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dspecial001:
I am glad you said I got a few things wrong; this implies that I got most things right.[i][/i]
Going back to your question, you said Mobil 1 is not sold in Nigeria by Mobil. This is absolutely false. The official distributor of Mobil 1 in Nigeria is Mobil Nigeria (now owned by 11plc). Maybe you have been away from Nigeria for long and those giving information are telling you lies. All over Mobil petrol stations in Lagos, Mobil 1 is displayed on their racks.
I have used another product (Favoil) and I am satisfied with it. I don’t need review to make my decision because I know what I am doing.

dspecial001:
I am glad you said I got a few things wrong; this implies that I got most things right.[i][/i]
Going back to your question, you said Mobil 1 is not sold in Nigeria by Mobil. This is absolutely false. The official distributor of Mobil 1 in Nigeria is Mobil Nigeria (now owned by 11plc). Maybe you have been away from Nigeria for long and those giving information are telling you lies. All over Mobil petrol stations in Lagos, Mobil 1 is displayed on their racks.
I have used another product (Favoil) and I am satisfied with it. I don’t need review to make my decision because I know what I am doing.

dspecial001:
I am glad you said I got a few things wrong; this implies that I got most things right.[i][/i]
Going back to your question, [b]you said Mobil 1 is not sold in Nigeria by Mobil. [/b]This is absolutely false. The official distributor of Mobil 1 in Nigeria is Mobil Nigeria (now owned by 11plc). Maybe you have been away from Nigeria for long and those giving information are telling you lies. All over Mobil petrol stations in Lagos, Mobil 1 is displayed on their racks.
I have used another product (Favoil) and I am satisfied with it. I don’t need review to make my decision because I know what I am doing.

dspecial001:
You are actually missing the point. I am not here canvassing for any product or to discredit any product. I do not work for Favoil and I am sure you are not an employee of Mobil 1. I wonder why you are so passionate about defending mobil 1. Mobil 1 is a quality oil, no doubt about that but there are other quality oil of same quality as mobil 1. I just want Nigerians to make informed decision that they do not have to be taken for granted just because they want to buy quality oil
For your information, I have been using mobil 1 in the past but I stopped because I realise that they are taking us for a fool by selling it at very high price to Nigerians. They have taken Nigerians for a fool. Back in 2016/2017, mobil 1 sells for about #12,000. Beginning of 2018 when the dollar was exchanging at #500 to $1, they increased the price to about #17500. When the exchange rate dropped back to #360 to $1, they never reduced the price. This is where someone like you saw an opportunity to take advantage of the situation. You are neither a distributor nor staff of mobil 1. You asked your relatives abroad to buy the Mobil 1 because it is reasonably priced in USA and send to you so that you take advantage of the high price in Nigeria. There is nothing bad about what you are doing, you are taking advantage of an unfortunate situation to make money.
What I want Nigerians to do is to protest against Mobil 1 and how to protest is not to buy Mobil 1 again until they bring their price to what is sold in USA. You might want to argue that the cost of importation and clearing in Nigeria is expensive. That is not the case because Walmart selling it at $28 is already making profit after paying VAT, Taxes, staff salary and overheads However people like you are selling it for #17500
So my message to Nigerians is simple, stop being fooled. Do not pay excessively for a premium quality oil. Try other products apart from Mobil 1. Some other products are of better quality than Mobil 1

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dspecial001:
Honestly dru 23, I should have stopped responding to you if we were in a private conversation but because this is a public forum I will respond because the public deserves the truth. The bible says “My people perish because of lack of knowledge”. I will repeat again that you are only interested in selling and not providing a service. You import engine oil at $22 (#7960) from US and sell to Nigeria at #17,500. You are only interested in making profit and you don’t understand the product you are selling. I will advise that you do some research on the internet to understand the oil you are selling.
Now going back to your question; you circled a part of mobil 1 data sheet and asked that does Favoil meets the following specification.

