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CAPdan21:
Your words were hyperbolic yet you voted for the man twice...Even Buhari's family members did not vote for him twice

Voting for APC twice still doesn't mean one is a strong supporter of them, it could well be one is a strong hater of the main opposition in play and is stuck between the 2 choices.

Example, Republicans who might hate trump but hate the Democrats more and would close their eyes to vote the Republican party despite not supporting the frontrunner.

CAPdan21:
You did not invent English grammar...You claimed to be Buhari's strongest supporter twice, you voted for him twice...One of my relative who was a very loud buhari supporter in 2015 was ashamed of him in 2019 but you still went ahead to vote for him again..Yet you're now claiming your support to be hyperbolic..I can't with this hypocrisy

Simple question, do you believe that hyperboles are the same as abject and malicious lies?

Ellexy:
1. He that killeth by the sword shall die buy the sword.
2. By thy words thou shall be justified and by thy words thou shall be condemned.
3. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

In your case we should consider it's hyperbole, but Dayo's case for example, no consideration. This is some Orwellian animal kingdom rhetoric shit.

What exactly do you mean by this??

Someone who in more than 100 posts repeatedly called people cannibals over the course of 15 solid years cannot be taken at face value??

You're comparing that to someone with a single sentence in a post which is clearly hyperbolic seeing as that sentence never occurs again?

I don't know my bro. You're flipping right now.

It is very simple. I am not "an extremely strong supporter of Buhari". Yes a single sentence in a post aimed at showing how many passive VOTERS the APC has lost with their failure doesn't indict me as a strong supporter of APC. Any sane mind reading the post can see very clearly that it's a hyperbolic statement just made to add essence to the body of my entire post. Especially when that statement was never been said earlier or repeated again afterwards.

I expect that the agenda will continue but if you cannot prove me supporting Buhari just like you all have seen my vociferoucity and passionate support of obi, then it doesn't stand.

I voted for APC but I wasn't necessarily a "supporter" of Obi. "Support" meaning to actively cajole others, to defend the party at all turns, to partake in any form of campaign for them. If I was a supporter, there will certainly be evidences towards that. Not just a simple hyperbolic statement made out of 10000 statements I've made on this forum.

CAPdan21:
So in other words you were lying?... what's the difference between you and someone like Ganduje?...

Do you consider hyperbole to be abject lies??
Because your point means you don't understand the nuances of usage of such tools of Grammer.

Ellexy:
Is it that you don't regards your own words in capital letters as actual evidence as against Dayo's words which you use against him all the time?

It's clearly a hyperbole seeing as the statement made is very clearly not true.

You are a very strong supporter of Obi, will you classify izzou as a very strong supporter of Obi despite both of you voting for him?

CAPdan21:
So in other words you were lying... what's the evidence that you're not lying that you were lying then?..

Clearly you didn't understand the English. I employed hyperbole.
Read this again please. Very well. "EXAGGERATION, NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN AT FACE VALUE".
If you're still having problem with that, I can't help.
The hyperbole is the word "strongest supporter". A big exaggeration, seeing as it is clearly not true.

CAPdan21:
No dog in this race but your actual statement that you were Buhari's strongest supporter is not evidence?...or were you on colos when you typed that?..

This is the answer to your question.

One wonders why the batists are the most enthused about this.

I have asked for actual EVIDENCE that I was indeed a STRONG SUPPORTER of Buhari.

A single post where I was very clearly being hyperbolic doesn't count. Or Abi the meaning of the word hyperbole is lost on people?

Show me where I am ACTUALLY supporting and defending the APC since it's ascension to power.

Because I wonder the planet where a post like this will be read as me actually supporting the APC.
Infact the post is about me berating an APC member by highlighting how many of us who indeed did vote for APC won't be doing so again.

donjazet:
I don't see the drug baron winning new votes.

You really think that the average Nigerian is motivated to go and vote for APC again?

We were motivated for APC 4 years ago and 8 years ago. They failed us! Many like us who voted for the APC in the hopes of them starting something new are what you call "dissatisfied voters" and you can bet your ass, a significant portion of us are OBIdient right now.

APC don show us shege, they've rubbed mud in our faces.

Me and Ibime were the strongest buhari supporters on this thread both in 2015 and 2019.

Only people like that vulture griller, mannabbq vulture griller are still making noise for that dead party.

