₦airaland Forum

sarzy:
Don't derail from the thread. If a pharmacist is faulty, he will be castigated. Do you remember the case in Lagos in 2012 when a lady who died was said to have been drugged by a pharmacist? I can't remember the name. No one mentioned a doctor. That pharmacist is still facing trial till today. People are castigating the doctor because this particular story involves a doctor. Why should you blame a brick-layer when your mechanic makes a terrible mistake while trying to fix your car?

And the last time I checked,health care delivery involves team'seffort.

sarzy:
Don't derail from the thread. If a pharmacist is faulty, he will be castigated. Do you remember the case in Lagos in 2012 when a lady who died was said to have been drugged by a pharmacist? I can't remember the name. No one mentioned a doctor. That pharmacist is still facing trial till today. People are castigating the doctor because this particular story involves a doctor. Why should you blame a brick-layer when your mechanic makes a terrible mistake while trying to fix your car?

And the last time I checked,health care delivery involves team effort.

I notice Everyone is castigating the doctors..Why not pharmacists,lab scientists et al? yet, they clamour for equity.our govt sef no dey try.

Elliotwiz1:
I've lived with pharmacy students and one graduated with a first class so I know a lot about the structure of your courses. see in medicine every course is like a degree programme. what I mean is we finish the whole physiology , anatomy etc textbooks from front page to back page within a stipulated time, normally 18 months. and that's the same workload people in department of physiology biochemistry cover over 4 years and we're expected to know it better than them, but in pharmacy your course is barely a 100 page material and different lectures take each course and set tests on their part further reducing the number of pages to be read per test. we read text books for exams and you read materials for exams. there's a whole difference, if you doubt any of these do your research.

see lie from the pith of hell. pharmacy is not a classified degree.

demzade:
Guess you studied the two. But the question is... How tough is studying medicine on Nigeria. Smh

so,you're pained?

FredBloggs:
I don't think that school is accredited o. she should start arranging another Jamb @ UI to avoid story that touch later .

You beat to this!Some people might regret ever chosen that untimed of a school.

FredBloggs:
I don't think that school is accredited o. she should start arranging another Jamb @ UI to avoid story that touch later .

You beat to this!

Nelico:
U are very very ignorant of the contents of human medicine. Dental students are absolutely ignorant of paediatrics, psychiatry, community medicine, family medicine, and only have introductory knowledge of internal medicine & surgery. Pls dont allow a dentist handle ur medical & surgical conditions. Its tantamount to suicide.

A medical(medicine) student is totally ignorant of all dental courses ranging from oral biology to restorative dentistry et al including cleft lip and palate surgery, orthognatic surgery,facial trauma,facial orthopaedic surgery et al..If a medical doctor handles all this,you're gone!..NB:Dentists are not ignorant of all you mentioned.

icecalm:
Your insight and judgment is also appreciated.

The additional difficulty in the comparison of each paired courses is given by their positions.

1-- ^{Veterinary Medicine}_{Human Medicine}

2-- ^Physics_Chemistry

3-- ^Engineering_Architecture

4-- ^Dentistry_Optometry

5-- ^Biochemistry_Pharmacy

6-- ^{Animal Science}_Microbiology

7-- ^Economics_Mathematics

8-- ^Law_Philosophy

9-- ^Geology_Marketing

10- ^Sociology_Psychology

SORRY IS YOUR CASE.

Kunlexic:
i reffered to drdonzeez,,,am confused the dr in his moniker suggest he is studying medicine too

so,one must study medicine before he bears the title. What class are you?

isblog:
I thank God you only typed this... If only you knew better you would delete your comment. Respect to all other medical allied courses though

I assume you to a Dullard if you think vet. Med and Dentistry are allied.

emmaliver:
Hallucination

SIMPLETON.

Stegomiah:
To say medicine and surgery is the most difficult course is an understatement.

