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Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op):
thebigkendo:
So you mean.. We should follow user manual by using "recommended" oil, then we should not follow user Manual by doing 12k oil change?

The pic you shared.. Is that user manual? Or was mobil 1 extended performance oil mentioned? Or any synthetic oil?
Funny enough some higher model cars manual tells you can change oil at longer interval.. If using Full synthetic oil and it can be up to 10k miles ...we had this discussion before . I posted a Toyota manual that says so ...have to look again

Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 11:01am On Sep 10, 2019
mammanbawa:
Whatever rows your boat
We can agree to disagree ....
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op):
Xneg:
It definitely can't be common in the USA because that's not Nigeria. Different climate.
states like Florida, Las Vegas, New Mexico, Texas, Arizona just to name few .. They all have similar climate as in Nigeria ...some might be hotter than Nigeria ....

If you are buying good quality engine oil .. The oil should be Multi grade ,meaning that it can do well both in hot and cold climate ... keep in mind too car manufacturers are building better engines... so the need for thicker oil will no longer be needed .. Oil manufactures are also improving on their oil too..
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op):
thebigkendo:
Oga say we should follow user manual.. But the same Oga say we should do 12k miles with his miracle oil, Please which user manual asked up to do 12k miles on synthetic oil?

The hustle is real sha..
1. I still use Mobil 1 extended performace on all my uber cars.. With Fram oil filters for 15k miles interval... And due to the rough driving conditions stop and go dust etc I change my oil every 12k miles.. This has been going on for the two years plus after firing my old manager ... if u now compare the oil I was that eventually mess up my engines causing oil shortage, I think my Extended Performance oil is doing just fine ...

2. You mention that the hustle is real ? If I really wanted to make money I will just sale the regular USA Mobil and tell customers to come back to do oil change every 5k miles .. This way I make more money by having customers come for frequent unnessary oil change... And mind u my price is the same as the USA non extended performace Mobil 1 oil .....Think about it

3.. Read to understand my friend.... Maybe the oil you are using can't go the distance.. Now if I drive highway driving majority of the time ,than I will go the full distance of 15k miles oil change interval ..since the cars are use for stressful jobs I change them every 12k miles ...


4. When was the last time I complain of engine issue on nairaland? After using the rite oil on my cars I never really had issues apart from the wear and tear on the cars from uber..

5. Has anybody ever complain and came on the forum and said that they bought oil from and my advice damage their cars..so my brother just quietly and sit down..

6. The same oil that am using both personally and business wise is what am selling.. At least you can't say that am not using the product that am selling...

7.. Am waiting for the rest of my goods to clear from the port. Once that is clear ,USA Full synthetic oil is about to be affordable for everyone.... When that happens am waiting to hear what u going to say ....

8. Stay bless bro...

Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 5:39am On Sep 10, 2019
sultaan:
Which port did you drop it at? I have my keep on the house for over a month waiting for Hendricks to send it to Manheim
Providence RH
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 2:08am On Sep 10, 2019
Xneg:
What he's trying to say is that, they never consider Nigeria when building this engines, if they did, you will see that engine oil recommended when d vehicle is exlorted might be slightly different.

I use 5w30 for my Lexus but my mum had a Toyota matrix she bought 2005 and the vehicle is still running fine today, 20w50 for 14yrs now. So tell me, if your engine runs fine after 14yrs, what more tmdo you need?
Runs fine and runs efficiently are two different things ...I rather have my engine run efficiently by using the rite quality oil... do u know that 20w50 is not a common viscosity in USA .. I check Mobil 1 and other top selling engine oil brand. I couldn't not find it at all very rare ....... A light bulb came to my head and Saud since naija want wreck their engine faster, maybe I should help them by selling 20w50 oil ...omo I search tired and I couldnt get some to buy in large quantities like I do with my other Mobil 1 extended performance... I was sad o...
And your mom's car that has been using 20w50 I would like to take a physical look at the engine ...just curious to see how the engine is holding up ....

Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 12:11am On Sep 10, 2019
mammanbawa:
You're so funny
I said my vehicles
PS I never used a Range Rover
And the price of a vehicle doesn't necessarily mean it requires expensive oil change though I know vehicles like Range Rover have a strict protocol users must follow
But for the vehicles I've used
I've used only 20w 50
And it has served me well
I use a Kia, Toyota and Peugeot
I've seen vehicles that cost more than 30m using 20w 50
So what are you saying?
Follow manufacturer advice ...if you use good quality oil especially 5w30 which of course is a multi grade than its a goal .. 20w50 is not in my vocabulary... if it works well than good for u .. Me using 20w50 oil is like Malcolm X catching jungle fever
Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 12:06am On Sep 10, 2019
2felix:
Thanks
Bt d parts for new generation xc90 re they cheap and available as d parts of d 04-06 model
Really not too sure about availability of parts.. But if I like it enough, parts will be the least of my concern..
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 12:02am On Sep 10, 2019
thebigkendo:
Did you see the part about synthetic?
Not really.. Mobil 1 5w20 extended performace is a goal for my Honda cars....full synthetic baby... my engines are well protected...
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 11:56pm On Sep 09, 2019
ascendo:
Since you import, I'll take the stress and risk away from you so that you face your business squarely.
Thanks, but No thanks...... And who said anything about stress ? Am doing just ok by me ....plus I have loyal customers that demand the best in quality and price... you can't beat my price and I don't want quality compromise.... Kindly stick to selling your 20w50 oyel ......
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 9:53pm On Sep 09, 2019
thebigkendo:
Nairaland oil sellers association will not be happy with this your post oh.. grin grin

With the 5w grade, my engine is quieter though..

I believe one will be fine using 20w-50 with 3 months/3k miles oil change interval..


The last part about synthetic oil is for dru baba.. the chief oil seller on nairaland grin grin
I dey use 5w20 for my Honda all year round o..
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 9:52pm On Sep 09, 2019
thebigkendo:
According to dru, the oil expert grin
Yankee we use Miles..instead of Km For weight we use Ibs(pounds) Yankee is no longer control by the British Empire.. Anything British we reject....
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 9:49pm On Sep 09, 2019
ascendo:
For engine manufactured from 2008 to 2012, part synthetic is better ie like 10W40...but from 2013 upwards...its strictly synthetic ie 0W20, 5W30, 5W40...

I can help you get all these if need be..
So you want to sell water to a well?
Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 9:47pm On Sep 09, 2019
sultaan:
I hope your Volvo was not on that ship that just rolled over off Georgia coastline

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/cargo-ship-georgia-crew-members-stuck-engine-room.amp
Lol... thanks bro for the concern ..I just drop it off the port ..it was busy day.. I didnt get chance to test the DVD player in the car properly... but it seems to work ...the car is a beast on the road ...highly impressed with the volvo...

Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 9:44pm On Sep 09, 2019
EgunMogaji2:
You raised some valid points.

In the USA it’ll take me only 5 minutes before I hit the freeway on-ramp and put pedal to the metal.

Here in Nigeria it takes me a good 30 minutes before I can get to any semblance of high speed.

I use 20W50 in my 4Runner and Kurupe and they are both loving it.
Me I can never use it at all ....never ......ever .....ever...
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 5:24pm On Sep 09, 2019
Smartchoiice:
So we should believe you without experience?
You don't have to .... All I know is that when I started doing uber, most of my cars were damaged by oil sold for Nigeria market. I had to sell all my uber cars o... And I started importing my own oyel for personal use.. Than my fellow uber partners had similar issues that I had .. One thing lead to another I started selling them ...but again if you have been using 20w50 oil or whatever u are using . Please continue using it ...the 5w30 that I import will not fix any damages.. The right oil grade is to protect and prolong your engine...
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 5:11pm On Sep 09, 2019
mejai:
All this oil talk sef, local man is fed up. If one has been using 5W30 and issue of oil burning starts(coro and the gang), without any visible leaks, do you suggest one continues with 5w30? Which , of course, a litre costs almost 3500.

You claim to run 12k miles on mobil and Toyota coro encourages to top oil after 1000km, how much oil should local man then use to top up?

Don't you think 20w50 with OCI at 3000-5000km is reasonable? With occasional top up?
Local man cannot can sef.... Explain dru23
My brother my only advice is to follow manufacturer advice and use the recommended oil.. .. The only time I used 20w50 or any thing 20w was when my old uber car was shorting oil .. I use the oil till the engine was bringing out or types of smoke ...
And also if you have been using 20w oyel for long and you want switch to manufacturer's recommendation ,my advice is don't switch o .. Just continue using the 20w oye, but if your car na tokunbo or you have been using the rite oye, I will continue using the rite oyel.... I will not for sure use oil 20w for any latest model car at all .. Those engines can cost a fortune to replace .. At the end of the day each to his own.....also 5w30 is multi grade oil.. It will do fine in cold or hot weather ..just make sure u oil meets API and other USA specifications ...
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 2:59pm On Sep 09, 2019
mammanbawa:
Experience is the best teacher
Over the years I've used numerous cars from different brands and none of them has failed me or the subsequent owners
Ikenna351 can bear witness to how good the 20w 50 is on his pug
Obviously you and ikenna351 know a lot better than the manufacture. Maybe you guys should start building your own engine..


