if you have a short fuse, best not to engage in Christian apologetics. You'll only blow a gasket.

I understand that you think you are right. Which is OK. There certainly is bliss in ignorance...for the meanwhile.

I'm done here.
You are a liar and spreading Falsehood


Counter what I said


You think the Bible is a philosophical bookhuh


The Bible is the living word of God


The Bible Carey's life of God


Power to live above sin
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 9:59pm On Dec 30, 2018
5thElement:
I don't believe in arguing for argument's sake. I believe I have closed this thread with the quotation from the letter of James. Unless you can show me it's a wrong quotation or that part of the Bible is wrong.
I am not arguing with you


You ate spreading falsehood and I am extracting the true word of God to expose your love es



Jesus told the Jews you are like your father the devil. Who abode not in the Truth and the father of all liars

The devil and false prophets peddle lies


Counter what I put there or keep shut
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 9:51pm On Dec 30, 2018
5thElement:
Lol.


James 2: 14-26 Faith without good works is dead.


Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.


END OF STORY.
What you quoted has no correlation with what I wrote
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 9:49pm On Dec 30, 2018
5thElement:
Word and opposite

Doubt - Faith

When you doubt that God exists, what do you call that? Exactly. Lack of faith.

That man's holiness is like worthless rags before the All-Holy God doesn't mean we should stop trying to be holy.

You guys just keep contradicting Jesus Christ.

What did He mean when he said " Be perfect/holy just as your heavenly Father is perfect/holy"?

You think sinners will get to heaven? Lol.

If everybody held this kind of belief you are spouting here, how do you think the world will look like even if we all are Christians?

Imagine everybody in the world has accepted Jesus and believe in him, and all are assured of heaven no matter the crimes and sins we commit. Lol.

This world will be like hell.

If I am assured of heaven why shouldn't I be out there right now bleeping some hoe? Huh?
Romans 8 vs 2 States that what the law could not do in that it was weakened by the flesh God sending his own son in like of flesh condemned sin in the flesh. That the righteous requirements of the law may be met in us who work not at the flesh but after the spirit.


Israel could not keep God's law because of the sinful flesh


God sent his son to condemn sin in the flesh.


No man can by his own power live above sin


Romans 3 vs 23 for all have sin and come short of Glory of God


That is where a true believer will understand and appreciate Jesus coming


Jesus did not come for himself

John called him the Lamb of God
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 9:36pm On Dec 30, 2018
5thElement:
That is why Paul said to work out our salvation in FEAR and TREMBLING because it isn't sure.

That you are a Christian doesn't mean you will get to heaven. The road to hell is paved with the skulls of many so-called pastors and priests and Christians.

Christ's death brought redemption for all. But only a few will be saved.

Indeed, many are called (Christians) but few are chosen (the saved).
Falsehood

Believe on the Lord Jesus and though shall be saved

What is redemptionhuh

You redeem something by paying a price
Jesus got eternal redemption with his blood

1/Peter 1 said that we have been redeemed not with corruptible things as silver and gold but by the precious blood of Jesus



All you wrote up there are falsehood, deception lies and of the devil.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 8:33pm On Dec 30, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
They don't have the holy spirit in the. that's why they can't understand the words of Jesus which are spirit. That explains why they love to dance, shout and enjoy churches with purple lights. All those things tickle their flesh. But when they come across real preaching, they reject it be sure it doesn't appeal to their flesh.
You hit it spot on
How can a man live without the Holy Spirit.
How is it possiblehuh
Is it not the Spirit that empower one to live for Jesushuh
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 8:18pm On Dec 30, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
The reactions on this thread has made me sad. The true gospel is now boldly rejected and the lie is fully accepted wholeheartedly. Thanks to Pentecostal churches whom Satan has used to sell this lie of a gospel. Before the invention of Pentecostalism, no one believed one could lose his salvation. Every denomination believed in eternal security e.g the Baptists, evangelicals except the Catholics who are false and pagan. All of a sudden, Pentecostalism came from nowhere and started selling falsehood. Their huge find has helped them again ground so much that whatever they say is seen as final for Christianity. Ask many of those who believe they can lose their salvation, they are Pentecostal church goers.
Most of this people have not experienced God.
How many Nigerian Christians devote there time to daily study of God's wordhuh

They just gubble down doctrines of men taught them by men, but they don't know God one on one.


