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maedan:


lol, @ illie, tell 'em!! A-40 I can understand, he knows his football. But this dudu-gap or space or whateva is here on another agenda. Bgees was very good at defending my pristine honor ---but I'm glad you're finally back. YNWA o jare .

Seen my beautiful Stevie G compilation yet? 
even moi and donkeyanu are agreed on this _{somethin yu're not likely to see again anytime soon}
Unfortunately, despite his unquestioned talent, Stevie G is still an hypocrite who dives a lot and that is the whole truth and nothin but the truth.

I know yu feel obliged to defend the honour of the once great liverpool that existed ages ago but it is quite unfortunate that things have fallen apart and the centre is not holding at Anfield.

Isn't it time to change over and support a conveyor belt of talent and soon to be conveyor belt of trophies like "The Arsenal"? to keep on supporting 'pool is to descend into masochism, someone with a beautiful name as yours _{what does it mean by the way?} deserves being  spared of such agony.

bgees:
how many times has Gerrard had a case of diving?  duduspace, u are not very intelligent. And I really think u  should get out and never come here again. Maedan does not like you. GET OUT!

abeg bgees, don't crap my style now. _{clears throat} you know I'm wooing my dear maedan to come and experience the sumptous dish always on the menu at the emirates. why go for akamu when yu can chop better chickeen plus the liver on top? _{stickin my neck out that maedan is not a veggie or vegan}

Will you tender an apology for impugning on my genius level intelligence before I break all over yu like a storm. For the avoidance of doubt, pls view the youtube compilation below for some examples of Stevie G's many indiscretions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GKXAKQY-0Y&feature=related

@Muki

You'd better prepare to get some leather, handcuffs and koboko as Dayokanu descends into BDSM starting from next season when the Bayer muppets miss out on the UCL.

Well, only an idiot would expect more from a young David Ngog who has to train with Stevie G the master diver every day .

'Pool are reapin the rewards of their training regimen, this is basically the level of mediocrity a once great club descends to when they don't train to play the beautiful game the way Arsenal does but spend their time learning how to dive.

HNIC:
I thought we were screwed when he sold Ade and Kolo and y'all predicted that we will struggle to get into europa cup places

Ade's position became untenable when he scored just one goal more than a younger Bendtner, his goals seem to have dried up again anyway and Kolo had a prolonged blip but seems to be recovering now.

Can football be more beautiful than this?

Ramsey still has a lot of maturing to do but I think it boils down to game time and Gibbs will be a lot more deadly as he grows into this team.

I was about saying Arshavin was a bit selfish not to pick out RVP but he got the goal from the corner. Arshavin hasn't really played well today.

Unbelievable, we've played so much within ourselves yet are 3 goals up.
This team is finally coming of age and is a beauty to behold.
Now to get that first trophy and then on to at least a 5 year complete domination of the premiership.

Song is such a calming influence in midfield.

There goes Cesc and my fantasy points go up.

Eduardo is unbeleivable, look at the composure. 2-0

GoaL Eduardo and he is not even celebrating. or is it Zubar?

Diaby goes off injured, hope its not serious but Ramsey can now play a bit more advanced.

This game is looking like AZ Alkmaar away? is this some sort of away strategy?

Why these unnecessary fouls? Gallas, Diaby and now Sagna  

Don't fear HNIC, the match is just starting to open up.

Ramsey is putting himself about early on, wants to make a statement

It is time to rumble.
Arsene isn't underestimating Wolves, he has said Ramsey is really pushing for a first team place.

Culled from Untold Arsenal:

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  November 4th, 2009 at 7:29 pm

Walter good man, sorry – this reply got longer than I intended. The D&G crew just make my blood boil, hence…

I think that for a lot of the moaners, they forget that even the very best of Arsenal’s (or any other team come to that) past teams had players who frustrated. I can remember screaming to the heavens about Wiltord, Platt and Gilberto (to name but a few) and yet we won the league with these very same players.

I could bang on about the line up who won the Cup Winners Cup but I won’t – lets stay more modern then startlingly weak line up of messrs Hillier, Selley and McGoldrick. After all that was a cup competition in the proper sense and lesser line ups can always cause surprises.

I am not saying Wiltord, Platt and Gilberto were terrible players – far from it – but they were often singled out for criticism and vitriol. I suspect, if they played today, the noises of dissent against these players would be FAR greater and this is down to the rise of BLOGPOWER. The chattering inanity of a thousand simpletons, the voice of the pub bore and the 13 year old expert who believe they know more about management than Arsene, Shankly, Clough and Ferguson combined.