While he doubled down on his support in the face of abject failure of the party. W
We are moving on to a new hope. A fresh party. And you can smell the breath of political revolution in the country.
Watch and see

Segedinho:
My stance on the issue is general,not limited to don j's.. if he defended Buhari then it becomes hypocrisy if he accuses people defending BAT'S DECISIONS irrespective of the outcome..


My 2 cents is on "don't rope me in,even when I vehemently criticize my principal despite my "work-rate" just b4 he assumes office..

Except, I didn't. Throughout Buhari's tenure, I have barely ever outrightly defended him. Yes I voted for him over PDP after I bought their narratives of being the solution but when I saw that their policies have failed spectacularly, what I didn't do was double down on that support and outrightly sell my conscience for whatever. My electoral decisions have been guided on what I always felt was the best decision for our democracy and our country. Unlike people who consider tribe and material selfish motivations. If I was moved by those, Jonathan would have been my defacto choice over Buhari. The corruption and insecurity rampant were sever enough for people to embrace what was basically the first ever strong opposition to the giant called PDP and the first real chance of a stronger democracy.

That's why headed back to 2015 polls, APC still remains the firm choice, because they gave we the obidients the prelude to how we can bring down a ruling party. If APC failed to win PDP then, there would be no opposition today. These were the factors I considered but I repeat, that I voted for APC doesn't mean I set up a mean defense for them even when they blatantly failed.

BlueRayDick:
This post has Okpata Yarns written all over it and I will tell u why.

1. Don J did not only vote Buhari "the messiah" in 2015, He also voted Buhari in 2019 as well. That is after he has seen the disaster Buhari's first term was.

2. Maybe u don't know Don J is a well known Hypocrite on this section, or u know and U just felt the need to defend him.... I really don't know, but I can assure u that u are barking the wrong tree in this case. You said we can only "nail" Don J if he defends Buhari in the face of evidences, well see screenshot and link below showing Don J defending Buhari in 2020. We were discussing about how Buhari has refused to address the nation in critical times and ur MCM was talking about knowing the name of our councilor, LGA chairman and house of reps members. Even Abroadians wey he dey always diss no dey do that kind gaslighting.

https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/10171#95139064

3. Maybe u don't know why most people don't take him serious here; It's because he's unstable more than some elements like uranium and plutonium

4. All these anti-APC crusade he embarked on started post ENDSARS(2021- 2022). There are people who have been speaking against the government and trying to hold them accountable while he was Buhari's biggest supporter. He is not in a position to be shouting people down or calling them names in his new found crusade. He should live and let live so we can all live happily ever after

Ohh blueray this downright evil and highly disingenuous of you. Of my 13 years on this forum, the only "defense" of mine towards the APC administration throughout the years is this singular post?? One which isn't even an outright defense but a reinforcement of a notion I've indeed consistently held and more shockingly so without the context of that post which lies in lieu of the endsars debacle?

Meanwhile the same me made this post about Buhari and consistently criticized him and other supporters who outrightly supported their evil.

donjazet:
Buhari continues to surround himself with corrupt individuals.
I had thought that as a military general, he would be strong enough to fight the cabal.
Quite disappointed though.

My history here shows that I was at best a passive VOTER not necessarily a supporter or a crusader like Oasis and larride are for Tinubu and Buhari respectively.
You can literally count on your fingers my pro-buhari posts on this forum. I was mostly anti-pdp than pro-apc.
I'm at best likened to izzou or yourself who infact did vote for Obi but can hardly be called a "strong supporter or crusader" like many obidients like myself here.

Of course, all these elaboration would do nothing to stop these outlandish notion that maybe all APC voters should never condemn APC or its PRESENT supporters. You're calling me a hypocrite without pointing out what this hypocrisy is that you speak of.

Segedinho:
Buhari was indeed a "mistaken messiah",who almost everyone taught would liberate us from the captivity of PDP, as at then, just like we were/are in for Obi today.

Humans/policians are uncertain,Obi might even went awry or worse than this administration...
I think don j's shouldn't be crucified for going in all for a change of power irrespective of the terms or chose bw 2 candidates due to his personal belief/trust......

He can only be nailed if he defends Buhari or what he chose even in d face of evidences.......
If Obi had won and maybe went against his promises,it is absolute insane to put me in whatever you dish out when I openly condemns and regret my tenacious supports...or speak the truth on his corrupt practices

Thanks bro. I'm striving so hard to understand what those that use that line aim to achieve.

