₦airaland Forum

Myer:
1. Spirituality:
Spirituality involves the recognition of a feeling or sense or belief that there is something greater than myself, something more to being human than sensory experience, and that the greater whole of which we are part is cosmic or divine in nature. (Ref Dr. Maya Spencer)

ThePlainTruth:
God is our Examiner, the Bible is our Textbook and the world is the examination. Ummm! Makes a lot of sense now.

But now what's GOD's pass mark? 100%, 90%, 80%, 70%, 60%, 50% or 40% over the Bible gurus in the house

Myer:
What is Freewill?
In robotic terms, it is simply what robots do not have and man has.

Freewill is what separates a human being from a mindless creature which simply obeys the command or purpose for which it was designed.

Myer:
A human being with freewill has a mind of theirs and can choose between choices and make their own decisions.

Myer:
This poses a couple of question for religion- especially Christoanity.

As Deuteronomy 30:15-20 says, God placed the choice between life and death on man.

Myer:
Lets us break this down comprehensicely;

1. God created Life and Death.

Myer:
2. He has given man the "freewill" to choose between life and death.

Myer:
3. The bible says God has predestined those who will have life and those who will have death.

Myer:
4. God says he hated Esau but loved Jacob without any fault or choice of Esau.

Myer:
5. But the condition for eternal life is to believe in Jesus, repent and confess your sins and ask for forgiveness.

Questions:
Can it be called freewill if the option of who gets life or death is already predestined?

Myer:
Can it really be called freewill when everyone who doesnt do God's will according to the bible is doomed for hell.


If it is truly freewill then it is not a matter of heaven or hell but choosing to obey God without consequences of not obeying him.
If it is truly freewill, there should not be conditions attached. Otherwise, the obvious reality is bound to play out

.

Myer:
People are forced to exercise their freewill to make the safer decision of not going to hell out of fear of burning in hell for eternity.

People are compelled to pretend until the get what they desire.

Any determined person can choose to be pious for a while if it guarantees heaven. Which is why often times after all the piety and righteousness some stop having faith due to lact of results

Myer:
Eventually, the reality becomes that there is actually no freewill if choosing my will takes me to hell unless I choose God's will.

LordReed:
Always coming up? It never came up in the OT aside from when it was pronounced and only once in the NT so what always are you talking about?

truespeak:
You took the words right out of my mouth!

12rev:
If there was no eden in reality there was no adam or eve or forbidden fruit.

12rev:
Again its more of an allegory than reality. There should be no question of "what if adam didnt..."

ThePlainTruth:
The crucifixion was in public but why was the resurrection not made Public

Cabble4:
" Goodness!!! I can't see any confusion here". If the Fruit was "" Forbidden "", then even listening to God's word and believing it is also forbidden.
If I did deviate again, please be so kind to enlighten Me if it's not too much to ask.

LordReed:
Every time where, in your dreams?

12rev:
Its about "adam" and "eve" right?

Cabble4:
Another error. Do you call "A Choice Handed to you" a forbidden?, ..

Karlovych:
There is no attack in any of my statements,...

12rev:
What of animals? Do they fall sick and die? Do they suffer hunger also? Anyway through Genesis 1 properly, youl realise it is...for instance check Gen 1:3-5 and compare with Gen 1:14-19. The sun, moon etc were created on the 4th day, what light was created on the first day in verse 3-5? How does a day exist without the sun? What was morning, evening, night before the 4th day? Again in Gen 3:23-24 man was driven from the garden of Eden, andGod put an angel to guard the tree of life...where exactly is this? Or did God uproot the tree of life from earth?... Its all a metaphor actually.

LordReed:
Disobedience to what? Np where states not to have more than one wife or not to take concubines. In fact they were allowed to take sex slaves.

LordReed:
Irrelevant. The number is not in question.

LordReed:
Nor is there any place that forbids a man from taking a concubine.

Hanibbal:
Now my question is if Adam and eve did not disobey death won't have entered from the beginning. That means if people don't die the population of this world would keep increasing. Is overcrowding not the effect of this? What about earth's resources can it cater for like hundreds of billions of people living on earth?...

HONESTFACT101:
Then there daughter will still eat it....signing out✈

12rev:
What if adam and eve story is only a metaphor

Redomi:
We wont be using computers and phones

LordReed:
LMAO! SMH

awitness41:
Yes, excellent DT !

Sin is the transgression of the Law.

That answers question #3 above, thank you.
Questions 1 and 2 are surely connected somehow...

I have to go now, but in the meantime I remember saying you were now reading the Bible, with the intention of reading it all the way through.
May I humbly make a suggestion... or maybe it's actually a reminder of support in that endeavor ?
If one starts with the Gospels of Jesus Christ in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and, John, and reads them on endless reel for life (at least 3 chapters a week, or more),

LordReed:
After Abraham took Hagar as concubine god still talked to him so what you are saying does not hold up.

Karlovych:
Where did I attack you?

Karlovych:
...holy people like you that wish evil on others are still people filled up in those places and your nation is not progressing. You will still have your bath, carry your bible to go and sing, dance inside your church after wishing someone evil...

Karlovych:
You had the option of ignoring my comment or making a general statement like "may Yahweh have mercy on me" amongst other options

LordReed:
You have. You wrote that god no longer talked to Abraham, that for you was Abraham destroyed.

awitness41:
So how do you type into this post ?
No matter, look at 1 John 3.
What version of the Bible do you use ?

awitness41:
Do you have Bible search feature on your computing device?
There is definitely a Bible definition of sin starting with "sin is..."
C'mon DT. You can do it !

Karlovych:
Keep exposing yourself, like I said you modern Nigerian Christians will always show your true nature and contents of your heart all the time, it's no wonder despite all the churches littered across every street in the country, holy people like you that wish evil on others.

oracle009:
Ha! Where you get all these your etymology nitori Ọlọ́run? Off-Fence ko, off-road ni

awitness41:
My friend DT, please find a passage in the Bible that actually defines what sin is exactly, such as "sin is ...".
Then we will know exactly what the Bible says sin is.

LordReed:
So now you've changed the meaning of destroyed.

Judah slept with his daughter in law thinking she was a harlot, yet he wasn't destroyed.

Karlovych:
As usual, I pointed out your hypocrisy and true character and you are shifting the goalpost, I wished no one evil in my comment but like a child of Yahweh that you are your response is "evil will follow you and marry you". You modern Christians will continue to expose yourself, even your apostles never behaved in this manner