For starters, in 18months you will have to do biochemistry, anatomy and physiology with an additional course. The whole of it, when you think it's the same courses each one of it some takes 4-5 years to study

In 4 months you will have to finish the whole pharmacology text
What it takes pharmacy and pharmacology students 5 years

Another 4 months to finish the whole pathology text
Pathology is divided into morbid anatomy, chemical pathology, hematology and microbiology
Microbiology is divided into bacteriology, fungalogy, parasitology and virology
All these are specialties, people take years to students
The clinicals is mad, medicine, surgery, o&g, peadiatrics.....

It's only in medicine 24hrs ain't enuf
Medicine makes extraordinary students ordinary
Turns humans into beast
I had to revise 175detailed slides in 20mins and know everything in there
It frustrates you
The stress, calls, wardrounds, practicals, annoying lecturers, exam tension, thrills

You have to have high tolerance, discipline and endurance level to survive

The exams are not here, time always insufficient

Negative marking, am not sure other departments does that

Lectures 8am to 5pm, evening you dey clinic
You don't have your saturdays to you everytime

I don't know about your medical school, but mine is really crazy in here
So don't even try comparing medicine with any other course

Mind you the best of the best are in medicine, many headboys in ma set, state champions, national champions, yet some still get withdrawn, majority keep on struggling.
Medicine is depressing, sometimes not mentally owkay, schizophrenic...

I don't expect you to understand, only one that passes thru the process will

If you so mad try to get admission to study medicine first, and not transfer aggression of not being able to secure an admission thus ridiculing how difficult medical school is

A king is only a king in his village!you can't know what you don't know.

drjoshua2000:
Mr Man stop deceiving yourself. Many wannabe medical doctors that end up as dentists or vetinary doctors make this shameful sentiment, however 99% of them actually wanted to be medical doctors.

How does your analogy affects this topic?Does it means that you (medical doctor) will be better of.Use your brain next time!

CivilzedTyger:
she no even fine sef

SEE AS SHE RESEMBLE MAMMY WATER.

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Abdullahi4u7:
enlighten me more please. Has it taken any tangible step towards getting accreditation?

Even if It had secured it's first clinical accreditation which I'm not sure ,you cannot rule out the fact that It won't face any challenge in the future ! It's more adviceable to pick a well established medical school. Even though,challenges may come up in one way or the other,It's reputation will speak for itself.I'm sure you wouldn't want to spend 12 years studying medicine. there are better institutions around.Goodluck!

tevinsolt:
it is your human right to be your sister provided she is an adult and consents to being with you, you idioot............the question is, is it right to have sexual relations with your blood?
it is your right to eat shitt if you like, but would you wanna do that?

so same sex marriage is morally right? Guy,you need help.

Abdullahi4u7:
why is it bad pls?

Because It has not graduated any medical doctor till date!

Abdullahi4u7:
Pls hope it isn't a bad idea applying for medicine through JAMB at UNIABUJA?

it's very bad!

Gbsks:
Did you study medicine too? If no then you can't say d other courses you mentioned are tougher and if you read his post he said only those that studied the course can testify of the difficulty level.

Which means we've all committed falacy!

INTERMAN:
he is a doctor

And who cares!Did he study pharmacy, Dentistry et al.I hold no qualm with Dr.Lagausta.he's a role model.

Lagusta:
You see, most people don't realize how medicine and surgery is until they experience it themselves....

My colleague mowah has told u just the academics that go with it, he didn't tell you anything about the responsibilities that flow with it....

Do you want to talk about the lectures (from 8am-6pm everyday, no break, sometimes some profs can hold lectures at 10pm, and you won't say crap) the practicals (during preclinical) and the ward rounds/clinics (during clinical)....

What of the crazy exams, answering 800 objective questions in 3hrs, then coming back that same day to answer all 17essay questions..... Even before that, you write exams nearly every month.....

During ward rounds, you are abused, castigated, told that you can never make it in life, you can never be a doctor, in front of your patient....

Medicine, to me, is the toughest course ever, then we could mention others later

This is your personal opinion!thanks.

Lagusta:
You see, most people don't realize how medicine and surgery is until they experience it themselves....

My colleague mowah has told u just the academics that go with it, he didn't tell you anything about the responsibilities that flow with it....