They still wrote off Song in spite of the fact he has had a great season. They can;t see this largely because when many of us could see his potential (most notably that notoriously rubbish manager Wenger) they had already donned the caps, wigs and hoods of judge, jury and executioner and declared him useless, rubbish and shit.

The horse they got on is too high to climb down from so the most we get is a begrudging ‘he had an okay game but he’s hardly Viera/Petit or as good as etc etc.

And so it goes on. Here is the rub D&G mentallers – this squad, this team are good enough to win the league and somewhere dep down you know it. But you can’t admit it because then you’d have to admit you were wrong.

If they don’t win the league, I am confident it will not be by much (as it seems the press are now wising up to) and IF that happens it will largely be YOUR fault for tryin to split this cub asunder.

The Diabys, Arshavins, Songs, Bendtners ARE good enough for this club because football isn’t solely about megastars (thank mess!) its about teamwork, confidence and belief.

What will happen to you if we win the league – I am betting you will move on to complain about the years we lost building this young winning side on the cheap and moaning about the price of everything and shareholders lining their pockets at your expense.

You want the moon on a stick and it is you who are not good enough, for the club, for the real fans, for the players, the manager (oh yes especially for the manager who you so unfairly and foully malign)but mostly for the sole of my shoe.

Diaby, go get me a hatrick, I still fucking love ya![/quote]I hope this keeps the moaners shut and they finally get behind the players.

Diaby shuts rasputinn up   What a relief to see Rosicky back

rasputinn:
I've shouted myself hoarse about Diaby and his many sins

Wetin Diaby do again? abeg leave the guy alone.  

Jaylone:
And he is improving every day,

That is the amazing thing, I think Cesc stalled a bit in his physical development. He is also getting better at timing late runs into the opponent's box like Lampard and Ljungberg. and there he goes again. 3-0

Diaby is really learning to play his role well, his decision making is a lot better.

@Chrisbenogor

Chrisbenogor:
Furthermore I opened a thread where I specifically asked him if it was important for us to know if God exists, he says no then I ask why waste pages here proving his existence?

I will let you guys carry on with your discussion but all I see is dogma coated with grammar.

Just outta interest, have you become an apathetic agnostic too? always took you for a full blown atheist.

Even if I don't beleive a lot of what you say, I still must salute your powers of perception and deduction.

@Rasputinn

Fabianski is our best shot stopper, he used to be suspect on crosses but he seems to have improved on that recently. I felt Fabianski could have done more about the Insua shot while watching the match live but on a second look that shot could well have beaten any keeper. I would like Fabianski to have his chance if Almunia messes up again. Apart from probably Szcezeny, he has the best reflexes of all our other keepers. Cast your mind back to that amazing double save against Wigan in the Carling cup last season.

Good game, a pity I'm at work. Just noticed we've drawn Shitty in the Carling cup.

Chrisbenogor:
Never thought the day would come, but alas david and I are on the same frequency, hmmmm.

Chrisbenogor, I think this is a bit different because Deepsight does sound sincere so far in his discussions unlike davidylan who is basically a christian fanatic and I think we can get some where on this, yes we can get bored and drift away but I think we will someday come back and take a look at the various posts and therein reexamine and refine our individual understanding of our existence.

I think the whole point of discussions such as this is to test and reexamine your own beliefs and understanding, while hearing other people's ideas, something that is wholly beyond Davidylan because his belief is cast in stone and basically cannot change. He is not coming here to test his beliefs but to assert it and therein lies his problem.

Deep Sight:
What part of this does not make sense? Is it not true that abstractions exist? Is it not true that there is a continuous and infinite stream of possible permutations within mathematics (itself an abstract science)? Is it not true that mathematics is governed by logic? Or is it governed by randomness? If these are true, could a precise abstract science such as this have imprecision or randomness as its basis? You really need to examine again what you are saying here.

2. Such Co-existence and multiplication results in the continuous and infinite permutations possible within mathematics

3. Mathematics infers reason, logic and a rational basis for existence

4. A Rational Basis for existence can only be based on a rationality of the core of existence (the singularity) and thus -

My dispute here is to do with the relationships between the various steps of your proof, for example between 2 and 3 I fail to see the relationship between infinite permutations and the various inferences you make from mathematics as continuous and infinite permutations exist in almost any subject area you can think of and not all of them infer reason, logic and rationality.

Besides, you might want to change the statement in 3 to this (Mathematics infers reason, logic and a rational basis "from" existence) as Mathematics itself is derived from existence and can not be used to prove anything conclusively about existence being wholly contained within existence itself and working within the limitations of existence.