ACEA -A1/B1, A5/B5
API - SN, SM, SL, SJ

ACEA means (Association des Constructeurs Europeens d'Automobiles) represents the interests of European vehicle manufacturers. But remember at the beginning of the discussion you said and European oil cannot be used for American spec car and now you are referring to European spec. For you information Favoil meets C3 specification which is superior to A1/B1, A5/B5. Please note that Mobil 1 also have C3 specification which is more expensive that A1/B1, A5/B5 but you traders tend to import the cheap ones as long as it is mobil 1.
API – SN, SM, SL,SJ. The highest API specification for petrol engines is SN, (SM, SL, SJ are older versions). A new specification SP is due for release in May 2020 by API. You might wonder where I got all these information from; it is because I do a lot of research to understand what I buy. Favoil has both SN/CF (latest dual certification for petrol and diesel engines).

dspecial001:
Honestly dru 23, I should have stopped responding to you if we were in a private conversation but because this is a public forum I will respond because the public deserves the truth. The bible says “My people perish because of lack of knowledge”. I will repeat again that you are only interested in selling and not providing a service. You import engine oil at $22 (#7960) from US and sell to Nigeria at #17,500. You are only interested in making profit and you don’t understand the product you are selling. I will advise that you do some research on the internet to understand the oil you are selling.
Now going back to your question; you circled a part of mobil 1 data sheet and asked that does Favoil meets the following specification.

ACEA -A1/B1, A5/B5
API - SN, SM, SL, SJ

ACEA means (Association des Constructeurs Europeens d'Automobiles) represents the interests of European vehicle manufacturers. But remember at the beginning of the discussion you said and European oil cannot be used for American spec car and now you are referring to European spec. For you information Favoil meets C3 specification which is superior to A1/B1, A5/B5. Please note that Mobil 1 also have C3 specification which is more expensive that A1/B1, A5/B5 but you traders tend to import the cheap ones as long as it is mobil 1.
API – SN, SM, SL,SJ. The highest API specification for petrol engines is SN, (SM, SL, SJ are older versions). A new specification SP is due for release in May 2020 by API. You might wonder where I got all these information from; it is because I do a lot of research to understand what I buy. Favoil has both SN/CF (latest dual certification for petrol and diesel engines).

dspecial001:
Please note that I am not in this forum to discredit any engine oil or promote any other brand of engine oil. If you refer to my earlier post, I only asked for advise. Upon using the product, I was satisfied and decided to upload my experience.

Below is data sheet for both oils and I expect experts to analyse both data sheets and compare

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dspecial001:
You are only selling a product and you don't understand the technicality. I expect you to learn from those who know better than you rather than you defending the indefensible because you want to make money. May I ask you what is mobil1 TBN.

Mobil 1 data sheet does not specifiy TBN. Follow this link to understand what TBN is? Mobil 1 data heet does not have TBN.

https://www.amsoil.com/newsstand/articles/what-is-total-base-number/

Also mobil 1 has much sulphur ashes (0.8%) than Favoil (0.6%). I will repeat again, I am not here to sell a product neither am I here to spoil your business. If you want to defend or sell a product, I will advise that you prove your knowledge and rightly divide the word of truth Tim 2:15

Joehigashi:
If u like sell ur Mobil for 5k,i won't buy. I dnt follow d crowd. There are other brands that serve same purpose. Fact that u only have Mobil and Castrol does not mean they are d best.

legalwealth:
Do you think these are genuine mobil 1 and Castrol from USA or not?

radautoworks:
And yet my son had the highest IGCSE scores of his school, is on his way to college after finishing secondary at 16, and my daughter is way ahead of her peers.

In the US he was just passing along because they were more concerned about testing than learning. I know, I taught there for 8 years.

dspecial001:
Please note that I am not in this forum to discredit any engine oil or promote any other brand of engine oil. If you refer to my earlier post, I only asked for advise. Upon using the product, I was satisfied and decided to upload my experience.

