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Ijeoma660:
I added to my PV array to enable my battery fully charge and be on float whilst serving my running loads during the day.

It feels so good to be on free energy most especially when you are on pre-paid metering.

Barezzi:
That sounds very stressful...What happens when you're out of town/home?
You may want to consider moving them to the roof.

Barezzi:
@Dmerciful,
You must have very understanding neighbours, that dont mind your panels sticking out into their yards

temizeee:
i currently need 12v 100ah fairly used battery, please let me knw if available... it's urgently needed

teamman:
No pattern started sir. When someone is wrong lets call a spade a spade.

Oshomo12:
Na wao! see new jabs.

Na who I wan pick on now self.........
enh I have got it; DMerciful na where we leave that our fight again, reminds me. My blood is hot!

teamman:
Oga the logistics involved was too much for them to bear.

teamman:
So who is the newbie? Oga insider, my assertions are based on facts not story telling. I dont know you from adam so calm down. I have said the truth and l will let coschairs know what you are saying about their brand.

teamman:
Oga stop damaging people's brand with your incorrect analysis. Coscharis stopped bringing the indian flooded tubular battery because of logistics. They spent quite an amount on manpower to fill the batteries with electrolyte. The batteries are brought into the country without electrolyte.
They fill them and charge with a generator most times. who bears the cost? Customers who bought the batteries in its dry state fill them up wit the wrong electrolyte and also do not charge them properly hence the complaints. Too much ass licking on this thread. The sellers have taken over the space. Little wonder GeorgeD, richmon74 and other pioneers have reduce their interactions here. Guys when people are wrong they are wrong

bigrovar:
In life.. S**t can happen. Go to Amazon / AliExpress review section, even the most highly related item have reviews that would shock you. Same with brick and mortal. It would be so nice to have a place like home depot in Nigeria but alas we do not have the customer base to support such. Kiekie, Juo and many other seller on here have handled thousands of deals that have gone smoothly without issues. How we handle conflicts matter alot.

Even oga George once had issues with someone who claim he got a wrong panel from what was advertised to him. In the end things were resolved. It is important that we always find path of least conflict in all our dealings. Here is an example.

I once bought some used panels from a member here. When the panels were delivered. Found out one had experienced burn out and had a wound. The other was ok but both didn't gave stickers to verify they were truly first grade panels that was claimed. I was very angry and at first felt cheated. Thankfully I calmly involved the seller about my observations. He was sorry and promised to send another panel to replace the bad one. He did.. And added yet another one even though I told him he would receive delayed payment. 2 day I gave 4 extra panel. The one with the burn out still works with almost zero degrade in harvest compared to the rest. And I got it for free. Today me and Seller are still in good terms.

How we handle conflict matters alot. I have once refunded a buyer of my PWM with a replacement after he complained of what I sold him. Till date I never got the replacement. I didn't complain or insult him. Even when he reach out to me recently. Throwing insult will not get any body anywhere.

For sellers : we learn everyday and am sure everyone would have taken a lesson or two from this episode.

Cover yourself : never give warranty beyond what you are given by the product manufacturer.

Never give warranty on a used product. It should be a case of buyers beware.

Spell out the terms of sale. Let the buyer know the level of support he is to expect from you.

No body knows it all. Our sellers have been great for the most part. We should not forget the customized service and support we get from them. Millions naira worth of transactions has taken place here without an hitch with both parties going home smiling. Let's remember that

viperVIP:
@Dmerciful

I told you, I'm not here for the panel issue, I'm here for the battery issue and we have agreed that I will pay 130,000 and he will deliver 2 brand new batteries and that he has failed to give consent to when I'm ready. That's why I'm here. He referred back to the panel issue like he did me some favor and I need to let this shit out.

viperVIP:
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Hey kid because it's very stupid of you to have called me a "boy" I have never disrespected you, NO BLACKMAIL HERE

1. You didn't tell me about the solar before purchase, it was after delivery we talked and you mention that.\\
2. it's not up to 4-5 months, i stated date of purchase in there "1 Sept, 2017" and this is January, I didn't tell you one of the batteries, I wrote the batteries.
3. Now you want your reputation back because some people are against you, you are only beating around the bush, you helped me Did I pay fully eventually or I didn't? I have had cases to buy products from people, as long as I haven't taken the products away from your store, i can pay in "lesser-than-bits" indeed, it's my money and when I finish paying, you deliver... that's an agreement, so no gain saying.
4. Why on earth would you feel something is better for me, you be my papa why would you decide what I will do with my money kid?
5. You sent the panel, I needed POWER than anything else at that point, I can't wait for another 5-7 days for another panel, so I just had to install it that way which I told you. I installed it the next day I picked it up and let you know how horrible the transaction was. I really don't know if you think I have all the time in this world to keep waiting for you to amend your faults.
6. Out of frustration, I demanded a refund but then I felt it's not worth it. I'm not a greedy fellow, there's nothing I want to do with the 10k if I have it back. I'm not wishing you run at loss but then you did something extremely wrong.

