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Omooba77:
How Can I know When God has left me?

Belafonte:
I was going to oppose this but you have a point.

While the OP does a good job articulating his observation, I'd say he's looking from the micro point of view

jesusjnr2020:
...It's obvious why you'd rather settle for such
than the Law of Christ which is much harder to observe.

Splinz:
Obviously, what the Law forbids is the delight of his soul. Jesusjnr2020 loves those things.

I find it quite funny that a thread of this kind is coming from someone who does not even know what the Mosaic law is, for a start. And here he is, speaking of supposed differences between that law and that of Christ. Apparently, he also thinks Christ came bringing with Him new laws.

What an irony.

QuinModah:
Maslow theory comes to mind

kimco:
I am shocked...but not surprised. So I leave you to that.

kimco:
Which society [allows a master to beat a servant to the point of near death and is okay with it so far as the servant doesnt die?

kimco:
1. You keep claiming the bible is from God...because of that your follow up claim is that the bible makes the best moral laws (because its from God)

2.Ah my brother, are you confused? Using your earlier post among others I asked you how you know the laws in the bible are from God? Now see what you are saying... Unless you now want to say the bible is not from God?!!!

kimco:
Which law is God's law? List them.

kimco:
List the natural laws...after that proof that natural laws come from God. But first, proof God.

kimco:
You have to make good laws, and good executions ...and with your own power, elect good leaders. If for bad leaders you dont think you should make good laws and executions....well...Did you say you were lawyer? Is Nigeria safe?

kimco:
Bro you are very confused. This is very painful to read. You are far from what i expect from a lawyer... When did God establish these courts judges and lawyers? I mean why, why would you say this as a learned person? Leave that talk to the clerics. Stop this...you flip flop a looot too.

kimco:
You denied this when i raised this point...ehbei abrantie...now in all full glory look at this. Bro hmmm.

johnydon22:
What observations have you made about atheists that informs your claim?

johnydon22:
What observations have you made about me that informs your claim?

Point out these relevant examples. It will be nice to hear.

johnydon22:
oga repent. Stop wishing ill on people. Jesus would not do that.

Workch:
If there’s evidence for God, no one will debate it. It’s debatable because there is no evidence.

No one debate the maker of Toyota Corolla because there’s evidence. It’s a fallacy of appealing to authority to believe you just because you are philosopher.

You need to provide evidence irrespective of your status

Bishopkingsley:
they came from China.

This place got me laughing so hard you are too funny

Hammyaladin:
Are you sure?!
Aside searching for job and what not, knowledge shapes and present a person in a different light!

You know, sometimes not everything is about money!

iamclime:
You don travel for Badagry road? Make I no talk.

Phiniter:
trash

Workch:
Its no longer funny but you sense of reasoning is laughable. Seriously, I am surprised that a human can have such low intelligent quotient.

kimco:
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2. Stoning a stubborn child to death and slavery are not good morals.

kimco:
You cannot prove that God wrote the bible therefore its not God's law.

kimco:
And saying the laws i have attributed to man is by God is just being extremely silly. Seriously. Men made those laws in said institutions, God was not physically present in the cabinet meetings.

kimco:
5. Good laws are not tethered to good leadership.

kimco:
6. But let's say you want the laws of the bible to rule the country...how would you want to punishment system to be? Do we wait on the lord or we wait til hell fire?

Techguy96:
Lol, so what about houses, If I build a house, I can't enter inside the house because I created the house.
How dumb can you be with ur argument.

So according to you, it's possible for things to just start existing so long there are not in OR on this world.

U have not made any reasonable logical argument, ur argument holds no water.

Lessonteacher:
so what you are actually saying is that it wasn't clear if obeying God's law brought the best life, before the Satan, became Satan, to deceive human first parents?

leofab:
this is like convincing a crawling child that walking is better... you are still in your crawling stage...

awitness41:
There is no "jurisdiction" for reading and knowing what the Bible says, my friend.
If the Bible tells us what happened in Heaven prior to man, we are allowed to know it.

I said nothing untrue, for the Bible indeed provides Verses to show:
-- God and Jesus were in the beginning.
-- Angels were created before man.
-- Angels were given free will and the ability to communicate.

The rest is obvious to anyone: a free-will being having a moral choice about anything - like telling someone a lie or telling them the Truth - can choose to keep God's Law or not. In other words, to do right or wrong according to God's Standard of Righteousness.

Many people, including myself, could provide you the Bible Verses which prove the above "--" statements..
But I'll leave that to you, my friend, to help you to seek the Truth.
Please let us know what you find out.

awitness41:
My Bible (NKJV) says this, and so does yours (KJV):
John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

It does not use the word "Law".

Jesus Christ is NOT the Law.
There is not one Verse in Scripture to even imply that Christ IS the Law.

Jesus Christ is the Word, the Way, the Truth, and the Life, true, but is NOT the Law itself.
Jesus Christ kept the Law, and and teaches us all to do the same (as He also told the rich young ruler).
But Jesus is NOT the Law HImself.

Techguy96:
Lol, I have seen this argument many times, it's not logical and reasonable.

Techguy96:
If nothing in this world or on this world created itself than how did God exist?

Techguy96:
Going by your argument, God has a creator and God creator had a creator and so on, your first argument will lead to the infinite regress.

Techguy96:
Your second argument is even more stupid, Steve job use iPhone, I'm pretty sure he communicated with iPhone using the Siri App, meaning he was not out of reach of his creation.

If I make I chair and sat on it, my chair is therefore within my reach.

Ur second argument is dumb and doesn't even make sense, it further proof that God does not exist since we cannot reach him.

Techguy96:
How do u proof something that's outside ur reach exist, why do u even pray to something u cannot reach, obviously ur prayers won't reach

Techguy96:
I have seen numerous argument for God existence and this is one of the dumbest argument.

LOVEGINO:
na wetin dis wan dey yan again?

Carchoice:
I’m even more surprised you believe Adam and Eve story.

kingxsamz:
You go defend tire today bros.

Techguy96:
What fact is that, abeg drop it again, till date I have not seen any reasonable logical argument for the existence of any God.

JeffreyOraz:
The authors of the Bible were human
And the Catholic Church teaches that no man on Earth can truly understand any celestial (heavenly) being. It is what the Church refers to as a MYSTERY. God is a mystery.

JeffreyOraz:
Besides, because you know the future does not mean you must always act like you do.

HedwigesMaduro:
I don't know if you don't understand English, or you're still being deliberately obtuse. The redeeming part is not on her being married as a second wife,
but for her master to resell her as a slave if he doesn't want her again after her being betrothed to him. Jeez!

HedwigesMaduro:
I don't think I should bother about you again. By the way, so if redeeming is only about disobedience to the law, it is sinful to have a first child then, since God asked them in the Old Testament to redeem their first children. At least according to your funny interpretation.

FirstbornWds:
This doesn't seem like any truth. Or just maybe.... I am missing something

jesusjnr2020:
Luke 11:46-52 (KJV)

And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.
Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres.
Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:
That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;
From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.
Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

BassReeves:
Romans 12:19
'Dear friends, never avenge yourselves.
Leave that to God, for he has said that he will repay those who deserve it.
Don’t take the law into your own hands.'

HedwigesMaduro:
Please read Exodus 21:10, and then come back for some more mental gymnastics.

Workch:
Trees wither because of diseases, unavailability of nutrient, pests, pollution, stress from wind, compaction of soil, and age. The universe is not going to rearrange itself to comfort your ignorance.

If your belief is in conflict with science then sorry for you.