See walking with God, nothing can be compared to it in this whole wide world. Man is a spirit has a soul and lives in a body.
God we worship is a spirit.
And Jesus told us in John 6 that the flesh profits nothing but his words are spirit and life.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 8:10pm On Dec 30, 2018
JJOF:
I'm very sure u didn't read my prev comments, if u had, u wldn't ve typd diz. Anyways, to ur tents o Israel, let evry man kip his blivs. My only joy is dat gullible xtian who came 2 dis thread must ve seen lot of pointers 2 d fact dat u can't live in n enjoy sin n claim u re saved. Adieus. OVER N OUT.
And did I in any way say that I as a Christian enjoys sinhuh

Infanct a child of God when he makes mistake his heart condemns him. A Christian can never be comfortable in sin. Most especially the wonderful fellowship he enjoys with the Father.

True Christianity is having a personal relationship with the father. A heart to heart fellowship. A daily walk with the Lord. He directs everything about you. Romans 8 said they that are led by the spirit of the Lord are the sons of God.
I can tell you that is my daily life.

Go and read the book of John and see what Jesus said about his relationship with the father.


Read Hebrews 12 where the father disciplines those that are his whyhuh That they may be partakers of his holiness

I am not here quoting Bible rather experiencing and proving God's word in my daily life.


Most of you will be surprised on the last day. Many of the people you condemn and judge are known in heaven while some of you are not even known
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 7:11pm On Dec 30, 2018
damocool:
Sir, there's nothing like being judgmental when preaching the word of God, 2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart... Preaching the totality of words of God is not about sweet words..
It has a lot to do with being judgmental.


You never answered my questionhuh


Why did the teachers of the law call Jesus a friend of sinners

Why did a notorious harlot like Mary so much love Jesus that she cleaned his feet with her tears to the extent the people there started condemning Jesus in there hearthuh


Why did Jesus go to Samaria to talk with a woman who had married 5 different men and was now on the 6th manhuh



God is not man. Men judge, condemn, criticise. The righteousness of man is filthy rag. The only righteousness that counts is the one that Jesus gives. And it only Jesus that gives it accessed by faith.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 6:33pm On Dec 30, 2018
JJOF:
And wat is d result of ur spending ur time with god? Ur flesh dies gradually, n ur hatred 4 sin increases, thereby making u 2 stop sining. But if u refuse to work out ur salvation, ur flesh grows stronger, n ur spirit grows weaker, b4 u knw it, just like those seeds dat were sown in a thorny land, ur flesh snuffs dat lil light u ve, thus u loose ur salvation. As simple as ABC.
1 Peter said as new born babes desire the sincere milk of the word that you may grow thereby. The only way you grow as a Christian is by feeding on God's word. That is the only source of life.

When you neglect God's word, son dominates you, but the issue is that God never ever gives up on that person.

The major problem is that many of you are religious and judgemental.

A woman was caught in the very act of adultery. Did Jesus condemn her?


Mary Magdalen was a notorious harlot that Jesus saved.


Why was publicans and sinners comfortable in Jesus presence?


The main thing is that there are things I cannot just explain to you. Argument won't even do it.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 5:51pm On Dec 30, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
Exactly, but they think work out your salvation means they should go and save themselves. Then why did Jesus die?
That is why we have so many non effective Christians. They think it is by there own power!!!
Personally spending time daily in studying God's word and prayer has so much built my life.