I have asked them, are they saying that everyone who voted for APC previously should never ever criticize the party even when it's blindingly obvious that they failed?? Are they saying I should have doubled down on my support like dayo and laride today despite them failing on meeting our initial expectations?
If not, I don't understand this need to always point out that I voted for them even though I never defended their terrible policies. It's tiring and counterproductive.

CAPdan21:
...everyday for the thief one day for the owner...e go reach everybody

What are you referring to in particular?

Oasis003:


....explain wetin? You alleged wrongly, own it bruh. Search Oasis and Ibori, evidence full ground on this same board.

Just drop a receipt, not just 2, a receipt bro and shame the devil.

What about Wike?

What do you have to say about Wike? Is he corruption free? Is he a genuinely good guy? Is Wike good for nigeria? Answer that question honestly.

All these people talking about "holding our leaders accountable", do you believe that Wike and Tinubu are not part of that corrupt elite? I'm focusing particularly on corruption.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]You posted a picture of Tinubu and Ibori here...

What was the aim?
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Not to talk about Wike. A murderous, highly corrupt rigger. Someone whose only CV for ministerial appointment was to rig elections and silence the voice of his own subjects.

BlueRayDick:
This one no be abroadians vs naija-based residents matter . U sef u were part of the people who were against ENDSARS .

U voted buhari twice and referred to urself as one of Buhari’s biggest supporters .
Rest Don J!

Well I can't help but notice that almost every single proponent of the "free the west" narrative, are those based there. Almost every single one of them, essentially giving the argument the shape of abroadian vs residents, most especially when you factor in that many of the same folks put a spanner in the wheels of revolution.

And then need I highlight that when I voted APC, the PDP were Indeed the oppressors and voting APC then was indeed partially revolutionary in its own way?? I will never understand this "you voted Buhari shtick". And no if I tell you to prove beyond words that I vehemently supported Buhari, you wouldn't and by support, I mean, lobby intensely, defend every policy like laride did, double down on their failure.
Because at this point, it's become a common red herring, to insert that in every argument I make.
Voting APC against the PDP was very justifiable many years ago, the problem is still doing the same after witnessing their monumental failure.

BlueRayDick:
I’ve been busy of late, but I still took my time to read through the whole “ blame the west vs Hold ur African leaders accountable “ discussion. People on both sides of the table made good points 👍

However , One thing that caught my attention is the fact that some of the people who want Africans to keep the west out of their mouth but instead hold their leaders accountable ; are actually people who were either against ENDSARS , were defending government during the ENDSARS and even blamed the youth for the fall out of the protests.


I didn’t just arrive at this conclusion, I actually put “SARS” in front of monikers and did local search 🔍

The Blackman don suffer sha and the sufferness is proudly sponsored by his fellow Blackman. If he decides to face his immediate oppressors who are citizens like him voted to be in charge of government , his fellow Blackman will introduce tribal sentiments , propaganda , political sentiments to defend the oppressors .

This is nothing but the truth and exactly the point I made yesterday and you people said I was looking for fight..

Many of the abroadians here who keep shouting here that our leaders are bad and we must hold them accountable and that we should not blame the west for anything wrong with Africa are exactly the same set of people who when they saw how the youths of this country were attempting to carry out a bloodless coup via the ballot and peacefully revolt decided to align with these same class of wicked leaders. So how again are we supposed to hold our leaders accountable when you yourself align with those wicked leaders and adamantly defend them?

Look at afrodoc talking about bad African leadership now, but he's the same person who said the Nigerian youths seeking a new leadership and a revamp of the political structure were zombies and brainless mobs, so what else are we talking about? Who is deceiving who? Should we talk about dayo who radically defends anything APC but at the same time says nigeria will never get better no matter what?

Last I checked, some of these abroadians talking about this west issues were those who repeatedly told us that no matter what we ever did, nigeria can never get better. Nigeria is doomed forever. I tell you you look at the mindset of some these abroadians and you see something evil in their outlook towards their countrymen here. None of them throughout yesterday attempted to acknowledge that yes, the colonizers did cause soo much extensive damage to Africa, they're eager to tell you to move on but not eager to highlight the extreme damage done by the colonizers, that's not balanced. Not one bit.