I'm posting the whatsapp chats in my next post.

JUO:
@Kiekie1 can confirm that my refund doesn't take unto 24hrs
I sold two batteries to this boy about 4-5 months ago, after a while this boy complained that one of the batteries wasn't performing and i promised to replace it for him but he needs to pay part of the money since he is requesting for a new one and never kept the warranty agreement of adding solar to the setup and we concluded he should contact me whenever he has raised the money. even though he voided the agreement i still promised to replace it. that is for the battery case

Now the real issue (blackmail)
I sold the first cc to him, after a while he contacted me that someone took the cc that I should help him again and I said okay. he started paying the money bits by bits. he is using ups as inverter and i believe you all know what that means (nothing to charge the battery) i couldn't wait for him to complete the payment before sending him the cc although he later finished the payment and he was happy. few days later he contacted me again about panel and specifically requested for 200w mono coz he was using 180w mono, I said okay but kept complaining that phcn has gone for over 4 days. since he has started paying I sent him the panel hoping he will not runaway with my money. he wanted 200w but i felt sending him something higher at almost the same price will be better for him since is his personal use and with that the battery will charge faster. instead of 200w mono i sent him 305 poly original panel (almost new) and i told him there was a little a change meanwhile i never told him of any increment, I felt 305 poly will perform better than 200w mono ( but bad). he insisted on knowing the change i asked him to wait until he receives panel. my aim of not telling him about the increase in watts was to surprise him but foolish me. panel got to the destination 5 days (he finally paid up)without his knowledge only for me ask he said he has not received but later went to pick it up and that was when the issues started. the insult was too much for me so i requested for his account number for refund which i never received instead he requested for 10k refund and he will keep the panel or i come to his house and pickup the panel. all i got was insult instead of account number for refund. had to tell him that the cost of the 305w poly to him is 47k that if he is keeping the panel he needs to balance 5k and keep panel or send account for refund or still keep the panel or return it. account number never came insult continued i have no option than to ignor him the next thing i saw was battery transaction. the insult i received from him i have not receive it in the past 10 years

chris81964:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXNPDPr0lQ

bigrovar:
I can only speak for myself not anyone. I don't get what is meant by known person. Regarding the Juo matter, I reached out to him back stage and to hear his side of the story. From all I got from all he told me is that according to him, the story is longer than what was stated here. There have less than cordial transaction history which raised lots of bad blood. He felt insulted choose not to respond. I have had dealings with Juo before where I got some used battery. 6 in all. 2 where not up to my requirement and Juo insist I return them. In fact he sent me the replacement (at his own cost) before I sent him the faulty batteries. The story here is uncharacteristic of my dealings with him. I do hope that when the blood cools he would come on here to say his own part of the story and most importantly so that both party can come to an acceptable agreement.



It seems you can't open your mouth without using colourful language. Does it make you feel taller or that is just how you were brought up. Issues comes up all the time. Considering the amount of transactions that takes place on this forum back stage without issues its no surprise that once in a while problems comes up its part of life. What is important is how this things are resolved and handled. I am doing my bit to talk to the party I know back stage so that this matter can be put to rest. I am sure many on here are also doing same.

yinka2011:
RESULTS FROM TODAYS FGN BONDS PRIMARY MARKET AUCTION from easykobo website.

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NiyiOmoIyunade:
This qarea is one where I will benefit from some education.

I always mount panels facing due South and as close to flat as possible roof pitch pernitting. I do West facing panels where there is no space to mount South.

It seems folks on here are getting good results fron North and East facings panels - can someone please explain the logic and why it works? Is it better than the conventional South facing mount?

viperVIP:
Good day everyone.

Please I need your intervention concerning a purchase from JUO. I have transacted with him few times successfully until recently that he stopped picking my calls while we still have a transaction not concluded yet to my detriment.