It is in fellowship you connect to the living God and His power transforms you to live like Jesus.
It is his power at work in my life
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 5:44pm On Dec 30, 2018
alBHAGDADI:
They have used the "work out your salvation" to deceive you. You do not know what the Bible verse is saying. Read it below to see that it is not saying you should go and save yourself.

Philippians 2:12-13
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.


When you go to the gym, what do you say you are doing? You say you are working out your muscles. Working it out means you already have it but you just want it to be more pronounced so you work it out. God put muscles in you when he created you. But because you want to look like a body builder, you decided to work it out by hitting the gym.

Same thing with salvation. God has put salvation in you and wants you to make it pronounced by working it out i.e showing it off to the world. This will make others also get attracted to want to have a change of heart and follow God too, same way your friends will be motivated to hit the gym just to look awesome when they see your good looks.

Now go back and read the passage to see how it clearly fits my explanation.
I wanted to reply him exactly with the same word



And how do you work it out? Daily spending time in fellowship with the Lord, in studying God's word and prayer time. This will deeply grow and develop your spiritual life!!!!!
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 5:40pm On Dec 30, 2018
Omudia11:
Joseph Prince has zero understanding of the Bible. I have dissected and analyzed his teachings and did awsu completely with them.

Stop making unfounded statements. There are a gazillion preachers who know much more than JP and are not heretics unlike him.. It is not a contest of who is more sound. As long as a preacher foes not add or subtract to the word of God then he's good to go.
First of all I have been reading some of your quotes and you sound exactly like the pharisees and teachers of the law that crucified the Lord.

I was expecting you to show me what he said but you are here generalizing!!!!

Joseph Prince is impacting the gospel of our Lord Jesus round the world with God confirming his teachings with signs following. Millions of lives are being transformed round the world.


Listening to him has given me a very deeper understanding. My Christian life has been totally built up. And millions around the world are attesting to the same thing
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 5:04pm On Dec 30, 2018
Omudia11:
Joseph Prince the demonic heretic is eho you're listening to. I was an avid follower of his until I noticed the errors in his doctrines.
Really well to each his own. But there is no preacher on the planet with deep understanding of the Bible than this man.

I have done study on his teachings and they are deep, transformational.

And moreover peoples life are transformed listening to him, deliverance from sin, dynamic healing testimony.
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 4:35pm On Dec 30, 2018
Newerakings:
This is indeed a laughable post

Jesus did not come to save us in sin but he came to save us from sin... how can you go back to where you have been saved from and expect to get the ultimate reward of Christianity...

the bible in Romans 6 v 1 and 2 says
1 KJV:What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

2 KJV:God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Further to this Roman 6 v 23 l amplify the consequences of sin when it said.

23KJV:For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

what this verse is saying is that the Devils gift to mankind is sin which leads to death while God's gift is eternal life... the question now is how can you have the gift of the devil and expect God's eternal life... this is impossible.

Have you ever asked why Jesus never sinned though he was tempted? that is because Jesus needed to set the example that it is possible to live above sin and it is expected that those who bear the name Christians which literally means Christ-Like suppose to live above sin just Jesus did and if for any reason a christian sins mistakenly or Knowingly he must repent from that sin before he can he gain eternal life or otherwise he will go to hell. God is no respecter of persons the Kingdom of God is not meat and drink or made for people who believe they can be Christians in sin.

I rise
How do you live above sin?
Christianity EtcRe: If You Believe You Can Lose Your Salvation, Then You Have Called God A Liar by djon78(m): 4:02pm On Dec 30, 2018
I was listening to Pastor Joseph Prince recently (in fact he is number 1 preacher I listen to) and he said that in the book of Acts the early apostles always said believe in the Lord Jesus and though shall be saved. Salvation is strictly believing in the Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 10 throws more light on it.

