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Righthussle:
Religion is one hundred percent man made, it was made specifically to control the minds of the poor in the society and to give them fake hope.

Religion is not man made. It is Power!

And men were given power to do good (or evil).

So blame men who have wrongfully used their power.

Legal belongs to men and it will fail you. Unfortunately, they agreed to men removing The Law as they taught legal. So, o y o

Who cares?

Trustedpronet:
Better evil than gboko haram, bandith, kidnapper or ritualist. But if I found my daughter doing this for a living I will surely disown her even right in my grave. What is bad is bad.

Is this not contradictory?

The law maker is always above the law which he makes

https://www.nairaland.com/7019584/lawyers-every-body-not-deceit/1#110948568

Legal on the move.

https://www.nairaland.com/7423830/efcc-chair-bawa-reacts-after#118233987

The lawmaker is always above the law which he makes.

https://www.nairaland.com/7424055/fg-writes-governors-plan-mass

The lawmaker can do and undo, as he pleases

It is very annoying when stupid people speak and they think they have spoken intelligently.

Ternistacle:
Is Christianity a man-made religion?...

Even in the cars and phones and laptops man made there are so many conflicts and theories.

In the family and the society as even proven by the election coming up, there is confilct.

Even in choosing school, work, wife, good and bad, there is conflict and many theories.

And who does not know this?

Coupled with your not understanding how Christianity operates. It is better you had not spoken than to disclose stupidity.

Wilgrea7:
I'm not evading anything. You're the one trying to subject me to a false dichotomy.

False dichotomy means untrue dichotomy! And this is a True dichotomy, nothing untrue in it, and you participated in setting it up. And in your set up, you represented that God, The Person may not be the only Source of Creating a thing where which I have been asking you to provide the second or third valid alternative, and we see you coughing and choking and dodging, instead of providing the alternative you said is there.

So, since you said that there is another alternative apart from The Person whom we call God, present it.

Wilgrea7:
Like i said earlier, we have to be careful with words. Personhood as we know it, is something used to define humans.

We know all know Persons, so stop evading and dodging, present a valid alternative and contestant to God being the Person Who created our House called earth

Wilgrea7:
Tempting, but I'm not about to start arguing with you about what a false or true dichotomy means in relation to “rights"

Present a valid alternative and contestant to God being the Person Who created our House called earth

Wilgrea7:
Here's the problem with this quote you're trying to misuse. ..

Stop evading and dodging your burden, Present a valid alternative and contestant to God being the Person Who created our House called earth.

AuthenticKing:
As I predicted, you would never accept that your argument is heavily flawed so why should I expend my energy in arguing further with you?
Abeg, I don tire mbok.

As you already see, you are not the one who determines what is a flaw, it is The Law which determines it and I know Law more than you.

And The Law says you can not conplain when you have no locus standi.

Wilgrea7:
..So in that case, what gives you the impression that the creator must be a person? As far as we know, personhood is something we ascribe to humans.

You are still evading and attempting to raise up a new issue which is a Deviation from Post.

We all know what a Person is. This is beyond controversy or dispute.

So, it is either you present a valid alternative and contestant to God being the Person Who created our House called earth or we all know that you live in self deceits and delusion.

Wilgrea7:
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Also, your quote doesn't really help you much here, because you're trying to push a false dichotomy...

It is not a false dichotomy but a true dichotomy in which the quote is still respecting your right (which false dichotomy does not respect) to freely and bring any valid alternative.

Thus, the burden is on you to bring a valid alternative, if you can.

Therefore, keep looking at Arthur Conan Doyle as you decide whether you would keep living in the deceit of yourself or accept the Truth for we all know that there is no alternative Only The Person Whom we call God. But, we'll await your decision whether self deceit or Acceptance of the only Standing Truth.

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbe-able, must be the truth."

Wilgrea7:
Like i said, I'm trying to be careful with words here, because of our current understanding of what it means to be a person.

So let me ask you this. Is every living thing a person? Is a dog, or a cat, or a dolphin a person?

Change of Post! We all know what A Person is and there is no confusion or dispute that animals are not persons

So, back to you supplying a valid contender and alternative to God being the Person Who created our House called earth, if you can.

Thus, I'll wait for you while letting you look at Arthur Conan Doyle

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbe-able, must be the truth."

Wilgrea7:
And Wilgrea7 has told you, that a party's right to defend itself here is irrelevant, because this is clearly not about that.

Which is why I told you "change of Post".

Wilgrea7:
There is absolutely no evidence that the earth was created by “a person".

See yourself now! Yet you wanted me to proceed even when you would not be following.

Your "There is absolutely no evidence that the earth was created by “a person" already falls because,

1. You have confessed and admitted the Truth that a non living thing cannot create.

2. And a Person is a living thing, therefore, He is very much in the game o
"Who" created the earth and you have eliminated the "whats".

Thus, I'll wait for you to supply a valid contender, if you can, which I know you cannot, while letting you look at Arthur Conan Doyle

"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbe-able, must be the truth."

AuthenticKing:
Why are you bringing law courts into this?

Everything and every act done or not done is under Law. You are here speaking coherently and reasonably because of The Law of good and decent conversation.

Everything is under Law and where there is dispute, they all end in Court.

AuthenticKing:
I don't want to go any further with you but I would just summarize what Wilgrea7 is explaining to you that you've (and will still) fail to accept, your comment can be used to defend other religious books too since suing them for copying from other books won't make sense. If your grounds for objecting to my statement about your book is based on 'locus standi', then the Quran, Jewish Tanakh, the Veda, etc are all correct about their claims about the origin of the universe!

As I told wilgrea7, "Each group (a party accused) have a right to defend themselves on their own force and merit.