PS.. Imaging somebody giving out there 2015 range rover for you to help do oil change... so 20w50 u go use for a 30million naira car....?
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 2:52pm On Sep 09, 2019
ascendo:
Stop saying what you dont know. There has never been any car produced that is "Nigerian Spec". When you buy a Canadian Spec, the lube specified on the manual has considered the temperature of the region where the car will be used. 5W30 or 0W20 are light oil whose pour point(the temperature at which oil ceases to flow) are very very low hence the lubricant is still effective even at -5 degrees C. For Nigerian Climate which is mostly hot, 20W50 seems to be the best lube you can use on older model cars produced earlier than 2008 because of the following:
1. Most times, they dont dry up unless there is leakage
2. Their sealing properties are high
3. Also, though they have high pour points, Nigeria doesnt lie close to the temperate zones.

But make sure the API classification of the engine oil you are using matches with the recommended value. There are C (for diesel engines CD, CF, etc) and S (for gasoline engines SF, SD, SJ, SL, SN etc, ).
At the end of the day my brother... my point is for people to follow and read the owners manual at all times.. If you are using 20w50 instead of 5w30 ,you are causing more damage to your cars... 5w30 is a multi grade oil ,meaning good for hot and cold climates.... Your engine are design to accommodate certain levels of thickness.. Meaning if your engine is designed to 5w30, 10w20 etc u now go and part 20w50 which is the most thickness , you end damaging ur engine... that much thickness will not flow properly ...it will seems as if it's been force ..
On the other end if you are using engine that is not thick enough by the manufacture .. Your engine will not get enough lubricant to grease the engine.. You end killing the pistons and other engine components... when engines are made ,they are made to take certain oil grade and weight.. That is the reason u need to read owners manual..
Car Talk › Re: ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op): 2:24pm On Sep 09, 2019
mammanbawa:
I've used 20w 50 total quartz 5000 since I started driving and none of my engines has failed cos of that
Just because somebody looks healthy does not mean they are.. Trust the engineers that makes your vehicle and follow owners manual at all times ... they know better than us ...
Car Talk › ......20w50 Oil Does More Harm To Your Engine if it is not needed ... by dru23(op):
I just talked about using 5w30 engine oil on my previous post .. I tell folks out there all the time follow the owners manual when changing oil..... Using 20w50 oil causes more damage to your car .... 5w30 engine oil is suitable for both hot and cold climate .. Follow your owners manual at all times to prevent engine failures ...

Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 1:55pm On Sep 09, 2019
franksam2009:
5w-30 is designed for winter(weather below -1°c) , in winter time Texas go below -20°c(snow) which will freeze most engine oil, stress engine and cause poor emissions, while here in Lagos the lower hv seen is 20°c, even 50w-70 will flow freely at 20°c grin( the lower it gets the chiller it becomes nd when it gets to -0°c it starts to snow)
The 5w means at freezing point it will get to all engine parts in 5seconds, while the 20w will take 20seconds, but we dont hv such freezing weather here in Nigeria so they all flow fast anytime. So i think 5w should not be used on a taxi/Uber car cause the car is always on a motion and hardly sits for long
The only problem with 20w is that if not changed on time it will cause slug buildup, but for the 5w if it's to be used it Should be an original synthetic(mobile,Castro e.t.c),
Next is oil shortage, this is cause by either bad piston rings(delay in oil change or overheated) or worn out seals(which will eventually occur on all engine as they age), this doesn't necessary mean d engine is dead, as long as it's not smoking, oil stop leak can solve this problem (it swells all seals bck to normal shape).

Den oil filter issue, oil filters are not transparent so even the manufacturers cannot tell what's going on in there, those 10-15k oil filters are marketing strategies, they never last that long, most oil filters hv this inbuilt bypass technology built in them that once they gets clogged up, d oil bypasses and flow directly into d engine which might eventually cause premature wear to the metal bearings,
Even the almighty shining Fram filter was cut open and compared to other high quality filters on YouTube grin, Fram was so bad that its paper breaks when touched lol.
Do ur research be4 u argue bro, most of the cars made in Asia and south America do not hv this 5w written on them, some Don't even write anything on their oil covers, hv seen an Asian made BMW with 10w-30 written on its oil cap.

Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 1:48pm On Sep 09, 2019
franksam2009:
5w-30 is designed for winter(weather below -1°c) , in winter time Texas go below -20°c(snow) which will freeze most engine oil, stress engine and cause poor emissions, while here in Lagos the lower hv seen is 20°c, even 50w-70 will flow freely at 20°c grin( the lower it gets the chiller it becomes nd when it gets to -0°c it starts to snow)
The 5w means at freezing point it will get to all engine parts in 5seconds, while the 20w will take 20seconds, but we dont hv such freezing weather here in Nigeria so they all flow fast anytime. So i think 5w should not be used on a taxi/Uber car cause the car is always on a motion and hardly sits for long
The only problem with 20w is that if not changed on time it will cause slug buildup, but for the 5w if it's to be used it Should be an original synthetic(mobile,Castro e.t.c),
Next is oil shortage, this is cause by either bad piston rings(delay in oil change or overheated) or worn out seals(which will eventually occur on all engine as they age), this doesn't necessary mean d engine is dead, as long as it's not smoking, oil stop leak can solve this problem (it swells all seals bck to normal shape).

Den oil filter issue, oil filters are not transparent so even the manufacturers cannot tell what's going on in there, those 10-15k oil filters are marketing strategies, they never last that long, most oil filters hv this inbuilt bypass technology built in them that once they gets clogged up, d oil bypasses and flow directly into d engine which might eventually cause premature wear to the metal bearings,
Even the almighty shining Fram filter was cut open and compared to other high quality filters on YouTube grin, Fram was so bad that its paper breaks when touched lol.
Do ur research be4 u argue bro, most of the cars made in Asia and south America do not hv this 5w written on them, some Don't even write anything on their oil covers, hv seen an Asian made BMW with 10w-30 written on its oil cap.

Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 1:18pm On Sep 09, 2019
2felix:
Thanks
But can the 04-06 5 cylinder be compared with v6 highlander toyota mpg
That am not too sure on .. But I know the xc90 might be a bit heavier than the highlander .. Either way they are both good cars. And I would prefer the new generation volvo to the highlander.. Am not too crazy about the highlander designs at all.
Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 1:14pm On Sep 09, 2019
valarinz:
Yamaha
I said I think Mitsubishi.... Either way na Japanese engine.. Japanese engines very rarely disappoint
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m):
franksam2009:
5w-30 is designed for winter(weather below -1°c) , in winter time Texas go below -20°c(snow) which will freeze most engine oil, stress engine and cause poor emissions, while here in Lagos the lower hv seen is 20°c, even 50w-70 will flow freely at 20°c grin( the lower it gets the chiller it becomes nd when it gets to -0°c it starts to snow)
The 5w means at freezing point it will get to all engine parts in 5seconds, while the 20w will take 20seconds, but we dont hv such freezing weather here in Nigeria so they all flow fast anytime. So i think 5w should not be used on a taxi/Uber car cause the car is always on a motion and hardly sits for long
The only problem with 20w is that if not changed on time it will cause slug buildup, but for the 5w if it's to be used it Should be an original synthetic(mobile,Castro e.t.c),
Next is oil shortage, this is cause by either bad piston rings(delay in oil change or overheated) or worn out seals(which will eventually occur on all engine as they age), this doesn't necessary mean d engine is dead, as long as it's not smoking, oil stop leak can solve this problem (it swells all seals bck to normal shape).

Den oil filter issue, oil filters are not transparent so even the manufacturers cannot tell what's going on in there, those 10-15k oil filters are marketing strategies, they never last that long, most oil filters hv this inbuilt bypass technology built in them that once they gets clogged up, d oil bypasses and flow directly into d engine which might eventually cause premature wear to the metal bearings,
Even the almighty shining Fram filter was cut open and compared to other high quality filters on YouTube grin, Fram was so bad that its paper breaks when touched lol.
Do ur research be4 u argue bro, most of the cars made in Asia and south America do not hv this 5w written on them, some Don't even write anything on their oil covers, hv seen an Asian made BMW with 10w-30 written on its oil cap.
American foreign spec cars are built differently from European and Asian counterpart... cars that come into the USA market are built according to the USA terrain, whether hot or cold o .. U can't compare Toyota built in South African or European to USA spec. The USA spec will more than likely to have better option and built better. The same goes for Benz ,I would rather Buy Benz Germany than the USA.. Germany Benz are built in Germany, while the USA there are assembled.. Since the are assembled they are prone to a lot if recalls, due to the fact that the parts are imported from different parts of the country... Dana Motors Elantra are not as strong as the USA.brand.. Japanese built Corolla will have a better engine than the American ones..