The reason why we have a very ineffective body of Christ is because of many wrong teachings that has been going on. And these teachings does not transform lives of people, but put people under so much bondages


As for this topic I agree to it. If people understand salvation, whom God is, His nature you will understand that God has loved us with everlasting love. God is not man. God doesn't condemn. In fact it is the goodness of God that brings us to repentance.
CelebritiesRe: Marriage Scares Me – Uti Nwachukwu by djon78(m): 3:30pm On Dec 30, 2018
If you want to stay sane don't put your trust in anybody to make you fulfilled. Ensure you are fulfilled and happy as a person. And nothing you see in marriage will surprise you.

Intact the main reason for marriage is to have children the right way not babymama etc.
FamilyRe: My Teenage Sister Already Having Sex With Yahoo Boys & My Father Is An Extremist by djon78(m): 5:28pm On Dec 29, 2018
consultancy:
giving birth to a female child in this generation is one risk i never want to take. never
Na so one guy I know circumsized his female daughters. I was shocked. The guy na street man and politician. He said wetin him eyes don see for girls nowadays he no want make it befall him daughters. I was surprised
RomanceRe: Man Narrates How His Girlfriend Fell For A Benz Owner And Slept With Him by djon78(m): 2:09pm On Dec 29, 2018
franchasng:
Don't mind Nigerians and their bandwagon mentality.

They just make it seem like Benz is the ultimate of cars when it is not.

Ladies don't usually love Benz cars in reality because they aren't always that cute and flashy when compared to Japanese cars like: Lexus, Honda, or even Toyota.

Benze cars and their SUVs usually have this rugged, ugly look that only men appreciate
I wonder how many car you have drivenhuh

Mercedes Benz is still the king. Engine quality and speed. Another car I have driven that is close is Range Rover.

All those Japanese no reach those V8 engine, car that can go 300miles in 5 seconds!!!!!




Although my comment has nothing to do with this crapy story. I don't deal with such low lifes
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WORDWORLD:
THAT IS THE PARADOX OF OUR TIME IN HISTORY. THE AGE OF CONSUERISM, WHICH ALMOST EVERYTHING BECOMES OBSOLETE REALLY, REALLY FAST.

In your spare time ponder over every word below as you read carefully.

"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but SHORTER TEMPERS; wider freeways, but NARROWER VIEWS POINTS. We spend more, but HAVE LESS; we buy more, but ENJOY LESS; We have bigger houses and SMALLER FAMILES; more conveniences, but LESS TIME. We have more degrees but *LESS SENSE (I just hope some how our senselessness will ponder over this, it continues) more knowledge, but LESS JUDGEMENT; more experts, yet more PROBLEMS; more medicine, but LESS WELLNESS.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up to late, get up too tired, READ TOO LITTLE, watch TV too much, and PRAY TOO SELDOM. We have multiplied our possessions, but REDUCED OUR VALUES. We talk too much, love too seldom, and HATE TOO OFTEN. We've learned how to make a living, but NOT A LIFE. We've added years to life NOT LIFE TO YEARS. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but HAVE TROUBLE CROSSING THE STREET TO MEET A NEW NEIGHBOUR. We conquered outer space but NOT INNER SPACE (this I find most important, our innerself is the ONLY BATTLE FIELD and not the avoidable wars, killing one another, conquering of our inner self to incline towards GOOD eschewing EVIL it continues)  
We've done larger things, but NOT BETTER THINGS. We've cleaned up the air, but POLLUTED THE SOUL. We've conquered atom but NOT OUR PREJUDICE. We write more, BUT LEARN LESS. We plan more but ACCOMPLISH LESS. We've learned to rush, but not TO WAIT. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but WE COMMUNICATE LESS AND LESS.

These are the times of fast foods and SLOW DIGESTION; Big men and SMALL CHARACTER; step profit and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but MORE DIVORCE;

Fancier houses but BROKEN HOMES. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, THROW AWAY MORALITY, ONE NIGHT STANDS, OVERWEIGHT BODIES, AND PILLS THAT DO EVERYTHING FROM CHEER, TO QUIET, TO KILL. fancier houses but broken homes.

It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and NOTHING IN THE STOCKROOM. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time you can choose either to share this insight, or to just delete.