Melvyn11:
Maybe it's just me but I like nairaland exactly the way it is. Even if seun developed an app I won't use it.

No, there are certainly some improvements that could be made to nairaland.

People have suggested countlessly to Seun that nairaland could host its own videos.
No reason why a popular site like this would not be able to host live videos.

We should be able to directly upload videos and not rely on YouTube and Twitter.
Also, no reason why Twitter videos can't play directly here.

Every twitter post, one is directed to the app or the website, why can't we view twitter posts direct here?

These were some of the improvements that we're suggested to Seun that would have made usage much better but he's just stick with this old UI.

Roland17:
It has everything to do with it. Let’s be clear, everything I put there are your words, not mines.

You absolutely can not hold your position about the negative economic impact of colonialism on Africa without involving African cultures, it is impossible.

Afterall, the idea of colonialism is deeply rooted on racism, the idea that Africans are inferior in every aspect when compared to the caucasians in this instance since they propagated colonialism.

Africans under colonialism were seen as animals with no intelligence or knowledge so yes, you are hypocritical and will not be taken serious.

Moving onto red herrings I see.
Trying to divert the conversation to something else with distractions.

And no, colonialism wasn't necessarily rooted in racism because Africa was not the only continent|country colonised by the west.

Lots of Asian countries and even middle eastern countries were colonised. India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam etc. I mean America was infact one of the earliest colonies of our own colonisers. Soo no, colonialism wasn't really about racism at least not completely.

COLONIALISM WAS ABOUT ECONOMIC EXPLOITATION OF A PEOPLE.

And the whole debate you guys are having today is centered on the economic and political legacy of colonial powers in Africa. To which I say to you, it is wrong for you an African to make such a statement that the west, our colonizers "owe us nothing". NO THEY DO OWE US SOMETHING!. Our resources both human and mineral were exploited for centuries and the effects are still felt till today. That's not nothing.

They wouldn't be where they are without us.
An African making that sentence isn't right, just withdraw that one sentence, that's all. You're actually partially correct in your other submissions especially by emphasizing that we must now pick ourselves up by ourselves and fire up ahead.

A001:
I didn't even bother to read your nonsense.

This shows your mental illness has become severe. It was on this thread you called Yoruba culture and all other African cultures barbaric and savage. Obviously, you're not in a stable mental condition. Tomorrow, you'll say something else again.

I've better things to do with my time. The same person talking about acculturation is calling the cultures of over 1.4 billion people in a region barbaric and savage.

Were oja

Repeating a lie a million times doesn't make it true.

You are bordering on being a pathological liar because no matter how many times I elucidate on my position, you still land on that sentence. Meaning you choose to lie for fun.

Again, I would correct this notion, I said ASPECTS of African culture were and some are still are barbaric. I elaborated on that and gave examples like female genital mutilation, Infant scarring, ignorant beliefs of infant witchcraft, extreme misogyny like shaving widows hair when husband died, drinking dirty bath water of husband's corpse, zero rights of inheritance for women and so on and so on, going further back, killing of babies, live human sacrifices etcetera etcetera.

I made my points very lucid and elaborated on why we must shed these ASPECTS of our culture which were indeed barbaric and inhumane and adopt modern standards. You yourself even agreed with my point that yes, culture must evolve.

But of course I'm sure you will still repeat it a hundred more times that "donjazet calls African cultures barbaric and savage in your quest to keep misrepresenting my opinion.
You're a big dumb lying fool who knows not how to express his opinions concisely and politely. Learn!

Roland17:
This is quite generous and more importantly hypocritical coming from you.

You have continuously advocated for the imposition of English Language, a Western Language over African traditional languages. According to you African cultures have no value.

You are the same person who is indifferent about being Igbo or being associated with your African tribe because “it adds no value to you”.

And I am supposed to take you serious? Not in this debate fam!

This is strawmanship at its finest.

What does my position on the continuing negative legacy of colonialism especially ECONOMICALLY on NIGERIA and AFRICA as a whole has to do with my position on acculturation and evolution of cultural aspects of life?

We're discussing primarily about the economic impacts of colonialism and you're diverting to an unrelated irrelevance. Nice try.

Acknowledge that you were wrong with your sentiment expressed that the "west owes us nothing". That's historically wrong.. they do owe us a lot if not it's blatant injustice. And They know which is why they talk about repatriation.