Your oil augment: most cars in Nigerian are USA spec cars. Some states in the USA are much hotter than Nigeria. If you buy good quality oil whether nay cold start or hot weather start .. The additives in the oil will still protect the engine either way. No matter what bra people should always follow the owners manual when it comes to oil grade.. The manufacturer knows better than us and they are more liable to get sue for any major defects.. The 20w50 oil u mention I have never seen that type of oil in my life .. And I have been selling engine oil for three years. How u nigerians came up with the 20w50 surprises me.. Maybe its European grade oil ,but one thing for sure I have never seen 20w50 in the USA .....

Oil filters...... I mention early about how some filters are design for fleet company and cabs.. Some are tested to last 10k miles and some are tested for 15k miles. Mobil 1 oil filter are good for 15k miles oil change. Fram has their and Stp has their own .. It will say on the filter that they are good for 15k miles .. These filters are spefics and it will say on it .. You just don't buy any fram or Stp and automatically assume they are good for 15k miles without reading it first ..... Going by review online some fram filter and sTP filters don't perform like others .. So I stick to their high end fram and stp .... ........
Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 11:18am On Sep 09, 2019
valarinz:
No vex, was only assuming based on your comment below


Also note that the V8 is quite popular in naija and a lot of enthusiasts can die for the ride
Well V8 engine should be strong .....it's a Japanese engine . I think Mitsubishi to be precise...
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 11:08am On Sep 09, 2019
deedee44:
Bros this is the 1 millionth time you're saying this grin we haff hear cheesy

Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 11:01am On Sep 09, 2019
valarinz:
The XC90 V8 engine is the least problematic of all the engine types, its not even a volvo engine, was made by yamaha.

Your mechanic is a quack if he couldn't handle ordinary V8, means the T5 will send him back to the village.

Anyways, like u said, find the right mechanic and you'll be fine, sadly you haven't found one either
Did I mention I need a mechanic?

Car Talk › Re: ..... Volvo xc90 the most Underrated SUV ever..... by dru23(op): 11:01am On Sep 09, 2019
2felix:
Like which one have good mpgs?
From 04 to 06 have 5cyclinder ..those are pretty ok mpg. These cars are bit heavy, so I don't know what people are expecting. Abi ney Corolla mpgs dey want on a SUV?
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 1:24am On Sep 09, 2019
franksam2009:
20w-30 oil serviced at 3k miles is far more better than 5w-30 serviced at 12k miles(it's impossible 4 an oil filter 2 even last this long)
My brother better to follow car manufacturers oil grade o .. I never knew 20w-30 existed until I came to nairaland... please dont come up excuse that Nigeria weather is hot and that is why 20w-30 is accepted o . Because Texas, Arizona and especially Las Vegas are hotter than Nigeria o ...Cars and engine oil are formulated to meet the USA driving conditions ... Corolla built in South Africa or European are completely different from their counter parts in the USA.. So kindly follow manufacturer advice on oil cap ....

Now oil filter topic.... Cabs that or fleets that ply the USA road 24/7. What filters are they using? Most are capable of 3k miles month or less. Don't you think they will use better filters that will give them longer oil change and filter interval ? Filters really matter bro and some are ok and some are excellent.

Ps . Have been selling oil filters that give up to 15k oil interval for three years plus ... And none of my customers has ever complain to me. Now depending on driving conditions ,I wouldn't do pass 12k miles on Mobil 1 extended performance and 15k miles oil filter.... If drive mainly on high way road ,I might do the both 15k miles oil change and 15k miles oil filter. But since I have my cars on uber with heavy dust and traffic . And stop and go I will do only 12k miles on oil and filter...
Business › Re: If You Are Uber Partner In Lagos, Please Share Your Experience Here by dru23(m): 12:43am On Sep 09, 2019
oblozzolawrence:
Senior men in the house abeg make una epp a guyman out...
I don try save up reach 800k and i won drop my aunty car cos the car dey give me too much wahala.(consume alot fuel + short oil issues).na evil spirit honda accord.
Anyways im really confused as to what car to buy, would really love to enter coro lane(corolla car) bt my money no reach.

My frend is advising me to buy one honda civic 2006 model wey somebody won sell but i also saw a very clean VW passat 2006 model fsi turbo, owner claims he bought it last year tokunbo, still very sharp.

Im kinda confuse rite now as i nid a car wit a very low fuel consumption(car wey no dey chop fuel too much) and car wey d spare part full everywhere.

Pls advise or state any car that has that spec within my aforementioned amount (800k).

Na me myself and i go dey drive em ooo!!!! Dey use em hustle.
If you can rise around 1.3m ,buy a tokunbo 04 to 05 civic ...since you are the owner, you will enjoy it and save money on fuel. Do regular oil change with full synethic.... Take care of it and it will serve you well...

Ps. My civic is driven by a lady on the uber platform... she loves it and she tells me the car the swim for water during raining season...

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