And I insist that statement 4 is a grandiose assertion due to the use of the word "only" because the onus lies on you to eliminate every other possibility.

And yes, mathematics is in some instances governed by randomness, in fact once you go beyond the macro level and delve into quantum mechanics, you always have to deal with the uncertainty principle.

Deep Sight:
Finally you attacked my assertion that the very existence of mathematics presupposes a universal mind.

Let me ask you – what do you understand by the abstract nature of numbers. Hell, what do you understand by the word “abstract” in the first place? Do you not see the indestructible link between the very fact of the existence of an abstraction, and the fact of a mind thereon Dudu – let me put it simply – abstractions in themselves are a compound mind, and the word “abstraction” cannot exist outside of a mind. Thus the whole gamut of existence, is per-force a mind, within which we exist. But I am getting ahead of myself here. Let me not muddy the waters yet by going too far. But I ask that you reflect closely on this. Particularly on abstractions.

Perhaps the waters are already being muddied, cos this doesn't make much sense to me. Isn't abstraction the way we humans record information and conceptualize? are you saying that the things that we know to exist don't exist outside of our abstract conceptualization of them? if this were true, why do we atimes see the same thing as different things? or why do illusions exist?

The existence of mathematics shows nothing else beyond the fact that most human beings to different extents are able to comprehend abstraction any other conjecture beyond this is an assumption that you have to prove.

Who really killed Lawrence Anini?

Is Viaro a cardsharp of some sort? even though I believe Deepsight is jumping to a lot of conclusions here but I must commend Viaro's considerable mathematical understanding and ability. I will take time to find some holes in these hasty assumptions (and I'm sure there must be).

Deep Sight:
To expatiate, somebody (Duduspace, I believe) once pointed out to me that within an eternity of endless time, anything that can happen will happen. He used that as justification for thinking that the world could arise by chance or spontaneously, within an eternity of endless time. That was a fair point, but what he missed was this: within such an eternity, zero is also something that could happen, and the minute it happens, all existence is dead forever, because zero is absolute nothingness.

Now yu mention the name of a mere mortal, and I can't help but answer your call and point out that I didn't miss anything. I agree that within such an eternity as I envisaged, zero is a possibility but have yu considered that it might be a possibility yet to happen? only problem is that if it actually exists and happens, it wouldn't matter because there will be no one to witness its existence.

Remember also that in the prior discussion which you referred to, you did indicate that my assertions were based on the premise that something already existed, even you with your mathematical rigmarolling have now returned to my starting point by pointing our that "Nothingness could not exist" (something I won't dispute because I'm yet to see it and accepted only as a theoretical construct) Now, if we go with your logic that Nothingness cannot exist, then the next logical step is to assume the position that the Universe/matter has always existed  and has only been transitory as we continue to evidence in the various cycles we see through life itself (also tying in nicely with one of your earlier conclusions as to why the prime mover must have attributes of intelligence because we see a semblance of order in the world around us)

You might be hasty to assume that this cannot be possible because of "The big bang theory" implying the beginning of the universe but just consider for a second that all of what we see at present (as the presently expanding universe) must have been implicitly contained within the singularity subsequently transiting into the Universe we know of in the present.

Deep Sight:
We move speedily along to the next proof.

Having already established an infinite expansion of abstract quantities from a singularity (the oneness of infinity) we can infer that:

 1. As earlier explained, abstract quantities by co-existence multiply into infinity

 2. Such Co-existence and multiplication results in the continuous and infinite permutations possible within mathematics

 3. Mathematics infers reason, logic and a rational basis for existence

 4. A Rational Basis for existence can only be based on a rationality of the core of existence (the singularity) and thus -

 5. The singularity is rational, reasonable and logical in its nature (mathematical)

 6. The deduced rationality is the quality of mind;

7. The abstract mind inferred thereby is the complete image: an unembodied universal mind which we call God.

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Sorry, but this is absolute hocus pocus, how exactly do you go from 2 to 3 and what is the relationship? is 3 the only thing that mathematics infers or vice versa? how exactly did you come about your grandiose assertion in 4? have you truly eliminated all other possibilities? and how exactly did yu get to 6?
This proof is totally dubious, I'm sure Viaro wouldn't support you on this. It is a good working theory though and you can continue to fine tune it in trying to convince yourself of the existence of god.

@deepsight

I have so much respect for your articulate presentation of facts and your colourful writing but why are you suddenly sounding like Kuns and his nuwubian theories? what is all this gibberish yu have up there? there are just too many hasty conclusions up there that I don't know where to start from?