Oasis003:
People love “sane societies”. They want all the beautiful things they see those folks enjoy on TV. They draw the line at paying for the cost of even keeping those infrastructure running. Borrow to build. Borrow to maintain. Borrow to keep it running.

- JJ Omojuwa

This is a very foolish talking point.
It's foolish because it doesn't address the number one main issue which is TRUST! Trust and accountability. Which nigerian in his right mind would think of sacrificing for anything for his country when that sacrifice goes straight to the bin and the leaders show that they do not care about their subjects??

Look at the ministerial appointments, does it fill one with any bit of optimism when we can see that positions were used to settle scores and reward the same people who have a rich history of public theft and corruption??

This guy is chatting bullocks. He must address the root cause of lack of trust which is corruption and embezzlement from the ruling class before he makes any demand from nigerians who are already suffering enough as it is.

A001:
Keep typing trash all about. If you like start speaking Yoruba from tomorrow till next year, you're not a Yoruba person and will never be one in this life time.

If you're too dull to realize that there are diverse cultures around the world and it's unnatural for the whole world to have a single culture, then you're not worth my time.

I'm here to discuss important topics, not dumb ones.

That bolded statement exposes the shallowness of your mind.

Today when the world is a global village and acculturation is the order of the day, you keep dreaming of reinforcing a notion of monoculturism. We are supposed to adapt and blend in with each other. Do away with archaic practices and embrace modernity but you keep emphasizing the need for us to GO BACK. One wonders what you even mean by that. What are the practical steps to achieve what you mean? Especially in the modern era.

My friend you're too obsessed with irrelevances. The modern world is a global village. We are now soo interconnected. Everyone is adapting to different things. Today the world is listening to our music. THE NIGERIAN AFROBEAT. Mind you it didn't say Igbo Afrobeat or yoruba Afrobeat or Hausa Afrobeat. THE NIGERIAN AFROBEAT. Our identity to the outside world today is nigerian. Do you think that is a terrible idea. To them Pidgin language is our unique shared identity. Our jollof rice, not indigenous to any particular tribe is our most popular food outside our shores.

That is what you call acculturation. Please stop wasting time talking nonsense and vituperating nonsensically, you've basically become a nuisance on the thread with this iridescent talking point. It's tiring.

BlueRayDick:
This is one fact that will continue to be true.

The first coup plotters were very explicit about it .

The British in particular did Nigeria a strong thing with this big for nothing geographical entity they bandied together

What book is this?

A001:
You're too dull for me to be engaging. He's even too unintelligent to know the implications of Africans abolishing their cultures and traditions. Your mumu na follow-come.

Does this m.oron even know what's called colonialization again?

Of course your default mode. Incapable of entertaining a counter point. Everything is somehow triggering for you and must devolve into personal abuse to deflect the fact that you can't make an intelligent counter.

I said we must evolve, not go back and somehow it's an atrocity for you. Grow up.

A001:
Isese is the totality of Yoruba culture and traditions. Stop talking ignorantly about a subject you know little about.

Like I said before, start your silly agenda from the Igbo culture. I'm not here to discuss stupid topics.

Posting garbage all about embarrassing yourself in public. So a Yoruba should abolish his culture and embrace the English culture that is without bad aspects.

This one is so dull and unintelligent clamoring for Africans to go back to being a colony of the British people again .

Most Africans are cursed with low intelligence.

Can you point me to where I said the bolded? What's wrong with your comprehension?

I'm saying that we're supposed to be looking forward not backwards. You keep making the statement that Africans need to GO BACK to their ancient culture, to which I say no, rather we should evolve from them and embrace the modern world. I'm an Igbo man who loves yoruba foods, who wears foreign made clothes, who loves foreign movies, who speaks a foreign language that enables me to communicate effectively with a vast part of the entire globe. Bad who doesn't give a fvck about any religion. That is in a nutshell the modern man. Do you have a problem with any of that? Should this be a problem for anyone?

You really should stop this advocation of regression. Stop telling us to go back, tell us to look forward and find our way in the world.

Roland17:
Listen to yourself sounding like an entitled brat. They should give you, they should give you!!!!!The West owes you absolutely nothing !
Address the elephant in the room instead of this merry go round about the West.

I disagree with that sentence very strongly.