Wilgrea7:
I believe i have answered your question as clearly as i can. As far as we currently know, consciousness is associated with living beings, so if we accept consciousness as a part of the creation process, then yes, non-living things cannot create things.

But for the sake of your specific request and this discussion, I will explicitly spell it out.

A non-living thing cannot create the earth. Please proceed with bridging the gap between a creator and your creator.

Still not satisfactory. You have only clearly admitted that a non living thing cannot create. So that one is no longer in contention.

But you have not directly admitted that "the earth is created by a Person" for the other time I accepted your implied answer and you went on to deny your implied answer. So this time, you are going to have to be as clear as daylight without any doubt or controversy.

MaxInDHouse:
That's their way out when they enter one chance and don't know the way forward!

Rapture is not a spaceship!

mekaw:
It's right for Christians to go to Muslim hell fire for not believing in Islam and the prophet while the Muslim go to Christian hell fire for not believing in Jesus as the saviour while the Jews I don't know. Religion is bullshit and crap

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Is this not madness? You are saying it is right for an armed robber to go to a judge's prison and the judge to go to an armed robbers prison. Does this make sense?

libertyfather:
Let not talk on what we don't know for real, but sincerely how come bad people are really making it big in this life?

It's another trap of destruction! They are still crying and dying there.

TenQ:
I hated the legal profession when a lawyer friend defended a Rapist against this young girl. He won the case by using technicalities and worst still, he was boasting about it. His claim was that it wasn't his fault that the girl didn't get justice because the prosecutor should have done his homework well.

For me, it was the issue of TRUTH but apparently, not everyone care for the TRUTH!

I hope LegalWolf is NOT a person that would sacrifice the truth to win an argument.

In fulfilment of Daniel 7:25 in school they do not teach Law, they teach Legal. And legal is about man usurping the jurisdiction of The Law, which God made to govern all men

So legal is about men having unlawfully appropriated law making to themselves, therefore they make something looks like law (but it is not) and teaching everyone who wants to learn Law to follow that way.

Hence, in school, it is "Legal Method" that they are taught not "Law method" as we wanted to learn.

And Legal is not interested in Truth and "Just is" which is what The Law is always interested in.

Legal is about removing men from God by making them fall into the Curse of God.

Jeremiah 17:5
This is what the LORD says: "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD. He will be like a bush in the wastelands; he will not see prosperity when it comes. He will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives.

And legal has achieved this by making men put their trusts in government rather than in God.

Which is why there is so much injustice I
legal. it is in legal that you would see that a stranger take away your car because you took one way or that you should not kill a robber who invades your house or that rapist escapes because of "technicality"

NNTR:
Luke 11:45-52
46 And he said, “Woe to you lawyers also!

Were you counting the number of woes? Jesus is the only authentic SAN

Bet you did not know Moses was a Lawyer, David too and Paul whom you cited out of context, so these are condemned by The Lord, Jesus, Himself a Lawyer, because they are lawyers?

Even when you see the grounds of condemnation in the Luke you posted, you still did not see nor understand, exactly as you failed to understand Paul's writings.

NNTR:
Luke 11:45-52]
Yu're arguing with yourself, as I never advanced that the law isnt in operation

You said it by implication.

TenQ:
I hated the legal profession when a lawyer friend defended a Rapist against this young girl. He won the case by using technicalities and worst still, he was boasting about it. His claim was that it wasn't his fault that the girl didn't get justice because the prosecutor should have done his homework well.

For me, it was the issue of TRUTH but apparently, not everyone care for the TRUTH!..

In fulfilment of Daniel 7:25 in school they do not teach Law, they teach Legal. And legal is about man usurping the jurisdiction of The Law, which God made to govern all men

So legal is about men having unlawfully appropriated law making to themselves, therefore they make something looks like law (but it is not) and teaching everyone who wants to learn Law to follow that way.

Hence, in school, it is "Legal Method" that they are taught not "Law method" as we wanted to learn.

And Legal is not interested in Truth and "Just is" which is what The Law is always interested in.

Legal is about removing men from God by making them fall into the Curse of God.

Jeremiah 17:5
This is what the LORD says: "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD. He will be like a bush in the wastelands; he will not see prosperity when it comes. He will dwell in the parched places of the desert, in a salt land where no one lives.

And legal has achieved this by making men put their trusts in government rather than in God.

Which is why there is so much injustice I
legal. it is in legal that you would see that a stranger take away your car because you took one way or that you should not kill a robber who invades your house or that rapist escapes because of "technicality"

https://www.nairaland.com/7019584/lawyers-every-body-not-deceit#110843107

I even invited legallers to come defend it and they ran away.

AFONAMARO:
Fold your hands and wait for God to come down to find your pair, you didn't see where He said, he that finds a wife (not he that He finds a wife for)?

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What do you think people did which is why they choose bear parlour and office over their wives and having women (slay mama) who will kill them as extra load in their horrible and bad/broken marriages?

And you wonder why there are too many broken relationships and over broken marriages

Before you were even born God gave me my pair and with excess joy we are now more than 20 years pleasantly paired.

A wise man knoweth to seek the face of The Lord find his pair for he knoweth The Law that "He created them male and female".

MindHacker9009:
Calling yourself mad shows you are trully following a New Testament invented by the Romans

See how mad you are that you do not even know that people can see that you edited my post. You mad well well.

gabemuyi:
The term God the source of the cosmos can not have an enemy because all thing emernates from him. Both good and evil what many ppl call God especially in the old testament are Elohims. Fighting for territory.

If your car, phone or mannequin does not do your will would it not be your enemy and qualified for destruction?