I bought 2 units (12v 190ah) of used batteries from him barely 4 months @ 80k each for a client on 1 Sept, 2017, I planned buying new but he was able to convince me that these batteries are better than the new ones I wanted to buy, so I opt in for his option and he promise me a guarantee of 6 months if client discharge 50% only. I paid him and he supplied the batteries to me, few days after installation we were chatting and he asked if he has a solar system installed and I said NO... he said that's bad o, he barely gives people warranty with no solar and I told him this client lives in an estate with about 20-24hours power supply daily, he's only trying to make sure he covers up his 24hours power supply always, that's why he's getting it and there won't be a problem concerning charging of the battery but I will persuade him to do solar, that's all.

I can't force money out of the client's pocket likewise you didn't base your warranty on a condition before you sold it to me, it was after you sold it you were talking that condition... and that's not a goal to me, even batteries perform well without a solar system, so not a solid criteria.

About 2 weeks ago, the client called me that some liquid came out of the battery terminals the previous night and he's been observing for about 4 days that battery barely last 30minutes from the previous 9 hours it's used to. I went there 2 Sundays ago to inspect the batteries and the terminals are dried, i didn't see any vivid traces of water and I met battery fully charged, so i disconnected the grid supply to see how long the battery will last and behold, less than 20 minutes it started alarming and 3 minutes after, inverter went off.

I informed JUO and he said he can't be responsible for total refund (even tho that's not conditionally stated in his warranty, what he told me then was he will replace if battery is default) and now he said he can only give a discount on another purchase.

Client said he's never going to buy used again... Poor experience for me as well.

His discount was client is to pay #130,000 for 2 brand new Mercury 12v batteries. Client insisted on #100k because he can't lose such money within that short period. And I had to come in just to protect my integrity, I agreed to pay #30k from my wallet.

Client called me yesterday that he's ready for the purchase. And I informed JUO and since then he has refused to answer my calls, nor reply my text and whatsapp.

So I am begging everyone to implore him to fix this transaction even though I will never have to deal with him ever again. And I am not "mr. dangote" to bear a burden of #100k.

We transact with each other on here most times based on trust, we never meet each other and I do believe everyone has a name to protect, so kindly implore him to do the right thing as agreed... This JUO is a man I have input my words for on this forum for a good services & delivery rendered, so I never expect him to show this ugly side of his to me.

Kindly help everyone pls!

Teraman

MizMyColi:
Since this disaster was taken in the daytime, we might as well call it a daymare.

fedorahat:
I never said efficiency and %loading were the same thing, I was trying to give an advise to help the battery life the system.

fedorahat:
Efficiency is 0.8 of total power, and it is not advised to load your inverter beyond 60% of its capacity, actually we have inverters that need load sensing to cut off otherwise it generates battery waste.

fedorahat:
Not all inverters are intelligent

DMerciful:
Hi Guys,

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Fangpusun FLEXmax 60A 12v/24v/36v/48v/60v @ 145k
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Cheers.

Proudlyngwa:
800 x 12 = 9600 wH

Divide 9600 by your 3000 watts (3kva) inverter, you will know how many hours it will last.

If your inverter does not adjust power generated based on load automatically, you will have a lot of power wastage and loss of battery efficiency.

makavele:
For peace to reign , let somebody volunteer a souer charger. My battery absorb voltage is 14.1v
Let somebody adjust it “as easy as it is” to 14.1v absorb and 13.5v float.
I promise to buy back that souer charger for triple the market price.

And for that, the person has to just open it up, twist a potentiometer with a scewdriver, close it back up and bring it here!!!

End of discussion !!!!

makavele:
You are talking rubbish . . like i said you are quoting online or textbook Physics for us.
I am quoting real life applications for you.
Draw your two ears and hold them tight, i repeat . .
A potientiometer can be used to measure potential difference or electromotive force, put it as you want in a circuit.

If you are a true science student, then you would know that a potentiometer is preferred than a voltmeter when it comes to
measuring voltage or more precisely, emf / Why?

When a voltmeter is connected, the circuit is closed, and internal resistance comes into play. Little current is drawn, so it tampers with the accuracy of the readings.

On the other hand, a potentiometer is an open-circuit measurement, no current is drawn, so it's more accurate for measuring emf or terminal voltage. it is also more sensitive than a voltmeter.

SO when next I tell you that a potentiometer is used to measure voltage, just keep shut and don't argue.

Yes, it could be used for other purposes like you mentioned too; but don't tell me it doesn't measure !

dapsyra:
What I stated is physics!

A potentiometer inside a voltmeter is used as a variable resistor to calibrate the accuracy of the displayed value. That is one of the three uses of a potentiometer as stated in my earlier post. The fact remains that a potentiometer cannot and does not measure potential difference. It is essentially a resistor with a variable centre tap.

There are many laymen in this forum, so it is important to give accurate information in order not to lead them astray.