Remember spending some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever. Remember to say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow and leave your side.
Remember to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and IT DOESN'T COST A CENT.

Remember to say "I LOVE YOU" to your partner and your loved ones, but MOST OF ALL MEAN IT.

A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt WHEN IT COMES FROM DEEP INSIDE OF YOU. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again.
GIVE TIME TO LOVE,GIVE TIME TO SPEAK AND GIVE TIME TO SHARE THE PRECIOUS THOUGHTS IN YOUR MIND."

**This was originally written by Dr. Bob
Morehead, but has been altered slightly
while bouncing around on the internet
since 1998**

NOTE, THE ILLUSTRATION BELOW IS ONLY A PERSPECTIVE WHICH DOES NOT REFLECT AN HOLISTIC VIEW.

You hit it spot on. God bless you greatly for this inspiring, soul lifting write up.

Humanity has completely lost it indeed. No more love but hate everywhere. No more good human relationships. May God help us.
BusinessRe: How Can One Stop Betting Habit In 2019? by djon78(m): 9:22pm On Dec 27, 2018
Better find way because betting does no one any Good.
I was just talking with a very close friend this morning, he was telling me how his younger brother was diverting 270k every week for some kind of premium betting on a very lucrative business he opened for him.

The auditors found out when they were going through the company accounts. He had to close down the company, and the use less young man is now completely jobless.


Betting is a terrible thing. I believe it is lazy men that doesn't want to work for there money and who don't know the value of money indulge in it.
HealthRe: 25 Interesting Facts About Your Eyes by djon78(m): 9:07pm On Dec 27, 2018
bond77:
“The eyes are the windows to the soul” as one well known saying goes. However, there’s just more to the eyes than, well, meets the eye. They allow us to see, first and foremost, as well as allow us to distinguish shapes and sizes at first glance (literally). They also help us recognize our friends and our loved ones. What your eyes do isn’t just limited to these though; so here are 25 crazy facts about your eyes.

25. Eye color can change. Neither blue nor green pigments are ever present in the human iris or ocular fluid. Eye color is therefore something like the sky, it depends on the lighting conditions, especially for lighter-colored eyes.

24. If your eyes are blue, you share a common ancestor with every other blue-eyed individual in the world. The very first person to ever have blue eyes lived around 6,000 to 10,000 years ago. Back then, everyone had brown eyes.

23. Each eye contains 107 million cells and all are light sensitive. Seven million “cones” helps you see color
and detail while the 100 million “rods” help you distinguish black and white. So, less than a tenth of your visual receptors actually detect color.

22. 20/20 vision = normal vision. This number is largely arbitrary but eye doctors determined that people ought to be able to read a chart from 20 feet away. This is normal vision under normal lighting conditions.

21. If you wear glasses that flip mages upside down, your brain corrects your vision. Even though you’d see things upside down, your brain will eventually adapt and you will begin to function as though you are seeing
things right side up (even though you’re really not). There have been several experiments done on this.

20. The eyes blink on an average of 17 times per minute, 14,280 times per day and 5.2 million times a year. Fun fact: you blink more when you’re talking than while you’re reading, We’re not sure about singing though…

19. People say “in the blink of an eye” because it’s the fastest muscle in the body. A blink usually lasts 100 to 150 milliseconds and it’s possible to blink five times in a second.

18. You’ll need reading glasses when you’re older. For around 99% of the population, the age they’ll first need reading glasses is between 43 and 50. This is because the lens in your eye slowly loses its focusing ability with age.

17. The eye’s lens is quicker than any camera’s. Right behind the pupil is the lens, which focuses on objects you look at. Take a moment to look around a room and think about the various distances you’re focusing at. Each time, you do this, your eye’s lens instantly changes focus without you even being aware of it. Compare that with a camera’s lens which takes a few seconds to focus between this distance to the next.