Below is data sheet for both oils and I expect experts to analyse both data sheets and compare

[img]https://imagizer./img921/8569/BEgosT.jpg[/img]

[img]https://imagizer./img922/4489/fiUiMN.jpg[/img]

[img]https://imagizer./img922/8989/glTnKI.jpg[/img]

dspecial001:
You are right, I drive an American car but I do not look out for the country where engine oil is made. I look out for the specification. I look out for the API rating (American Petroleum Institute). In this case, this oil has API rating of SN/CF.
We are talking about engine oil that is used to lubricate engines not the country where cars are made. Cars are assembled all over the world and they use same components. Engines are rated on their combustion fuel and brake horse power. The engine of 1.6 litre petrol honda car assembled in Europe is same as 1.6 litre engine honda assembled in USA or Japan.
Mobil 1 is made by US company and the Castrol you are selling is made by a BP (British Petroleum) a British company.
All engine oils have dual certifcation, Mobil 1 and Castrol engine oils are labelled with American and European certification. If you look at the labels, you will see that they have API SN which is American and A3/B4 which is european.
So irrespective of where an oil is produced, what is important is the specifcation. Its just like saying that you can only fill your car which is imported from America with petrol that is refined in US. Ireespective of where engine oil or petrol is made, the most important thing is that it conforms to the relevant standard.

As far as I am concerned, I rate this oil extremely high and I will continue to use iy

Joehigashi:
I care less how much u sell your product but be assured that this world is big enough and all cars on the road cannot use only Mobil oil.
The fact that you have never heard of favoil does not make it a bad brand.there was a time you never heard of Mobil.
Ps-peugeot recommends Total just like BMW recommends Castrol, Ford recommends Motorcraft. It's all politics.everyone cannot sleep and face the same side. MOBIL OR NO Mobil, when it's time for engine to knock, it would knock. Or do u also sell Mobil 1 timing belt?

dspecial001:
I went on google to search for Favoil and it came up with their company website. I sent and email to them to request their data sheet. I do not think it will be appropriate for me to send the data sheet to you or share it in this post as I am not their sales representative. I will advise that you send an email to them on sales@dasilad.com to request for their data sheet. Their website is www.dasilad.com

If you give me your email address, I can send mobil 1 data sheet for you to compare.

Joehigashi:
Is it your cheaper?

radautoworks:
1. Agreed but a lot of the US is the same. Only the metropolitan cities have excellent roads.
2. B.S. when people get jobs, they act like you owe them a favor. Poor work ethic in general. It's like "oh...I have to work for this pay..?" If jobs were that hard, people would value them. With the exception of rad auto works, the employees at my other companies' work ethic astounds me on a daily basis. I just no get their time at the moment.
3. Yes, but power isn't exactly cheap overseas either
4. Agreed. But US is not much better. Or you don't see these people dying there because they came afford healthcare?

I never wanted to go. My parents made me and that's why I came back first chance I could. I work as hard here as I did there but I also get to KEEP more of my earnings here.
Also, made sure my kids went to school here and not the USA so....

radautoworks:
1. Agreed but a lot of the US is the same. Only the metropolitan cities have excellent roads.
2. B.S. when people get jobs, they act like you owe them a favor. Poor work ethic in general. It's like "oh...I have to work for this pay..?" If jobs were that hard, people would value them. With the exception of rad auto works, the employees at my other companies' work ethic astounds me on a daily basis. I just no get their time at the moment.
3. Yes, but power isn't exactly cheap overseas either
4. Agreed. But US is not much better. Or you don't see these people dying there because they came afford healthcare?

I never wanted to go. My parents made me and that's why I came back first chance I could. I work as hard here as I did there but I also get to KEEP more of my earnings here.
Also, made sure my kids went to school here and not the USA so....

dspecial001:
I went on google to search for Favoil and it came up with their company website. I sent and email to them to request their data sheet. I do not think it will be appropriate for me to send the data sheet to you or share it in this post as I am not their sales representative. I will advise that you send an email to them on sales@dasilad.com to request for their data sheet. Their website is www.dasilad.com

If you give me your email address, I can send mobil 1 data sheet for you to compare.

dspecial001:
Please note that I am not disputing the quality of the oil you sell. I am just saying that I used a oil which stands shoulder to shoulder with the likes of mobil 1 and castrol. Mobil 1 and castrol are good oil but they are extremely overpriced in Nigeria. Mobil 1 sells for $22 dollars in walmart USA which is approximately #7920 but it is sold in Nigeria for #17500 in Nigeria. Mobil 1 has taken Nigerians for granted (our mumu don do). As far as I am concerned, I have switched from mobil 1 and I know use Favoil which is moderatley priced and of very good quality perhaps better than mobil 1. I have been to their website and downloaded their data sheet

radautoworks:
Also good points. But people still need to be disabused about certain notions about leaving the country

Beautyaddy:
Thank you!!