The statement, "the west owes you nothing" can't be right. That erodes ones sense of justice. The west committed soo many atrocities and exploited our people for soooo long. They killed, kidnapped, maimed our fathers up until just few decades ago. To cause and inflict that much suffering and then leave like that (for those that have left) is simply not right. Which is why you even hear some of their thinkers talk about repatriation after factoring in what our resources, human and material added and made them who they are today. The west would not be what it is today without the African continent so yeah, it's very appalling for an African to boldly declare that the "west owes us nothing". That's a very strong and wrong sentiment and statement.

A001:
These terrorists are making Isese, Yoruba's culture and traditions, become more popular. It's important that educated Yoruba people promote the native culture and traditions and take part in the local festivals.

This is necessary because many aspects of Isese need to be reformed, and people of high intelligence and exposure are needed to achieve this aim.

There are many ancient beliefs and practices in Isese that should be abolished because they've lost relevance in modern times.

The same thing applies to other local cultures and traditions in other parts of Africa.

Highly intelligent Yoruba people should introduce philosophy, science, and critical thinking into Isese to develop this culture so that Yorubas can move forward.

Aspects such as making sacrifices to a deity, worshipping gods/goddesses, and others don't have any importance in modern times.

Oro practice should be modernized or abolished.

Africans generally should learn from history: When the colonizers and slave masters came, the gods and goddesses couldn't save anyone.

If people keep engaging in making sacrifices to, or worshipping, one deity or the other, the continent won't be able to grow and develop like other regions of the world.

And if foreign people invade the continent again in the future, they'll still be successful again if Africans fail to get rid of their ancient beliefs and norms based on superstition and fear of the supernatural.

Any culture that doesn't grow with the times will die sooner or later.

Making sacrifices to a deity and worshipping god/God have no usefulness in the modern world.

It's time Yoruba people embraced science, philosophy, and critical thinking instead of religion and superstition, so we can move forward.

How about one does away completely with both the isese and the Abrahamic religions?

Because saying people should leave Christianity and Islam but then go back and embrace isese religion sounds to me like regression.

I'm sure several aspects of isese' practices cannot be Intune with modern standards. I will hazard a guess that isese practices today still entail, female enslavement, male supremacy, diabolical practices and soo on. Just guessing here. Like, hey this part is only for men, no women allowed. Should we start reinforcing outdated practices?

Nairalanders should be aware of the propaganda network of the APC on this site.

Many pro-apc commented here are not average users like you and I but a paid group of individuals who are paid to try and shape and manipulate public opinion.

A key way to notice it to observe how their likes in some posts are very similar to the numbers of likes on pro-obi posts.

Beware, don't fall victim to their propaganda

I've always been of the opinion that we Africans have no excuse for not having been far ahead than we are right now. Other countries that were on the same footing with us have found different ways to forge ahead. Malaysia, Singapore, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, south Korea, Indonesia, Thailand etc.

Every single one of these countries ranked below 70th on the wealthy nations scale as of the 50's and today they've all grown into manufacturing and tech hubs with different specialities. Or have used their natural resources proficiently. All are characterised by leaders with vision and minimal corruption in public service.

Unlike Africa where the leaders have decided to be the most greedy and wicked leaders with no end in sight.

But having highlighted this, I would indeed like to point out that the colonial powers are the architect of our problems. As in, the legacy and impact of colonialism and neocolonialism cannot be understated. The west cared about their interests to the detriment of African countries, they assassinated our leaders, they overworked our people for their commercial gains, they enlisted our fathers to fight their wars, they directly influenced our politics and leaders and looked away at the excesses of their stooges.

Till today, they gladly encourage and store the embezzled wealth stolen by the leaders of our country, some of which they are directly responsible for their ascension to power.

So no the west are not blameless, they actively encourage corruption of our leaders so far as it is in their interests.
But the solution to this, is for we the people to revolt against these leaders, overcome their propaganda, not listen to their enablers who either earn from them or have other ulterior motives and come together to send them packing. Our last effort came a little bit short but it has set a precedence of what is possible.

We must revolt against our leaders and elect leaders with vision across the board. Nothing like tribal politics or religious politics but competence and integrity.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Dis G-guy u make sense die

You don't know Griffon?

I've been saying that this distroy fella is basically nihilist alternate masking himself. But people wouldn't believe. Tech guy from akwaibom. make I hear. Face me directly my man.