16. Blinking happens to be an enormously important eye function. Blinking helps remove any debris on your
eye’s surface by spreading tears over them. The tears help moisten and lubricate the eyes and they also have important anti-bacterial properties.

15. Everybody gets cataracts as they get older.
You could think of cataracts as having similarities to getting gray hair in that it’s just a normal, natural change as you age. The average age people first get cataracts is around 70 years old.

14. Diabetes is often first detected during an eye exam.
Those who suffer from type 2 diabetes are often symptom-free, meaning they don’t even know that they’ve got it. This type of diabetes is normally picked up during eye exams as it could be seen as small
haemorrhages from leaking blood vessels at the back of the eye.

13. You see with your brain, not your eyes.
This may sound obvious but many times blurry or poor vision isn’t caused by the eye at all. The poor vision stems from something going wrong in the visual cortex of the brain. There’s a lot that can go wrong with the ocular system.

12. Your eyes can adapt to blind spots.
Specific eye conditions (e.g. glaucoma) could lead to blind spots in your vision. This can prove to be immensely debilitating if it wasn’t for the brain and the eyes abilities to adapt, making such blind spots disappear, similar to the way it adjusts the upside down vision we mentioned earlier. It does this by “suppressing” the blind spot in your affected eye and allowing your good
eye to fill in any “blanks.”

11. 20/20 vision is not the best vision.
In a typical eye test chart, 20/20 vision is the line that’s second from the bottom. The line that’s below it is even smaller and if you can see it, this means you have 20/16 vision. The best recorded human vision, however, was 20/8 which means you could see what normal people see at 8 feet at 20 feet.

10. Your eyes water when they’re dry.
Tears are made up of three different components, namely fat, mucus and, of course, water. If these three components aren’t exactly in their right quantities, your eyes could become dry. Your brain responds to such dryness by producing more of them!

9. Eyes heal quickly.
With the proper care, it will only take around 48 hours for the eye to repair a corneal scratch.

8. Newborns don’t produce tears. In spite of their crying sounds; babies tears don’t begin to flow until they’re around 4 to 13 weeks old.

7. Doctors have yet to find a way to do eyeball transplants. The optic nerve, which connects the eyes to the brain, is too sensitive to successfully reconstruct.

6. Eye measurements.
On average, an eyeball is about an inch in diameter and weighs around 0.25 ounces.

5. Heterochromia.
This eye condition happens when a person is born with two differently colored eyes.

4. Eye muscles.
Out of every muscle in the body, the ones that control the eyes happen to be the most active.

3. Working parts.
Your eyes are made up of more than two million working parts to make them fully functional.

2. Shark eyes.
Shark corneas are very similar to the ones we humans have. Because of that similarity, they’ve been used as replacements in human eye surgeries.

1. Curable conditions.
80% of vision problems around the world are avoidable or even curable. Advancements in lasik surgery as well as preventive care through supplements and diets contribute to this.

Source : list25.com/25-crazy-facts-about-your-eyes/5/


Hemmmm.. I would appreciate it, if the mods can publize this thread on the fp, so that it can be an added knowledge especially for those who rock recommended glasses, for those having eyes issues, et al. Thanks.
God is great. The components of the human body is mind blowing. No wonder the book of Psalm said that man is fearfully and wonderfully made!!!

And people will claim there is no God.
FamilyRe: I Just Found Out My Husband Has Cheated On Me. Please Help by djon78(m):
ifyalways:
Welcome to marriage. . . cheesy

Now you are in pains, bobo is probably out chopping the sidechyk or drowning beer and peppersoup somewhere.

Better get yourself together, put on your shock absorber , believe all human are fallible, sit up and tight to sail on or sink your ship.

Reality 101. Ndo o
This is it.



As a man, if you are married to a woman you have built a deep connection with, why cheat on her?? Nawa for some men.