I will never discourage anyone from leaving the shithole(Nigeria) if given chance to do so.

As I have stated earlier get out of Nigeria to saner Countries( whose currency is of a higher value by far than the Naira), get their passport, AND I EMPHASIZE AGAIN THAT YOU GET THEIR PASSPORT so that you will not need to beg for visa to visit most sane Countries, invest in a job that will enable you to invest in retirements in that sane Country so that you will be entitled to from both the jobs and social securities retirement money you have paid into the system after retirement.

thebigkendo:
All does telling you Nigeria is good.. We came back.. All have the blue passport .. Their children have the blue passport..
They left when they were young & made it in america,they are now telling the young you.. We came back.. Nigeria is good
If your have a blue passport & as much dollars(which was made in America) as they do.. Nigeria will also be wonderful place to live for you ..
If you are from an extremely rich "oil" family.. Nigeria will also be a wonderful place to live for you..
I personally have no plans to migrate or leave naija because I am doing "alright" but if my jobless or struggling brother comes to me & tells me "Bros.. I want leave this country" .. I will not tell him Nigeria is good because I am doing fine.. I will sponsor him, up till my last kobo to leave this shithole of a country..

dspecial001:
I bought it from a trader in First gate Agidingbi Ogba Lagos, he convinced me to buy the product and I have never regretted it. So many traders are selling the product there.

I also asked the trader where can I buy it from if I am not in that area. He asked me to contact this number 090 787 75903

Joehigashi:
Op, pls where can I get the favoil oil, I would like to use it too.

EgunMogaji2:
You're speaking the truth.

Let me preface what I'm about to say that anyone has a right to live where ever they want.

That being said, I take a slight offense at the constant blows being dealt to NIgeria and Nigerians that are left behind. Why don't people just go on with their life abroad? Why do they have to ridicule those that either choose to stay or unable to make the move?

A lot of us are coming back home. I came back home this year after being gone for 33 years. Nigeria, as you said, is a wonderful place to live in if you are structured. I could have retired anywhere in the world. But I prefer Nigeria and especially Ibadan. That I chose to move to Ibadan destabilized one frustrated oil monkey on here who said I moved backwards

dspecial001:
You are right, I drive an American car but I do not look out for the country where engine oil is made. I look out for the specification. I look out for the API rating (American Petroleum Institute). In this case, this oil has API rating of SN/CF.
We are talking about engine oil that is used to lubricate engines not the country where cars are made. Cars are assembled all over the world and they use same components. Engines are rated on their combustion fuel and brake horse power. The engine of 1.6 litre petrol honda car assembled in Europe is same as 1.6 litre engine honda assembled in USA or Japan.
Mobil 1 is made by US company and the Castrol you are selling is made by a BP (British Petroleum) a British company.
All engine oils have dual certifcation, Mobil 1 and Castrol engine oils are labelled with American and European certification. If you look at the labels, you will see that they have API SN which is American and A3/B4 which is european.
So irrespective of where an oil is produced, what is important is the specifcation. Its just like saying that you can only fill your car which is imported from America with petrol that is refined in US. Ireespective of where engine oil or petrol is made, the most important thing is that it conforms to the relevant standard.

As far as I am concerned, I rate this oil extremely high and I will continue to use iy

Paccus:
I am sure that man or woman is a retiree, who is in his late 50s to 60s...it is wonderful to retiree in Nigeria after working in USA... you earn your pension in dollars and spend in Naira , he will automatically become a very rich man in that ibadan, any small sickness he will book ticket to US for treatments , if he was earning in naira he will know how far

chidekings:
The place u use to work