Do you want to talk about the lectures (from 8am-6pm everyday, no break, sometimes some profs can hold lectures at 10pm, and you won't say crap) the practicals (during preclinical) and the ward rounds/clinics (during clinical)....

What of the crazy exams, answering 800 objective questions in 3hrs, then coming back that same day to answer all 17essay questions..... Even before that, you write exams nearly every month.....

During ward rounds, you are abused, castigated, told that you can never make it in life, you can never be a doctor, in front of your patient....

Medicine, to me, is the toughest course ever, then we could mention others later

This is your personal opinion!

Lagusta:
I see posts like this and laugh.....

There is no yardstick to defining how tough a course is but that was a personal opinion.

veteniary medicine, Dentistry and Dental surgery and pharmacy are all tougher than medicine. just that medicine is more difficult to get into.

Uniben absence on the list hereby renders your list valueless and invalid.

UncleSnr:
Churning them out raw. Not half baked.

Uniben absence on the list hereby renders your list valueless and invalid.

favoured234:
To each his own, I didn't study any of those courses, I studied something that people will refer to as lucrative, but if I could take back the hands of time I would have studied agricultural science/animal science

What course did you study?

favoured234:
More lucrative than dentistry.....
Reason: If teeth pain me, my grandmamma go give me agbo.. But if eye pain me I will not even allow a GP look at the eye

And If it requires surgery, an optometrist will do it?Dentistry is wider than what you think.

Shekstatari:
I often time hear people say, "Vet med is harder and more difficult than Human med".... Good evening y'all

Ehn Ehn,so,what should we do?

awolam:
A few points to note here

1. Optometry is recognized as a noble profession especially in the western hemisphere which can take up to 8 yrs to complete. (3-4 yrs Bachelors + 4yrs Optometry School). Pre-graduation for Optometrists theses are often considered Doctorate level. Most often than not, they bypass Masters degree and earn a PhD degree.
2. Dentists typically earn more salary than Optometrists in a hospital/clinical setting...but not by much really. Outside the west, Optometrists are not considered doctors...a myth... but they really are. See: [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optometry
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3. In Nigeria, and the Middle-East, Dentists earn more salary than Optometrists because they are considered doctors and Optometrists (not considered as docs.) Dentistry belong to the same association with Medical Doctors and will thus benefit from the political and lobbying power of the latter. For the record, the NMA approach the Optometry board to join, but were turned down for fear of suppression. Dental association agreed to join thus enjoying the largess that normally accrue to Medical doctors.
4. In a private clinic setting, Optometrists earn far more than Dentists due to the sheer volume and lucrativeness of eyecare. It is for this reason you often see optical retail chain behemoths in United States, Canada, Australia, U.K and the middle-east. The one my brother works in (Middle-East has about 100 branches and rakes in minimum N10b annually). Dentists will rely on occasional big-hitters which is often beyond the scope of most private dental practices (most surgical cases are treated in tertiary hospitals.
5. As far as course content is concerned, the Optometry curriculum closely mirrors that of their Medical Doctor counterparts. I won't dwell much on this here. A simple google search would suffice.
6. The failure rate within and outside Nigeria is huge. In Nigeria, you fail ONE clinical course, you repeat a YEAR! Fail two courses, you repeat TWO years...you get my drift.

My brother currently earns about $4,931/month in the middle-east in a private setting. Tax free.

A dentist (non-consultant) will earns between $5,480 - $7,670/month in the middle-east in private setups. Tax free.

Closing thoughts:

Optometrists earn a bit lower than Dentists overall albeit enjoying a "cleaner" work environment devoid of mouth odor, blood spills, and sundry discharges.

Both Optometry and Dentistry are noble professions in their own right and the success of individuals in each profession depends on how you go about your career (Salary earner vs Private clinic entrepreneur).

Hope this settles the unnecessary fight.

Thank you.

pls can you give us your source when and where the Dental association approached NMA and how optometrists turned down their offer?you could tell us optometrists refused to join the Ghana Medical association,Kenya medical association et al.and,they all accepted Dental surgeons.