It is well
BusinessRe: Femi Otedola To Sell His Forte Oil Shares by djon78(m): 4:37pm On Dec 24, 2018
Bizibi:
The man is planning ahead of time,some people will start moving assets abroad.no one would love to make a mistake twice.....
You are the only smart person here
He may want to quit Nigerian economy and move his money abroad.
It is even better for him. His money is better insured because Buharis second coming will be finishing of Nigeria's economy which many people don't know. So he is selling off to move abroad.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by djon78(m): 10:38am On Dec 24, 2018
nwabekeyi:
I seriously think people should set the Bible aside and read about the history of Christianity.

How the religion transcended from the Jews to the Romans and Greeks. It will give a better understanding of what it is.

Most Christians are highly ignorant about their religion and they are proud to be. This is why the world is in ruins
Set my Bible asidehuh This is the advice of people that peddle falsehood.

The Bible is our only authority, it is the word of God, the absolute authority


Psalm 19 King James Version (KJV)

19 The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

2 Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.

3 There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.

4 Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,

5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

6 His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

7 The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9 The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.

11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

12 Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.


13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.

14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

King James Version (KJV)
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by djon78(m): 4:26pm On Dec 23, 2018
ItsTime4me:
Oh now I know your problem. You find it hard to read and comprehend. Haba, it's not my fault na.
Read and comprehend with your human understanding the things of God.
My friend you are very far away from God.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by djon78(m): 4:24pm On Dec 23, 2018
Alexis11:
If celebrating Christmas will make one to miss the kingdom of God, then nothing will be enough to make it. That therefore means Christianity is a joke in the first place. cool

You guys should let us celebrate in peace abeg. cool
The truth is that most of them arguing this things are godless. They don't know God.

God is way higher than there understanding.

When Jesus came, who were the people that opposed him?? Teachers of the law, scribes, Pharisees. Why?? Because God hid himself from there so called knowledge.


God is way higher than mans understanding

He said it in Isaiah 54 that as the heavens are higher than the earth, so is his ways higher than mans ways and thoughts.
Christianity EtcRe: Don't Let Anyone Lie To You That Christmas Is A Pagan Festival by djon78(m): 4:16pm On Dec 23, 2018
ItsTime4me:
Are you sure you really read and comprehended Exodus 32:4-10? Didn't you read in verse 5 where Aaron built an altar before the golden calf and said: "There is a festival to Jehovah tomorrow?" Didn't you get the drift?

A worship that was meant to be for a pagan god was converted to be a " festival to Jehovah." Don't you see the analogy? People in the time past celebrated a pagan god on December 25. Make your research and try to find out what characterised that celebration and you will discover that it is in no way different from what characterises Christmas celebrations today. What happened was just a change of the name of the celebration, from PAGAN god to JESUS celebration. In the same vain, the Israelites changed the IDOLATROUS worship to FESTIVAL TO JEHOVAH.

Verse 6 shows that the Israelites offered up burnt offerings and presented communion sacrifices. To who? According to them, to God. In their minds, evidently, they felt it was harmless to REPLACE God with the GOLDEN CALF, analogous to "Christians" REPLACING the PAGAN gods with JESUS CHRIST.

But God punished them. Recal that the Israelites made burnt offerings and sacrifices, things they normally do in their worship to God. But why did God still punish when they said it was a festival to God? The reason is not far fetched. The origin of the festival was bad. Just simply changing the name of the festival was not enough. The origin! The origin!! The origin!!!.

Well, honest-hearted people, those who really want to know the truth, have seen glaring reasons why Christmas should not be celebrated. It is simply not for true Christians. Christmas is just Pagan Festival with a different face, much like the colour of a building is changed from white to green, but the building remains the same.

I won't and can't force you to accept my reasonings but one thing I would let you know is that God can only make the truth known to those who are humble at heart, those who are willing to learn and unlearn, no matter what preconceived ideas they've had.

Have a nice day.
You made no sense. Israel worshipped a golden calf, an idol, so where is the comparison.

The main problem is that majority of you are so so ignorant, and be claiming to know scriptures while you absolutely know nothing.

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